MAITREYA, Conversation With
Sal-OM everyone. Welcome
from all over the world to our room, to our Conversation Room.
I hope we will have a very good Conversation,
and we will discuss the latest Revelation of God that has come to
humanity and has unified all religions of the world together.
Even scientists are now confirming what we have been teaching for
the last twenty-five years, and they have come to the conclusion of
the "String Theory" that everything, every atom, has a string in it
that is millions and billions smaller than an atom.
Then according to the vibration of this string, the atom
manifests in different levels on earth, or in the universe, and
creation is created with these “strings” and vibrations.
Now if we can go ahead and call that "String" Consciousness or God,
then scientists are pretty close to exactly what we have been
teaching, that the whole universe is vibration.
Vibration in different levels manifests itself in different
forms of creation, and therefore has been revealing the truth that
scientists are now coming very close to.
They say you cannot see it with any microscope or with any
instrument in this level of human technological advancement, or
maybe never because it is so small.
It is millions and billions smaller than an atom.
That is exactly what we are saying again, that God is an experience;
He is not an explanation.
The way to experience God is meditation, going deep inside,
and realizing that you and God are One.
There is no separation between you and the Spirit, God.
Therefore, with that experience, you realize what scientists
cannot see in their instruments.
That is another confirmation that science, religion, and the Golden
Age, which is coming, is coming together very fast.
Humanity is confirming more and more that this Revelation,
indeed, will cover every aspect of the human, from the very lowest
to the highest.
Science can eventually realize that, “Yes, there is a Spirit; there
is the unified theory of Consciousness and the creative forces.”
They call the creative forces the strong force, the weak
force, and the electromagnetic, and of course, no gravity, which so
far to this point they could not explain why gravity and the quantum
theory could not exist together.
With this new theory they say they can explain it.
But we had explained it a long time ago.
If God is behind everything then He has created the smallest
thing to the greatest thing, and basically there are three creative
forces and Consciousness.
They are coming to this point of realizing that they cannot
see the Consciousness.
Consciousness is even subtler than ether, that even the ether,
scientists have not been able to verify and see it in this creation.
Therefore, our teaching and science are coming closer and closer
together. Even science
is unified with religion.
Of course our teaching also unifies all religions of the
world, and it explains how God has been sending all these religions
to this point. Now He
reveals what He had sealed from the previous Prophets and from the
visions that He gave to those Prophets and told them, "Seal them, do
not reveal them.” It is
not going to be revealed until the end time.
At the end time the whole Plan of God will be revealed to humanity.
After the Seven Seals are opened, after the Book sealed with
the Seven Seals is opened, then the Plan of God will be revealed to
Therefore, no one before this Revelation, opening of the Seven
Seals, and the Book sealed with the Seven Seals, knew the Plan of
God. They all
speculated, they all thought they knew, but God clearly all through
His Revelations revealed this:
That no one knows the truth until this Revelation comes, and
now we know the whole truth.
Actually if you know our teaching in the deepest level and see the
Vision, it explains so many things.
We just talked about science.
But it explains economy, it explains sociology, it explains
human relationships, it explains community, it explains family, it
explains how the family and pure relationships between couples
create pure communities, and the pure communities manifest Great
Beings who can lead humanity or their community in a greater degree.
From these Great Beings, the whole hierarchy of the Kingdom will
emerge. Eventually the
will come to earth
The whole package, the whole vision, the whole truth has been given
to humanity now. We knew
all along that also science will eventually come to these
conclusions and will be based on Spirit.
The science based on Spirit does not create pollution, does not
create ecological disturbances as the conventional science is doing
now, because we will use the science based on the nature, based on
what we can use and reuse and make it in a very flowing way in the
nature instead of using it and creating destructive by-products.
We can see again in this level, the
has given the answers to everyone and scientists should realize that
Spirit behind their scientific discoveries has to be realized and
recognized, and how to use these vibrations that they call “string
vibrations” in a way that will not create the by-products that we
They also have to realize that God really exists because God said
that He is going to do these things, He is going to give this
Vision, He is going to send these Prophets, He is going to send
these Revelations and religions, and each of them has a specific
message for humanity. If
there is a Being who said He is going to do that and He has done it,
therefore God exists. No
one can deny that God truly is in charge and has been doing all
His Will is to create the
Heaven On Earth,
to bring the Communities of Light, to understand the Eternal Divine Path and bring His Kingdom on earth, and to bring
the peace and unity that humanity has been longing to happen.
He has also revealed His Name to be given to those who will be
initiated to the highest level in the
you are always going to have God with you.
He is never going to leave you.
It is always there, and those who have received this know it
in their hearts that it is the truth.
As you go on and create the Communities of Light, you will
see all the problems that we have now will little by little be
destructive forces, these wars and rumors of wars, will go away, and
the peace and tranquility will come to earth.
That is The Way. There is no other way.
The politicians are not going to be able to do it.
The scientists are not going to be able to do it.
But God who has brought humanity to this point, can.
We each are a messenger of God.
This Message has been given to us to disseminate, to spread,
to give to everyone, to discuss it with them, to make them
understand that their religion is a part of a greater truth.
We are not here to say, “No, your religion is no good.
Our religion is the only good one.”
But we say, “Your religion is a part of ours.
God has sent your religion as a part of a greater truth.”
Therefore we are not here to destroy your religion, but we reveal to
you a greater truth which includes your religion as well.
You have to see the Vision of God, not your little religion
or dogmas. You have to
expand yourself and if you really believe in your Scriptures, if you
believe in your Prophets, your Prophet clearly said that the Vision
of the end time would be sealed, would not be revealed until then.
So anyone who comes and says, “Yes, I know what is going to happen,”
all those preachers who have all those ideas that they bring to
humanity, all the mullahs and rabbis, and all the brahmins, etc.,
none of them know the truth of it until the Revelation of the
Seventh Seal. After the
Seven Seals are opened, then everyone can know.
And now you know.
you read THOTH, when you go to our website, when you
understand our teaching and you see the Vision, you have seen the
Plan. You have seen how
God will eventually manifest His Kingdom on earth.
You become a messenger.
You become a channel for God to reach everyone.
Reach your friends.
Reach your family.
If they did not listen, reach other people.
If they did not listen, reach
new people. Do not
become upset if some people did not listen to you.
It is just like right now, you can see some people come to our room
and they leave right away because they are not ready for this
Message. But you have
heard it. You have seen
it. You have seen the
Vision. Now you are
here, and you come and you stay, because you know it is the greatest
Revelation that has come to humanity for the last 12,000 years.
When you come and stay, when you hear this, read
go to our website, and see the Vision, then you become a channel, a
messenger of this Message to reach to find the Elects in your area,
in your country, in your continent.
Wherever you are then you become the second
Eventually we will have one hundred and forty-four thousand
that have seen the Vision, have understood the Plan of God, and they
become the preachers and the teachers of mankind.
The more we have these people, the more there is greater
outreach in the Hand of God.
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Yes, this is Me.
Himself, Trumpet. I hope
you have gone to our website and you have seen the Vision and the
teaching. If you have
any question about the teaching, you can raise your hand.
I have seen the site.
Great, OK Trumpet.
If you have seen the site and if you have a question, go
ahead. That is the first
step for everyone, to go to the website to study our teachings.
When you go to the website, a lot of people just stay in the
first page or the second page, and they decide, “Well, that does not
teach what I am looking for.”
But that website has hundreds of pages and probably thousands of
pages, because we have the whole Holiest Of The Holies
in that website that you can read or download.
There is no charge to do that, and you can read them on the
screen, or print them to read later, etc.
That is the first step to go there and see the Vision.
Go ahead, Open Eye.
Yes, good morning,
Just a question, when the Seventh Seal opens, the word
“mystery” is a mystery to all, because the definition of mystery
throughout the whole Bible is confusing.
Could you explain that better?
Yes, mystery means something that is covered.
It is not revealed.
You do not know about it.
You cannot know about it until it is revealed to you, or you
solve it. So that is
exactly what the word means in the Bible, like everywhere
It means no one knows until the Seventh Angel comes, until the
opening of the Seven Seals.
It is a mystery. It is unknown.
That is exactly what happened.
To this point every religion took their religion as the best
religion, or the last religion, or the only way, or the chosen one,
or the last Revelation in a string of Revelations.
But none of them really knew because God said no one will
know until the Seventh Seal is opened.
So the Seventh Seal now is opened.
That is why now we know the mystery of God.
It is no longer a mystery.
It is in THOTH.
It is written in the Book, which is sealed with the Seven
Now when we look at it, it is all there.
It explains how all religions of the world are parts of this
truth, and when you put them together, it becomes a Path, which is
called the Eternal Divine Path.
That is the faster way to go to God.
That is the fastest way to purify yourself.
That is the fastest way to bring the
Heaven On Earth,
and it makes sense. It
is perfect. It answers
all the questions you have.
It solves all the problems that humanity is longing to solve.
It is amazing that so many times we discuss so many problems
and always the Eternal Divine Path answers the questions and
solves the problems.
So that is why God is Perfect and His Path also is Perfect.
His Way is perfect and His Way is revealed now to humanity.
It says that the Eternal Divine Path is the way to the
salvation of man physically, mentally, spiritually, individually,
and collectively. If we
understand this teaching, if we understand the Eternal Divine
Path, not only we no longer are opposed to any religion, we no
longer say, “Oh, we are better than other religions,” but we say,
“We are a part of the whole.”
Go ahead, Open Eye.
I believe that also.
is a question on what I was speaking about and sharing, on the
opposite of good is bad. Where is the ultimate like you?
There has to be an opposite ultimate.
Could you explain a bit about that?
There is always good and evil.
Good is God. God
is good, and evil is opposite of what is not God.
Since God is everything, there is no such thing as the
opposite of God.
The only thing that is opposite of God is ego, and ego is the
illusion of separation from God.
Therefore ego is when the human is in illusion that it is
separate from God and acts not according to the Laws of the universe
but according to the egoistical, self-centered, selfish desires of
If we look at the problems on earth, we can see that the whole
reason for destruction, wars, and what we see happening on earth, is
ego. “I have a bigger
gun and a better gun. I
can beat you up. My ego
is bigger. If you do not
listen to my ego and my way of life, then you are no good.”
It is all an “ego trip” and related to human ego.
If we can understand that ego is that illusion of separation, which
some religions call Maya, then we can understand that illusion is so
strong, so powerful, that they actually feel that is the truth; that
is life. They do not see
God. They do not have
any feeling for God, and they cannot realize God at all because they
are in that illusion.
Therefore evil is not a being, is not something with big horns and a
fork that is deceiving you, but that is probably a good symbolic way
to put it. In reality it
is your illusion of separation from God.
So in truth, ego or Maya does not exist but it is an illusion that
is so powerful that makes people do ungodly things and they do not
know that God exists.
They do not believe God exists.
Ninety-nine percent of even religious people just do a couple
of rituals, go to the church, or mosque, or synagogue, but then they
come out and that is it. A couple of hours a week they go and the preacher tells them what
God is, what they should do, and how they have to believe, and they
do. The rest of the week
they just go back to their delusion of self-centeredness and
selfishness, and they do things that are not Godly.
So we can see the more we realize that we are in delusion, the more
we know that we are separated from God, and the more we realize that
we do not exist, we become closer to God.
Therefore we can see evil is just that delusion of separation
Go ahead Mr. Disc.
This is me again.
Thanks for listening to me once again.
Very interesting answer and I believe that what you say is
Could you apply it for me to the story of Job in the Old Testament?
This is one side I was trying to figure out.
Was he indeed deluding himself, and if so, how was he being
The concept of evil is a very powerful concept in the
Scriptures. That has
been created because the humans have a hard time to understand the
concept of ego and illusion of separation from God.
What we just explained is over the heads of maybe 95% of the humans,
unless you are educated, you have studied psychology, and you know
about delusion and in a deeper level and if you are a deep person,
you might understand.
The easiest way to create a concept of evil that opposes God is,
there was a war in the beginning between God and evil, and
eventually God threw evil out of the Garden and evil became a menace
for humanity. It is
always trying to tempt them and take them away from their correct
In the case of Job, he was rich and he was powerful.
He had everything he needed, and he was put to a test.
“How much do you love God?
How much are you really with God?
Are you with God because you have a lot of riches and money,
and you have gained the world?”
As we know, when you gain the world you lose your Soul.
That is opposite of losing the world and gaining the Kingdom
But can you gain the world and not lose your Soul?
That is why he was put to a test.
He lost all his possessions, his family, his health, and he
became completely destitute.
Still he did not give up on God and said, “No, it does not
matter what you do to me, I know God exists.”
He loved God with all his heart, mind, and being.
At the end God provided everything he had before, even more to him
because he proved himself that the money, possessions, and the world
would not sway him from loving God, or being one-pointed to return
home. That is what the
However, because the people in the Scriptures believe in the devil,
it is easier for them to relate to a being that is as powerful as
God. That is exactly
what Maya is. Maya is as
powerful as God. Therefore it creates the separation and delusion of being separated
Job came out from the test with flying colors.
He did not change his mind about God, His Grace, etc.
Therefore that shows the perseverance of the humans toward
God, how one-pointed you have to be in order to go to God and
eventually win the battle between the lower nature and higher self.
That is another thing you can look at, the struggle between the
lower nature which wants to go to the world and fall into Maya, and
the higher nature which wants to go to God, become Godly, and follow
God. So you can again
see that Job’s struggle is between the lower nature and the higher
nature of man.
hope that makes sense. If it does not, this is a Conversation Room and you can always come
back and tell me why it does not make sense or maybe elaborate more
on your question, and we can go ahead and answer it.
Go ahead Mr. Disc.
That was a very good answer.
Thank you. One
more question, this one is in regards to the rosary.
I believe we should only worship God and we should revere His
Prophets. In the rosary,
we have prayers to hail Mary, the Virgin Mary.
Two questions: Is
it right to be praying to her because I know they kind of mention
that she is the mediator for us to God.
Is that necessary?
The second thing, in the Old Testament, when we talk about a virgin
it can either be deciphered as a “young girl,” or a “virgin,” and
this, because I think she was a very young girl.
Were there other examples in other religions of virgins
giving birth to great people?
OK, your first question is, Is that OK to worship anything
else besides God? No, it
is not. The only thing
you should worship is God, which is Formless, Invisible, Nameless,
and Eternal. With that,
you will go to the Source, to the highest.
Anything that has shape, has taste, has touch, has sound, or has any
attribute of our senses is not the Essence, is not God in the
Highest. As we just have
been discussing, even scientists have reached a point that they look
at the particles in the atom that are millions and billions times
smaller than the atom itself.
Therefore the Essence or Ultimate is something they cannot
see. If that vibration
creates the whole creation which they call string theory, even
scientists are admitting it is not seeable, it cannot be verified in
the laboratories and in the places that they do scientific
experiments. So we can
see even they have come to that conclusion that God is not really
explainable in a scientific way.
Therefore anything that takes us from that highest level is not the
Essence. Some people
still worship statues in some parts of the world.
That is not the highest.
They worship a name, like Allah or
etc. The Name of God is
within you. It is not
utterable in the external world.
If you give Him a Name, a shape, or anything that is not the
highest level and is the corrupt way of worshipping God, it is not
going to take you to the highest.
It is going to attach you to the preachers, to the mullahs,
or to the people who teach you what God said, according to what they
Therefore to go to the highest is not to worship anything but the
highest, which is Formless, Invisible, Nameless, and Eternal.
Can you repeat your second question about Mary?
I guess you were saying if it
is possible or not. Go
ahead and ask again.
I just wanted to know because in the Old Testament they were
talking about a virgin giving birth, and there are two ways of
interpreting it. One,
she is either a very young girl, or two, she is in fact a virgin, or
I guess another way of interpreting it, is that she is pure in mind
and spirit. That is my
second question. I guess
you will answer it a little later.
Becoming pregnant while you are a virgin, it was not the only
time it has happened in history.
There have been many incidents or stories that there have
been virgins who became pregnant.
Of course Mary’s pregnancy you can say was a miracle.
The first time in the history of humanity that they were talking
about a virgin who would have the birth of a savior, was in the
Mithra religion. It was
a branch of the Zoroastrian religion, which became very prominent in
the time just before the coming of Christ and spread all through the
cultures, and even went all the way to
Palestine, it had
many followers, and in the Middle East,
and everywhere. So you
can say that in one way that story had a great effect or influence
on those religions, and the whole theory of the coming of Christ,
the Virgin Mary, etc.
We just had a Feast of Tabernacles, and there was a lecture that I
gave about the First Seal.
It is still going on in the other room, the Discourses Room.
Probably you can go and listen to it about how the idea of
the Father, Son and Holy Ghost has evolved from Nimrod, and how
Nimrod called himself God.
His wife later on said that miraculously she has become
pregnant and the child in her womb was Nimrod himself.
So Nimrod was God, Semiramis
was the Holy Mother, and her son was the son of god.
So that is the low level explanation of the Father, Son, and
The Holy Ghost.
But in our teaching, in the
we explain how Father is God (the Formless, Invisible, Nameless, and
Eternal) and Mother is the creative force, or The Holy Mother, and
son is the Messiah, because God as the Formless, Invisible,
Nameless, and Eternal, and the Mother as the Creative Force, cannot
manifest themselves. They need a body to manifest in the manifested world as the Messiah.
We just said even scientists cannot see them in the laboratories.
The only way He can manifest Himself is through the Son,
through the Messiah, through the Prophet, who comes to humanity with
clear fulfillment of the prophecies.
God makes it very clear who that one person is that can bring
His Spirit to humanity. When such a person comes, He becomes the Mouthpiece of God and the
Spirit of God comes to humanity and brings the new Revelation to
That includes all the Prophets in the past.
It includes Christ.
It includes Muhammad.
It includes Bab. It includes Moses, Abraham, Adam, and all the other Prophets.
They all came with a specific message or with the fulfillment
of the prophecies, and then that becomes the Son of God.
Many of the people who join us will, in a thousand years, become
sons of God. As the Bible said, You will become My son after you overcome. (Rev.
So we have to understand where they went wrong to see the truth of
the meaning of the Father, Son, and The Holy Ghost.
If we can see that, then we can clearly overcome following
the teaching that is man-made.
The Father is not a human.
The Mother is not a woman.
The Son is the manifestation of the Mother and the Father.
That is why they call Christ, “Full of knowledge and Grace.”
Knowledge was the Father, and Grace was the Mother.
Go ahead, Openeye.
Yes, I just want to ask a question about the final destiny.
So many people are talking about it.
What I am talking about is the royal family in the history of
the British people being crowned by the
Son. That is in Genesis basically, 28:18.
Could you talk about that, please?
Openeye, can you explain a little more?
Where in Genesis does it say that the Son will crown
the kings of
Can you explain a little more to us?
In the past, over the years I have read that it speaks about
the coming of Christ, especially for the British people or the
28:18 emphasizes this. They always say for the Irish, the islands, we may think that
someone will be crowned. Is there any connection to that?
His final destiny is in Jeremiah; that is where it comes
You have to read the Scripture if you want us to answer.
But in general I do not think that is related to
and the Kings of England.
Of course there is a great movement and there is an attempt
to connect the royal family in
to King David. They
might have a connection. It is not something that we either accept or deny.
There are many people who are connected to King David and a lot of
people are claiming to be the king or the Messiah, but the only way
you can know the True One is the one who has fulfilled the
Of course my genealogy also goes to King David and Adam.
Also there are prophecies that it is impossible for the
people in Europe to fulfill, as the expectation of the Christians is
that, or the people in
is that, he will come from the East, and the expectation of the
Tibetan and Indian people is that He will come from the West.
Europe is not East of
Therefore you can see that claim can only go to the person who was
born East of Jerusalem and West of Tibet, and many other things that
you can easily find in our website about the prophecies and how they
did not write those prophecies.
I did not know about those prophecies.
I just received the Message and it made sense.
Therefore I gave it to humanity.
Other people came, they found these prophecies, and they put
them in our website.
There has never been a Prophet or Messenger who has fulfilled as
many prophecies as was fulfilled through this
Therefore God has made it very clear who is the Mouthpiece of
God and the Opener of the Seven Seals.
Also, did they open the Seven Seals?
Did they open the Book sealed with the Seven Seals?
So you can see that the only person who can be regarded as the Lion
of the Tribe of Judah is the one that God has chosen.
Therefore the royal family in
England should see this clearly also
and relent their power and kingdom to God and His Messenger, and
become a part of God’s Revelation.
Then they also will become a part of the truth.
Those verses that you referred to probably are talking about the
Lion of the Tribe of Judah.
We have to understand and find who the Lion of the Tribe of
Judah is. Really is
there anyone who can claim they are, or are connected to King David,
or is it more than that?
It is the One, it is the only One, who can open the Book sealed with
the Seven Seals. If we
find that One, everyone else, even the kings and queens should
recognize and realize that and understand those verses are about
that Revealer and He is chosen by God.
hope that answered your question on that.
If you have any other question, go ahead and raise your hand.
Go ahead Openeye.
Yes, as I am in
Australia, I am happy to spread the
Word, which I am already doing.
I am having a lot of resistance, so far no response.
There are a few people interested to hear but not many people
coming as yet. We are
hoping for more.
One of the things, Openeye, you will realize that every new
Revelation, especially this one, has come in a time that most of the
people have their own religion, they are not understanding, and they
believe their religion is the best religion.
They believe in their dogmas.
Also Maya or the attraction of the world is the strongest at
this time as has been revealed in the Scriptures that at the end
time the Maya or the illusion of separation from God is even
stronger than before.
We have many more toys or attractions to take us away from God.
We have television.
We have games. We
have Cube, or Nintendo, or television, and many things, many
attractions with a lot of wonderful things you can watch, or go
places, or be together in a greater degree in the Internet and do
things, which are not according to God.
So we can see the attraction toward the world is even more powerful.
Their religions are binding humans more and more.
They do not want to be different.
That is one of the things they are teaching, and Maya is
making people more and more not to “rock the boat” or be different.
They are afraid to be different.
are afraid to say the truth.
They are afraid to be Godly, because not being Godly is more
it is very hard to come and listen to this Revelation, and say,
“Yes, that makes sense. I want to change my religion.
I want to be different than my neighbor.
I want to bring a new understanding of God to man.”
Therefore there is a great resistance to this Revelation, and
of course it has been prophesied.
That is why those who hear this Revelation, understand it, come and
join, they are pretty great people.
They have been meditating and progressing for many lifetimes
in the last 12,000 years, and their number is very few, “Many will
be called; few will be chosen.”
Of course the choosing has already been done; for the last 12,000
years was the process of choosing.
Now those who can hear this Vision clearly and are willing to
be different, are willing to be Godly and spread the Word of God,
sometimes they feel lonely and alone, and it is hard to attract
people to come to you. But know that God is with you.
This is the correct Revelation.
It is based on God’s Scriptures and Word.
It reveals the truth that has been sealed to the Great
Prophets in the past. Even Daniel could not reveal what was going to happen.
But it is going to happen because it is the Word of God.
He said He is going to do many things, and He has done them.
Therefore it is going to happen.
There is no doubt about that.
That is our salvation.
have been at it for the last twenty-three, twenty-four years, and
giving these Satsangs and teachings almost every week or every
month. We have not
thousands, we have not millions, we have a handful of dedicated,
good people who have heard it and joined us.
Therefore do not lose heart.
Do not feel that you are alone.
With this PalTalk, you have a family, you have a community here.
You can come and join them anytime.
We are here three times a day.
People here can encourage you, give you the Spirit, and pull
you up from feeling alone and lonely in the world.
But this is how it is.
We are a minority, a small group at this time.
The world is very powerful, and there is a lot of Maya and
many separative ideas that exist.
So we have to teach, we have to educate, and we have to reach
out. We have to do our
best possible to reach as many people as we can but at the same time
not to be attached to the result.
Remember, one of our teachings, the Fourth Seal, is to let God come
through, or surrender the result to God.
The result is not ours.
Ours is to try. Ours is to reach out.
Ours is to go and do our best.
After we do our best, the result belongs to God.
There is only one God; He is Formless, Invisible, Nameless, and
Eternal. We are free
from any attachment to the result.
We can do our best and not be attached to the result, and be
free in what we do. That
makes us not become depressed or unhappy as to why people are not
But if we can reach the critical point in this
if we can make enough people to see the Vision, if we can find
144,000 people who see this Vision clearly and are the chosen
people, and will come and join us, and we create the facilitating
body…, and that is another part of the
to create the facilitating body, the Round Table of the twelve
Elders, and create a system that reaches all through the earth and
spreads this Vision to humanity.
When we reach that critical point, humanity will see the only
way is God’s Way.
They are right now drowned in Maya, in ungodliness.
Ungodliness actually is more acceptable.
If you say you love God, in many cultures, they look at you
very strangely. We have
a brother here from
France and he
was telling me, it is so hard for him to talk about God.
That is what the state of humanity is.
But with the tribulation, with the things that are coming,
eventually humans will realize that the only way is God’s Way.
Their religions are limited.
Their religions are not the last Revelation.
Their religions are a part of a greater truth.
The Chosen Ones are not a nation but the people who follow the
Eternal Divine Path, create the Communities of Light, and
the Kingdom is based on the Communities of Light.
Therefore more and more people will see this Vision clearly,
but it is up to us to spread it.
OK, there is a question from Carizma.
I know we all come from somewhere, but someone tell me where did God
OK, that is a question like asking, where is infinity, where
Where does God come
from? All these
questions…. as we said, God is not explainable.
God is experienced.
That is why you have to meditate, Carizma.
You have to continue knowing thyself, and eventually one day
you will realize that you do not exist; the only thing that exists
is God. Then in that
state you will realize what eternity, infinity, and God is, and you
will have no question left.
You see, that is the
question that has been asked for centuries and thousands of years.
As Mr Disc says:
The question of all questions.
No answer is available.
It means that God cannot be explained.
Some people say, if you make all the trees of the world in
the universe to pens, and the whole universe as the paper, and you
start writing about your questions, at the end all the oceans and
water are ink, if you wrote on the universe, as the paper, and all
the pens are broken and all the oceans are dried out, you haven’t
even started explaining God because you cannot explain God.
But in your meditation, when you experience God, when you had that
connection, you have no doubt. For
instance I had a dream one night when I was in
In that dream, it was so clear, God is Everything.
He knows even the destiny of the smallest fish in the ocean.
He knows everything at the same time.
It is absolutely “mind-boggling” in that moment of connection
to the Universal Mind and God.
It is beyond human experience.
It is just like asking the fish to talk about quantum physics.
A fish cannot even understand the basic mathematics in order
to come to become a quantum physics theoretician.
Therefore we are asking something to be explained to a being
that does not have the ability to recognize or realize that state.
That is why we encourage everyone to meditate, encourage everyone to
concentrate, encourage everyone to “know thyself.”
It has been revealed that you yourself, atman, and God are
one. So if you recognize
and realize your Essence, you see it is really God already there.
You did not know it existed all this time.
So we can see that the only way to God is self-realization,
surrendering and submission,
and experience. When you
have an experience with God, you know God exists.
Intellectually in our teachings, you can understand God
exists because God said He is going to do all these things, and He
did them. Therefore He
exists, because a being that does not exist cannot say, “I am going
to do all those things,” and He does them.
There are many things that God said He was going to do that in our
Scripture, which is called THOTH, The Holiest Of
The Holies, clearly God said He was going to do them, and He
did them. Therefore, God
That is the intellectual understanding.
But if you really want to know God, you have to experience
Go ahead, Openeye.
Yes, I am amazed with that explanation.
How does one identify
future Prophets after the Seventh Truth, according to the
The Seventh Seal or the Scripture is the last Revelation from
God. It reveals
everything. After that,
there is no Major Manifestation for 1,000 years.
After 1,000 years is the time that God will reveal how and
who are the sons of God. The sons of God will know what the next step is after 1,000 years.
During these 1,000
years there is not going to be any Major Manifestation to come.
There will not be any because, to come to do what?
It has already been revealed.
The Seventh Seal is opened.
In the Scriptures there is no prediction of the coming of any
Great Manifestation or Prophet anywhere after the Seven Seals.
But of course there
are going to be teachers.
There are going to be Messengers.
There are going to be people who might come and emphasize
different parts of our teachings to humanity.
Their coming might also be prophesied.
However, if they come
and say something that is not according to our teachings and not
according to our Revelation, they are not a Messenger of God.
Most probably we can see Great Teachers will come and will
further explain, or expand on, what is in The Holiest Of The
Holiest Of The Holies
is a Revelation that one can write a thousand books for every
sentence in that Book. So there is a possibility for the people to really write, dissect,
I have been talking
about this for the last twenty-five years, and still we are talking
about it. So there is
much to talk about, much to understand, much to realize.
But all is in THOTH.
There is nothing you can add to it after this Revelation,
plus the Supplements, like the Satsangs and these
Conversations, and the other books like the Golden Keys, The Plan,
The Map, and all those things that have been
given as supplements to THOTH to explain this further,
in more depth for humanity.
Therefore there is no expectation really after this
Revelation of the coming of any Prophet or any Manifestation for
Of course after 1,000
years probably I will return.
In that time we will have, not only the Elects, we will have
the sons of God. They
are the ones who have followed the Eternal Divine Path for a
thousand years. They are
the ones who have created the Communities of Light.
They are the ones who have been walking the Eternal Divine
Path and have brought the
earth. In that time we
are all going to go to Godhead together.
No one can go there by himself.
Therefore there is
not going to be any Great Prophet or Revelation to come after this.
This is it. This
is the last Revelation of God.
There is no Prophet who ever claimed so many times in so many
ways that this is the last Revelation.
They said Prophet
Muhammad was the last Revelation, the last Revealer of the
Revelation of God, but He just mentioned it once at the very end of
His life and He meant His Revelation, His teaching, His book, and
His mission, not the last Revelation.
That is where the
Bible says, “It is finished.
It is done.” When
the Seven Seals are opened, it is finished.
When the Seventh Angel comes, it is done.
There is nothing to add.
How can you add to what is perfect?
Therefore we do not really expect a Great Prophet to come
after this Revelation.
For a thousand years
humanity has to understand this teaching in a greater degree and
implement it in their lives, individually and collectively, and
Heaven On Earth.
Again, welcome to the
Eternal Divine Path.
This is our Conversation Room.
You are welcome to go to our website that has been posted
many times in text.
You can raise your
hand and ask the different questions you might have.
We encourage you to go to our website first, listen to our
other rooms, like All Religions Unified, or Discourses by
If you want to meditate, go to our Universal Mantra
Meditation, or if you like chanting, go to our room called, Chant
with Me. So a lot of
rooms are provided for you to see what we do in the
The most important
part is the Book called:
The Holiest Of The Holies (THOTH), The Last Testament.
Even in the Book it clearly says, “This is the Last
“The Last Testament”
means that is it. It is
finished. The Revelation of God has come to humanity in a last
manifestation of God. We
will come back to this
in the next lifetime, again and again, until this Revelation is
fulfilled, eventually the Kingdom is established on earth, God is
the King, and His Laws are the Laws that humanity will follow.
recognize and realize that.
Therefore come, and surrender and submit to God’s Revelation
and His Ways, and understand this is our salvation.
Salvation is the Communities of Light, and the Communities of Light are based on the
Eternal Divine Path.
You can have
community, but community only can be Communities of Light if
they are based on the Eternal Divine Path.
The base of our
teachings is the Eternal Divine Path.
It shows how there have been Seven Revelations, and each of
these Revelations have come as a part of a greater truth.
But you have to recognize it is a very hard part I have found
for humanity to accept that this is the Last Revelation, this is it!
Read the Bible.
Read the Scriptures.
Read what God has said, and put your understanding based on
God’s Revelation in His Scriptures.
When the Seven Seals
are opened, that is it, it is done!
In The Revelation it clearly says, When the Seventh
Angel pours the last plague, or vial, that is it, it is done, it is
finished. Or when the
Seventh trumpet is sounded, that is it, it is done, it is finished.
The mystery of God is no more.
We have seen in this
how many questions have been asked and always the answers have come
clearly. I have not seen
anyone so far to come and say, “No, your answer was not correct.
I did not like it.
It did not make sense.”
For twenty-five years
all the answers were perfect.
That is from God because God is perfect.
Go ahead, Openeye.
A person can be good, can be bad.
Now when a person is bad, he has a lot of ego that is in him.
Now would there be such a person have the highest ego, which
is bad, go manifest and control the world?
All right, well, they already are ruling the world with the
ego, Openeye, “control the world.”
OK well, they are already controlling the world with the ego.
That is why we have such destruction.
We have such wars and all the things that are happening on
The only thing we can refer to, probably you are talking about the
anti-Christ. Anti-Christ, a lot of people talk about, especially in Christianity
and in Catholicism, in the Catholic Church and other people who
believe in dajjal in Islam, etc.
Such a thing is not a human; it is not a being.
It is Maya or the attraction to the external world.
We do have an essay in our website, “Who is the anti-Christ?”
It explains there is a fallen angel group that is leading
humanity to go astray. Actually they brought a lot of confusion even about
Maitreya and our Revelation.
Could they control the world?
They are already controlling the world.
Maya is powerful, strong, and the people are following it all
over the world. A lot of
people do not believe in God.
They believe that they are God themselves.
They do not listen to the Scriptures.
Actually they shun the Scriptures and Godly things, and
ungodly things have become even more important and more acceptable
than God’s Way. That is
exactly what the anti-Christ is.
Anti-Christ is ego, is the things that we can see related to ego on
earth. He is in power,
and he is controlling the earth already.
We do not have to wait for him to come.
He is already here.
He has been here. He has been leading humanity to this point, and at this time
actually he is really powerful.
We are very few people struggling to spread the Word of God to
humanity, and the world is not listening because that anti-Christ,
the ego, the Maya, the illusion of separation from God is so
powerful that he rules the world.
Therefore we can see anti-Christ or ego is not a person.
It is not a being.
He is not a person that the Scriptures say is going to
fulfill this prophecy and therefore this is anti-Christ.
Anti-Christ is a state of consciousness.
As Pure Consciousness is a state of Consciousness and oneness
with God is a state of Consciousness.
Therefore we can see there are egos that they are controlling
Even individuals that are very powerful and they are controlling the
earth, these wars and all this destruction is happening because of
their egos and what they want to do on earth, not because of what
God wants to do on earth.
God wants unity.
wants Communities of Light.
God wants purity. God wants people to meditate, awaken their spiritual forces, direct
that energy toward the creation of the Communities of Light,
sacrifice for them, surrender and submit to God, and become
Ego wants to be self-centered, selfish, and use the resources for
When we have infinite resources in the universe and if we
reach to the universe, we do not have to fight for a little
resources that we have on earth and then pollute the earth to the
point that it is going to be destroyed.
We can reach the universe and have all the material longings
that we have by using the resources in the universe.
But that is another problem with ego, the vision of ego is very
small. It just sees what
is available at this point and, “How can I get it for myself?”
The vision is not expanded to say, “Oh, the whole universe is
out there, and there are infinite resources that I can reach.
I can have everything I want without destroying other people
to have it.”
But ego says, “No, you are alone, you are lonely, there is no
connection to God, there is no connection to the universe.
This is the only earth.
These are the only resources.
If you want to have a better life, have more.”
That is a very destructive force that has come to us and is
controlling the world at this point.
Therefore anti-Christ, that ego you are talking about, is already
ruling the world. You do
not have to wait for him to come.
By understanding this, you can understand that we have to rid
ourselves of that ego. We have to teach people to come together and create the Kingdom,
reach the universe, bring all the material longings that the human
has, and bring a greater standard of living for everyone.
But use that standard of living to meditate more, to progress
more, and to become in a greater degree close to Spirit.
Go ahead, Youdaassema.
Yes, if Revelation ends at some point in whatever your
Revelation is, why does it end somewhere?
Why can’t it end in any particular place sent by God?
For example, about the Bible, will the real Jesus
please stand up? I do
not think your Jesus can stand up.
And Jesus said I am the door.
In Revelation 23:20, “Anyone who knocks and opens the door, I
will come in.” No mere
messenger. He has to be
more than a messenger. He was absolutely sinless, “Who here convicts me of sin.”
He had to be absolutely sinless.
OK Youdaassema, if you have a question, go ahead.
We know about the preaching of Christianity.
We know about your belief about Christ and all that.
What you say is correct, is true.
We do not deny that.
Jesus was not His name.
He never was called Jesus.
There is no “j” in Hebrew, and you are saved by His name.
If you even do not know His name, how can you be saved?
Your religion is saying the correct thing.
It has been influenced with many other powers and teachings.
Rome, it has been
influenced with a lot of Roman beliefs.
Therefore you have to understand our teachings.
You say, “your Revelation,” probably you do not know about our
Revelation and our teaching.
So we encourage you to go to our website, read our teaching,
and understand that what you believe is a bunch of dogmas and they
have been imposed on you.
You should know His Name.
His Name cannot be pronounced.
How can you believe that you are a Christian if you do not
know His Name?
But do not
preach, OK? We know
about your dogmas and everything.
If you have a question, go ahead.
OK, well, just to reply, just to explain in the most sincere
way I can, sir. I have
been listening for over an hour at what you and your ministry or
whatever Revelation is. His name was Yeshu, translated means Jesus.
It is translated into Jesus.
So I am just calling him a different translation of his name.
Oh like Jesus, “Hey-sus” would be in Spanish.
It does not matter.
You are worshipping the same person.
OK so that is irrelevant.
There is no false doctrine or dogma.
The Revelation ended with Jesus, “I am the way and the truth
and light. He who comes
to me will not perish but has everlasting life.”
No mere messenger like Moses or Isaiah could say that.
He had to be much more.
And I just think you need a dose of Christian theology.
First of all, His Name even was not Y’shua.
You do not know our teaching again.
His Name cannot be pronounced.
His Name is a vibration, an energy within you.
That is what Christ was talking about, that you will be saved
by His Name.
If you do not know
His True Name…, His Name is not Y’shua.
It is not J’weh, and it is not transliterated from Y’shua to
Jesus. I have heard that
before. Many people have
come to our room and said exactly the things you are saying.
You have to realize
and recognize that His Name cannot be uttered in this external
world. In this
Mission we reveal the true Name
of Christ, the name of the Son and the Father.
When the name of the Son and the Father become one, then
Y’shua and Yahweh (which you call him) or Y’wehshua become One,
which is the savior of Yahweh.
If you know His Name then you are saved.
But you do not know
His Name because the moment you say it is Y’shua, or Jesus, or
whatever, Allah, or Mohammad, or whatever you call Him, it is not
Him. It cannot be
Now about the only
Way, I say the same thing, that I am the only Way and the truth.
No one goes to the Father but through me.
That is the claim of every Prophet and every Revealer all
through history when they bring the Revelation, they are the way,
and there is no other way.
If you do not follow their way, you will fall and you will
not make it to God.
Now this way has been
revealed to humanity through the Eternal Divine Path, and no
one goes to the Father but through this Revelation and the truth.
Therefore it is not something new.
Prophet Muhammad said the same thing.
Moses said the same thing.
Bab said the same thing.
They are the only way, in that time and moment they came.
Prophet Muhammad said
the same thing, “Listen to the Prophet.
Whatever He says are My Words.”
They are the Words of God, and you cannot go to God but
Christianity does not
have the monopoly of that saying.
Now it is true in this Revelation, “No one goes to the Father
but through this Revelation and the teachings.”
Therefore that saying 2,000 years ago no longer has the
validity because the other Revelations came, expanded, and furthered
that Revelation before it.
Recognize the truth of God and your Scriptures.
Our teaching is based
on the Bible. The
Bible is the major base of this Revelation.
Go read our teaching; you will understand it better.
Do not preach please, Youdaassema.
If you have a question, go ahead.
If you start preaching I have to red-dot you.
You are not here to preach but to ask questions.
OK, I won’t preach to you and I am sorry if I did.
I just want to in fairness let me say my reply, humble reply,
and then I will go and look at your website.
First of all
because of theological presupposition and philosophical assumptions,
that is why you cannot pronounce the name of Jesus.
Because no one can see God or pronounce the name of God, like
Jews would. That is just
that theological presupposition.
OK it is not a historical one.
The name of Jesus
is Y’shua. That is what
He has been called; that is what He was called in first century
First of all you
say that further Revelation like your Revelation expands and solves
the problems, solves all these problems.
Yet, why does Revelation have to quit, why does it quit with
yours? Why couldn’t it
quit with the Bible?
I certainly think
it did. I think it
certainly makes that point.
If anyone adds to this Revelation, I will translate, you are
going to go to hell in a hand basket.
OK, Jesus was the only one, He said He is the truth, the
Light, that gives everlasting life.
No man has everlasting life except through Him.
No Prophet ever said that.
You can look at the
Koran, the Hadiths, the Old Testament,
anything, nothing was close, no one claimed to be God himself.
In that it is a historic position, you have to come to grips
The question is,
will you follow Jesus right now?
That is the question.
Will the real Jesus please stand up?
And I think the biblical Jesus has been vindicated by His
OK, we have heard these things before.
Again the name is not Y’shua.
That is corrupt.
Actually in the Old
Testament when the Hebrews could not utter the Name of God and
uttering the Name of God would be considered blasphemy or taking the
Name of the Lord in vain, they would have been stoned.
They would have been crucified if they had taken the Name of
the Lord because they knew It cannot be pronounced.
It cannot be uttered.
that His Name was Y’shua at the very beginning of your logic is
faulty because His Name is not pronounceable.
You cannot say the Name of the Lord in vain, or pronounce it.
That is the first step that you have to recognize and
realize, and it is explained in our website and in our teaching why
His Name cannot be uttered in the external world.
Also He is the only
way, the truth, and no one goes to the Father but through Him.
As I said, He is the Light; He is the Revealer of the
Revelations. All the
Prophets said the same thing.
There is no Prophet who did not declare that He is the
Prophet from God and He has the Word of God, and the only way to go
to God is through Him.
We understand you.
You are emotional.
We understand you are a Christian.
You are probably a pretty strong Christian, which is OK, and
you believe the things that have already been answered.
No matter what you
say and ask, Christians have been to our room many times and they
have been answered about the crucifixion, about Christ, His Name,
His claim, and everything.
And of course according to you, Christ is the only way.
But according to
the Word of God there were going to be Seven Revelations, Seven
Seals, Seven Revealers who would bring all of them and then would
open and explain the Revelations.
I know your truth.
You are saying the truth; in The Revelation it clearly
says that if you add anything to the The Revelation, you will
go to hell in a hand basket.
But the only person who can explain and reveal The
Revelation is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, the Messiah, the
Chosen One, He who has fulfilled the prophecies.
He can add to it. He can explain, and He can reveal it to humanity.
He is not going to go to hell because He is already in
If you understand
that The Revelation is based on the Word of God, the
prophecies have been fulfilled through this
Mission, and I am the Lion of the
Tribe of Judah, then you will understand this Revelation is from
So please do not
preach. Just ask
questions. We are out of
time anyway. But go
ahead, I will give you one more chance.
OK, first of all, I do not want to argue, that is not my
purpose in that I am a Christian, you are right.
I am not an ordinary Christian though.
I am a Christian apologist.
I have dealt with all these issues before and still continue
to learn. Let me just
say again, the concept of your theological presupposition and your
views of God, that is why you will not pronounce the name of Jesus,
Y’shua. But if you
weren’t so, you would say Y’shua, or the translation of it, Jesus.
So it just because
of your presupposition of the truth of your Revelation that you sway
to your position on that.
Now the Seven Seals
in The Revelation were not…, they were seven warnings, they
were not Revelations per say.
Note that the final Revelation lived amongst men.
He was Jesus of Nazareth.
He rose from the dead.
None of the other so-called Messengers or Prophets rose from
the dead. He was the one
who rose from the dead and so He also…
None of the other Prophets said they were the Light, the
truth, the way, and through Him was Eternal life.
None of the other Prophets said this.
They said, “Thus
saith the Lord…,” the Old Testament Prophets did.
OK, I have to red-dot you because you are going on and on
again, and preaching, etc.
And about the meaning of The Revelation:
You just added to The Revelation by trying to explain
to it. You did exactly
what you said I should not be doing.
Therefore you go to hell in a hand basket because you are
explaining and you are not Christ.
You do not have the authority or backing of God to tell us
what exactly the Seven Seals mean in The Revelation.
And we do.
We have come with the authority of God, the Revelation, the
explanation, and the prophecies.
Therefore my explanation is more valid than any explanation
anyone else gives.
Again we encourage
you to go to our website and study.
Everything you say about Christ died and rose, that is a
controversial topic that many people believe He did not.
He did not even die.
Some people even believe that He was not even crucified.
Some people say “it seems to them” He was crucified.
believe He was not. He
lived for more than forty years after He was apparently crucified.
So were you there?
How do you know that is exactly the truth?
And you believe in it.
That is your faith.
That is fine. But
even that is possible because God can do whatever He wants, and He
might have risen because that is the symbol of rising from your
lower nature, the first to third chakras, to the higher self.
That is the real resurrection, going from the lower nature to
the higher self.
Anyway, I am glad
that you were so nice and polite about it.
But you have to study our teachings and listen to Satsangs.
These answers all are given.
There is nothing that you brought up here that was new.
There were a lot of
good questions today. Go
to our website. It is
the responsibility of everyone to go to the website and see that
this is the Revelation that God has sent and given to humanity.
Any explanation or speculation is not the correct one.
See the Vision. When you see the Vision then you know there is no doubt that this is
from God and what we claim is correct.
It is God’s
Revelation, and God already foretold this to come.
After you saw that, you become a messenger to reveal this to
the rest of humanity.
Let us bring God’s
Kingdom on earth, and let us expand humanity from their dogmas and
small little religions they are so attached to.
Expand them to a greater degree to bring the
on earth. He is the King