MAITREYA, Conversation With
Sal-OM everyone. Welcome to the Conversation Room of the
In the Name of the most Compassionate, the Merciful, the Lord of the
universe that we gather together to hear the Word of God and realize
that the Word of God has come to man again.
Welcome to the Conversation Room for the Mission of
Maitreya. This is
Maitreya, and I am here to have a Conversation with you about the Mission and what we are doing here,
what we have been doing, and why this Revelation is the last Revelation
from God and His Plan has finished.
Now is the time for humanity to come together and see the
Marvelous God and how He has sent all these religions to earth.
He indeed has
completed the Revelations, teachings, and religions for humankind.
This is the only religion that has been sent for every man,
woman, and child on earth.
Now humanity can see clearly why their religion is a part of God and why
this is the last Revelation, because no other Prophet or Revealer ever
revealed the Seven Seals and opened the Book sealed with the Seven
Seals. Therefore we have a
great Message for man to come together and know for sure that God
exists, because He has said He would do all these things that have been
revealed to us and now He has clearly Revealed that He has been sending
all these Revelations and religions on earth.
Now we are all unified under One God, One Humanity, One Earth,
One Savior, One Spirit, and Oneness.
This is indeed
a joyous period for humanity.
We can clearly watch and observe that God’s Plan is unfolding as
He promised it would.
Humanity, little by little, will realize more and more that they have no
choice but to follow God’s Will and become one, become Godly, and bring
His Laws and His Kingdom to earth.
That is the only way to Peace, Unity, and Oneness for the whole
God has created
all the tools we need to reach humanity, to reach every corner of the
earth, to give this Message to every man and woman in such an easy way
that no other Prophet ever had this opportunity and ability to be
sitting here in front of a monitor and talking to as many people as
would like to hear this Revelation, and to Call them to action, to
realization, and to seeing the Vision of God that has been sent to man.
As it has been
said, if they say, “Christ is here,” do not go.
If Christ is in the desert, you do not have to travel there.
You can be where you are and hear this Message with a couple of
clicks, clicking on some links, going to our website, and seeing the
whole Revelation of the Seven Seals and THOTH, The
Holiest Of The Holies, right there on your screen.
You can realize that God indeed has been sending these
Revelations to man one by one, and see the truth of this wonderful
Revelation that has come to us.
So we really
have to see the Vision clearly and then completely forego our past and
what we belong to, and become a complete universalist and follow God’s
Way instead of man’s way, or our culture, or our beliefs, or our own
understanding, but understand God’s Understanding and His Ways.
If we do that
then we go to the Scriptures, and especially we go to THOTH,
The Holiest Of The Holies, and we realize what God has
been sending to humanity and how He works.
Then we will have a great grip of the reality and truth in the
universe, and we will not be confused and have an unacceptable
expectation of the Messiah to come from the sky, the Messiah is going to
come this way, the Messiah is going to come that way, etc.
He is not supposed to grow old.
He is not going to eat, or sleep, or this and that.
realize, God’s Work is different.
He chooses a man, or a human, and He prophesies for Him to come.
When He comes, He brings the Word of God to man.
This Revelation is the Word of God because it has all the backing
of God. Now we can see this
clearly and dedicate our lives to this as the first in our lives by
recognizing that God is always with us, and therefore the goal of our
life is to be(Come) Divine.
The way to that Divinity is the Eternal Divine Path, creation of
the Communities of Light, meditation, sacrifice, surrendering and
submission, and becoming a universalist.
Five steps in everyone’s life, and those five steps have not been
followed by many people so far.
We have to create communities that will implement these five
principles in their lives.
I have been
giving this truth in this room and other rooms and other ways to
humanity over and over. We
will do that for the rest of our natural life and will continue
repeating this truth and will answer any questions left, if there are
any, since we have been answering the questions for the last
twenty-four, twenty-five years.
Now it almost seems that all the questions have been answered.
There is a huge
amount of information in the website that you can go to, read, and
listen to. There are many
tapes that you can listen to right on the website and search for your
questions. If you could not
find any answers for your questions, come here and ask, and let us see
what the answer will be, or send an email
to the Mission.
If you have a
question now, you can raise your hand and have a Conversation with me
about what you would like to talk about.
We have talked about everything from economy, from social
set-ups, from the many ways of human life, from the smallest to the
greatest. God has already
given how it should be done and how humanity can bring peace and unity
by following His Ways instead of following man’s ways, or man’s
economical ways, or the man’s social ways, or man’s religious ways, or
man’s dogmatic ways.
The whole truth
has been given, and indeed God’s Revelation has been perfected as He had
intended for humanity. So we
have a perfect religion for man to recognize, to realize, to meditate
on, to eventually see the Vision clearly, and to create the
Communities of Light, teach the children and the human to sacrifice
for them, to give of themselves, not to be self-centered and egoistical,
to surrender and submit to the Will of God for them, and then become
OK, there is a
I am a student of science and engineering.
My primary interest is to help poor people, needy people with
technology, to make clean, emission-free energy machines.
What are your thoughts on this, Maitreya?
If you study our teachings, there is a part that talks about science
based on Spirit. This
science is different than conventional science, which has pollution and
by-products. It is based on
nature and the use of recycling, and the way God does it in nature.
If you study
nature, you see God wastes nothing.
He uses and recycles.
Everything on the earth is used in the highest level, even dead bodies,
even dirt, or the things that go to the very bottom of the water are
eaten with the scavengers, which clean the water, etc.
That is how God
works; everything is recycled, because everything in the universe can be
converted to different kinds of energy.
Energy is the Essence of the creation.
Everything is created by energy or vibration.
Therefore by creating different vibrations or energies, you can
create different levels and different kinds of materials in the
The reason for
different levels of creation in any level is: Any level of creation is
in different levels of vibration.
Do you believe there are powerful economic forces, like large
corporations and government leaders, who stress clean technology like
This sounds like a conspiracy theory.
I would probably say that it is because of their ignorance and
greed that is the base of human nature.
They really do not want to go beyond what they know works.
What they know works is oil and coal products, which have
pollution and by-products.
Also, they want
to make money. They have
invested billions and billions of dollars in these technologies.
When new technology comes they do not understand it.
It is just like
a new religion comes and the religions before it do not understand what
this new religion is all about.
So they oppose it without even knowing about it.
A lot of people come to our rooms and they oppose us before even
knowing what we really teach.
They are suspicious about new findings or new science.
That is why the people who want to stay with the old ways are
going to have a harder time to accept this new way.
If you accept
what they believe, become a regular scientist, work for them, purify
oil, and make pollution, you are going to have an easier life because
you are in the flow of the things at this time.
Anytime you bring some new ideas or something that people do not
know too much about, they will oppose it.
The person who does bring such a thing will have a hard time.
On the spiritual realm, what are your thoughts on the being that
Christians and Jews call Satan?
Do you believe there is an actual individual personal entity
named Satan or Lucifer?
In general our teaching is that the human has two natures, the higher
nature and the lower nature.
The lower nature is stimulated with our senses: Our sense of touch, our
sense of smell, our sense of sight, and all the other senses we have;
these pull us to the external world so we desire things.
When we desire, we are tempted.
When we are tempted, we do things that are not Godly.
Whatever is not Godly, of course, is ungodly and from the lower
nature, not from God.
general there is this lower nature in every individual, which is the
devil in every man, woman, and child.
That is why the people do the things they do.
Of course, there are unclean spirits in the universe who have
fallen from The Grace, and they also tempt man and possess man, or they
mislead man to different ways.
But if you are
full of God and absolutely One with the Spirit, those unclean spirits or
any temptation from the senses will not pull you down to your lower
I see, what do you have on the concept that Christians have that Jesus
Christ is the only way and He is God in the flesh, and all people who
die in rejection of Jesus as God and the only savior will go to be
punished in an eternal hell forever and there is no second chance?
That is a Christian belief.
But what is the truth of it?
That is the
concept of Christianity.
That has been actually enforced more with Paul than with Christ Himself.
Christ said, “I am the only way; no one goes to the Father but
So did Prophet
Muhammad. So did Moses.
So did Bab and Baha’u’llah.
So do I. Therefore
there is no other way to go to God but through the Messiah, or the
Messenger, or the Prophets of God that have come to this point.
Everyone that came brought a message to humanity that was the
salvation for man in that time.
Therefore it is
a message that not only Christ gave to humanity but every Messenger or
Prophet of God who came to man said, “There is no other way.
If you do not follow me, you will not make it, you will be
condemned, you will go to hell, and you will burn forever.”
So we can see that this is something that humanity has to
recognize, that all the religions of the world have come from the same
Source, and He does not change His Mind.
When He sends
His Spirit to earth, He comes and tells them, “This is what God wants,
that is the way to go, and that is for your salvation.”
Therefore if we understand that this is true with every Messenger
and Prophet of God, Christ becomes one of them.
Then we understand the Way of God.
If you read our
teachings, if you go to our website and understand that God had already
said He was going to send Seven Religions, Seven Revelations, Seven
Truths, then how can He stop at the third one and say, “Well, no more
are going to come?” It just
does not make sense.
because God said there would be Seven Revelations and Seven Truths, none
of these truths before the Seventh Revelation have the whole answer.
They have a part of the answer.
have to realize that they have to follow Christ, not Paul, and that
Christ was one of the Promised Ones whom God promised to the Children of
Israel, or the Children of Isaac.
Also God promised to the Children of Ishmael, or Arabs, that a
Prophet would come from them.
understand that, then they will realize that Prophet Muhammad had to
come also. If that is true
and God said there was going to be more than the third Prophet, we can
see that Christ cannot be the only way, as no other Prophet after Him
would have come. But sGod
clearly states that no other Prophet has the whole truth until the
Seventh Truth comes and the Seven Seals are opened.
Now they are opened.
If you read our
teachings, you will have a great grip of the truth and reality, and you
will understand that Christ is a part of the Plan, as is Muhammad, as is
Bab, as is Moses, and as are all the Prophets of God.
If you have any
other question, go ahead now.
I am done with this one.
What do you believe happens when we die physically?
Where does our eternal Spirit go to?
Our eternal Spirit is one with God.
You are always connected to God.
There is no separation.
There is no, “Me and God.”
In reality if
you recognize your oneness with God in the body, you realize you already
are one with God. Actually
your Self, or what you call “eternal Spirit,” is God Itself.
There is no separation.
The only reason we separate
ourselves and we think our eternal Spirit is separated from God, is our
ego, which separates us from God and creates a feeling that, “I have a
spirit different than God.”
Therefore at the time of death, if you have no ego, you stay where you
are. You go right to God and
become one with Him. You are
a part of Him already, and you become a part of Him again.
If you have an
ego, of course, you have to leave your ego behind and go to Spirit.
Actually you could say that death is a permanent sleep, a deep,
when you sleep? When you
sleep you lose all consciousness and you do not know where you go.
If you have a lot of subconscious mind and ego, you have dreams
and you receive some messages maybe about your psychological problems in
life. You can solve some of
them by psychological analysis or understanding what these messages in
your dreams are, or what your dreams are talking about.
In the higher
level, if you do not have any ego, or you have a little ego or
subconscious mind, you sleep very peacefully and you have very few
dreams or no dreams at all.
You wake up the next day very refreshed.
You do not need as much sleep as most people say they need.
Some say they need 7 or 8 hours a night.
But you really need around 3, 4,
or 5 hours at most.
So when you die
you really go to a deep, deep sleep.
And when you come back…
OK we believe in reincarnation.
Reincarnation is when the spirit that has not learned its lesson
or has a mission to accomplish, comes back.
When you come
back, at the moment of coming back to the body, you will pick up your
ego again, the one you left behind, and you will continue the next
lifetime. But because you
have been in a deep sleep, and in death, you have been purified and you
see your lessons clearly as to how you can progress in a greater degree.
When you come
back, you will continue in the next lifetime to learn more lessons.
As you learn more lessons, if you really are interested in
spirituality, you progress a little bit.
Every life you progress a little bit, and eventually you reach
Pure Consciousness or Godhead.
So when you
die, if you are in higher consciousness, you go to God.
If you are not in higher consciousness, you return later.
What are your thoughts on sin?
Don’t you think reincarnation will allow people to sin again and
again, and each incarnation you will pick up more sins?
Well, sin is the transgression of God’s Laws.
It is doing something that is not Godly.
So if you come in an incarnation, you sin and you die, and in
sleep are purified and you were told what your mistakes were.
You come back and you sin again.
Then you are dead, you come back, and you sin again, and again,
and again. Then God says,
“Hey, look, you are not learning your lessons.”
The whole idea of being incarnated and coming back to the body is
to learn your lessons.
If you study
our teachings again, you will see that there was chaos.
As the Bible says, “There was darkness, and the Spirit of
God moved over the waters” or consciousness.
Eventually the First Begotten Son went through the Eternal
Divine Path, “And there was Light,” and the Path to return to God is
you follow the Eternal Divine Path, you will go through life and
you will not sin; you will meditate.
You will go through doing sin in your meditation, and you will
see by sinning you create bad karma and become heavier.
Each lifetime you will have more sin to pay for.
So your situation becomes worse and worse, to a point that God
says, “Look, you are not getting it.
You are not listening.”
Are you the Messiah, the Savior?
That is what you have to answer yourself.
If I say I am, you might not believe it.
And if I say I am not, I am lying.
So it is up to every person, every individual, to go to our
website, see the teachings, see the Words, and see if the Words are
based on the Words of God.
If they are based on the Words of God and the prophecies are fulfilled,
the genealogy clearly says that I am from the tribe of Judah and a
Sayyed from Prophet Muhammad, and the Revelation is based on the Word of
God and the opening of the Seven Seals, which can be done only with one
person and one person alone, then they are the Truth.
No other man or
woman or child or any other being can open the Seven Seals but the Lion
of the Tribe of Judah. So
this is what makes me believe who I am.
Now it is up to
you to study, look at our website, look at our Revelation, look at the
genealogy, and look at the prophecies fulfilled.
Eventually realize if it make sense.
Really the final question is, “Does it make sense?”
If there is
only one God, how can we have so many religions, so many separations,
and so much destructive force on earth when there is only one God?
Then you will see that it makes sense.
God has been sending all these religions.
Have you ever met spiritual beings
like angels? What do you
teach on the existence of aliens and extraterrestrials?
All right, thanks for your answers.
Spiritual beings are usually made up by the human
mind. Some people need to
see angels, so they create angels.
Prophet Muhammad had to see
Angel Gabriel in order to accept His
But in general the universe is created by
Consciousness and the three creative forces.
In the ethereal level, if you are able to go to the ethereal
level, whatever you think you can create, because in the ethereal level
you become a co-creator.
Ether is the basic element of creation.
You can mold ether to whatever form you want and create air,
fire, liquid, or solid factors.
Therefore you can create whatever you want.
However, it is not the highest level you can achieve because
still it has the touch and smell, and appeals to the senses.
That is why in our teaching we teach:
Whatever has smell, touch, sight, or any other sensation that we
can use our senses to recognize, is not the ultimate.
It is not the Essence; it is not the goal.
So if you see that the angels are still made up of
material things; they are not Pure Consciousness.
Therefore do not become attached to them.
Go for the highest, which is Pure Consciousness, which is even
beyond mind. It is beyond
the creative forces in the universe.
So Angels can be created by men.
Do aliens live out there in the universe?
The probability of other life forms out there is
greater than not because there are billions and billions of stars just
in our galaxy. There are
hundreds and billions of galaxies all over the universe.
Are they more advanced than us?
When you saw one, then we would know.
But can they travel all over the universe?
If they can be scientifically reached, humans can reach a point
that they can do that as well, but they are not there yet.
They have to become one first before greater knowledge is
released to them.
May I offer you a website, Internet URL, for
Maitreya and everyone here I will post it
and you can save it and…
Well, we really do not want anyone to come here
and preach their preaching or teaching because we already believe that
we have the Ultimate. We
actually want you to go to our website rather than coming here and
posting your website.
Of course if you saw our website and our teaching,
because this is the last Revelation, the Ultimate, no matter what you
can tell us, it is a part of this Revelation.
Why don’t you PM me, or send an e-mail to
firstname.lastname@example.org and I
will receive it. Just send
way it is going to come to us and I will look at your website.
If it is something that is really good, is from God, and everyone
should see it, we will send it to our members to check it out.
We are open to all the
possibilities and those who are working on the science based on Spirit,
and we would love them to come, join the
Mission, become scientists of
Mission, and work
toward creation of the science based on Spirit, which recycles things
and does not create pollution and destructive forces.
We welcome them very much.
But we are not going to follow any other ideas because we believe
every idea is a part of this Revelation.
God is compassion,
Amen, and God is Holy.
Therefore, we do not believe that posting your
website is a good idea, when everyone wants to post a lot of websites.
Then all the text in the room will be URLs.
Welcome to our room.
This is the Conversation Room of
Any question about our teachings, about anything related to the
universe, God, religions, science, social
order, economy, and anything that is related to human life, is permitted
to be asked here. Hopefully
eventually humanity will recognize and realize that all these things
should be based on God.
Science should be based on God.
Society should be based on God.
Economy should be based on God.
Hopefully in the Communities of Light,
people will start helping one another and helping financially,
physically, mentally, and spiritually so people will have enough to take
care of their physiological and safety needs.
Little by little they do not need to go and borrow from the
people who charge them interest.
Therefore after a while human life is going to become much easier
and simpler, because interest is one of the destructive forces in the
By humanity coming together and helping one
another, we can eventually create an earth where the human is much freer
than being a slave without even knowing themselves.
They have to wake up early in the morning, run and go to work,
and work eight hours to be able to make it.
They do not have time to meditate.
They do not have time to awaken their spiritual forces.
Why do the people embrace atheism,
mean if someone examines nature, they see evidence of God’s creating
It is because they really do not know the
Scriptures, they do not meditate, and they do not recognize God in a
Also some people become atheists because they have
some carnal desires. If they
accept God, they cannot follow their carnal desires.
Therefore they reject God so they can do whatever they want.
If they follow God, they cannot sin, because what they really
want to do is sinful, and God and the Scriptures say, “Thou shall not do
They say, “No, we want to do it.
Therefore if I reject God I can go ahead and do whatever I want.”
Usually as the societies become more prosperous,
freer from mundanity, little by little they no longer trust in God.
They trust in themselves.
When they trust in themselves they put God out because by putting
God out they feel they are free and they can do whatever they want to.
Usually in such a society, little by little the Godly people
become the minority, and the ungodly people become the majority.
Actually if you say to someone, “I am Godly,” they
look at you as, “Hum, one of those crazy people that believe in God.”
But the truth is, you are right.
If they meditate on nature, they will see the Hand of God in
every part of the universe and the wonderful creation, especially if
they read our teachings and see how God said He was going to do these
things and He did them. He
was going to send two Prophets, one from the Children of Israel and one
from the Children of Ishmael.
He said there were going to be Seven Seals, Seven Revelations,
and He has done that.
He said that the Seventh Angel will come and reveal all
this truth, and He has done that.
If He has done all these things therefore there is no doubt, God exists.
But atheists do not want to see it.
Atheists want to believe God does not exist, “So I can do
whatever I want to do.” So
we can see that is one reason people become atheists.
The other thing is, the reason people become
atheists or agnostic, is because religions do not have the answers.
Actually in a sense I was an agnostic myself.
I was born and raised in an Islamic environment.
But they told me, “God is sitting up there.
He is angry all the time,” and all that.
After a while I felt, “Well, forget it.
I am not going to follow something that does not make sense.”
Therefore I rejected religion, until I received this Revelation
that made sense.
What are your thoughts on homosexuality?
Do you believe it is wrong and against God?
Really sex is a delivery system where sperm is
delivered to the egg, so a child is born.
Therefore that is the point.
That is another thing that the human has to start thinking about:
To look at the things as how the universe was created for.
Why did God create water, for example?
Water is a very useful thing.
Most of our body, 75% of our body, is water, is moisture.
Therefore we have to drink water, and the purpose of water is to
wash things, etc.
What is the purpose of fire?
The purpose of fire is to cook, to make steam, etc., and to
convert different energy to different things.
What is the purpose of sex?
I know a lot of people enjoy sex and they marry, and all that.
But really if you look at it from the scientific point of view,
it is just a delivery system.
It delivers the sperm to the egg and children are created.
Therefore we can see right there that everything else is not
really the purpose of sex.
We have had homosexuals with us from the very
beginning. So, what should
be done? The problem is that
such a thing should not become a political power, political discussion.
We should not go knock on everyone’s door and see what they do in
their bedrooms. It is
between them and God.
Maitreya, ever thought about getting
I am married.
I have been married since I started the
Actually I had to stay in this country to do this
So my wife is American, and I have a child
already who is sixteen years old.
If you study the lives of all the Prophets of
God…, except of course what Christians say, “Jesus was not married,” but
He really was. Actually He
had two wives instead of one.
All the Prophets of God have been married.
Or is that not in your path now?
Sure, that is no problem.
[laughing] Yes, I have a wife and I have a child.
I have been married for the last twenty-five years.
We have worked together.
My wife and I are very good partners in manifesting this
Of course many other people are helping the
Mission to spread
and letting people know about it.
So in general those kinds of things should not
become that big a deal in society at all.
The bedroom of every person should be left to that person and
should not become a subject of public discussion.
If we do that we can just keep that to ourselves and not make
such a big deal out of these small little things.
We can concentrate on the greater things, which
are the Communities of Light.
Of course, Communities of Light are based on the pure
couples, a man and a woman.
Their purity has to come from God.
They should stick together by the Will of God and do His Will,
and therefore create a pure environment to have great children who grow
in the community, become great people and Godly, and therefore we can
bring the Kingdom of God on earth.
That is the Vision, that is
the truth, and that is the
Mission we have
chosen to bring to humanity.
If humanity realizes the nature of everything, they will not be having
so many arguments about many things that we are arguing about now.
The reason is, we put God out.
The moment you put God out there is no limit of how far we can
There is no, “Thou shall not,” in our lives.
Therefore we do everything that we are not supposed to and
therefore we create destruction.
A lot of people think that sex is just a
relationship. It actually
releases a very destructive energy if it is not based on the pure
marriage and purity. When
that energy is released, people are wondering, “What happened?
We were having so much fun but what is this destructive force
that came after we fell and we did not stay in purity?”
These are things that humans have to meditate on.
That is why, what do those in the Communities
of Light do? In the
Communities of Light the people meditate.
They awaken their spiritual forces.
They understand the nature of things.
You have to see, what is the Daharma of everything?
What is the Daharma of this speaker, for example?
The Daharma of this speaker is, when you talk I can hear you.
If the Daharma of this, or the innate nature of this speaker is
not manifested, it is no good.
You will probably use it as a doorstop, or something else.
It no longer is a speaker.
So what is the nature of marriage?
What is the nature of children?
What is the nature of parents?
What is the nature of a spiritual teacher?
What is the nature of God?
What is the nature of life?
Why are we here?
If you ask that, then we realize:
The Goal Of The Life Is To Be(Come) Divine.
How do you be(come) Divine?
You become Divine by following the Eternal Divine Path, by
awakening your spiritual forces, by creation of the Communities of
Light, by sacrificing, by surrendering and submission to God, and by
becoming a universalist.
Then you become Divine. That
is the goal of life. That is
the nature of being here.
Therefore if we understand the nature of things in
the universe and realize that God is everything in this nature, we will
not fall to the political maneuvering or social trends or opinions or
ideas of man, but we will have a good grip of the truth, and we will
base our lives on those truths.
If we find men and women who truly believe in
these things and they marry with purity, great respect, and
understanding the nature of each of them, they agree on the role of each
of them in their marriage and continue with it, and they stay together
because of it, we are going to have great people who marry for life.
They will have children who will enjoy being in
such a nurturing environment, and they also will grow strong and Godly.
They will continue their tradition over and over.
But if we forget that and become egoistical, and we have our own
opinions, ideas, and arguments, then of course we will have a world that
it pulls all in all directions and everyone is confused.
They do not know which way to go, which one is right.
Should I just take other people’s ideas?
Of course if the idea is propagated and becomes propaganda, after
a while that original sensitivity will not be there.
Propagation is a kind of desensitizing of the human, and it
works. If you continue
saying the same thing over and over and over again, they will believe.
The humans, after a while, are desensitized.
We can see that Hitler used it.
All of Germany
followed him. Many other
countries also have used those techniques, and it does happen.
Humans have to meditate and
become individuals who are not influenced with this propaganda or these
ideas that we see imposed on them, but instead see, what does God say?
What does God want in this situation?
What is His Will?
Christ’s authority comes
from God as Christ is God in flesh.
No other human in all of history has ever been able to make such
a claim and back it up except for Jesus himself.
OK, so you are a Christian.
Is that what you eventually came here to tell us?
So all your questions were to get to this point that, that Christ
is the only way?
OK, the question from Mud-hut is:
Where does your authority come
from and how?
My authority comes from the
same authority that has come to Christ, to Moses, to Muhammad, to Bab,
to all the Prophets and the Messiahs sent by God.
They have all been prophesied to come for a long time; they
fulfilled those prophecies and they brought the Word of God to man.
Therefore that authority comes from God.
That is why Christ is called the Anointed One.
The Anointed One means the person who has received the Spirit of
God and therefore He can bring the Spirit to man.
God is a Spirit. God
is not flesh that you can see.
He is not something you can touch.
It is a Spirit, and the only way you can bring it to humanity is
through a body. That body
usually has been prophesied to come for hundred of thousands of years.
When that body comes to earth, He comes with all the signs that
have been given for His coming.
When He comes, the Spirit of God comes through that person.
That is exactly what is happening here.
God prophesied the Seventh Angel would come.
He would open the Seven Seals.
He would reveal the Book sealed with the Seven Seals, and He did
fulfill the prophecies of all the religions on earth.
In the Bible, in chapter 5 in The
Revelation, it clearly says, “The only one that can open the Book sealed
with the Seven Seals is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah,” which means
genealogically that He should be from the Tribe of Judah, or King David,
or Adam. That also has been
Moslems are waiting for the Messiah or Mahdi, or
Christ, to come from the genealogy of Prophet Muhammad.
That also I am.
So search yourself.
Go and prove to yourself that this is truth.
If this is truth, then you have no choice but to accept me as the
only authority on earth for bringing the Word of God to humanity.
If that is true, then it is your responsibility to prove it to
yourself or to disprove it to yourself.
If you prove it to yourself that it is true, then
you are obligated to come and serve God and His last Revelation.
If you disprove it, of course, probably you made a mistake, and
we leave you to God. So that
is why we say it is the obligation and responsibility of every man and
woman on earth to go and prove this, or disprove it to themselves.
But how can you disprove it?
The Revelation is based on the Word of God.
It is the opening of the Seven Seals.
It reveals the Book sealed with the Seven Seals.
It makes sense. It is
based on God’s Words. Also,
of course there are prophecies and genealogies, etc.
The whole thing, when it comes together, if you
still have a doubt, then there is something wrong with you for sure.
But still we leave it to you to prove it to yourself.
When you prove it to yourself, you will surely know where my
authority comes from.
My authority comes from God.
This is the religion for every man and woman on earth.
that Jesus rose from the dead on the third day and he is now at the
right hand of God?
Well, He surely did fulfill
what He promised He would.
He was crucified on Wednesday, not Friday night.
He rose on Saturday evening, and that is three days later.
If He had been crucified on Friday and rose Sunday
morning, that is only two nights and one day.
Therefore He failed the only sign that He gave for his
legitimacy. He gave the sign
that He will be in the earth for three days and three nights, and He
Now was He crucified, was He dead?
Was He absolutely resurrected but He was not dead?
The people thought He was dead; was He just unconscious and then
He rose three days later?
Well, it is not important.
The most important thing is:
What did He say?
The question is, what did He teach?
What was His Message?
What were His Words? What
did He bring to humanity?
Was He crucified? He
was crucified for sure. He
was put on the cross and nailed on the cross, and surely went through
the agony that He went through.
But really the most important thing is:
What did He come for?
What was His message? If we
understand His message, which is clearly explained in our teachings,
then we understand Christ.
We understand His mission.
We understand what He brought to humanity.
Maitreya, I love you
with the love of Christ but your belief is wrong.
Alright, we leave you to God, and we Love you with the Love of
God, which is beyond human concepts, consciousness, and understanding.
And we tell you, our belief is right.
Actually this is the only right belief on earth.
Any other belief is just a part of this Revelation and belief,
and you have to meditate on this, and understand our teachings.
Do not believe in your dogmas, the religion that you were born
in, and the beliefs that have been formed in your life.
Rely not on your understanding, but on the understanding and Word
The Word of God clearly says that there will be
Seven Revelations. The Word
of God clearly reveals that He promised Abram and Abraham both that
there would be a Scepter or Messiah or Prophet from them.
God has clearly revealed that there will be Seven
Revelations, Seven Seals, and the only time the truth will come to
humanity is when the Seventh Revelation comes.
Therefore we have to tell you that you, I am
sorry, but you are wrong, Duranium.
Paul was not Christ, but he was an apostle chosen
Well, he was not chosen by Jesus; he had a
vision. We do not know what
the vision was. We do not
know who gave him the idea that he was an apostle because the things he
said are not based on the Word of God.
What he said were Paul’s ideas and the spirit that
chose him. He was not even a
close disciple. He was not
even with Christ when He was alive.
Therefore the conclusion is, “What was that spirit
that chose him?”
So He was not crucified?
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For instance, the book of Revelation,
Maitreya, was interpreted in the
Revelation of Jesus Christ of St. John and in chapter 22, it says do not
add to the Scriptures.
That is right, no man or human can add to The
Revelation. But Christ can
because He has the authority of God to reveal the true meaning of the
Therefore again you have to understand and
recognize what is happening here.
If you recognize that, you will see that I have the authority to
add to The Revelation, and only I have that authority.
Any other person who interprets The Revelation differently than I
have is wrong. They have
added to the Word of God, and they will pay for what they have done.
But the true meaning of The
Revelation is the meaning that is given in THOTH.
Do you believe you will one day be a world leader
or the world leader,
According to God’s Will and The Revelation,
eventually Christ will bring the
of God on earth,
and His Spirit will come through the leaders who will bring peace,
unity, and God’s Kingdom.
You will probably say that the same thing is also
said for the anti-Christ.
That is true. The
Anti-Christ already is in control of the earth and “he” has already
taken the power. “He” is
running the world. So “he”
is already the king. “He” is
already the one who is running the earth and humanity.
Now is the time to return earth to God and His Elects.
So if you think the person who will come and take
over the leadership of the world based on God’s Word is the anti-Christ,
then I have news for you that the anti-Christ has already done it.
He is already here.
He is running the earth. He
is the king. That is what
humanity is following.
Your understanding is absolutely skewed, is
absolutely out of date. You
have to update yourself by understanding this new Revelation and
teaching, and overcome these dogmas.
This is not the first time we are hearing the
things you are saying. These
are the things people have come here and said many times.
I speak with the written Word of God, the living
Word of Jesus Christ and God the Holy Spirit that dwells within me and
Well, go ahead and stay with it.
Let us stay and let us leave you to God.
We will see who the truthful one at the end is.
I am telling you, you are wrong.
You are following Paul, and the spirit that chose Paul to bring
those words was not the Spirit of Christ.
Actually you are saved by the Name of Christ, and
His Name never was Jesus.
You heal with the name Jesus, which means “Je- Zeus,” victory to Zeus.
You heal in the name of Zeus, not Christ, not the One whose Name
is not pronounceable.
You do not even know His True Name.
How can you be saved?
Therefore you have to meditate and realize that you have to come away
from that wrong understanding.
Paul actually had a problem with Peter.
Peter and Paul fought for a long time.
Christ said He would build His church on Peter, which means
This is when he was already crucified.
That is not true.
He said this before he was crucified.
The stone was an altar that the Jewish people used to build.
That is because Abraham was actually a wanderer.
He did not have any specific place to settle in.
Anywhere they went, they erected a stone and they worshipped God
upon it. This altar had a
larger stone as its base, and that is what Peter was supposed to be.
altar was built over.
According to your Revelation each human is Divine.
Therefore that is why Christ called him Peter.
Peter was the base of that altar, which was the
Then Paul came and took over.
It was not based on Peter.
Paul fought Peter.
Peter knew that Paul was not saying the truth.
The Bible says there are many anti-Christs
but… I know you have heard it a lot.
Yes, we have heard it before, and you are
absolutely incorrect. Your
religion has been invaded by pagan holidays, with wrong understandings,
and you do not even know the name of Christ.
If it was true that you heal with the Name of
Christ, then why, when Peter and his disciples were healing, did that
magician offer to give money if they told him what they used to heal
with? The truth is that they
never were able to utter His Name, as most of the preachers these days
say, “I heal in the name of Jesus.”
They did not utter it, because it is not utterable.
It is impossible to utter the
Name of the Lord.
Now you call Him Jesus, which never was His name.
There is no “J” in Hebrew.
You can see that your religion is based on sand.
It is not based on God.
God clearly said that there
are going to be Seven Revelations and your understanding and religion is
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Well, I will tell you that if you continue the way
you are going, you will be in absolute trouble with God and His
Revelation because this is the time of sundering.
Those who do not understand the Word of God and think by saying,
“I hug you, I hug you,” the people will fall for the wrong
understanding, then you do not have a grip of the truth.
OK enough of this.
We just leave you to God.
Again it is so unworthy of a people who claim to have the
greatest truth to come here in sheep’s clothing, and then later on turn
around and say these things that we have heard many times.
That is not the Word of God.
Everyone is washed in the blood of Christ.
Christ died for every man, woman, and child.
You do not have to be Christian.
You do not even have to be baptized with water but with The Holy
Ghost, to receive The Grace.
Baptism really means to turn around.
Anyone who turns around toward God is baptized and will receive
The reason Christ’s blood is accepted as giving
Grace to the human is because by His crucifixion He released The Grace
that was taken away at the time of the Garden of Eden.
Therefore He released The Grace back to humanity.
It is available to every man, woman, and child.
You do not have to believe that he was crucified to receive it.
But you have to believe that He came to release The Grace, and
therefore you will receive The Grace.
So it is absolutely paramount that we can make
Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Moslems, Baha’is, and everyone, see
this truth, this reality that has now been clearly Revealed to humanity.
It is the time for Christians to realize that God did promise
that there was going to be a Revelation coming from the Children of
Ishmael, and that God did reveal that there were going to be Seven
No other Prophet is the last Prophet until the
Seventh Angel comes. All of
them are Great Prophets and we respect them.
We respect Christ. We
respect Muhammad. We respect
Moses. We respect Abraham
and all the other Prophets, Messengers, and Ones Anointed by God.
But none of them has the whole truth until the
Seventh Revelation comes.
Now the Seventh Revelation has come, and the truth has been revealed to
humanity. Those who believe
anything else do not have the understanding and the grip of the truth to
know what God’s Plan and Revelation has been.
It is sad that the people have to come here and so
sneakily try to throw their dogmas at us when we have heard this before.
We know about their dogmas but they do not know about this
wonderful Revelation that has come to them, and they resist it.
It is so clear, so wonderfully explained, what
God’s Promise will do. The
Word of God has come to them, yet still they hold onto their dogmas.
I hope they turn around and become one of the Elects, one of the
ones who will be incarnated again and again for the next thousand years.
If they do not believe it, if they do not follow
it, if they do not understand this Revelation, the Truth, and the
Vision, they will not come back.
It is as simple as that!
They will be thrown to the darkness, which is even
darker than the darkest in this manifested universe.
As Christ said, there is going to be the gnashing of teeth and
these destructive things for them.
Ego is powerful.
Ego does not want to see the truth.
No matter how much you tell them the truth, “Look, there is no
‘J’ in Hebrew. How could His
Name have been Jesus? You
cannot be saved unless you know His Name!
If His Name was not Jesus, therefore then you do not know His
Name, so how can you be saved?” or, all the things that are incorrect in
Of course I cannot just blame Christians.
It is the same with the Moslems, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.
We have been dealing with all of them.
There is none of them that really do not have dogmas or
misunderstandings of their religions, which some of them are older than
4,000 years, or even those that have been around for only 200 years, or
150 years still have dogmas, and they do not want to know the truth,
even when God clearly said, the Revelation is not finished until the
Seventh Angel comes.
Therefore we have to leave them to God and pray
for them, and just be concerned about what we know and what we
understand. We have to tell
them the truth and then leave them to God.
OK the question is:
What dogmas do the atheists have?
Their dogma is that there is no God.
They are adamant that there is no God.
They are adamant that whoever believes in God is stupid and has
no brain. Their dogma is
that they are right, and the people who are not atheists are wrong.
Nope, they are simply without belief in God.
I do not assert there is not a God.
Well, atheist actually means you believe there is
no God. Unless you are an
agnostic, then you say, “I really do not know.”
If you had said there is a God, the evidence,
proof is on you.
Yes, that is true.
I accept that challenge, and I direct you toward reading
The Holiest Of The Holies and The Revelation.
There is plenty of evidence that there is a God, because He said
He was going to do things and He has done them.
Therefore go there and read The Holiest Of The Holies,
(THOTH), The Last Testament and you will see that God
said He will send a Prophet from Isaac and a Prophet from Ishmael, and
He has done it.
He said He was going to send Seven Revelations,
and He has done it.
The belief is your prerogative.
I proved it to you, but you do not believe it.
That is not my problem,
I just see words there, no experiments, no
evidence. Belief isn’t
If it is your belief, that is fine.
I am not here to convert you at all.
I am just here to give you a message.
I am here to guide you toward seeing the Vision.
I am here for the Elects.
I am here for those who can see
our teaching and say, “Yes, it makes sense.
It is based on the Word of God, and He has promised everything.
Therefore I agree with
Maitreya that what He says makes sense,
and God exists.”
I am not here to even convert you to believe in
For what it is worth, I am interested in
Buddha believed in God.
He never said there is no God.
I know a lot of Buddhists say, “No, He said there is no God.”
He just was sick and tired of the many gods in Hinduism.
He actually came to purify Hinduism from all the
gods they had. He said, “Do
not worry about gods or God.
Just work on yourself. Know
thyself, that you are eventually going to reach Nirvana.”
So if that helps you not to make a belief in many gods, that is
But there is a Consciousness that is directing the
Consciousness, you can call Him whatever you want to.
You can call It God, or you can call It Allah, or Jehovah, or
whatever you want. But the
truth is that such a Thing is there.
That is a large assertion.
Yes, God is very large too.
So that is why the assertion has to be large in order to be
inclusive of all parts of God.
Actually you have the Essence of that huge God in you, and you
are One. That is what Buddha
was saying too.
You have to reach that ultimate Essence.
In that ultimate Essence there is no mind, there is no feeling,
there is no touch, there is no smell, there is nothing that appeals to
the human sense.
What do you call Him?
People kept asking Buddha, “Explain to us what is
God, what do you mean by all these things?”
He eventually came and said, “Well, it is nothingness.”
No one asked the question
anymore because, who wanted to know what nothingness is?
How can you explain nothingness?
It is like God, explain God.
You cannot explain Him.
So an extraordinary claim requires extraordinary
Extraordinary evidence is in our website.
Extraordinary is in our Revelation.
An extraordinary claim is the fulfillment of the prophecies.
An extraordinary claim is in genealogy, and, of course,
ultimately it makes sense.
If it makes sense, it is extraordinary because nothing else makes sense.
How do we know your perception
isn’t simply fantasy?
Because it is based on the Reality, because it is
based on the Essence.
Anything that is not the Essence, is temporary.
The whole universe is not the Essence; it is a creation.
It is created from that Essence, therefore it is temporary.
If you believe in anything in the external world as the reality
and truth, that is fantasy.
But the truth of that reality is the Essence, which is the reality and
Human beings are
poor scientific instruments.
Well, we are not talking about science here.
We are talking about the Spirit.
Actually the human being is the most advanced instrument to
recognize the Spirit and God within themselves by understanding that
they and God are One.
Therefore there is a difference, there is a
thread, a small thread of separation between spiritual people and
scientists. Science never
can explain Spirit because that is beyond mind, beyond explanation.
Of course a mystic can understand science but can
see easily how limited it can be.
That is why they need a Revealer, a Prophet, to
come from God to them and guide them toward a greater reality that they
Do you think that your perception of reality is
correct, and mine is incorrect?
Well, if any perception is not based on the
Eternal Divine Path, or the Revelation revealed with the Prophets
and Revealers, it is incorrect.
That is what you have to decide yourself.
Is your perception based on the Word of God and
the Revelation of the Revealers, the Essence?
If it is, then your perception and mine should be the same.
There is no separation then between us.
But if yours is different, or you think it is
different; maybe it is not.
Maybe your perception is the same but we do not yet understand how we
can blend them together and understand that we are saying the same
Maybe you think that this Revelation is like other
religions that are illogical; they are based on dogmas and historically
have been affected with a lot of wrong perceptions and understandings.
Then you do not know our teachings.
If you understand that our religion is based on
logic, and it explains science and everything in the universe, you can
see logically, “Yes, it makes sense,” and then you will see that our
perception is correct.
I have trouble with this God entity, but see it
as a leap in logic, a huge leap.
Yes, because logic is a manifestation in the
universe. Logic only can
explain the explainable.
When the logic reaches a point that it wants to explain something beyond
mind, it will stop. It
cannot go any further.
It is just like science.
Science can go to a point.
When it reaches a point, if they go beyond that, they have no
choice but to say, “Yes, God exists.”
Even there is a unified theory now in science that everything
comes from a unified base, an Essence.
Well, if they go a little further and say that
unified Essence is God, then they are not scientists anymore.
They cannot bring that unified Essence in the laboratory and say,
“Here, here is the unified Essence under the microscope.”
But they have come to that conclusion, it has to come from the
same Essence that everything has been created from.
Now that is how far science can go.
If science calls that Essence, “God,” they are not scientists any
Of course many people have.
It is just like Einstein, he reached the conclusion that there is
a Logic behind the universe.
He did not call it God but He came pretty close to say, “Yes, there is a
He even did not know from where he received the
formula E=mc2. He
knew it worked, but he did not know why and how.
Therefore he believed a higher level of consciousness revealed it
to him, and he gave it to humanity.
But he could not ever prove it scientifically in a formula how he
Or another scientist in chemistry found the
structure for benzene. The
reason Kekule found it was because in a dream he saw that a snake is
eating his own tail. Then he
realized it should be a loop, and he found it.
So we can see there is a Logic, there is a
Revealer, there is something higher in consciousness, that has been
helping humanity all along to this point.
Now if you do not want to call Him God, call Him
whatever you want, higher consciousness, higher level, Pure
Consciousness, whatever you want to call It.
But there is One that even science is coming close to that point.
Scientists have little understanding of anything
in the universe. If you
understand it, prove it to me.
Well, that is one of the problems with the logic
that does not believe that there is, there can be, a person that can
understand better than its own limited logic.
Therefore it makes fun of him.
It thinks, “Oh, that is impossible because scientists should
understand better than you do.”
But actually scientists do not, and they will not.
Scientists are often wrong.
The world is not flat.
Maitreya a free cult or is it a
Now you are getting to…
Now you do not have any truth to reveal here and have a correct
discussion, so you start to mud sling.
You see? That is when
you see a person’s logic is out, and their anger and emotion comes in.
Hanibal: I am just asking
No, you are not asking questions, you are mud
slinging. You are no longer
logically discussing things, and you are not conversing.
Therefore it shows your true color, which is anger and emotional,
and is not from a realized person.
There were no rules.
We were playing by your rules and answering your questions.
But it was so logical that you could not handle it.
Therefore you resorted to this kind of behavior.
You started talking about the things that do not make sense.
If you did not ask those
questions, you would have to see that this
Mission is based on
purity and truth, and it is based on helping humanity to come together
and create the Kingdom.
Then the question should be…?
No, it is just the change of tone that shows you
lost the argument. You lost
a logical argument about science, religion, and God, and therefore you
changed your tone. It is not
the question. It is the
changing of your tone from a logical discussion to mud slinging, and
that is when it shows a lot.
OK, so you can see that we are open to everyone to
come here and ask questions about the logical part of our teaching and
our Message. But with coming
here and then being pushed in the corner, you start showing a different
color. That shows you really
are not a logical person.
You have a problem with the logical explanation.
You want to be right.
You do not seek the truth.
To seek the truth is different than trying to make
yourself to be right. That
is ego. If ego is present
you try to be right instead of seeking the truth.
If ego is not present, you will seek the truth.
Those are two different things.
Come here, anyone, and logically discuss about science, about
God, about the state of the earth, etc.
But do not come here and become emotional when you see we have so
much truth presented here to you, and suddenly you start babbling
instead of logically discussing things together.
Well, it sounds like we had a pretty good
Conversation here. But it is
interesting again to see how many people in PalTalk want to be right and
they come here; they are not the seekers of the truth.
But probably there are some who are.
That is who we are looking for because this Revelation is
logical. If it was not
logical I would be the first person who would not have accepted it.
I would have said, “What, this does not make sense,” just like
any other religion that is full of dogmas.
It is not. There is
no dogma in it. It is a
Path. It is a Way.
It is based on God’s Revelation.
It is based on God’s Word.
It is based on what God said He would do.
Therefore God exists.
That is one of the things I wanted people to show
me when I was growing up in a Moslem nation.
I was asking them, “Show me God.
Prove to me God exists.”
They could not do it.
Now He has proved it to me very clearly: first, in
my first meditation, I could see everything is God, then through this
Revelation that God said He was going to do these things.
He was going to send His Prophets.
He was going to send these Revelations.
He was going to send these people.
He was going to send the Seven Truths.
Now He has done it.
Therefore God exists.
Of course again through my meditation, I know He
exists. God is the only
thing that exists. If we
reach that point, then there is no logical explanation.
Therefore I know God exists.
I can tell you, “Yes, there is God.”
Then logically you want me to explain It to you.
It is impossible. It
is an experience. You have
to experience it. God is not
an explanation. He cannot be
explained logically. Also as
I said, scientists are pretty close but they cannot go one step further.
However, He is logical and indeed is Logic.
These explanations are based on the Word of God.
It is an experience that we encourage all of you to have.
It is a Revelation that has been foretold to come.
The closest you can come to explain God logically is that He said
he would do things all through history, and He has accomplished them.
Therefore God exists.
Now your responsibility is to prove it to yourself
and take it to every corner of the world, and let them know that indeed
the Word of God has come to man again and they are called to unity and
I leave you all to God.
Have a Godly week.
See you all next week.