MAITREYA, Conversations with
Welcome to the
Mission of Maitreya’s
means, we pay our salutations to the Divinity within you.
We recognize that you are a spark of God, and God is within
each of us and therefore we have no choice but to respect that
Divinity and Essence in each man, woman, and child.
If we create such an outlook on the whole earth and people
start seeing that Essence in one another, and start strengthening
each other, that will eliminate 99% of the problems that we have on
created everything from His Own Body and there is nothing in the
universe but God. If we
recognize and realize this truth, then we have no choice but to see
that Essence in them. If people are not respectful or respectable or not able to see the
Essence in other people, you can teach them instead of hate them for
what they do because you cannot hate God if we are Godly and know
that He is everything.
“Sal-OM” is a healing power and healing approach to our daily life
and our greeting to one another.
It is just not a meaningless word but we should really mean
it when we say, “I pay my salutations to the Divinity within you,”
which is God, and learn more and more to see truly that everyone is
the Essence of God.
what religion they are from, what nation, what color, what gender…,
that Essence is in them as well.
We cannot hate that Essence.
You might hate their actions but with the teaching and
eventually making humanity realize that they have to become their
Essence and let their Essence come through, not ego and ego
cravings, we will create humans who are respectable, they are Godly,
they manifest higher qualities in human existence, instead of
egoistical pursuance, separation, destructive tendencies, greed, and
all the vices that have created an earth that is heading toward
self-destruction, or a least great tribulation that is coming to
weekly conversation is for us to come together and discuss the
teachings that have come through the Mission of Maitreya,
realizing that this is the Revelation.
the Essence of God’s Spirit.
It has purified all religions, taken all the dogmas out of
them, and brought humanity a wonderful way to create an environment
that they can come together, support one another, meditate, dance,
chant, be the Essence that they have been created to be, and
progress in a greater degree to achieve the goal of their lives and
that is to be(come) Divine.
be(come) Divine means to follow the Eternal Divine Path.
Whoever follows the Eternal Divine Path to this
Essence will have no choice but to become Divine, to become an
Elect, to become a chosen person of God.
These are the
that the whole creation of the universe makes it worthwhile, and God
created the whole creation for that purpose so man can go through
the Eternal Divine Path and return to God as Divines.
That is why we are called the Divines; we are the people who
follow the Eternal Divine Path.
come here and you understand and see the teachings and the depth and
Essence of them, then you reach out as an outreach to teach the
teachings to communities, to your friends, to your family, to your
acquaintances, to anyone who might listen, and let them know that
they can also become a Divine, an Essence of God, manifest their
higher qualities, come together with you and others like-minded, and
create an environment that less and less you will be dependent upon
the external world and become self-sufficient communities that can
help one another in this great progress toward that Divinity.
the Communities of Light and creation of Communities of
Light, is the most important part of this
Actually all the questions have been answered.
All the ways have been given.
Everything has been explained in this
Mission how they should be.
So the only thing really left is for us to put our effort and
our energy in manifesting it.
It is not
a Revelation of, “I take you there,” but it is a Revelation of, “I
show you the way, and you walk it.”
The more you walk the Eternal Divine Path, the more
you listen to the Satsangs and the answers to the questions, the
more Divine you will become.
So it is
really given for you to understand it and go with what God has
created and revealed. Therefore the way to progress in this
is to follow the Eternal Divine Path.
It is not expecting someone else to do it for you, or take
you to God or give you an experience, which you might have, which is
OK. But it really means
to reach out, to spread this Message in every corner of the earth
and wherever you are, and follow the Eternal Divine Path,
therefore you will become Divine.
to Divinity is the Path that has been revealed to humanity for the
last 12,000 years, one step at a time.
God has revealed many religions.
He promised Abraham that He would send a Prophet from one of
His sons, the first son, Ishmael.
He promised him that there was going to be another Prophet or
Messiah from His other son, Isaac.
clearly shows in Bible that when He changed the name from
Abram to Abraham there were new promises and Revelations to Abraham.
Therefore at least we know two more Prophets should have come
from the lineages of Abram and Abraham.
foretold the Children of Israel, “When the Shiloh comes, the kingdom
will be taken away from them [Judah]
and given to another nation.”
Prophets and gave them the vision of the end time, and in those
visions He showed them what is exactly going to happen at the end
time. But at the same
time He sealed that vision and told them, “Do not reveal it to
humanity because it is going to be a mystery.”
The Revelation He clearly reveals that when the Seventh
Angel, or the Seventh Revelation, when the Book with the Seven Seals
is opened, when the Seven Seals are revealed, the Mystery of God is
has been accomplished. The Seven Seals are revealed.
The Book with the Seven Seals is opened.
The Mystery of God has been explained to man.
Now we are at that point of God’s Plan and Revelation, and He
says, “No one knows the truth until the Seventh Angel comes.”
can clearly see that all the churches, all the mosques, all the
temples, all the synagogues, and all the people who are preaching
different religions or ideas, do not know the whole truth.
Therefore we can go to any other room in Pal Talk even,
listen to them, and realize they have only a part of the Plan, but
they do not have the whole Vision, the whole picture.
people who have the whole picture are those who are familiar with
the Holiest Of The Holies (THOTH), The Last Testament.
When you understand that Book, when you see God clearly
promised many promises through history to man, when you see clearly
God hid the vision at the end time, then you can see, “Yes, it makes
sense. God said no one
knows the truth, the vision of the end time, until the Seventh
Revelation comes.” No
other Prophet or Revealer came who opened the Seven Seals and
explained the other religions the way we have done it in this
humanity has to see this very clearly and understand this in the
deepest level. First,
God truly exists. If you
realize that He promised all these promises and then He fulfilled
them, you have no choice at least intellectually but to say, “Yes,
that makes sense. He
said He was going to do that, and He has done it.”
dogmas, any philosophy, any doctrine that does not support these
Revelations, which are based on history, the Word of God, His Work
for the last 12,000 years, the things He said and He did, any
philosophy or teaching is not based on this truth, the Word of God,
and these Scriptures, is not correct.
It is not true.
we have now a very clear understanding of God’s Plan and His Word,
Promises, and Revelation, so we can look at any religion and say,
“Well, this part of the Plan or the doctrine is not correct.”
So we can correctly guide ourselves to the bosom of the
Father, or God, and see clearly that we have the Ultimate Truth.
Those who still believe that anti-Christ is a person, comes
here, sees, and posts such banners in our room, and they think they
have done a great job we have to say, “Father, forgive them.
They know not what they do.”
absolutely are doing the same thing that Jews did to Christ, Arabs
did to Prophet Muhammed, and Persians did to Bab.
They were thinking they were doing the Will of God, and
because they believed in their religion, tradition, and people
before them, therefore they thought they were doing God’s Will.
are doing God’s Will, you are no coward.
You will come and stay here, state your case, and we will
discuss together to see who is the truthful one.
Whoever is the truthful one, we can look at the Revelation of
God and the Word of God, and eventually come to the conclusion,
“What is the truth?” If
you have the truth, then we will accept that as God’s Word.
If we have the truth, you have to eventually accept that,
“Yes, what we say makes sense.
It is based on God’s Revelations.
It is based on the Words that have come from those who have
revealed the Word of God to man.
Therefore we have more truth than your dogmas, and you need
to give up your dogmas and become a part of God’s Revelation.”
love their traditions, their dogmas, and their religions.
They are attached to their
family, parents, spouse, their work, and a lot of other things that
keep them from completely releasing themselves to the truth.
release you to the truth, you really have to be mature, independent,
and not attached to anything that keeps you from going to God.
Of course that is very hard for a lot of people to
understand, that God demands absolute dedication and oneness with
Him, not because He needs it, but because that is the only way out.
as we are attached to the things in the external world, no matter
what they are, how good they look, and how we think they should be,
the only way is to understand the way to go to God and that is
maturity means no attachment to anything in this external world.
The only attachment you should have is to the truth and the
Word of God. That means
no attachment to anything in this external world, no matter how
politically you seem to be incorrect, or how your action or your
belief might not be supported with the people who have their own
ideas what their life should be.
should respect your parents but you should go to God.
You should love your spouse, but you have to go to your
teacher. You should
respect your teacher, but he should take you to God.
respect your parents if they are respectable and they are supportive
in your way to God. Otherwise go around them.
Still help them, but your goal is to be(come) Divine.
Your goal is to reach God.
Your goal is to overcome anything in your way to God.
why it is so hard to go to God.
There are so many obstacles for every person to really
overcome, and they truly believe that they have overcome It.
They say, “We love God with all our hearts,” but then you go
and dig deeply into their psychology and you see, “No, they still
are attached to a lot of things that they do not even consider to be
attachments.” But they
are, no matter what they are.
is here. The Elects
have been working on themselves for the last 12,000 years, and these
Words make a lot of sense to them.
They will take them and give them to humanity.
should also make sense to them.
If we can create an environment and communities that the
children are taught from the very beginning that the goal of their
life is to follow the Eternal Divine Path and go to God, if
we have many people in the community who teach these truths and
wonderful realizations to them, when the spiritual teacher knows
that they have to connect people to God instead of to themselves,
when parents know that they have to guide their children to a great
spiritual teacher that He will take them to God, if the spouse
understands that the goal of both of them are to connect to God
together and respect their parents, find a spiritual teacher
together, and that spiritual teacher takes them to God, we will have
the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth.
four beings are the most important beings in our lives.
Even our children are not ours.
We are the keeper of their Souls for a while to guide them,
to nourish them, to nurture them, and when they are ready to fly
away from the nest, let them go.
Of course, if they came back to us, respected us and helped
us, that is great. We
are one. We can help
them in a greater degree to go to God.
But if they flew and became independent, and never came back,
still we love them but we leave them alone.
is a complete system based on the understanding of the goal of the
life: How to become
Divine. The whole
society, the whole human life, should be based on that goal, because
the whole universe has been created for that goal.
Everyone should be(come) Divine, to become One with God.
fastest way is the Eternal Divine Path.
Of course, the Eternal Divine Path includes all
religions of the world, and all religions of the world are unified
and therefore we no longer look at Moslems as from the devil, as
Hindus from the unclean spirits, or whatever concepts or dogmas we
have, which separate man from man and any part of the universe from
any other part of the universe.
we separate anything from anything?
If God is everything and we cannot separate anything from
anything, such a God is not going to send dividing religions to
humanity and some of those religions are going to be better than the
other ones. He is
Everything. He is the
unifying force in the universe.
How can He send religions that contradict one another?
our Revelation is based on that Spirit, in that unification, in that
unity and uniting Spirit of God.
He cannot send many Revelations that separate man from man.
The most logical explanation is, each of them have a message
for humanity. Each of
them has a part of the truth.
of them has a part of the truth, then what is the whole truth?
God says, “You will not know it.
You will not know it until the Seventh Revelation that I will
send to man. I will
send that Revelation with the clear signs that you will not make any
mistake and take another person as the Revealer of the Seventh
Revelation. I will send
prophecies. I will tell
you who will bring that last Revelation to you.”
It is not
going to be just any person walks in and says, “Yeah, I am the
Seventh Revealer and the Prophet, but I have not fulfilled any
“No.” If anyone says
that they are the Seventh Angel or the Prophet of God, the first
question is, “What prophecies have you fulfilled?
Has it been told that you would come?”
That is the first question you have to ask any Prophet or
spiritual teacher, have you fulfilled the prophecies?
When did God tell us you would come?
cuts 99.99% of the teachers on earth and those who claim that they
have received Revelation from God.
God does not reveal major Revelations to anyone.
He prophesies for a long time, and He clearly says that when
such a person comes, what kind of prophecies they will fulfill.
have fulfilled those prophecies, then you ask them about their
genealogy. Are they
really the Lion of the Tribe of Judah?
Can they truly come and bring a Revelation from God?
On December 21st of 2012, the Mayan Calendar will
come to an end. According to the Scriptures it will mark the end of this current
lifetime, and the beginning of the new one, and it symbolizes the
Mayan tree of life. Another thing that points to this state is the time line zero alga
Is there any question in that?
If you have a question, go ahead and raise your hand again.
But apparently you seem to be preaching what you believe.
Do you have any question?
If you have a question, raise your hand.
Otherwise it does not make sense going on and on and
explaining your ideas and opinions here instead of listening and
understanding what the teaching is in this room.
If you have a question, raise your hand.
If you want to discuss the
Mission, we would be more than glad to
talk to you. Otherwise,
the way you were talking, it did not seem to be about this
How do you know when the time is?
The future belongs to God, not to anyone else.
No one can predict the future but God can.
His future is based on many other aspects.
So you are un-red-dotted.
If you want to grab the microphone, raise your hand, and I
will let you talk. But
please be on topic. We
do not believe anyone can predict the future unless it is based on
the Scriptures. Even
based on the Scriptures, there is no specific date that has been
given. You cannot
exactly say what date it will be.
Many people in the past predicted that
something was going to happen on a special date, and it did not
happen. In 1800 a lot
of people thought that was the end time, they sold everything they
had, and they went and waited for Christ to come from the sky, and
it did not happen.
Many times the human has done that.
So if you have a question about the
or if you want to talk about this Revelation, we are more than open
to your participation. But the very beginning of your sentence that you predicted such and
such a thing is going to happen in such and such a time, is
absolutely not based on the Scriptures and the Word of God.
Anything that is not the Word of God is not
accepted here in this
So we can see that still people try to add to God’s Ways.
OK Contractor, go ahead and take the
microphone. But please
be on topic and express your point instead of giving your opinion.
Maitreya, in some of your recent conferences you argue
that the Seventh Seal has been broken.
And you published THOTH, which you describe as
being the only Scripture that reveals the Seven Seals and their
meanings. What does
this ultimately mean to humanity if you are indeed the real Maitreya?
The ultimate result of our Revelation is to bring the
Heaven On Earth.
It has been prophesied and foretold that God’s Kingdom will
come on earth and His Will, will be on earth as it is in Heaven.
Some people say the Kingdom is within you and
you do not need to bring the
Heaven On Earth.
But in Daniel it clearly shows that God talks about
the statue that will represent the kings and kingdoms on earth.
When eventually a small stone comes, hits that statue, and
that statue will be destroyed, that little stone will cover the
whole earth and replace all those earthly kingdoms with God’s
Therefore we can see clearly that God desires
to see His Kingdom come to earth.
Bringing the Kingdom On Earth is based on the Communities
of Light, the Communities of Light are based on the Eternal Divine Path, and the
Eternal Divine Path shows
all the religions of the world are unified and each have a part of
So the whole Plan of God has been given through
this Mission, and the Seven Seals are opened and explained.
The ultimate effect for humanity is to bring peace and the
God on earth, and accelerate their
spiritual progress toward God thousands-fold, and eventually make
this earth God’s, instead of ego’s.
So that is the goal of this Mission, and
that is what we will accomplish and will come.
God has said in the past that He will do things and He has
done them. He said His
Kingdom will come, and it will.
Therefore that is our salvation, that is our
strength, that is what we have to hang onto, and see the Vision, do
our best, go ahead with what we understand and reveal through God,
or through this Mission to us, and work toward that
accomplishment without being attached to the result or becoming
discouraged because it might be a slow process.
But eventually it will be accelerated, and this
will manifest because it makes sense, it is the truth, it is based
on God’s Word, and therefore we will succeed because our
understanding is based on God’s Word.
God said He will bring His Kingdom on earth.
That is why this Revelation has come to
humanity, to explain that God has been sending these Revelations to
man, that each of these Revelations has a specific message, that
when you put all of them together a Path will be revealed to you.
There is no dogma in it, there are not many specific things
you have to do to follow this Path.
If you follow this Path you will see the
result. You will create
the Communities of Light.
You will teach people that the goal of their life is to
become Divine. By
becoming Divine they have no choice but to go toward the creation of
the Communities of Light, and the Communities of Light
are the base of the
Heaven On Earth.
It is very precise and a Path that is given
very clearly how to bring God’s Kingdom on earth.
So that is the reason, in answer to your question.
No other Prophet, Revelation, or Revealer has
ever brought such a precise and clearly stated Revelation from God,
based on the Word of God, based on the Scriptures, unifies all
religions of the world, shows the way to bring the Kingdom Of Heaven
On Earth, and is the shortest Path to God.
No one has been able to succeed.
That is why when the Book with the Seven Seals
was opened, the whole universe rejoiced!
That is the only time in the Bible and in the
Scriptures when the whole universe rejoices because the Seven Seals
are opened and the Book with the Seven Seals was revealed.
That is how important this Revelation is, and it has been
sent to humanity.
This is the Call to all of you to come and see.
You have to overcome your own understandings, your own
desires, your own will, your own religions, your own dogmas, and see
how clearly God makes it for those who have the slightest Spirit of
God in them that this is the most precise, clearest Vision, the most
peaceful and educational way to bring the Kingdom Of Heaven On
Of course you do not have to.
There is no push here.
There is no desire here to snatch you to this
and keep you here. No.
If you are an Elect, if God has already chosen you, or if you
have been working on yourself for the last 12,000 years, no one has
to snatch you; you snatch yourself.
No one has to convince you.
You convince yourself.
That is what all the people in the
should do, as many have already done.
I just presented them the truth.
They saw the Vision.
They convinced themselves.
Then of course, as I said in the beginning of the lecture:
That is all that is left, to see the Vision, come together,
and let us do this
As we do this
together we will progress in a greater degree.
That is how I make you progress, by bringing you or insisting
that you should become engaged with the
You should become engaged with the Communities of Light.
You should follow the Eternal Divine Path.
I cannot help you if you do not follow the
Eternal Divine Path.
You will not progress.
You can say, “OK, Maitreya gave me this Vision.
I saw the Vision.”
But seeing the Vision is just the beginning.
Being the Vision is what makes you to progress in a greater
degree. Being the
Vision means to become involved, to become engaged, to reach out, to
meditate, to awaken your spiritual forces, to understand yourself,
to see your weaknesses, to overcome them, and to become a productive
member of the society and the Mission.
Then reach out to create the Communities of Light in
the place you are.
We even do not tell you to come here to join us where we are.
We tell you, you can start wherever you are.
Of course if you want to come here, and you
have the ability to come here, we sure need a lot of people to come,
join us here, and do a lot of things that need to be done.
We need computer people, we need lawyers.
We need doctors.
We need dentists.
need anyone that has any ability; we can surely use it in the
if they come here with a pure heart and in the spirit of service,
with no attachment to the result.
Of course that is another option.
There are many options in the
You can just love the
Mission with all your heart and do
nothing. Of course you
do not progress much. You just saw the Vision and you loved it, and you stay with it.
one state, all the way to the state that you absolutely dedicate
your life to the
Mission and the Vision, and either
where you are, or come here and become a member of the community and
use your talents and abilities to make this community progress in as
many levels that it could.
As we have more people to see this Vision
clearly and become it, and see how God indeed exists and this is
really the most important news anyone could give to humanity, we
will be accepted more and the Kingdom will come.
All the news you see on television and radio, or hear in the
radio, are outdated already.
This is the most updated news for humanity.
That is where we are going.
We are going toward the creation of the Communities of
Light and bringing the
Heaven On Earth.
Because God said that is what is going to
happen. He said before
what He was going to do, He accomplished them, and this is going to
happen. This is the
news. No matter what
other people, or other organizations, or governments do, all of them
are in vain because they are not based on the Will of God.
This is based on the Will of God.
If someone proves to me that this is not, I am
the first person who will drop it because I want to be on the
winning team. I want to
be with God, which clearly the Scriptures state that He will win.
He will bring His Kingdom on earth.
If that is the truth, why do I want to be with
anyone else, or anywhere else, when I know that this is the
Revelation of the Seven Seals, the Communities of Light based
on the Revelation that came to all the religions of the world, the
base of the Kingdom is the Communities of Light, and the Communities of Light are based on the
Eternal Divine Path?
The Eternal Divine Path is the awakening
of your spiritual forces, creation of the Communities of Light,
sacrifice, surrendering and submission to the Will of God for us,
and becoming a universalist.
Therefore we become an Elect.
We become a completely free person.
If you are still attached to your family, if
you are still attached to your society, if you are still attached to
your teaching, religion, dogma, no matter what on earth, you will
not be able to follow the Eternal Divine Path completely.
You will not be able to create a community, which will teach
children their goal is to be(come) Divine, that you have to find a
teacher who connects you to God, that the parents should encourage
their children to become Godly instead of giving them dogmas of
their own religions and cultures.
You have to free yourself, absolutely.
This is the Path of the brave.
And Elects are brave.
Elects are not immature but mature and independent people who
have overcome any bondage, desire, or attachment to this external
world. Therefore they
can free themselves completely from anything in their way to become
Anything in their way has to go.
You have to become the children of God and be on with the
work of the Father. That is all there has to be, you and your life should be based on
doing His Will and the Work of God, not on what your parents want,
or what your family wants, or what your spouse wants, or what your
community wants, or what you nation wants, but what God wants.
If you absolutely are dedicated to that Will
then you are a mature, independent, Elect, not a dependent and
attached Elect. If you
are attached then you are not an Elect because you are still
attached to other things in your life.
So this is the Call to maturity.
This is the Call for humans to go beyond human emotions and
concepts, cultural concepts, and all those things.
They become a free Soul, belonging to God.
If we can create 144,000 of such independent,
mature, one-pointed people who work ceaselessly to create Communities of Light, with no political maneuvering,
attachments, desire to dominate, and become someone that they are
not but they desire to be, then we can create an environment that is
pure, that is based on the ability of each person, and bring Communities of Light that eventually the Hierarchy will emerge
from. They will create
Heaven On Earth.
So the whole idea of this
is to purify humanity one by one, call on Elects to become mature
and purified, create the Communities of Light based on the Eternal Divine Path, teach our children to follow the
Divine Path, and become mature themselves.
The parents would not create the web of the emotional bondage that a
lot of parents make around their children, but free them to God.
Therefore we can have an environment that is based on God’s
Word and God’s Revelations, based on the Spirit, the Essence of man.
If we can create more and more of these
communities, other people will also see the beauty of our teachings.
They will also see the Essence of God in one another.
They will start respecting each another, instead of
separating each other and bringing destruction to the earth, but
bringing the unity that humans need so badly.
The time is ripe.
All the Seven Revelations have come to earth.
All those who should join or will be in the Kingdom have been
Why do we have so many people or population on
earth at this time? It
is because everyone who has been incarnated for the last 12,000
years has been returned to us, and now we can preach these Words to
them. That is why it is
so important that each person on earth hears this Revelation at
That is why God created the Internet.
The Word of God has been preached every day in these rooms,
and there are wonderful people here that they are reaching to
humanity every day and explaining this teaching to man, to humanity,
to those who come to this room, and they direct them to go to our
website and read about this Revelation.
They are doing a wonderful job, because each of those people
they send to those pages in the website, and each of them who read,
or see at least The Greatest Sign, one is checked, one is
done. God checked them
out. We have only five
billion, nine hundred and ninety-nine more to go [laughing].
The moment they go there, they see
Greatest Sign, the moment they go there and they read about the
Eternal Divine Path, we are done with them. We have given
them our Message, our Revelation.
Now it is up to you -- it is up to them.
It is up to every person, every individual.
The more we reach humanity, the more people
hear it, the more our work is done.
Those who are the Elects can see our teachings absolutely
clearly, and they will come, join, and help the
Mission to spread
Go ahead, Cyber Spirit.
It is an
honor for me to be able to hear you and to meet you Sir.
I would like to ask a question about the origin of the
ignorance and why mankind has put himself into ego format.
Something came to my mind that I believe could be a
possibility to share and see if you could tell me if I am on the
right track here.
When we are in infinity, One with God, in infinite Consciousness, we
already have everything in that level because we are infinite, we
have everything. But
the reason for this relative reality and the formation of the ego
was the purpose so that we could come up with a new creation that we
did not have from the Eternal point of view, and the only way that
creation could come forward would be for ignorance?
And once the ego is dissolved or dropped, we can keep this
new creation that we formed, and yet not suffer from all the
disadvantages. We have
all the beautiful parts of it.
shed some light on that, or, I would love to hear what you have to
say. I will release the
microphone. Thank you.
No, your understanding is incorrect, Cyber Spirit, I am sorry
to say. I am sure you
did not want to hear that.
If you go to our website and start reading our teachings, you
will find that your question has clearly been answered.
It is not
that we create a creation.
It is to return to the original state that the universe was
in. In the beginning
everything was in an equilibrium state and there was no creation, or
tension, or release, or ego in the universe.
It was just like, kind of being in a sleep.
When you are asleep there is no ego, there is no desire,
there is no manifestation, unless you have a dream.
Of course the dream itself is a creation in consciousness.
reason that equilibrium state was disturbed, and this disturbance
brought the separation between that unified state and the first
feeling was, “I know.”
to let me finish answering your one question before you can ask
another one. So let’s
wait until this is done.
first feeling, based on the influence of the first force in the
universe, which we call satva guna, unconsciousness, was, “I know.”
For the first time the feeling of “I knowness.”
Before that everything was, just was.
Knowingness was just a part of being.
It is not something that the universe would say, “I know.”
It just knew without any separation of “I know;” it was a
second influence of the raja guna, which is energy in the universe,
was, “I do.” The third
feeling based on the tama guna, or the crudifying force, was, “I
have done,” or memory.
the ether, which is in the universe and that is why they use ether,
solidified ether, as chips in the computers, and they can hold
memory because that is where the memory of the universe is, the
ethereal level. That is
where the Akashic Records are and all the truth is there.
these three influences of, “I know,” “I do,” and “I have done”
(memory), the ego evolved and separated itself from the unity of the
Essence or what was in the beginning, before the creation.
That was when the ego evolved and that is why in the
Scriptures it has been said, “There was darkness.”
ego evolved, of course, the separation started between each unit
consciousness, each spark of God, and that separation brought the
feeling of not being one. Therefore
each unit consciousness created different paths, ways, thinking,
karma, and that created man separate from man.
happens to cultures because cultures are different, they think
differently, their religions, their dogmas, their explanations
because that unity is not realized and recognized.
That is when the ego and separation has come.
It is not
that we come here and create our own universe.
Actually if you do that, you are separating yourself again
from other people because the universe you create is going to be
different than the universe other egos will create, and they are not
going to be one.
whole idea is to return to that equilibrium state of the universe
that it was in and not to create anything but know what is the Will
of God, what is the Will of the Essence, and follow that Will to
return to the equilibrium.
If we create our own universe we are creating our own will.
That is ego and separation, and not unity and oneness.
therefore if you really want to know where ego comes from, that is
where ego came from. If
you have another question, now you can raise your hand.
That is my answer to your question.
Go ahead Cyber.
Thank you very much.
You said, you mentioned, there was for some reason, if I can
quote you, please tell me if the reason why ego became a person,
that is my understanding, it is not a reality, just within the
relative reality. But
was that a deliberate decision that we took, a deliberate, or in
other words we were already able to look into the future and we knew
what we were getting into and there was a deliberate reason for the
ignorance, or do you think it was, everything was accidental, it
happened by random? Thank you.
Yes, very good question Cyber.
OK knowingness, as I said, was created after that equilibrium
was disturbed. Therefore to know what the original state was, and what disturbed
that equilibrium and oneness, you should be able to think, you have
to have intellect, and you should have an analytical mind.
was no mind. There was
no, “I knowness” when equilibrium was disturbed.
That is why it is so hard to explain what that first cause of
disturbance was, because there was no mind, or there was no “I” that
observed it, analyzed it, and said, “Oh, that was the cause.”
people say, “A part of God desired, and that desire disturbed the
equilibrium and therefore it went out of balance.”
There are many explanations as to what that first cause was.
But these are all just speculation.
there was some mind, unless there was some ego, which knew, did, and
had a memory to observe what that disturbance or cause was, whatever
we say or believe is just speculation.
The only thing we can be sure is there was something, there
was some cause. Unless
we meditate very hard to go beyond even that point of cause, and are
able to see what that cause was, even then we do not have any mind
again to know what it was.
realize that before that cause, there was no mind, there was no
observation, there was no knowness or do-ness or memory, we realize
that it is not explainable as the saying, “What is the sound of one
hand clapping?” It is
something that you can speculate about, you can think about, and you
can really try to understand what it is, but it is impossible to say
what is the sound of one hand clapping.
The answer is beyond the mind then.
The answer is beyond mind.
Because it is beyond mind, we never can be sure any
speculation is correct.
Maitreya, on your
website you symbolize all the world religions coming together as
one. Some people wonder
how this can be possible when most of the world’s conflicts are
based on religions, such as in
Jerusalem with the Muslims and the Jews.
How will this fighting come to an end?
Very good question, Contacter.
The reason they are fighting is because each of them thinks
they have a greater Revelation or truth.
Jews think they are the chosen people and therefore they have
the right on
They feel originally it was theirs because at the time of
Moses they came and took over the place, God gave it to them, and
therefore it is theirs.
believe they have the last word.
Prophet Muhammad and the Moslems eventually came and took
over, and they pushed the Jews out of
Therefore it is God-given right to them because they have the
last word, they conquered the place, and it is theirs.
of the matter is what God clearly has revealed in this Revelation.
If they come and understand our teachings, they will see that
there is a way out, and the way out is the Word of God.
promised Abraham, whose son was Isaac, that there was going to be a
land given to them, which was
Moses came and took over.
But He said, “That is going to be until the
Shiloh or the Messiah comes.”
if that is the truth, then the Messiah, Christ, Esa, or what most
people call Jesus came, and that was finished and done with.
Jews have to recognize and realize the Word of God.
Moslems have to recognize and realize that Mohammad was not the last
Prophet. He was the
person who finished the Fourth Seal.
Therefore all of them are a part of God’s Revelation, and no
one knows the truth of all these Revelations until the Seventh Angel
comes which is this Revelation.
explains to each and all of them where they fall.
If that is true, the only thing left is, how they be(come)
Divine, work together, create the Communities of Light
wherever they are, create an environment that all of them can live
in peace and unity, and in a greater degree, progress toward
becoming Godly or Divine.
the Path of Peace is given to everyone.
The only thing left is for them to recognize and realize that
what we say is the Word of God; it is the last Revelation.
to accept this one. Whatever they knew, they believed, is explained and done with.
If they realize and recognize them, then they do not look at
each other as Jews, or Hindus, or Buddhists, or Christians, and this
and that, but as the Essence of God.
There is only One God for all of them.
no God for Jews separate from Christians, separate from Moslems,
separate from Hindus or Buddhists.
That is the beauty of this Revelation.
It puts all of them together.
them, “Look, there is only one God, and He sent all of these
Revelations. The only
way out is to recognize all of them, realize all of them, see what
God was doing, create Communities of Light and understand the
Eternal Divine Path, follow it, live together, and create an
environment that everyone can go to God as fast as possible.”
problem on earth is that each people have a part of this, and they
think they have the whole thing.
So that is how you unify and bring peace to the
Middle East and everywhere on earth.
The other day I was listening to an interview from a
physicist mentioning (and you probably brought this up sometime in
the past) about quantum physics.
It sent some chills up my spine because there they said that
within ten years they will be able to prove the existence of another
multiple universe, an inner level of consciousness.
The reason why that really attracted me is because lately
your Mission has been doing a lot of intensive work here and
I have this notion that if there is a major breakthrough in physics
and science where they can actually prove the existence of something
beyond the physical world, all these unbelievers, skeptics, atheists
and what have you, and people that do not seek for spiritual things
directly, will suddenly have to start turning their heads and
looking within, and will no longer go around with a belief system or
an opposing system, on actual scientific facts.
one of the reasons why you have lately taken this time of our era in
intensifying this movement, because you know or you believe that
there is a breakthrough coming pretty soon and it will all come
together where people start to change their attitudes?
The mass of consciousness of the acceptance in something as a
reality rather than as a belief system will make everyone turn
toward spiritual concepts
will grow tremendously. That will help promote the
coming On Earth within the near future.
When the Revelation of God comes, when the Revealer comes,
there is a great leap of evolutionary progress in human
consciousness. If you
study our teachings, you will clearly see that we are talking about
science based on Spirit.
These scientific facts and discoveries will be coming to
humanity very fast. If
you know about the quantum theory and there is the theory of
gravity, they have to eventually unify them together and realize
there is more. It is
called the string theory.
I do not know if you are familiar with it.
Yes. That will change man's thinking and will jolt
humanity. If science
and religion cannot agree then both (theories) are flawed.
Yes, very close, exactly.
In that string theory eventually they realized there are many
strings in the universe, there is not just one of them.
They call that the “M” theory.
“M” of course is the end of the
OM and M started the whole creation of the universe as the
original sound in the universe.
As you realize more and more, people will turn into their own
Souls and Spirits, and they will realize that their Essence and God
their Essence and God are one but everyone’s Essence and God are
one. Those scientists
will start recognizing and realizing the universe in a much deeper
level. They will see
that there are other universes also, as they have seen it.
Actually we are living in many states of consciousness and
possibilities at the same time, and more and more they can
understand this deeper level of the universe as they have been
coming closer and closer.
It was mentioned in about 10 years time.
in probably around ten to fifteen years they will come to
discoveries, and with traveling in space, it is going to be in even
a greater degree improved and accelerated.
That will bring a greater degree of relief on earth.
Humanity will have infinite resources to tap into.
That also will accelerate the peace and unity of humans on
So you are absolutely correct.
This is the
Mission that not
only unifies all the religions but also encourages the science and
unifies that with the Spirit of God, and says that whatever
scientists discover is what God has already created.
There is no separation between science and God.
Your movement is more intensified lately.
That is why.
are asking why our outreach is intensified. Well, if you
read the Scripture, it says that He will come as a thief
of the night.
For the last twenty-two to twenty-three years we have
been like a thief of the night. We have been reaching
out to humanity and calling people to come and realize
this teaching, and few have.
Cyber Spirit1: My God we all have work
to do all.
Maitreya: [laughter] Yes. Absolutely,
that is why I am calling the Elects here to come
together. We have a lot of work to do. We have to reach
and use these wonderful communication tools that God has
given us so we can preach and reach to all parts of the
earth, and make everyone realize that indeed we are on
the brink of a great evolutionary leap.
Go ahead Cyber.
Please tell me if I am asking too many questions because
there are many people in here.
I do not see any hands up in the air.
I will be glad to pass the microphone to someone else.
If it is OK, to my understanding, that whatever is being
perceived by the ego, for example, if you take things like disease,
the lack of limitation, these are not a power in themselves, they
are not God-supported, they are not God-sustained.
These are manifestations that only become because of the
falseness of the ego’s perception.
Lately I have been doing some work there by making people aware that
the Father and I are one, that God is within us, that is the only
true power, and our true nature is Spirit.
In the thinking process and thinking about less and less as
one as being man or ego or standing on the other side of the fence,
even in the thinking process, besides the meditating and spiritual
process, but I for one have an understanding that the disease in
itself, or any manifestation of evil that comes upon the world, does
not have a power in itself.
It is the ignorance of the ego mind and acceptance of the ego
mind in the belief that it has a power that allows it to manifest.
If we realize that we are a Spirit, we are the true power and within
us is God, that alone can override much of the influence and these
disharmonies in the world, and we can actually override the illusion
or the manifestation of evil on us because of our recognition of the
oneness with God, which is the true power.
Is this good enough to be accepting this as an intellectual or
mental understanding to a point accompanied by spiritual mediation,
or does all the work have to be done within meditation, or the fact
that one can mentally deny that there is power in evil is also good
steps? Thank you.
What you say, Cyber, as usual, has some truth in it and is
true, but there is more into it than just that one recognition or
Yes indeed, the Spirit is within us and we have the ability to heal
ourselves. All the
disease and problems, not all but most all, are spiritually related.
Therefore if we spiritually progress, realize, recognize, and
let God come through, and we absolutely rid ourselves of the ego,
many of the diseases will vanish, and we are free to be healthy
people with a good diet and environment.
But also diet and environment, for example if you work and do not
rest for a long time, no matter how spiritual you are, you are going
to catch a cold. The
very reason for catching a cold is to slow you down.
Your body is telling you to rest and take it easy.
You are doing too much.
It has nothing to do with spiritual progress.
If you are in Pure Consciousness and you are in the body, you are
not stopping, and you are working, working, and working, the body
will eventually say, “No, stop, and take it easy for a while.”
So we can see here it has nothing to do really with the
If you have a karmic problem that you have to burn through some
spiritual purification or disease, that is another way.
Sometimes people who are in higher consciousness pick up
other people’s karma and they become sick without they themselves
needing that to happen to them.
But of course you are absolutely correct.
That is why we do not encourage people to heal one another
because as Christ said, “When the unclean spirit leaves a person,
it goes and finds seven more
vicious than itself and returns, and the state of the man becomes
worse than before.” Because the person has not learned how to heal him or herself,
therefore they do not have the ability to block the dark forces to
enter them. So they
become diseased and even the people we have met, the people who have
been healed at the time of Christ come back in this lifetime and
they have the same disease that they had at the time of Christ.
Although He healed them at that time, they did not learn to
heal themselves in this lifetime, and that is what they have to
learn to do, to heal themselves.
When we learn how to heal ourselves, then Christ’s teaching becomes
more important to us than His healing and therefore we concentrate
on His message instead of concentrating on what He healed and who He
So that is the goal for every individual to learn to heal
themselves, to realize that all the diseases are based on spiritual
reasons, and we can heal ourselves by understanding and creating a
Another disease comes from a bad environment.
You pick up dark or unclean energies from other people around
you. If we can create
the Communities of Light and create an environment that
everyone is basing their lives on God and Spirit, we will have less
and less disease.
So your understanding again is truth but there is more into it.
If you go and study our teachings, you will understand in a
Go ahead Cyber.
not worry about if you are asking too many questions because if
anyone wants to ask questions, of course they can raise their hand.
There is no other hand up, so you can go ahead and take the
OK thanks again for such a detailed answer.
My true nature is, I am Spirit, I am one with God.
I am not ego.
fact I even refuse to accept that I am an ego and I allow God to
work through me. This
is my true nature.
Now in itself, and sometimes I am thankful for this understanding,
that knows that he is one with God, knows that he is Spirit.
When it comes to karma, if there is any karma that is
pending, to a point is one able to override whatever, let us put it
this way, negative karma that is due to be collected because of his
understanding that the truth has come upon his consciousness and if
so God wants a vessel to work through and not a vessel that is tied
to karma to a point? So
when the surrender, submission is sincere and honest and the
understanding of the truth is that, will this alone resolve whatever
negative karma one has to bring about?
Because after all the negative karma comes unto ego because
the Soul and the Spirit are completely separate from that, and I
want to renounce that I am ego, even in my thought process.
Or does one have the collective karma regardless, whatever
the understanding or the submission to God is?
It is very admirable that you refuse to accept that you are
ego. But the moment
that you say, “I am not ego,” the presence of that “I” in your
sentence means you still have a separate “I,” and that, of course,
That is why to this point it was very hard for people to become
egoless because they would recognize or realize that they are a part
of God. The Essence of
God is in them. That is
great, that is wonderful you recognize that.
That is the first step to realize that God is everything, and
the Essence of God is not only in you but also it is in everyone
But according to our teachings and this Revelation, the Path to
become egoless has been given without even you recognizing that you
have dissolved your ego in the long run.
That is the Eternal Divine Path.
I do not know if you have been in our website and have studied our
teachings and have seen what the teaching is.
The teaching is, the first step is the meditation and going
deep inside and recognizing that your Essence is God.
That is the first step.
The second step is engaging yourself to create an environment that
also other people can meditate and awaken their spiritual forces.
We call it the Communities of Light.
That is the Old Testament.
The first, awakening of our spiritual forces, are the
Mystical Paths. The
second is the Old Testament, to create Communities of Light.
The third is to sacrifice for the communities.
And the fourth is when the ego absolutely dissolves.
That is when you surrender the result to God.
Or even greater than that, you submit yourself.
You become a channel for God.
You do not do anything.
God is doing it through you.
Therefore there is no ego.
There is no such thing as, “I refuse to accept I am ego,”
because the moment you say, “I refuse,” you are a person that is
refusing the ego, which is still separating itself from other egos
But if God is doing it through you, you are doing nothing.
You do not even exist.
You do not say, “I do not accept ego,” because you are not
there. How can you even
say, “I do not have ego,” when God is there, and you are not?
Therefore with the
Eternal Divine Path, you dissolve ego,
because even trying to not have ego, is having ego.
What about the karma
what is the goal of karma?
The goal of the karma is the action we have done in our
lives, this life or previous lives, and we have accumulated this bad
karma, or good karma, or whatever, and we have not learned our
lessons. The moment we
learn our lessons, the karma just dissolves.
It is not there anymore.
It is not pending.
If it is pending, we are not learning our lessons.
The moment we learn the lessons, there is no karma.
If you become truly submitted to God and you do the Will of God, you
are not doing anything personally and therefore you do not create
karma, and your karma or whatever you have, also through your
meditation, you learn very fast, you overcome it, and there is not
going to be any karma. You are free.
Therefore you can see that with the
Eternal Divine Path, not
only you create the Communities of Light, not only you bring
the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth, not only you progress spiritually,
your ego dissolves, and one day you see God is coming through and
absolutely you become a pure channel for Spirit.
Great Cyber, you have indeed realized a lot, but you have come here
to realize in a greater degree the truth that some of it has already
been revealed to you. That is actually how the Elects are.
The Elects are the people who have recognized and realized a lot
themselves, and when they come here they see clearer and more
precisely and expanded in a greater degree.
Go ahead Cyber.
OK, this I think will be the last question for now, thank you very
much. I think we are
almost into an hour and a half here, so I will make it brief.
Lots of people, when they listen to the message about ego and
the relative realities, etc., and it is being a false pretender, is
it enough, in the ego mind to understand intellectually how obsolete
or false the ego is and deny, or not deny, I still have to speak in
Is it enough in the mind of the ego to do the spiritual work to keep
refusing…? I know this
will be corrected because you just did already.
But I am trying to find a way to word it.
You know, when people go around saying, “I get sick, and I
have a spirit.” This is
a typical one, I made this correction many times during my
spiritual, or during God’s Spiritual work through me, “I am spirit,”
and I keep saying, “You are not spirit, I have a spirit.”
But they say, “My Spirit.”
And I say, “You are standing on the wrong side of the fence.
It is not my Spirit, you are Spirit and you should not talk
as a capital “I.” The
more you think or consider or
know yourself, actually I am going to correct it, the more
you know yourself as Spirit in the intellectual understanding only,
is that a big step for an ego to start to dissolve, or does it
necessarily need to have meditation and submission to God?
Because many people will not take that second step.
They sort of like have the understanding in their mind.
I think you will probably say that first the intellectual
understanding is important, of the falsehood, and then later on they
will embark into spiritual meditation, etc.
But could you shed some light on how much the intellectual, the
intellect, the role of the intellect within the ego plays to start
to dissolve it? Thank
You are correct, Cyber.
Intellect is important.
That is the first step that we intellectually recognize that
God is everything, intellectually realize that since God is
everything, I am part of everything and therefore, I am a part of
God and therefore God is within me and I am god.
The problem with intellect is, because an ego is involved, after a
while the person thinks he or she is only god and no one else is.
That is why sometimes in this room or during PalTalk, someone
comes to this room and says, “I am God.”
It is just like, they are god and no one else is.
That is the limit of intellect.
It is very egoistical and self-centered, and therefore it
does not recognize that unity also is in other people and also God
is everyone else.
If they recognize that, start meditating, and deeply realize, “Yes,
everything is God and God is everything, and therefore I am part of
that Essence and everyone else is also a part of the Essence,” they
will expand their consciousness.
As I explained, of course, the greater understanding is that
God comes through me and I do not exist, and therefore the ego
dissolves by itself.
You ask, “If you do the spiritual work with intellectual
understanding and ego, would that be OK?”
The problem with that is when you work through spiritual
teaching or spiritual work with ego, the third step in the Eternal Divine Path comes in.
That is when you give, and give, and give, and nothing
happens, and you become depressed and unhappy, “Why I am putting so
much effort and it is not happening?”
And that is ego.
That is the problem with the ego.
Or, you become elated if people start progressing and people start
seeing the truth you have, therefore again the ego comes in.
In the next step, again you recognize, you surrender the result to
God and you are not attached to the results and therefore you free
yourself, or you become submissive, which God comes through, and
again you are free. That state is no longer intellectual but is absolute spirit coming
through, and your ego dissolves without even you knowing it.
So learn about the
Eternal Divine Path and follow It, and you
will achieve your spiritual progress without even intellectually
trying to analyze it. But one day you will become a channel for God.
You will recognize God actually exists and you do not, and
then you become a universalist, you expand yourself to the universe
and the whole universe becomes your home, God becomes your Mother
and Father, and you are free from any human pursuance and bondage.
Yes, that is another part of dissolving your ego, offering
everything to God. Someone says, Thank you.
Thank you to what?
Thank you to God within you.
Therefore I am not the doer, all thanks go to God.
I am free.
If you thank me, my ego becomes elated and says, “Yes, I did this.
You thank me.”
So the ego wants to accept the praise when really if you are
submissive and surrendered to God, the praise goes to your Essence,
which is God, which is coming through.
Therefore you are free from any bondage, and you will
progress in a greater degree.
OK Cyber, we will make this the last question.
We are out of time.
It is so inspiring to hear the way you talk.
I learn so much from you.
When one does a painting or plays music, from my understanding, I
would like to have some confirmation, when one does painting or
music, or whatever task there is to do in the world, when I do a
painting for instance, the first thing I do before I put my first
brush stroke is I say, “God Work through me.
This is not my painting.
This is Yours, and I will witness Your work through me, and
when you finish the painting I can enjoy the beauty of the painting,
but I know it was done, You doing it through me, and I was just Your
Is this the correct attitude?
And even if one congratulates you, or you sell it, or
whatever, you never to fall into the temptation of the pride of me
doing the painting. You
just want to submit your work to God.
God is doing all the work through you, and the beautiful part
of it is that you do not think about the reward, you do not think
about collecting the benefit.
All you do is you just witness the beauty of the artwork
itself, God manifesting through yourself.
That is the ultimate love that one can give thy Father.
If you look at the great manifestations of art, they have
been done with the Spirit of God coming through the artist.
Or the greatest sermons that have been given have been the
Spirit of God coming through.
If you let God come through you will do perfect things every time,
if truly 100%, you let God come through.
Therefore your painting becomes an inspiration, a spiritual
upliftment for everyone else who will look at it because your ego
did not do. It is God’s
Spirit that has done it.
Therefore it will give great fruit because God’s Spirit is
Perfection in man only comes through letting God’s Spirit come
through man. If we let
that happen, we will be absolutely submissive to God, and our life
becomes a dance, a joy, and brings unity to everyone.
I hope that answers your question.
I leave all of you to God.
Again go to the website, read our teachings, and know that
during the week you are expected to reach out to every man and woman
you meet, and to all those who will listen.
Let them know that the Revelation of the Seven Seals are
here, the ultimate truth of God has come, and this is the salvation
of man, and let us bring humanity to the brink of the great
evolutionary leap and unity in the universe.
Hopefully see you next week.