MAITREYA, Conversations with
Welcome to the
Mission of Maitreya’s
us start our session by remembering the Formless, Invisible,
Nameless, Eternal God that has created all things, that has promised
humanity that He will fulfill all the promises He gave to Abraham,
to Isaac, to Moses, to Christ, to Muhammad, to Bab, to Daniel the
Prophet who had seen the Vision at the end time but was instructed
not to reveal it to man. So it fulfills the prophecy for the foretelling of God that God will
be a Mystery until the end time when the last Revelation comes to
man and explains the unity of all religions, that there is only one
God and there are Seven Major Revelations, which together reveal the
Eternal Divine Path.
understand these Seven Major Revelations and when they are explained
to us as revealed in the Eternal Divine Path, we can see that
God indeed exists, He is in charge of the history and man, and all
humans are His Children. We are here to realize that there is only One God and all
Revelations have come from Him.
Therefore understand this teaching yourselves in the greatest
degree and spread it to other humans and to humanity in general, and
gather those who have the Heart and the Mind of God in them, those
who have created this connection for many lifetimes of meditation
and unity, and they can become one.
So we can all
come together and create the universe or the world as a great place
for everyone to live and progress physically, mentally, and
prophecy and this expectation is now fulfilled, and the last
Revelation of God has come to humanity and is explained how God has
been sending these Revelations before this, one by one, and each
human or each society is a part of this truth as the ultimate truth
for them. Now they are
very attached to these parts, and they do not want to let go.
and He fulfills them. Now He is in the process of fulfilling the prophecies of the coming
of His Kingdom and understanding the Mystery of God that will not be
revealed until the Seventh Angel comes.
this Mystery now is revealed and those who understand, have the
Vision, have the Spirit of God, those who have been preparing
themselves for this time, are called to come and see clearly that
God indeed is the God who fulfills the promises He gives to man.
And He is an
able God. He indeed is in
control. Those who do
not believe that, will be left behind.
In the evolutionary process they have not progressed enough
to see that this Vision so clearly and so precisely has been sent by
God to man.
If you have
the slightest Spirit of God in you, you see clearly, “Yes, it indeed
makes sense.” You will
not fight it. You will
not resist it. You will
not become unhappy why your religion or your dogmas are no longer
valid but the truth is a Path, is the Way that you walk it.
It does not have any dogmas.
It does not have any, “a second person comes after the
Prophet and tries to assert their own ideas or opinions as God’s
Revelation,” and because they have egos themselves, they explain the
Prophets egoistically and because their ego taints their
explanation, the man likes that better because man also has ego.
Therefore their explanation becomes more important than the
explanation or the Revelation of God and the Word of God.
That is why
in this time we all have to go to the Scriptures and the Revelation
in The Holiest Of The Holies and what has been
revealed to us through God, and not listen to anyone else but the
Prophets themselves, and not even follow those who are assertive in
their opinions, and their opinions become the norm for the Word of
The Word of
God is very flexible. It
is able to adjust itself to the situation.
It is inclusive.
It is universal.
teaching that does not have these properties is not completely the
Word of God and is dogma.
is on the brink of an evolutionary process with this Revelation.
Any time the Prophet comes, it is a Blessing for those who
are ready and prepared, and is a torture for those who want to
resist it and they do not want to progress to the next evolutionary
evolutionary step is to realize that all religions before this
Revelation are not perfect and they only have a part of the truth.
Therefore if you do not have the whole Vision, if you do not
have the whole truth, you will make mistakes for sure because you do
not know the Mystery of God and you try to explain those Mysteries
according to ideas and opinions.
Therefore you have no choice but to make mistakes.
That is exactly what happened to the religions before this
one, because they did not have the whole picture, the whole Vision.
Now the whole
Vision is clearly given to man.
It is very simple.
It is seven Revelations; it is Seven Messages.
By understanding them you realize there are Five Steps in the
Eternal Divine Path.
Step is to awaken your spiritual forces, which means to meditate, to
concentrate, to contemplate, to pray, to gaze on The Greatest
Sign, and to come to the point that you realize, yes, indeed you
are connected to God, and your spirit and God’s Spirit are one.
Then you realize actually you are not there at all, but God
is there completely, and you are connected to God.
With understanding this and realizing this, you become an
instrument for God.
In the next step
God says, “Create Communities of Light.”
That is the base of the
Heaven On Earth.
If you study the Old Testament, the whole Old Testament is
based on God trying to find a people.
The whole Old Testament is based on God wanted to find a
people who will create community based on God and His Laws.
cannot succeed if there is no sacrifice and everyone says, “What is
in it for me?” or, you will not participate or you do not add to the
community. That is the
message of the Third Seal, sacrifice.
That is the message of Christ that He said that we have to
love our neighbors as ourselves, and that is the community in which
individual and group go together and create an environment that
everyone has their physiological and safety needs taken care of.
They have a place they can meditate and awaken their
spiritual forces that will create a greater community.
Still in this
stage they might not be completely surrendered and submissive to
God, and they say, “No, my will, not Thy Will be done.”
Therefore there is friction and destruction in the
community. So the next
step is surrendering and submission to God.
That is the message of Islam.
Islam means to be surrendered and submitted to God.
you still might have a narrow mind and just concentrate on a very
small part of the universe.
You might not completely become a universalist.
The next step is universalism, which is the message of
Himselfitis, whatever your name is, why don’t you type your question
in text? Unless we know the
nature of your question, then if your question is based on our
teachings and on topic, which is the Mission of Maitreya, we
will let you take the mic.
Go ahead and
type your question in text so we can know.
Please tell me where you derive your authority.
That is a good question, and it is a fair question.
OK, I will let you have the mic, and why don’t you tell us
exactly what you want to know?
Yes, thank you.
I do not
mean to be insulting. I
truly apologize if I sound this way.
I would like to know where you derive your authority.
Please tell me the importance of
The Maitreya; it
is a very important aspect in history, someone who has been
prophesied, of course.
So I would
like to know please, where you derive your authority.
Also I hear you mentioning things Baha’i.
I would also please like to know what your opinion is of the
covenant of Baha’u’llah, the position of
and the great grandson of Baha’u’llah, Shoghi Effendi.
Very good questions. And
of course, this is a Conversation with me, so if you want to make it
in a conversational way, you can always raise your hand and we can
converse on this matter.
comes from the Word of God, from the prophecies, from the
genealogies, from the truth that has been revealed through me to
humanity and has explained that this Revelation would come at the
end time, and it has.
all, it was prophesied there were going to be Seven Angels, Seven
Revelations, that would come to humanity, and when the Seventh Angel
comes, He will reveal the whole truth and finish the Revelation of
Scripture and based on the Word of God.
God clearly said in chapter 10, verse 7 in The Revelation,
“No one knows the truth until the Seventh Angel comes.”
Therefore anyone before the Seventh Angel was not authorized,
was not permitted, and was not given the whole truth.
Even if they have been given some truth, they have not
revealed it to humanity.
It is just
like Daniel; Daniel had the vision of the end time, or Ezekiel.
Many Prophets had the vision of the end time but they never
were permitted to give it to humanity, to reveal it to man.
Therefore the Seventh Angel had to come before this was
So that is
where my authority comes from.
You can go to our website to see the fulfillment of the
prophecies. There is no
person, there is no Prophet, there is no Revelation that has
fulfilled as many prophecies as have been fulfilled through this
and through this Vessel.
genealogy goes to King David and Prophet Muhammad.
That is another thing that Jews, Christians, and Moslems were
waiting for, and therefore that is another sign that is fulfilled.
So all signs are given to humanity very clearly to show when
that Seventh Angel or Prophet comes.
question was about Baha’u’llah, Abdu’l’baha, and Shoghi Effendi.
To explain those, we have to go a little past Baha’u’llah to
the Revelation that came to Bab.
Bab was the founder and the Revealer of the Fifth Seal in
The Greatest Sign, or the
in The Revelation.
He came in an environment that was not very hospitable, not very
agreeable for what he was saying.
He came in the middle of
Iran, in a very Islamic and
fundamental country. He
suffered immensely, and his followers were martyred and destroyed.
clearly shows that in the Fifth Church in The Revelation,
they were martyred, they were killed, and they would be given the
white robes and be with Christ at the end time.
But they all cried, “God, when will the Kingdom come?”
And God said, “You have to wait a while.”
His Revelation came in the 18th century and a while for God is 200
years, is not that long. So the last Revelation of God came 200 years after Bab.
When Bab died (before he was shot and killed), He chose a
person by the name of Sub’I’Azal and told everyone that he was going
to succeed him. The
successor of Bab was Sub’I Azal ’Azal, and Sub’I’Azal came and took
over the movement.
He was a
very timid man. He
wasn’t very energetic, and he was under the influence of his older
brother, who was Baha’u’llah.
had immense authority over him.
He actually was not doing anything without Baha’u’llah’s
knowledge. Little by
little Baha’u’llah became more important than Sub’I’Azal.
the Babis who were following Bab and the Azaleas who were following
Sub’I’Azal, complained. So Sub’I’Azal told Baha’u’llah to go there because the people did
not want him to be so obvious and powerful, more than the successor.
Baha’u’llah went and for two years joined a Sufi group.
who asked the question left the room, but we will continue.
Apparently I knew more than he expected me to know.
Anyway, so Sub’I’Azal told Baha’u’llah to leave, and he
joined the Sufi group.
years, Sub’I’Azal could not bear the leaving of Baha’u’llah.
So he sent for him, and Baha’u’llah came back.
This time Sub’I’Azal absolutely withdrew and Baha’u’llah
became almost the head of the organization.
founder of the Babis, said that the one who is going to come after
Him would come in a while, much longer than nine years that
Baha’u’llah eventually declared himself to be, He Whom God Shall
was some upheaval in
the government deported both Sub’I’Azal and Baha’u’llah from
It was at that time that Baha’u’llah eventually said, “It is
me; I am the person really the Bab was talking about.”
Sub’I’Azal was discarded and disregarded, and was completely
taken away from authority.
there Baha’u’llah changed a lot of things in the teaching of Bab
because he wanted people to be able to live in that hostile
environment. He took out
the militant approach of the Bab in his teaching and made it as a
peaceful religion that now we know as the Baha’is or Baha’u’llah’s
teachings. So Bab
clearly did not choose him as his successor, or the person who would
come after him. He chose
his brother, and Baha’u’llah eventually took over.
many things that you have to be knowledgeable about the Baha’i
Teaching. There are a
lot of things that have been said, which are not correct.
Baha’u’llah, the name, they say means, the glory of God.
It does not mean the glory of God; Jallal’u’llah means the
glory of God.
wrote a lot of Revelations but he instructed his secretary to
destroy them. If he was
the Seventh Angel, he should have revealed everything.
He should not have destroyed anything.
Baha’i teaching we know has a lot of things incorrect in it.
They do not include the Mystical Paths and many other things.
That is why God clearly says in the Bible that the
Fifth Revelation is not perfect; it is not complete; it is not the
You can see
clearly that the Baha’i Teaching, and Bab, Sub’I’Azal, and
Baha’u’llah, especially Bab and Baha’u’llah, were the twin Prophets
that God had prophesied to come.
But they are the Fifth Seal, not the Seventh Seal.
never claimed he was the Seventh Angel.
No other Prophet ever claimed they were the Seventh Angel.
Their followers might have, but they have not.
Even his son, Abdu’l’baha, clearly talked about the Seventh
Angel as the coming of another Prophet and the last Revelation, etc.
So even in
the Baha’i teachings, it is clearly explained that there is another
Revelation that is going to come after Baha’u’llah.
Baha’u’llah died, he assigned his younger son Abdu’l’baha to take
over the organization. The older son became very upset about it.
And after Baha’u’llah died there was a great upheaval between
the two brothers. The
two brothers fought for the position of the leadership authority,
and the problem even spilled out to involve the governor of the
place where they were living.
It went so far that Abdu’l’baha disowned all his family, the
brother, and everyone because they wanted to take over the
eventually Abdu’l’baha became the known leader in the Baha’i
teachings. When he died
he did not have a son, and he did not leave a will.
There is another controversy there that Shoghi Effendi
changed the will, and he was not really the person who was designed
to be the successor.
Effendi did not leave a will.
He left the organization without a leader.
religion has split into seven branches now.
There is no guardian, like Abdu’l’baha and Shoghi Effendi.
It is known that the guardian is the most important thing in
the Baha’i Faith, “Without a guardian there is no Baha’i Faith.”
And there is no guardian.
So we can
see that in truth the Baha’i teaching and their Revelation is done
and finished with. There
is no such a thing as a teaching that is called the Baha’i teaching
anymore because without a guardian there is no Baha’i teaching.
So we can see clearly again that God makes it very clear that
that teaching is done and over with.
the reason so many people say, “Oh, Baha’u’llah said for 1,000 years
no one is going to come after me,” was because he thought he was the
next Major Manifestation, which in the Ishmaelites’ beliefs, lasts
for 1,000 years. That is
one of many problems that the Baha’i teaching has because, as in The Revelation, God clearly says the Fifth Seal is not perfect.
Baha’i teaching is done and over with.
Now is the time for the Seventh Revelation.
Sal-OM to everyone.
I had a question, and I understand some of the fulfillments that you
have fulfilled for Maitreya.
But there are some things I do not understand according to
the Bible. Let me
type this question out in text.
I would like to know, why did the Jews pick up stones to
stone Christ two times? They accused him of making himself out to be a god.
In John 10:33 and John 8:58-59, they were asking the question
who he was. Then He said
in John chapter 8, “…Before Abraham was, I am.
Then took they up stones to stone him.”
And it goes
on to John chapter 10:33 and the reason why, He asked them,
“Why are you stoning me,” and they said because…
Let me read that, “The Jews answered him, saying, For a good
work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy; and because that thou,
being a man, makest thyself God.”
I have is that I see that you fulfill some; you fulfill a lot, of
the requirements for The
understanding is that Jesus was God, that Christ was God.
Can you address that please?
Sure, there is no problem at all.
OK, in the Islamic, Christian, Baha’i, and Jewish teachings,
a human being as God is very unorthodox because they do not follow
the Mystical Paths. In
Hindu and Buddhist teachings, it is something that is accepted.
In the Hindu and Buddhist teachings, all their gurus are
gods. It is very easy
for them to say, “Yes, my guru is really god,” and therefore it is
not that big a thing for them.
We do not know what occurred in the time period between twelve years
to thirty years of Christ’s life.
It is a mystery, and very few people know what happened to
Him. After twelve years
old He just vanished from the scene, and then suddenly when He was
thirty or thirty-three or something like that, He returned and
started preaching in
Of course there is plenty of speculation and writing about where He
was. In general it is
well known that he went to
Egypt, he studied Egyptian teachings
and religions, and mysticism.
Then He went to
and studied Zoroastrianism, etc.
Then He went to
and studied the Hindu and Buddhist teachings.
So he became familiar with the Mystical Paths.
Actually there is a place in
that they have a record of Christ being there.
He was not called Jesus.
He was called Esa.
He went there and stayed with the people in this seminary,
and they have records of Him being there and record of His
So clearly He knew about the Hindu teaching,
Krishna, and all those things.
called himself a god. He
was a manifestation of God on earth.
If you compare the teaching of Christ with the Bhagavad-Gita, you almost feel that someone took either from the
Bhagavad-Gita and put it in the New Testament, or took from
the New Testament and put it in the Bhagavad-Gita.
But because the Bhagavad-Gita is older than the New
Testament, we can clearly say that some of the sayings of the Christ
were very similar to what
was saying in the Bhagavad-Gita.
So we can
see that it was very easy for Him to come to
Palestine and claim what He claimed because he
knew a person can become one with God.
But for Jews, this was absolutely unacceptable because being
God and being Jewish, or Christian, or Moslem, is absolutely not
That is the
problem the Sufis have in the Islamic countries.
Many Sufis who meditated had reached a point that they jumped
of joy and said “Anallah,” which means, “I am God.”
The orthodox Moslems were petrified of what they were saying.
“How can you be God?
God is Allah up there, Muhammad is His Prophet, and everyone
else is the bondman of God and you cannot be God.”
So that is
exactly what happened to the Jews too, when Christ was saying that,
“I am God,” or, “I am the Son of God and I represent God.”
Of course, we can see the Mystical Paths or Hindus and
Buddhists have gone too far.
is God, the Promised One, the Messiah.
Not everyone can come and say, “I know the Word of God,”
because we know God prophesies for a long time before He sends His
Revelation, before He sends His Word to humanity through the chosen
can become God then how can you know who is the Messiah?
So we can
see that Hinduism and Buddhism have gone too far.
Not everyone can become God.
Not everyone can be the Son of God.
Not everyone can come as a Prophet, only the Anointed One,
the person who fulfills the prophecies, who comes with the clear
signs from God, can bring the Word of God to humanity.
sense, we have explained it many times, when such a person is in
touch with God, when He gives the Word of God, just like we are
sitting here together and we are explaining God’s Way and God’s
Revelation, in that moment He is connected to God, and He and God
It is like
when the Jews asked Him, “How can you say that?”
Christ said, “The Father and I are One, and no one goes to
the Father but through me.”
And He was correct in that moment.
A couple of
days later someone called Christ, “Good Rabbi,” and He said, “I am
not good. The only good
happened? Two days ago
He was saying, “I am God, and no one goes to the Father but through
me,” and now you are saying you are not even good.
There is the
conflict and contradiction right there between the two states of
being of Christ, and many people have been explaining it because He
was the Son of God and the son of man at the same time.
How can He be the Son of God if He is the son of man?
That is just a contradiction.
because in that moment when He is connected to God, He and the
Father are one. It is
the Spirit of God coming through Him to you, and there is no
separation between the two.
The two are one.
When He is
not there and He is not connected to God, He is just a man, just a
human being. Therefore
all those gurus and teachers in those Mystical Paths who call
themselves gods and have not fulfilled the prophecies, and are not
the Anointed One, are incorrect.
They can filter some part of God to humanity, and that is
good. They can become
the spiritual teachers who can take you to a point, to a state.
But they cannot take you to God.
person who can take you to God is the Messiah, is the Revelation of
the Word of God, and that only comes through hundreds of years of
prophecies before He comes, and He brings the Word of God to man.
those moments He is revealing the Word of God; He and God are One
and there is no separation.
exactly what Prophet Muhammad said.
When He was revealing the Koran, He said, “Follow My
Prophet. Whatever He
says is My Word.” It is
exactly the same thing as, “The Father and I are One.
There is no separation between My Word, which comes from God
to you, and God Himself. His Word and My Word are One.”
Therefore, “The Father and I are One, and no one goes to the
Father but through me.”
So as it is
here. I have said many
times, “There is no separation when I give Satsangs.
God and I are One, and no one goes to the Father but through
me, the Seven Seals, and the Revelation of The Holiest Of The
If you want
to have a grip of the truth and know the Mystery of God and His
Revelations, you have to read THOTH.
You have to read The Holiest Of The Holies, and
see where your religion falls and how God prophesied that you will
not know the truth until the Seventh Angel comes.
no religion, no revelation, before the Seventh Angel had the whole
truth. Therefore you
have to understand and read this teaching in this last Revelation to
see the truth about your religion.
So you see that, “Yes, he was god.”
So was Prophet Muhammad.
So was Bab.
was Moses. So were all
the Prophets who brought the Word of God to man.
In the moment that they were revealing the Word of God to
man, there was no separation, “The Father and I are one.”
At other times, they were just regular men and lived a
So with this
explanation it clears the confusion that has been reigning for
thousand of years in explaining how Christ was God and at the same
time He was the son of man.
How can He be the only way, and two days later he is not even
good? Now, with this
explanation, it can very easily be seen.
I see what you are saying.
Great, Nifokas, and read our teachings, explanations, and Revelation
that has come to humanity.
It is amazing how much truth has been revealed to man at this
time. I hope, more and
more, the truth and the Revelation is preached.
here are open every day and our teachings are read to man.
Many people are starting to see the truth little by little.
Many people are being connected to us, joining us, and coming
and seeing the truth. By
this, they will hear the teachings more and more, and reach a point
that they have no doubt that the truth has come to them through the
Seventh Angel, and glorify God.
exactly why this Revelation is here, that humanity eventually starts
glorifying God, bringing God in their lives, in their relationships,
in their community, in their nations, in their family, in their
government, and eventually bring the
God on earth
and realize that He exists, He is able, He promises, and He fulfills
Now it is
the time for those who have been meditating, reading the Scriptures,
and preparing themselves for this Revelation, to come forward and
say, “Yes, I want to be a part of this truth and Revelation,” join
us, and create the Communities of Light wherever you are or
come here and help all progress in this Path.
do you think Christ had a wife?
Or do you think He was an austere person?
It is very doubtful that Christ did not have a wife, because it is a
part of the Jewish tradition that the men have to have wives in the
community to be accepted.
If you did
not have a wife and were single, usually you were looked down on and
you are not really able to present yourself as a part of the
community and be asked to read in the synagogue.
I am sure that is still true in many Jewish communities.
Therefore most probably he did have a wife.
We know that
Mary and Martha were very close to Him, and they were taking care of
Him. In the Bible,
it presented them like being friends.
They tried to make Him absolutely unearthly, something that
has no connection to earth.
But most probably Mary and Martha were his wives.
In the Jewish
tradition, also the Islamic tradition, polygamy is not a sin or
against the law so most probably Mary and Martha were certainly his
very well with our teachings that for Christ, or a person like
Christ, there are two female energies for them, like Shakti and Kali
for Shiva, and Radah and Durga for
etc. It seems like there
are two females that are historically related to a prophesied
So we can see
that clearly He was married.
There is no doubt about that.
any other questions?
Supplements in THOTH we have the writing,
“Merge Into God or Play the Play.”
There it says
that merging with God is not the goal of creation.
What is the difference between merging with God, and becoming
Divine and reaching Pure Consciousness?
Merging with God is the teaching of the Mystical Paths.
All the Mystical Paths teach you are like a drop, you reach
Pure Consciousness or you reach God, and you fall into the ocean.
Then you, as a drop, fall into the ocean and you become the
When you drop
the water into the ocean, can you say, “I can still see the drop?”
It becomes a part of the ocean or it becomes the ocean
itself. So the goal of
the life in Hinduism and many other Mystical Paths is to become one
with God and merge with Him, and leave this body.
teaching is, “I do not care about this world.
This world is illusion, and we do not have to worry about it.
Do not worry about this world because it is illusion.”
So the goal is to merge with God and forget about this world.
Of course God
says if you do that, if you try to merge with God without helping
others, when you reach that state, “I will spew you out of My
Mouth,” as He said in chapter three in The Revelation that
those who think they have no problem, “They are neither cold nor
hot,” and they are lukewarm therefore, “I will spew you out of My
God is not with those people who shun this external world and forget
about it. They say it is
illusion and you do not even have to be worried about it.
He said, “No, you have to also consider the external world,
not as an illusion but as a relative truth.
It is not permanent; it is not the ultimate.
It is a relative truth to humanity and therefore you cannot
You have to
stay in the world and create the Communities of Light,
meditate, awaken your spiritual forces, sacrifice, become
surrendered and submissive to God, become a universalist, become
Paravipras, become the Elects, and therefore “play the play.”
Be here, be
effective, be strong, and “take the life with the horns” or fight it
back or whatever is needed to succeed in this world, at the same
time being in the community.
community actually supports you in coming back to an environment
that you can meditate, you can go to God, and then go to the
external world and also succeed in it.
Of course the more Communities of Light we create, the
more the external world will become acceptable, beautiful, and based
on God. Then it will
become easier to go there, share, and be together.
this time we are not in that state, and still the human has to go to
an environment that is not based on the Communities of Light
and the Word of God. So
at least the community is a place to go back to and know the Godly
people are there with you.
You can rely on them or talk about God with them, meditate,
and awaken your spiritual forces.
“play the play.” Play
the process of creation of Communities of Light and bringing
Heaven On Earth instead
of sitting and saying, “OM,
am going to go to God. I
do not care about the whole universe because it is illusion.”
That is not our teaching at all.
So that is
what that essay is trying to convey.
Do not look at this external world as a delusion or illusion.
It is a relative truth based on the goal of life, which is to
become Divine. The Path
to be(come) Divine is the Eternal Divine Path:
Meditation, awakening of your spiritual forces,
concentration, contemplation, prayer, reading of the Scriptures and
the Word of God, and enveloping yourself with the teaching and
Revelation of God. Then
your life is based on Godly ways, and try to either join a
community, which is based on the Eternal Divine Path so
become a part of the Communities of Light, or start a
community wherever you are.
teachings to them and let them know that they have to follow the Eternal Divine Path too.
So little by little more and more Communities of Light
can be created and will be created, and eventually we will have a
wonderful, Godly environment that they can go back to.
We are not a cult.
are not telling you to come here, join us only, stay with us, and do
not go anywhere. Actually, we encourage you to go to the external world, to succeed
in the external world, to be in the external world.
But come back to the community, come back to God.
numbers increase, the number of Communities of Light
increase, little by little you go out there and you meet people who
are also in the Communities of Light, and you can talk about
God, the Revelations, and all the Scriptures.
It is just
like, the people in this community we have here, they go to work.
They meet a Moslem and they talk about Islam.
After a while the Moslem says, “How come you know so much
A Baha’i comes, and they talk about the Baha’i teaching, and they
say “How come you know so much about Baha’i?”
So little by little the people realize those in the
Maitreya are highly knowledgeable of all the Revelations of God
and teachings, and they even know more than the followers of those
religions know. They
know even more because they follow the Eternal Divine Path.
little, the grassroots movement will increase, and when we reach the
critical point it is going to happen.
The Kingdom will come.
God has promised it will happen, and therefore that is our
salvation that God promises and He fulfills them.
way, that is the Path. The Path is the
Eternal Divine Path.
The Path is not just to meditate.
The creation was created based on the original chaos.
It was not just created for our enjoyment, living here,
meditating, and spacing out.
It is absolutely, God said, “There was darkness in the
beginning.” There was
chaos in the beginning. God moved to bring this chaos back to the Light.
That is why He sent His Spirit into that darkness to go
through the process being with the darkness and eventually there was
How did He
reach that Light? He
recognized the Eternal Divine Path.
He followed the Eternal Divine Path.
He went back to God.
He became the Light of the world, and became the First
Begotten Son of God.
From then on,
God continued with the evolution to bring man to this point to again
realize that this is not an illusion.
This world is not an illusion.
This world is a relative truth, and the goal of the life is
to become Divine. In
order to be(come) Divine, you follow the Eternal Divine Path.
If you are not following the Eternal Divine Path, you
will not reach to the Divinity.
this teaching is different than the Mystical Paths, the teaching of
Hinduism. It actually
explains where Hindus go wrong.
It is not illusion.
Their teaching is, “This world is illusion, do not worry
On the other
hand, the orthodox Jews, Moslems, Christians, and Baha’is have no
mystical teaching and they have become completely worldly.
They say, “Our Prophet is the only way, and we are just the
bondsman or man or we have just to go to God.
We have no ability to become one with the Light (God).”
But they each
have a part of the truth.
Again this is unified.
Judeo/Christian/Islamic/Baha’i teachings do not teach that you and
God can become one. They
do not teach that the goal of the life is to be(come) one with God.
The moment someone says this, it is blasphemy in those
they say that this world is all illusion and delusion, and the only
salvation is to become like a drop falling into the ocean and
absolutely forgetting this world.
This teaching again says, ‘No, you all have a part of the truth.
You have realized only a part of God’s Plan.
The truth is, this world is darkness.
This world is hell.
This world, since you talked about the hell, that is what it
is. You goal is to make
this hell, heaven. That
is why the
Heaven has to come on earth.
The way to reach to that point is the Eternal Divine Path.
So we have to
forego our understanding that, “You have to forget about this world,
just meditate, and go to God, or go to the mountains and forget
about this world.” We
have to realize, “No, we have to stay in this world.
We have to create the Communities of Light.
We have to sacrifice for them.
We have to become surrendered and submissive to the Will of
“What is the
Will of God for me in the Communities of Light?
What has He created me for?
How can I help the Communities of Light to be created
and become a universalist, and then become an Elect?”
Even then you are going to have 1,000 years to continue doing
that before you become a son of God.
in the image of God. When you say, “I am the son of God,” it means, “I am in the image of
God. The Father and I
are one.” Your son is
going to be in your image.
He is going to be in the image of you and your wife.
That is what
the Son of God means. It
means becoming one with the Father, in His image.
You can manifest His Qualities.
So that is
the goal of the life. The goal of the life is not to forget about this world.
The goal of the life is not to look at this world as a
delusion, or illusion but as a relative truth that has been created as an
intermediary way or state that man can come and progress in the
fastest way possible to the Light and become one with God.
1,000 years to God is just a second in time.
But that is what it is going to take, that is how long it is
going to take for many even of the Elects and Paravipras to reach
So that is
what this teaching is conveying to humanity.
You should not forego or forget the external world.
The only way to bring an environment that everyone progresses
in a greater degree is by the creation of the Communities of
Light. With this
understanding, you no longer are escapist.
You no longer are a person that says this external world is
With understanding our teachings also, you realize that this
external world is not all there is in the universe.
There is a spiritual world that the present humans are not
aware of because they do not know it exists because their third eyes
were closed at the time of Noah.
If they understand this, they understand that, yes, this is
the state that they have been in and put through history to this
Now they can look at it and say, “OK, now we can go back to have our
powers, to have our understanding of the spiritual path.”
We can awaken our forces and create an environment that more
and more people can see these things clearly.”
Then the spiritual world becomes very real to these people,
and eventually becomes truer.
flood of Noah the spiritual world was truer than this external
world. They were in a
state that they could see the Spirit; they could see the powers, and
they could manipulate the powers.
They failed because they manipulated the powers for selfish
reasons. That is why God
closed the human’s third eye.
Now we are again back to that point that our third eyes might
be opened and we can see the spiritual world.
But with the
history of man for the last 12,000 years, with the teaching of the
coming of the Revelation from the other Prophets, now humans
hopefully have learned their lessons and they realize that by not
following God’s Ways, they will have wars, destruction, separation,
and all the things we can see for the last 6,000 years or even
later, that man had.
Man has not
been able to bring peace on earth because man’s spiritual eye was
closed and the human was left alone for 6,000 years and the
Revelations of God were sent through His Prophets.
Now God is
saying very clearly that is what He was doing:
He closed man’s spiritual eye; He sent the Prophets.
The only way for man to have peace is the Way of God.
The Way of God is the Eternal Divine Path.
The Eternal Divine Path with take you to Divinity or
God. Any other way, any
selfish way, will not work.
You can see,
just right now, a few people have awakened their spiritual forces a
little bit, and right away they go and obtain an “800 number” and
start accepting credit cards for counseling you.
happened? The moment
they reach a little spiritual understanding, they become psychics
and start making money from it instead of going in even a greater
degree toward becoming one with God and fulfilling the goal of their
So you can
see why God does not give us spiritual power because the moment we
receive spiritual power we want to use it for our selfish desires,
selfish things. That is
why we are looking for people who are not selfish, they are not
self-centered, and they are not people who do not understand the Eternal Divine Path.
They are people who want to follow the Eternal Divine Path.
That is the goal.
God is not
going to give up on His Vision and Goal, but He will fulfill His
Vision and His Goal. That is the goal of the life, to be(come) Divine.
The goal of the life is not to make a lot of money.
The goal of the life is not to become a doctor, or professor,
or succeed in this external world as something it becomes your goal.
But the goal of your life, the first goal in life, is to
Of course if
you have the ability to become a good doctor, great.
But it should not absolutely possess you.
The only thing you have to be possessed with is God, the
Spirit, and progress in your way.
I hope that
answered your question, Brad.
If you have any follow-up, go ahead, raise your hand, or type
in text [something typed in text].
Sure, Brad, I
hope that makes sense.
One thing you
really have to concentrate on is why the creation was created in the
beginning. A lot of
people think God came and said, “Be here,” and it was there.
But the Bible does not say that.
The Bible says, even before He created the creation,
there was darkness.
most of the people who read the Bible, keep forgetting.
If they concentrate on that, they might realize as we have
that there was darkness, and God created the creation to help that
darkness go back to God. So the goal of the life, the goal of the creation, is to rid the
self of that darkness.
this whole elaborate creation is for that reason.
If that is the reason for it, then it is not just, God came
and said, with no reason, “OK, here is man, and here is the
We can see
God has a purpose for this creation.
This creation was created for a reason.
It has been created for a purpose.
The purpose is to take that darkness back to Light, to bring
equilibrium to the universe, and go back where it was before.
understand that, then we cannot be escapists because that is not the
goal of the life. OK.
is there truth in astrology?
Astrology seems to have some ancient science to it.
There is truth in almost everything that the human believes in.
But none of them are the ultimate.
There is no doubt; we know the moon affects the water on
earth. Actually when
there is a full moon, the crime rate goes up and the emergency rooms
fill up. It is a known
fact that that happens when the moon is full.
Now why it
happens is because it pulls the liquid of the body toward the brain.
Therefore the brain becomes confused and the mind is not
working as clearly as it used to be when it was not a full moon.
Now do the
other aspects of the universe also affect them?
Yes, they do.
only problem is that astrology only concentrates on the solar system
and the affect of the planets on humans, but humans are not only
affected with the planets in the solar system, but they are also
affected with the whole universe.
really you want to know exactly how astrology should work, you have
to consider the affect of every planet, solar system, super nova,
and many other places that they have affects on the earth and the
whole universe. Then you
might come as close to understanding the correct astrology or the
affect of them on you.
has some truth like everything else but it is not the ultimate
truth. The ultimate
truth is the Eternal Divine Path and creation of the Communities of Light.
Even astrology might progress in the Communities of Light
if the astrologers start bringing the effect of the whole universe
into the picture instead of just concentrating on the solar system.
welcome to the
of Maitreya’s Conversation Room.
This is the last Revelation from God to humanity.
This is the Call to Elects to come and see the truth that has
been revealed to man at this time, start understanding the Will of
God for humans, and start the creation of the Communities of
Light everywhere. You can start from your family, from your friends, from wherever you
When did Jesus gain Pure Consciousness, before the start of His
mission or some point after?
Christ was the First Begotten Son of God.
The First Begotten Son of God reached Pure Consciousness even
First Begotten Son of God was the Spirit of God who was sent into
the darkness. If you
read our teachings, in the very beginning of THOTH, or
The Holiest Of The Holies, it explains how the Spirit of God
came to the darkness and went through the Eternal Divine Path.
He came to
the darkness. He
meditated on the darkness.
Because It was the Spirit of God, He realized that they are
lost and are not Godly, and they are selfish, self-centered, and
egoistical, and therefore He started meditating and attracted a few
beings, or unit consciousnesses, around himself, to His meditation
and awakening of His spiritual forces.
numbers increased, He realized that the greater the number, the
greater the Spirit of God will manifest through them.
Therefore He realized there is a necessity for the
Communities of Light, and He brought these people closer to
they did not realize that if you do that you have to sacrifice, you
have to give of yourself, you have to be concerned for other people
instead of only thinking about yourself all the time, but what is
good for the community, what is best that can help the community in
a greater degree.
realized sacrifice is necessary.
As He sacrificed, if He did not succeed He became depressed,
He became unhappy why it is not happening, why no one is coming to
the community that he was trying to create and bring to the Kingdom
Or, if it
started happening and people started joining, He felt, “Look at
that. I am doing all
these things. I am great
and wonderful,” and He became egoistical and fell from The Grace.
He did not realize that He is not the doer.
It is God doing it through Him.
Therefore He realized that He has to surrender and submit the
result to God or even let God come through.
With this, He realized surrendering and submission is
concentrated on His community and left the rest of the universe out.
Little by little He realized that God is everything.
How can you leave anyone out?
So He expanded Himself, became a universalist, and tried to
help everyone to join the community and go back to God.
That is the message of Baha’i, universalism.
He became an Elect, he became a Paravipra, and He continued in His
Path and eventually He reached Pure Consciousness, back to God.
That is what God said, “And there was Light, and the Light
was good.” God saw, “The
Path is Great. It is a
wonderful Path to bring darkness back to Godhead.”
the human did not listen to that Spirit.
It was harder to help the man in the state of the
unmanifested world. Therefore God created the creation.
The creation was supposed to accelerate the progress of man
As we know
in the Bible, after creation, still man was very selfish.
He was one; he was alone, and God saw that man was alone.
“Alone” means “all-one.”
He was one; therefore God separated man into man and woman or
higher nature and lower nature.
The lower nature fell and brought the higher nature down.
That was the fall of man in the Garden of Eden.
thrown out of
Eden and came to even a
grosser world, so had to till the ground and suffer more.
With suffering they reached a point that they said, “What is
this body? What is this
life? What is this
suffering, and all that? There has to be more.”
Then that is when they started meditating and hearing the Word of
God. Little by little
they became more Godly.
was not enough. Cain
killed Abel and tried to hide from God.
And God, of course, knows what happens.
So all this
happened until the flood of Noah that God even closed the third eye
of man, and made us, which we do not even have our third eyes open
and we do not see the spiritual world anymore.
We are in
the physical body. Even
He took the telepathic ability from us.
So that is what the creation was to this point.
Now we have
to go back, go back to that Spirit, to connect to God, but this time, by understanding the last 12,000 years and the
lessons God has been giving to us, the destruction, the wars, and
how human by himself cannot bring the peace.
The only way to bring the peace is God.
No matter how many wars we wage, how much destruction we
bring, how many ways we try to bring peace, it is not going to
It is not going to happen.
The only way
is the Way of God. That
is what He is trying to show us.
That is why this Revelation has come to humanity, to let them
know, they cannot do it by themselves.
The only way is God’s, learning their lessons, and becoming
an Elect and an instrument for God.
Christ came, or the Spirit that came through the Christ, the Spirit
that came through me, it came through Bab, it came through Muhammad;
that is the First Begotten Son of God, the Spirit of God, and
reached Pure Consciousness before the creation.
what is God doing right now?
God right now is giving Satsang to you through the Internet.
That is what He is doing.
Go ahead, Shirin.
Sal-OM Maitreya. My question is in regard to the
recent events and the landing
of the craft on Mars, and all of this.
I know in
previous Satsangs it says about humans need to reach to space to
find the infinite resources so they can quit fighting each other
here on earth. But it
seems like it is encouraging that this information, this new leap,
is available to human consciousness.
It just feels encouraging that now God is releasing this
information to humanity. Could you comment more about that?
Actually I was
very happy to see that Mr. Bush is trying to do the Will of God and
is looking forward to space exploration.
I hope it continues even after the elections, they are
serious about it, and they really are going to put effort into it
and reach out. It has to
become an international endeavor.
We have so
many minds at this time that are being wasted all over the earth
that they do not have the opportunity really to put their minds into
this great endeavor. If
we create Communities of Light and the
Heaven On Earth
by sharing and cooperation, we can bring a pool of great minds
together that God will send to humanity.
They can easily decipher the secrets of space-traveling and
how we can make the leap to going to other planets or solar systems,
not in thousands or millions of years, but faster and easier.
Eventually we can colonize other planets so we can bring more
unit consciousnesses that can meditate and follow the Eternal
Divine Path, and reach God and accelerate the process.
knowingly or unknowingly is going toward the unity and cooperation.
Eventually they will realize this is only one world, and they
have no choice but to share it with each other.
to the space, their limit of the resources will be resolved because
the universe is unlimited.
If they reach the universe and the other planets, there are
resources there that are waiting for man to go and extract and live,
and even they can move maybe the polluting industries to the
uninhabited planets, and the pollution problem might be resolved as
well. So with all of
these, more and more they will find the science that does not create
minds that at this time are wasted in the countries that they do not
have enough opportunities to develop them, and if those minds come
together and eventually humanity realizes they are much better off
if they overcome their selfishness, share a little bit, come
together, and create an earth that is peaceful and give everyone,
every man, woman, and child the opportunity to progress physically,
mentally, and spiritually, then we will have great creative minds
that they are begging to be noticed and given an opportunity that
they will bring the great leap forward to human evolution, and going
into space becomes a very easy thing to do.
As the number of humans increase, they can go and live on
other planets and make those planets habitable.
A lot of people say that there is an explosion of the population.
But if we had a way to send
some of this population to live on other planets, we can solve the
problem of the population explosion.
We have billions of planets even in our own galaxy that we
can colonize, at least some of them.
That will solve our population problem.
So we can see that all the answers are given.
So the solar system is here for humanity, and the whole universe is
open for humanity to go, colonize, and progress in a greater degree
in all levels. It is a
good step, it is a good thought.
I hope it lasts and it continues.
It has been proposed before.
I think Bush’s father, the first Bush, had proposed the same thing,
and apparently it died because of budget and financial reasons.
This time they say it is a little more practical, and I hope
he is right and they do it.
we divert the resources we are spending on wars and destruction on
earth and bring the peace, we can use those resources in even a
greater degree to reach out to space and solve our problem of the
limited resources that we
all know exist. That is
the reason for most of these wars and destruction.
If we understand that, then we can solve a lot of problems
that we have at this time.
question is Vision. If
we can give this Vision to the leaders, if we can give this Vision
to the people who make the decisions and they eventually realize
that, “Yes, if we stop the small bickering and destructive religious
ideas that are on earth, realize that God has sent all of them,
forget about our dogmas that, ‘I am the Chosen One, I am the last
one, I am the best one, I am the this and that,’ realize that God
has been sending these Revelations to all of them and now they are
all a part of God, and come together and bring the peace,” then we
can bring the Kingdom of God on earth.
That is the only way to accomplish this.
Yes, we can
release great resources and human minds to concentrate on reaching
to the universe. We have
the ability. We have the
resources but we are using them in the wrong way because there is no
vision. The vision is
small. The vision is
limited to now in this limited earth.
expand their vision to become universalists and reach out into
space. So we can see
that the answer is there, it is given.
But they have to expand their vision.
They have to see this Revelation truly and become one
together, and forego their dogmas, their own understandings, but
understand God’s Understanding.
If they do
this tonight, we can have peace tomorrow.
If they do this tonight, we are going to have enough
resources to do what we want to do.
If they do
this tonight, we will have enough minds to be put into this endeavor
I hope that
answered the question of Shirin.
I hope that humanity does eventually see that they are much
better off if they succeed in this and become one with God’s Words
and the universe.
If they do
not, they will suffer themselves, and that is unfortunately what is
coming. That is what is
going to happen; that is the prophecy that humanity is not going to
listen. They are not
going to give up this small vision, and a great destruction is going
to come to them.
unfortunate because the answers have been given to them.
God has revealed the way to bring the peace and unity.
God has brought to them the way out.
He has expanded their vision, unified them, and said, “You
are all brothers and sisters; you all are brothers and sisters in
God. You are the
children of the same Creator.
There is no separation between any religions or people, and
therefore you can become one and create the
Heaven On Earth.
The way is the Eternal Divine Path.”
It is very simple!
individual has to understand the Eternal Divine Path, the
unity of the religions, and start following It.
Fighting It is not going to work.
God has decided this is It.
His Kingdom will come.
Now if you go against His Will, what is going to happen?
Do you think you will succeed?
People in the
past did not succeed. Before the flood of Noah they were even more powerful than we were
or are, and they did not succeed.
So we can
completely see that the Vision is much more expanded than any other
on earth. The idea is
good. The idea is good
to reach to space, but the idea is based on a small vision, and
small visions, of course, do not succeed.
This is not
the time for the vision of one place on earth to do this.
It is the time for expanding our understanding to the whole
OK, there is
a question about,
any thoughts on the New World Order?
I suppose you are referring to the business classes taking over the
world and unifying them because unification of the world is good for
the business. So they do
not have to fight
Iraq, and they
can take care of Saddam Hussein before we can have some resources in
those areas, and we can all cooperate and create an environment that
helps the business world.
That again goes with the smallness of the vision.
The new World Order is only for the earth.
Those who will create the New World Order are going to be the
people who will run it, take advantage of it, and bring great
suffering again to humanity and enslave the rest of the earth to
become workers for the business class.
Any time the vision is small, it will create more suffering and
destruction. The only
way to overcome this destructive vision is expansion of the mind and
Heaven On Earth.
again a human idea. To
them it is a good idea. They think because they thought about it and it works for them, it
is a good idea. But it
is not God’s Idea.
It is not
God’s Idea and because it is not God’s Idea, it is not going to
work. The only ideas
from God are what we already have gone through and established, and
that is the Eternal Divine Path, Communities of Light,
Heaven On Earth, and creation of
communities that the individual can progress physically, mentally,
In the New
World Order there is no talk about individual salvation to God or
Light. There is no talk
about that every man and woman should progress physically, mentally,
spiritually, and emotionally.
talk about how we can best use the resources on earth.
That is theirs.
Their vision is small, and it is not going to be as effective as
they think it will. It
will bring resentment, destruction, revolution, terrorism, and all
the things that we already have.
Therefore it is not a good idea.
A good idea
is God’s idea.
I hope you
all enjoyed this Conversation with me.
Our time is up.
If there are no other questions left here, then we will say farewell
to all of you. We leave
you to God to ponder this teaching, the truth, the Revelation, and
become one with what has been revealed to you through God and become
one with this Truth.
Have a good
week. Be with God, and
God be with you. And
Go to our website, understand our teachings, and be one with
the truth that has been given to you.