MAITREYA, Conversation With
everyone. Welcome to the
Mission’s Conversation Room.
We did not read the introduction today since you already
know the introduction and are familiar with the
and procedure here. So we will go right into the
Conversation. As usual we are mostly here to
Mission and any
aspect of the
If no one is asking any questions
we will repeat the Revelation and discuss why this is
the only true and viable Revelation from God, and there
is no one in the whole universe who can claim to be what
we claim we have here.
We can see the desperation in the
humans on earth at this time. They take anyone
with a little truth or with a realization as to be what
we have been claiming for more than twenty years.
They accept such a claim without even realizing that the
claimant has not really fulfilled everything that has
been foretold the claimant should have or should
fulfill. So they are desperate, and they hang onto
any small light they find as the beacon that this
Therefore it is our responsibility
again to reach out and let everyone know the beacon is
here. Do not stop by the candle or a small light,
but go to the Sun, which is more truth than anything
that has come to humanity to this point.
Of course maybe that is too much,
too much light, and it blinds those people whose eyes
are not used to so much light. They might not be
able to see anymore because it is too much. But
that is OK, we are looking for those whose eyes are used
to light and they want the Sun, not a candle, not a
lamp, but the whole truth, which is based on all the
foretold prophecies of this coming.
We will be patient and we will
wait until everyone sees that they have to become a
productive member of this community, and if you are not
reaching out, if you are not dedicating your life to
this cause, if you are not completely dedicated to
spread the Message, then your faith will not be strong
and the Kingdom will be delayed.
I was talking to someone the other
day and the discussion was, “When will the Kingdom
come?” The conclusion was, really a lot of it
depends on the human. God adjusts Himself
according to the human’s response to Him. The
sooner people come together, create the Communities
of Light, become productive members of the
community, and the community and God’s Revelation
becomes first in their lives, and reach to those who
have also been called to come to this truth and join
together, the less delay there is going to be in the
coming of the Kingdom.
The person said he cannot believe
that God’s Revelation is based on human response.
Of course, that is not true. Man has free will.
They can choose to come here to see this truth.
They can go to our website and see the Revelation,
opening of the Seven Seals, revelation of the Book
sealed with the Seven Seals, fulfillment of all the
prophecies, and even more that we have already revealed
that they can learn.
No matter what prophecy you read,
you can see, “This is also for this
no matter what, where, or how.
So there is even more to find in
our teachings, and there are treasures that humanity has
not dug up yet. What we have already is too much.
Still humans are hanging onto their dogmas, when we can
see all the signs on earth are pointing to the end time:
Material tendencies, the decline of the great values,
etc. The prophecies clearly say that when human
values are based on their material possessions and no
longer are their higher values respected or encouraged,
then it is the end time. When the justice is not
important, truthfulness is not a virtue, when you can
get away with anything you can get away with, and
everything that has been prophesied at the end time will
be there, it is the time.
Therefore a sensitive person and a
spiritual person feels completely cut off from this
set-up. That is exactly what has been prophesied
will happen at the end time, and it is then that the
Seventh Angel and Revelation, the last Revelation of
God, will come to humanity and unify all the religions
of the world, call on the Elects, bring them together,
and create a society that these new Elects are going to
become the seed of the coming of the Kingdom and the
We are in it, and we are in that
time that this Call has gone out to humanity.
But Maya has also become strong
and powerful, and forces against the Seventh Angel and
this Revelation is great. From economical reality,
from social movements, from spiritual understanding,
from dogmas, from separation between religions, you name
it, the opposition is there and fighting against this
That is why we need the Elects.
We need to Call those who are not affected with this
amazing Maya that has swept the earth and has absolutely
taken over all aspects of human life.
The values are no longer
encouraged. The great values are not taught.
That is when
Krishna clearly said,
“My Spirit will arise on earth and bring the truth back
to humanity.” Eventually the Essence of God’s Plan
and Will, will come to man, and it has. Our
teaching is the Essence and the most direct Path to God.
This is the Message that we have to give to humanity at
Do not worry about wars,
destruction, and all the Maya that is pulling you out to
the world, but concentrate on the Revelation, the
teaching, the Message, and seek those who are also
called to see this Vision. Do not see just the
Vision, but become the Vision, become the truth, become
and our teachings. Seeing the Vision is great, but
becoming the Vision is even greater.
If you have not seen the Vision,
you have not been called for it. If you have seen
the Vision but you are not It yet, you still have a long
way to go.
Becoming the Vision means that the
Vision is paramount in your life and that Vision is what
your life should be based on. If you become the
Vision, then you seek to follow the Eternal Divine
Path. You meditate, you concentrate, you
contemplate, you read, you search, you understand, and
you will see that the salvation of man individually and
collectively is based on the Eternal Divine Path.
That is the Essence of God’s Will.
If humanity realizes that Essence,
then they have a great grip of the truth, the
relationship with God, and the way back home, back to
Godhead. So indeed when you go to God you do have
to leave everything behind. If anything is in your
way to God and it is not coming with you, you indeed
have to leave it.
Cheer Energy: But
didn't the Bible say, "…leave your parents, wives
Maitreya: You are
right; leave your parents, wives, and children.
Indeed that is a personal decision, and those who become
the Vision, if those who are with them will not come
with them to fulfill that Vision, they have no choice
but to leave them to God and continue toward the
fulfillment of God’s Calling for them.
That is the individual
understanding of each person’s life. Those who are
absolutely dedicated to God and His Will, will drop
everything and go to God.
Cheer Energy: Who is
Maitreya: That is the
question that is like explaining God. God is Generator,
Operator, and Destroyer. God is everything and
beyond. God is not explainable but it is an
experience. If you have experienced God then you
do not need an explanation.
How many people have been trying
to explain God for centuries and thousands of years and
how many books have been written to explain Him?
Still the question remains, “Who is God?” Why have
they not been able to explain? If He was
explainable, it should have been explained by now and
everyone would know the meaning of God, who He is, and
what He is.
Therefore the conclusion is, God
is not explainable. But those who have experienced
God have come back to humanity and said, “Yes, there is
God and you are a part of Him. The Spark of God is
within you. If you meditate and purify yourself,
with The Grace, you also will experience Him, or Her, or
It, or whatever you want to call Him.”
So we can see that the only way to
really know God is to experience Him. That is why
the first step in the Eternal Divine Path is
meditation, awakening of your spiritual forces and
knowing the Self, Atman, which is the same as God.
That is the first step. When you experience God,
then everything else in this world will fade away and
you say, “Yes, I know God, and I do not need
explanation. He has created everything. He
has sent all the Revelations, and He has revealed the
Scriptures to humanity. What you say is the truth
because you also said that there are going to be Seven
Revelations, Seven Seals, and no one has opened the
Seven Seals but this
Therefore no matter who is out
there and they are claiming to be the Seventh Angel, the
Kalki Avatar, the Maitreya, this and that, you
simply ask them, “Did you open the Seven Seals?
Have you revealed the Book God sealed with the Seven
Seals, because only one person can do that?”
If you see that clearly then you
have a good grip of the truth, and you will not be
confused with the amazing confusion out there and the
pulls that are in all levels of human existence,
physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually.
We are bombarded with information, with claims, with
pulls that really need a strong person to be able to
withstand them and say, “No, I will not be pulled by all
So the Maya is even stronger now
for humanity. The pull of the world is stronger,
and all levels of human existence have lost it, lost the
touch of God and Spirit.
Yes, Cheer Energy, we were just
explaining that yes, God is unexplainable. You
asked me who God is, and the answer was that you have to
Cheer Energy: Who is
for us humans? Who is He for us?
Maitreya: What do you
mean by that, Cheer Energy? “Who is for us humans?
Who is He for us?” OK, if anyone understand what
Cheer Energy means, please type it in text.
Cheer Energy: May I please
take the microphone?
Maitreya: Yes, if you
want, you can raise your hand and I will let you have
Cheer Energy: What is
He for us?
Maitreya: Oh, you
mean, “What is God for us?” OK, what is our
relationship with Him? If you want to take the
microphone, raise your hand and I will give it to you.
That is what this room is all about. It is a
Conversation Room. We are here to talk about the
teachings and give guidance to humanity to realize that
indeed God has sent all the religions of the world, and
now they are unified.
We are all a part of God. We
were a part of God in the beginning. There is no
separation between this creation and God as the Spirit
behind the creation. But somehow a part of that
original balance went out of balance. As the
Bible clearly says, “There was darkness and the
Spirit of God moved in that darkness.”
Therefore in the beginning some
imbalance happened to the universe. God decided to
help this darkness return to Light and Balance as it was
before. So, the whole purpose of creation is to
guide it back to balance or Godhead or oneness, and God
to us is a Guidance who has been sending Prophets with
the clear Revelations and fulfillment of the prophecies
to guide man back to Godhead.
God to us is a Guiding Light.
He is the Creator. He is the Being who has been
sending the Scriptures to guide man to return home.
Cheer Energy: Is this
an Islamic room?
Maitreya: It is not
an Islamic room. It is a room that is connected to the
Mission of Maitreya. This is a
Revelation that includes Islam, but also includes all
other religions on earth.
It reveals that God has foretold
that there are going to be Seven Revelations on earth.
These Seven Revelations are: the Mystical Paths, which
include, Hinduism, Buddhism, Cabbala, Saints in
Christianity, Sufis in Islam, and all other teachings
that say, “Know thyself to know God,” or as the Bible
says, “Be still and know that I am God.”
The second step is the Old
Testament, the Hebrews, which clearly shows God has been
trying to find a people as His community who will accept
God as King and His Laws as the Laws for the community.
Therefore after the awakening of your spiritual forces
and meditation, you try to create the communities based
on God’s Law and Will.
In order to do that, you have to
sacrifice. That is the message of Christ or
Christianity. Christ taught that you have to
sacrifice in order to create such communities, and He
went to the cross for his ideal.
After you sacrifice for a while,
you might become attached to the result of your actions
and you might fall and either become egoistical or
discouraged. Therefore the next step was brought
by Islam. It is surrendering and submission to
Surrendering means, I surrender
the result of my actions to God. Submission means
that I let God come through me, therefore I do not
exist. Only God exists.
That is the goal of spirituality,
to realize that God exists. You as an ego, do not.
Cheer Energy: When I
look at myself in the mirror and look at the sky, I know
that the Almighty God created us.
So the next step is the expansion of the mind.
That means to expand, to realize that you are a part of
the universe, just exactly what you said, when you look
at the sky and you say, Yes, God created me.
Cheer Energy: When I
look through the microscope at an ameba or a germ, I
know that God created them too.
God created everything.
So with these five steps, which
include: Mystical Paths, Hebrews, Christianity, Islam,
and Baha’is, you will become an Elect. That is
what God has been talking about in all the Scriptures,
“My Elects.” We are looking for those who follow
this Path. Not only is this a Path; it also
unifies all religions.
So in answer to your question, “Is
it an Islamic room?”, Islam is included but Islam is not
the last Revelation of God as clearly explained in our
teachings and in our website. If you go to our
website, you will see that many things have been
Cheer Energy: Are you
Maitreya: Am I Divine
or not? That is what you have to find out.
You have to recognize. Each person has to search,
ask, knock, and understand that. Is Maitreya
Divine? Is Maitreya who He claims to be?
Cheer Energy: So is
He 3, 2, or 1?
Maitreya: God is
everything. God is the numbers too. Actually
there are numerical studies and many mathematicians
tried to prove that God exists. Some of them say
Cheer Energy: Could
He be 4 in the future?
Maitreya: I do not
understand what you are trying to accomplish by these
questions. But if you have a question that you
want to ask that is directly related to God and our
teachings, go ahead and bring it up, to this
Cheer Energy: Do you
believe God can be three?
EmoBloom: Then why
worship? Worship what?
Maitreya: You worship
not for God. God does not need your worship.
You worship for yourself. When you worship, you
direct your attention and intention from mundanity, from
the external world, from Maya, to the higher level of
your being. Instead of talking, thinking, and
acting on worldly things, which the human mind loves to
do and occupying yourself with mundanity, you direct
your energy and thoughts to the higher things.
That is what worshipping is for.
So when you worship, you do not do
it for God. God does not need our worship.
God does not need our praise. He is just content
and One with Himself. Therefore you have to realize that
when we worship Him or do anything for God, we are
really doing it for ourselves, not for God.
That is what the Eternal Divine
Path and all the rituals in the
Mission are for, to recognize
and realize that this world is a temporary place.
It is not the Essence of God. Attachment to
anything in this world will not lead you to the highest
level of consciousness. But by understanding that
God has been revealing all the truth and Revelations to
this point, and the goal of the life is to be or
be(come) Divine by following the Eternal Divine Path,
you have found the Essence of the truth from God.
Cheer Energy: What
are our commitments toward God?
commitment to God is to recognize and realize that we
are a part of God, to return home, to understand His
Revelation, and to realize that God indeed has been
sending all these Revelations to humanity and now they
Our commitment to God is to
recognize that the goal of the life is to be Divine,
going home, back to Godhead. Therefore you have to
know thyself and follow the Eternal Divine Path.
That is our commitment.
Still that commitment is not for
God. Again it is for us, for ourselves.
Cheer Energy: Then after
realizing that He is god, then what?
Maitreya: Well, first
of all He is not God with a small “g.” We are gods
with a small “g.” God is God with a big “G”
because He is the creator.
After we realize that God exists
and He has been sending all these Revelations to
humanity, then you have to ask yourself, why did He do
that? Why did He create the universe? Why
did He send all these Revelations and Prophets to man?
What is the purpose or reason for it?
He has done all these for a
reason. [something was typed in text] Yes,
exactly, for a purpose. What is that purpose?
What is that reason that God has been sending all these
Revelations to humanity?
Then you realize that there is a
reason for this creation. What is that reason?
That reason is clearly said in the very beginning of the
Bible, that there was darkness. There was
something that went wrong. There was chaos,
exactly. And God moved and tried to guide this
darkness back to equilibrium, to Godhead, to return
It is then that His Spirit moved
to that darkness.
Cheer Energy: Do you
think He will treat us all the same way after our death?
Maitreya: No, every
person has karmas and many things they have done in
their lives. When we die, we will be leaving our
ego and going to a place that we are cleansed and shown
our mistakes. When we come back, we take our ego
and karma and come back to the body. Hopefully in
the next lifetime we will do better.
EmoBloom: The word
GOD carries too many distractions.
Maitreya: Why does it
carry too many distractions?
EmoBloom: No GOD,
Maitreya: God is
“is-ness,” Emo. Actually if you study our teachings, in
the beginning God just was. According to our
teachings, God just Is. Put anything in front of
“Is,” and He becomes it. That is why God is
You probably are talking about God
as the dogmas that many religions follow. If you
know our God that we teach here, He is Formless,
Invisible, Nameless, and Eternal. He is FINE.
F I N E: Formless, Invisible, Nameless, and
His only Real Name cannot even be
pronounced in this external world because it is so
subtle that the moment you pronounce it, it loses its
subtlety and becomes corrupt.
So I probably agree with you, if
you are talking about the God of the present religions
in the world, on earth, they carry a lot of dogmas with
God and a lot of man-made ideas have crept in their
religions, and therefore their God is no God anymore.
Their God is corrupt.
If you really want to know God,
know the God that we teach here, and He is the Real God.
He is the Consciousness and the Creative Forces in the
universe. Therefore He does not have any dogmas,
He does not have any form, He does not have any name,
and He does not have anything that creates destruction
as the other gods in their religions have.
Cheer Energy: So
where will those who died as children go to? Hell
Maitreya: Well, hell
and heaven are not places. Hell and heaven are
states of consciousness. If a child is born and
dies, it does not mean that this is his only lifetime.
Probably he had some karmas, and he has come back for a
very short period of time to experience some experiences
in this lifetime and then he leaves the body.
Then he goes back to the
consciousness that he came from, or he learns his
lessons so fast that he does not need to stay around
anymore. He either goes to heaven or Godhead,
which is not a place, really, it is a state of
consciousness or he goes back and will be born again
somewhere else to continue his lessons to learn.
So where does he go? He goes back
to where he is supposed to, and he comes back when and
where he is supposed to.
EmoBloom: God isn’t a
being; it’s just things.
Cheer Energy: Where
are we going after death?
Maitreya: We go back
to the state of consciousness that we came from.
If we have learned our lessons and progressed, we go a
little higher. If we did not, then we will either
go where we were and hopefully we will not go any lower.
Usually that does not happen. It rarely happens,
but usually you progress a little bit in each lifetime
hopefully, and so you are going to go to a better place.
That is the first part of our teaching, Emo. Know
thyself to know God.
However, that is not the end.
That is the Mystical Paths. Many Mystical Paths
teach that is the end. Know thyself, and that is
it. You fall like a drop of water in the
God, and that is the goal.
But the Scriptures clearly say
that God will “spew you out of His Mouth.” You
have to return and help those who have not reached that
state as you have.
Those are actually the Elects.
The Elects have reached a point that they are not
attached to this external world. They are here to
help the rest to go to God. As He said, “The first
will be the last, and the last will be the first.”
As we help others to go to God faster and faster,
eventually our time also will come, and we also will go
Therefore knowing thyself is the
first step in the Eternal Divine Path.
Again, understand our teachings and see that you are
correct, but what you say is one seventh of the truth.
There are six others that you have to add to that
there are places.
Maitreya: Well, they
are not really places; they are states of consciousness.
If anything has form, shape, taste, smell, and it
appeals to your senses, it is not the ultimate. It
is not the Essence. It is not the goal.
If it is a place that you can see,
you can feel, you can be, then it is still not the
ultimate; it is still made of some material, of some
consciousness, and therefore it is not the goal.
The goal is to return to Godhead, return to equilibrium,
return to the state of the unexplainable Godhead.
Therefore it is not really a place.
When you die you do not go to a
place; you go to Pure Consciousness. The ultimate
state of Consciousness is when you are beyond
remembrance, beyond doing, and beyond knowingness.
You just are. Whatever they put in front of you,
you become it.
Some people say, “God is Love.”
God just IS. God is also destruction. God is
also Creator. God just IS, put “Is” in front of
Him and He is that also.
Guest: You think that
after death we keep our personality?
Maitreya: It depends
on what state you are at. If you have realized God
and reached Pure Consciousness, in Pure Consciousness
there is no personality. Personality is the
accumulation of many lifetimes of experiences.
When your experiences are no longer there, and you have
gone beyond this world and experience, then you and God
become One, and God’s characteristics include every
characteristic in the universe. Indeed God is the
sum of all characteristics and manifestations.
If a characteristic is displayed
with anyone, it is a part of God also.
According to… what else… we go to hell or
heaven? I know that I would go to jail if I commit
a crime or a felony. So how do I know when do I go
Maitreya: All right.
You are comparing the external world and creation with
the internal world and Spirit. It cannot be
You can compare them to a point,
yes. You will suffer for sins and for committing
things that are forbidden in this manifested world.
You create karma; you create (whatever you want to call
them) sins; you create burdens on yourself, and you have
to pay for them.
Sins, karmas, and all those things
are there for you to learn your lessons. If you
learn your lessons, if you follow the Laws of the
Universe, then you do not create any karma, you do not
commit any crime. Therefore you are not going to
suffer. It does not have to be a place. It
is a state of consciousness.
People who go crazy and have
multiple personalities or some psychological problems,
are not suffering because they are in a physical place
called hell. They are in hell in the state they
are in. Actually many humans are in hell here and
now. So everything is here and now. Either
you are in heaven here and now, or you are in hell here
and now by not understanding God and His Revelation.
So it does not have to be a place.
It does not have to be hell and heaven. Unless you
say, hell is the state of mind that is separated from
God, and heaven is the state of mind or being One with
God. When you are One with God, you have The Grace
of God, you have the Oneness with God, you have the
understanding of God, and you have the realization of
God and therefore you are in heaven.
When you are separated from God,
you are in Maya and you will not receive The Grace.
You are cut from The Grace, and you are in hell.
Adam and Eve were in heaven when
they were connected to God. God said, “Do not do
this thing.” They did it, and He sent them out of
heaven and cut The Grace from them.
sense I’ve heard on the net.
All right, Emo. Indeed one of the things we are
very proud of in this
is, it makes sense. It makes a lot of sense.
If you have the smallest sense, and common sense, you
will realize that this teaching makes a lot of sense,
and you will find a lot of truth here.
Cheer Energy: How
come comparison is leading to use the logic?
I do not understand your question, Cheer Energy.
“How come comparison is leading to use the logic?”
Can you elaborate on that?
EmoBloom: Karma in
life, not in death. Cool! What do you call
Maitreya: OK, this
religion is called: the Eternal Divine Path.
It unifies all the religions of the world and explains
how all of them have been sent by God. Those who
follow the Eternal Divine Path become the
Divines. Those who follow the teachings are called
Divines and because they become Divines, they are the
Elects of God. Therefore it is called the
Eternal Divine Path, and Divines,
of Maitreya, etc. So really the name can be
the Divines, the Eternal Divine Path.
Cheer Energy: Do you
believe all people need Jesus as a Savior?
everyone who believes in Christ. Of course His
name never was Jesus. You have to realize that.
If you understand that there is no “J” in Hebrew and
Jesus was not really His name, you will know the truth.
I do not know if they really need
Jesus because he never was on earth, a man by that name.
But if you are talking about Christ, or Esa the Christ
who came 2,000 years ago, He was the Son of God and He
came to release The Grace. Everyone who believes
that He came and He released The Grace, will receive His
You do not have to be a Christian
but understand that He also was a part of God’s
Revelation that was sent by God. If you realize
that, you indeed need Him because without Christ you
will not receive The Grace.
So Christ is a part of our
teachings, without all the dogmas and many things that
have been added to Him.
EmoBloom: No teaching
required!!! But nice to hear some sense instead of
dogma. It is a shame you call this a religion.
Maitreya: Well, you
can call it a religion if you want to. Or you do
not have to call it a religion. You can call it
the truth. It depends on your definition of
religion. If you mean a bunch of dogmas put
together and it is called a religion, it is not.
But if you mean religion is a
Revelation by God, which reveals the truth to humanity,
then it is.
So take your pick. If you
want to know the truth, this is the truth. But if
you mean religion like all other religions on earth, it
is not. It purifies all other religions, throws
away all the dogmas, and clarifies the confusion between
Therefore, I do not call it
religion in that sense. We call it religion in the
sense of the Revelation foretold by God to come and now
Probably the word “religion”
carries a lot of other meanings with it. So you
can say it is the Truth; it is the Revelation that has
been prophesied to come and God now has sent it to
humanity. Therefore if you want to know the truth,
if you want to know how God foretold this will come, you
have come to the right place.
But if you have your own ideas of
religion and you resist the truth of it, then you cannot
find the truth and you will go away with the wrong
impression. So I do not want to give you the wrong
impression that it is a religion in the sense of having
Cheer Energy: If He
is everyone’s Savior, what is the Mercy of God for?
Maitreya: That is the
Mercy of God because there is no separation between man
and man, and humanity. For God, everything is a
part of Him and because everything is a part of Him,
therefore His Mercy is for everyone. If you
separate any part of the universe from any other part,
you do not know God and then you are separating God from
God. That is not acceptable.
EmoBloom: It is hard
to get over the word GOD and Christ.
Cheer Energy: Which
book are you reading to realize what God recommended and
what He forbid?
Maitreya: You can go
to our website and a Scripture is there called,
The Holiest Of The Holies (THOTH), The
Last Testament, and it explains the Plan of God.
It reveals some of the things that have been forbidden.
But of course other Scriptures clearly have come to
humanity. They are a part of that new Scripture
that I just told you about. In the section
Essays 3 in that Book, there are the Fifteen
Commandments and many other things that teach you some
In our teachings and Satsangs, you
will realize what is acceptable and what is not.
Cheer Energy: Please,
do you think God’s Mercy stopped and has gone with
God’s Mercy was here from the very beginning, was at the
time of Christ, and continues to this point. He
never withdrew His Grace for those who seek Him and want
to be with Him.
There were many Great Prophets
before Christ came, and there were many Prophets after
Cheer Energy: Guess
that drinking is allowed, and abortion is acceptable.
Maitreya: No, you
guess wrong, and all those things that you say are not
allowed: Drinking and alcohol, although they have
some benefits in some situations, if it is overdone and
used excessively, will lead to disease and illusion and
it creates an environment that you will not be sober,
and therefore you will not be able to perceive the life
exactly as it is.
Cheer Energy: So
everyone is free to make his own guess?
Maitreya: This is you
who is guessing these things and adding to our
teachings. Abortion is a decision between two in a
couple and it should not be taken very lightly. It
should not become a political topic. It is between
God and the couples together. Both in the couple
have the right to that fetus, and they have to decide
together what to do with it in a bond of marriage.
Cheer Energy: Aren’t
we free to guess?
Maitreya: No, you are
not. You are free to guess and to act, but the
result belongs to God. Therefore you have the
freedom of choice but you do not have the freedom of
If you do what is forbidden, the
result will be against you and you will pay for your
indiscretion. You are free to choose God’s Way or
man’s way, but you are not the owner of the result of
You act; God gives the result.
The truth is that God exists.
God has sent all these Revelations. If you want to
know the truth, it has been revealed to humanity.
Cheer Energy: My
questions are bad?
Maitreya: No, you
keep going and asking questions, “Are my questions bad?”
You are just imagining; you are not questioning.
You are injecting your opinions and ideas without
knowing what our teachings are. That is why we
always recommend that you first know our teachings, and
then you can come here and we can discuss it.
Cheer Energy: What do
you mean, you said no books? So now you are
said there is no Book? There is a Book called,
The Holiest Of The Holies (THOTH), The Last Testament.
There has never been a Prophet who came without bringing
a Revelation and eventually that Revelation was written
down as a book, like Prophet Muhammad brought the
Koran, Baha’u’llah/Bab brought the Bayan, the
Old Testament came with the old Prophets, Christ
revealed the Revelation, which became the New Testament,
and Krishna and other Revealers of the truth in India
have their own Revelations and books.
Therefore now the Book is Revealed
as The Holiest Of The Holies (THOTH).
EmoBloom: There is
nothing in books worth learning.
Maitreya: Well, that
is an opinion, Emo. The learning from books and
the Revelation of God in Scriptures are a part of the
spiritual progress. Do you want to seek the truth
or do you want to have your ideas and opinions?
What you say is not according to God and His
Cheer Energy: And
laws of marriage and divorce?
Maitreya: The law of
marriage is a marriage between a man and a woman in the
bond of marrying one another, becoming one in God, and
creating wonderful children in the family environment,
in the Communities of Light, which is the base of
Heaven On Earth.
Cheer Energy: Are all
the verdicts listed there?
Maitreya: All right,
well, what do you mean by verdicts?
Cheer Energy: It
sounds like the questions that are not in this Book?
Maitreya: You have to
elaborate in your questions, Cheer. You are just
saying very short sentences without elaborating what you
mean by your questions. It is very important for
everyone who comes to this room to first go to the
website, understand our teachings a little bit, and look
at THOTH and read it. If you think
that the truth is “not in books,” then you miss it
greatly, because the Revelations of God are in the
books, are in the Scriptures. And the Scriptures
Go ahead, Ishvara.
Maitreya, and Sal-OM to everyone. I would just
like to know a little bit more about the life. I
would like to know more to understand, The Goal of the
Life Is to Become Divine. Could you explain to us,
what means “life?” When was life created, before
the creation, at the same time, life has already been, a
different kind of unit consciousness? Please,
could you tell me?
What is life? Life is energy. Without energy
there would not be any life. Energy was, is, and
will be in the universe forever.
Actually it is funny; some people
say life starts at the time of birth.
Life was there even before the
fetus was conceived. Life has always been there
and will be there forever. There is nothing in
this universe that can be destroyed. The only
thing you can do is convert from one level to another
level. You cannot destroy energy. Energy can
be converted from heat, to mechanic, to light, to
different states, but never can be destroyed. So
it is with consciousness, or human.
When you die, even your body is
not destroyed. Your body is broken down and will
become the basic elements in the universe, and will be
reused and recycled in the universe for other purposes.
It is just like food. When you eat the food it is
broken down to the digestible elements, which we digest
in the body and then is used to rebuild the different
parts of the body.
There is nothing that is destroyed
in the universe. When we realize that, then we
realize we have been here and we will be here forever.
And that is eternity. That
is what is so hard for a lot of people to understand,
what is eternity? That is eternity; you never will
be destroyed, you have been here, and you will be here
forever. God just used the material in the
universe to create whatever is in the universe.
Life has been here and will be
here forever. Life was here before creation but it
was in the state of equilibrium with the other forces in
The Consciousness and the three
creative forces were all in the balanced state.
That is why it was not manifested. It is not that
life was not there but it was not in the state that now
is released in order to create the life as we know it.
So that is the goal of that
energy. The goal of that life is to become Divine.
How do you become Divine? By
following the Eternal Divine Path, by following
our teachings or understanding that you have to awaken
your spiritual forces, that you have to realize that
Communities of Light are where the great society of
the human will be created.
In order to create such a society
or communities, you have to sacrifice, you have to give
up of yourself, surrender and submit to God’s Will for
you, become a universalist, shatter all narrowness of
the mind, and realize that you belong to the universe.
You do not belong to a gender, to a nation, to a
religion, to anything that narrows the mind of the
human. Therefore you can absolutely free yourself
from any narrowness of the mind.
Then you become a Divine.
That energy, that life-form, that life has been given to
you, no longer is bound with the dogmas, with the
narrowness of the mind, with the selfishness, and with
the human will. It will be crowned with God’s
Will, and God’s Will is to follow the Eternal Divine
Path and to bring the
God on earth.
If you realize that, then you
indeed have realized God’s Way.
With this understanding, you
realize God in the greater way, and the truth.
Of course if you do not understand
those things, like this gentlemen here, yelling all
these words without even knowing the truth and the Will
of God, then your energy will be very limited and you
will refer yourself or connect yourself to one religion,
one understanding, one culture, many dogmas that have
been imposed on you, and without knowing the truth you
come here and say all these things that you do not even
understand the meaning of them.
Then such a person even does not
know the true Name of God. Such people will not be
reincarnated; they will not bring the Kingdom because
they do not open themselves to the Word of God that
clearly has come to this
and the humans. It is unfortunate, and we have to
be very sorry for such people that they do not open
themselves to God’s Way, when their Scripture clearly
says that there are going to be Seven Seals, Seven
Revelations, Seven Truths. They do not understand
and follow Christ and his teaching. They follow
Paul, a false prophet.
Therefore they do not understand
who is God, who is the devil, who is Consciousness, what
is heaven, what is hell, and what all these things mean
that were sent by God. We can see again, as I
said, we are struggling against so many oppositions and
misunderstandings in all levels of human existence.
But the Elects do not mind.
The Elects know the truth. The Elects understand
that, “Yes, God indeed said there are going to be Seven
Revelations and Seven Truths coming to earth, and this
Revelation has come by God and now it is fulfilled.
It is the end time. Those who oppose the Prophet,
are opposing God indeed. We are sorry for such a
display of not wanting to know God’s Will.”
Therefore the Goal of the Life,
which has been here forever, is to return back home, go
back to Godhead. Go to that equilibrium.
Bring the chaos, which we can see right now in the text
section in the room, back to God. As we can see,
there is a darkness that is emanating from
misunderstanding, dogmas, religions, narrowness of the
mind, and not knowing thyself.
Everything in the Eternal
Divine Path is manifesting right now there. If
you have the slightest sense you will see, “This is
chaos.” The only way this chaos can be stopped is
by understanding the real Word of God and His Revelation
as the truth. The only way you can find that is
the Revelation by the Seventh Angel or the Revealer of
the Seven Seals.
If you do not know our teachings,
you do not know. That is what God said. He
would be a mystery until the Seventh Angel comes.
When the Seventh Angel comes, the Mystery of God would
be finished. These things that these people are
saying right there in text are the things that they have
learned before the Seventh Angel comes.
Now the Seventh Angel has come,
and they do not want to go, find, search, and know.
But that is OK. Our salvation is God and His
Cheer Energy: What
you are teaching is not new.
The reason you say that, Cheer, is that you do not
understand our teaching. It is new. It has
not been on earth for the last 12,000 years. So
you have to go to our website and read The Holiest
Of The Holies.
The very base of our teaching is
that there are Seven Revelations that were sent by God
in the last 12,000 years. These Seven Revelations
have come to humanity in the form of religions.
The First Revelation that came to man is called the
Mystical Paths, which include Hinduism, Buddhism,
Cabbala, Saints in Christianity, Sufis in Islam, etc.
Cheer Energy: One
word can summarize it all.
Maitreya: No, one
word cannot summarize it all. You have to study
it, and there is no way you can understand God’s
Revelation with one word, OK? It is a 600-page
Revelation, and you have to put effort and understand
Tawanda9: Can you
tell me who is Abdu'l-Baha?
was the son of Baha’u’llah. He was the person who
brought the teaching of Baha’u’llah to the West.
He made the Baha’i teaching to flourish in the West.
He was supposed to be the person
who was chosen by Baha’u’llah to succeed him.
There was a struggle between him and his older brother
of who should succeed Baha’u’llah.
Abdu'l-Baha as the interpreter of
the teaching of Baha’u’llah, taught that there is going
to be the Seventh Angel and the final Revelation that
will come later on. So even Abdu'l-Baha himself
had predicted the coming of this teaching and
Revelation. So that is who Abdu'l-Baha is.
This teaching is based on the
Seven Revelations in The Revelation in the
Bible. It clearly says that God is a mystery
until the Seventh Angel comes. In The
Revelation in chapter 10 verse 7, it says that.
Also later on when the Seventh Angel comes it says, “It
is done. It is finished.” It is now finished
with this Revelation.
This is the last Revelation of God
that has been prophesied to come at the end time.
And we are at the end time. There is no doubt
Cheer Energy: Can you
summarize your belief?
Energy, I just summarized it for you. Apparently
you are not listening. So you should go to our
website and read our teachings there in a greater
degree. It is not a Revelation that can be
summarized in one word, as you requested. You have
to put some effort in it, go there, and study the
teachings in order to understand them.
Basically there are Seven
Revelations, Seven Religions on earth that have come to
this point. They are the Seven Seals that have
come. Now the Seventh Angel has brought this
Revelation of the Seven Seals, and now it is done.
Cheer Energy: You are
supposed to be a missionary and a teacher?
As I said all your questions and all these objections
you are having, Cheer Energy, is because you do not know
We are looking for the Elects.
We are looking for the people who are willing to put
effort, to study and understand our teachings, and then
come here and ask questions about the teachings.
You are not doing that. You
are just going on and on with these objections.
Cheer Energy: What
will I gain if I believe the same as you?
Maitreya: You will
gain your salvation. What will you gain?
That is the gain. Every human will gain that by
understanding our teachings.
Cheer Energy: Can you
give a reason to me, what is the need for it?
Maitreya: Yes, the
reason is, God said that is the way it is going to
happen, and those who understand our teachings only will
be saved. Those are the Elects, and they will go
to heaven, to God, to God Consciousness, and reach Pure
If you do not understand our
teachings, you just will not understand God’s Plan.
Cheer Energy: But why
do I need salvation?
Maitreya: Because you
are in the body. Because you are a unit
consciousness fallen from Grace.
Cheer Energy: I do
drinking does not mean you are going to be gaining
salvation. So all those things you are saying mean
nothing. Many people do that. That is good.
That is good that you kept yourself clean and pure, and
you do not do all those things.
But it is just like a man who came
to Christ said, “I do all the commandments, what else
should I do?” He said, “Drop everything and follow
me.” But the man could not because he was very
Cheer Energy: No
Maitreya: That is
exactly what I am telling you. You do not do those
Cheer Energy: I have
to ask God for forgiveness.
Maitreya: Well, you
really have to forgive yourself first before asking God
for forgiveness. Those who have a problem to
forgive themselves also ask for God’s forgiveness.
Cheer Energy: So what
do I need more?
Maitreya: You need to
follow the Eternal Divine Path. So, “What
do I need more?” You need to understand our
Cheer Energy: Forgive
myself for what?
Maitreya: If you have
something to forgive yourself, “Forgive myself for
what?” If you do not have anything to forgive,
then do not. You do not need to forgive. You
are forgiven. That means that you do not have any
sins, and you are free. Therefore, you should not
be in the body. You should be one with God.
If that is true and you are a
sinless person, then you understand our teachings well,
and you will come, join, and help God’s Plan to be
manifested. Therefore you still have to understand
and realize what God has been trying to do.
Cheer Energy: I'm a
Maitreya: So what?
OK, you are human. Everyone is human. But
that does not mean that you do not have the opportunity
EmoBloom: To follow
Maitreya: No, to
follow is not wrong, Emo. To follow is what God
said you have to do. You have a lot of your own
ideas. Some of them are good, and some of them are
not based on Scripture. If you understand the
Scriptures, you understand that you have to follow God’s
Words. And God Words come through the Scriptures,
through the Prophets who fulfill the prophecies and
bring the Word of God to you.
You love your own words, and that
is the destruction that is wrong. That is not
going to lead you to the higher consciousness. If
you follow God and His Words, then you will have a good
grip of the truth, and you will go back to Godhead.
Therefore this teaching that
everyone has their own ways and path, and they do not
need God, Revelations, and Scriptures is based on human
understanding. And therefore it leads to ego, just
EmoBloom: There is
Maitreya: There is
only me what? What are you going to do? Did
you create the universe? Are you God? Did
you create this universe?
EmoBloom: I am God; I
Maitreya: OK, if you
are Godhead, how did you create the universe and why?
And can you create more?
That is what I mean. With
that teaching you are following, that is where you fall.
You think you are God and no one else is God. That
is when your fall comes, and you will greatly fall into
your ego. Ego is the destructive force that will
bring destruction to you and those who believe in such a
You did not create the universe.
God created the universe, and you are a speck, a very
little speck, of that universe. Therefore, you are
not God with the big “G.” You can be a god with a
small “g” only, and only if you manifest God’s
qualities: Compassion, Love, Understanding,
Realization, and following the Eternal Divine Path.
This is ego that you sit there and
say, “I am God,” just like, “I am God but no one else
is.” Everyone has that Essence or that spark of
God in them, and you have forgotten that other people
also have that spark. You think you are the only
person who has that spark, and that is big ego.
That is absolutely destruction. That is absolutely
separation from God.
Unless you are on drugs, or, if
you are not, later on you will feel miserable because
you are so separated from God. Therefore it is a
sorry state a lot of people are following. They
think they are God. They actually are not even
feeling or knowing that they are a part of God because
they have fallen to ego and destruction. That is a
sad state of realization.
Hopefully such people eventually
will hit the bottom and realize, “Yes, everyone is God.
Everything is God.” They are a part of God but they
have not realized to manifest God’s Compassion, God’s
Love, God’s Understanding, God’s Qualities. They
eventually will realize, “Oh, OK, I have the potential
to become god. I have the potential to manifest
God’s Qualities, but I am not there yet. I have to
Then they ask themselves, “How can
I really become god with a small ‘g?’ How can I
become Divine? How can I realize God is everything
and I am part of Him, and I become a part of His Plan
and Will?” Then you realize, “Oh yes, Maitreya
was saying something about the Eternal Divine Path.
What was that?”
And you may go to our website,
read THOTH, and understand, “Oh OK, the
only way to become a part of God is that I have to
follow the Eternal Divine Path. I have to
meditate, awaken my spiritual forces, understand that
God’s Will for me is to join the Communities of Light,
or create one, sacrifice in it, surrender and submit to
the Will of God and His Laws, and become a universalist.
Then I become an Elect. I become a god with a
small ‘g,’ a part of the big God. Then I can see
that Divinity within everyone that they also can become
the same as I am.”
Then I tell them, “Sal-OM! I
pay my salutations to the Divinity, which is God, within
you,” and therefore I am a part of a greater truth.
Then you say, “OK, now I understand I am a god with a
small ‘g,’ not even a big ‘G.’ I never can become
a God with the big ‘g’ because He is the only One who
has created the universe.”
Therefore you realize our
teachings and you will go away from this delusion of
grandeur that, “I am God, I know everything,” when God
said in the Scriptures, “You do not know everything and
you have to know greater truth to become one with God.”
That delusion, many people have
fallen for it. Actually I myself heard, “God is
everything and I am God.” That was pretty
gratifying that, “I am God;” I forgot that everyone else
also is God. Then, of course, God’s Spirit has
been kind to me and it was revealed to me very, very
fast that, “Hey, everyone else is also God. They
have the Essence of God in them, and therefore I cannot
only be God. God is many, many people,” and on and
Therefore you have to recognize
this delusion and come out of that destructive sphere,
and humble yourself.
EmoBloom: I feel that
I am god and so is everyone else. I am a drop in
the ocean, a drop to the ocean, one with the ocean
itself. Therefore, I am god.
Maitreya: Yes, we
understand what you are saying, Emo, that is great, that
is good. Yes, but God said more than that.
That is the beginning of progress. That is good
that you realize that you are just a part of God and
everyone else also is a part of God. That is good.
But the way you were talking it
sounded like you were saying you are God with the big
“G,” and no one else is. I am glad that you
recognize that everyone else also is God.
But even in that God clearly
revealed that He will “spew you out of His Mouth.”
When even you realize that, you have to go to the rest
of the Eternal Divine Path in order to eventually
stay in the ocean with God.
This is the point that we are
trying to make here that, “Yes, a lot of people know a
lot of truth,” but God clearly said, He is a mystery.
No one really knows the truth until the Seventh Angel
comes. Now also you might know a lot, you have to
know and understand our teaching and the way God sent
this teaching to humanity, and further your
understanding of God’s Plan and Will.
That is the whole point, if you
understand you are a part of God, you are just in the
beginning of the Eternal Divine Path. You
say, “God is Love.” God just IS, Emo. If you
put anything in front of Him,… you say, “Yes, God IS
Love.” But He is not just Love. He IS
everything else, every emotion, every understanding,
every characteristic, every trend of thought in the
universe, is God.
Also He said, “Do not try to come
to Me without following the Eternal Divine Path.
I will spew you out of My Mouth. I will send you
back and say, ‘Go back and help the rest of the universe
to come to me.’”
That is the point of this
That is the point of this Conversation, to make everyone
realize, “You are OK, what you have. Yes, what you
say is the truth. But it is just a part of the
whole truth.” That is what is so unique about this
teaching and Mission in that it expands you in a
just, surely everyone has their own path.
Everyone’s path is of each individual. But they
are adults, and we should follow our Path.
Maitreya: That is the
New Age teaching, Emo, and that is not correct.
Yes, you have your individuality but you are under the
umbrella of the overall Plan of God. If you cannot
see this, then you have a narrow view of God’s
The New Agers are so divided
because everyone is going in different directions
without seeing the whole picture.
You have only a part of the
elephant. You cannot see the whole elephant.
This teaching is the whole elephant.
All right, we have reached the end
of our Conversation today. I hope all of you again
study the website and understand this unique teaching
and Revelation of God, and realize your part in it.
Yes, you are each an individual.
You are each called for a specific task and
understanding, but also there is an umbrella that
everyone is under. If you understand that then you
see the uniqueness of each person at the same time the
whole picture of God’s Will for humanity. Then we
do not argue with you that you have some truth.
We do not argue with anyone who
has some truth. What we are saying is, your truth
is a part of a greater truth. Realize that, understand
it, and if you do that then you will see clearly that we
are not against you. We are not trying to put you
down. We are not saying you are absolutely wrong.
But you do not have the whole truth.
Again, go to our website, study
our teachings, come to our rooms, listen to the
teachings, listen to the people here, and continue to
see that we are not against you but we have brought the
whole picture, and in the whole picture, you are a part.
Sal-OM everyone. See
you next week.