MAITREYA, Conversations with
Welcome to the
Mission of Maitreya’s
Conversation Room. We
are here to discuss the new Revelation.
We hope that you all have gone to our website and have
studied our teachings in a greater degree, and you have realized
that indeed God has made it very clear this time that there is no
doubt that this is the Revelation by God for humanity to come
together and become united and unified.
That is the
first step, for each person to prove it to themselves and realize
that indeed God exists and He is in charge.
He has been guiding humanity for the last 12,000 years and
human history for 6,000 years.
It is a lesson for humans to learn that if God leaves them to
themselves, they will create wars and destruction.
If you read human history for the last 6,000 years it clearly
shows that humans, when they reject God as it is shown in the Old
Testament, they fall into the lower nature and they will not
progress toward the goal of the life.
It is just
like, as long as they were with Moses and they followed God’s Words
and Moses, they were OK. The moment Moses went to the mountains and was a little late, they
fell to their lower natures and started doing ungodly things, and
that brings destruction to humanity.
This is the
lesson that man has to learn:
They need God, His Laws, and His Guidance to become united
and purified. Therefore
their history will be full of unity, sharing, bringing the Spirit of
a higher level of consciousness into man, and creating the
on earth, the Kingdom that everyone, every man, woman, and child
will be provided for their physiological and safety needs.
Then they create the communities that everyone can meditate, awaken
their spiritual forces, and are based on the pure hearts, purity of
relationships, and Godly environment so they can create children
that also will be nurtured and beautifully brought up in a way that
they can become good members, productive members, of the Communities of Light.
So this is the
lesson that we have been awakening to, a Revelation has been sent to
us, and it has shown us that indeed the way is the Eternal Divine
Path. It is a Path,
which each religion of the world has revealed one part of it.
Therefore, no religion on earth can claim they have the whole
truth because the truth only will come when this Seventh Revelation
is revealed to humanity.
No man, no person on earth, can understand their
religion, can understand the Revelations of God to this point, until
they understand this Revelation, our teachings, read THOTH,
and understand the Eternal Divine Path.
Then they realize, “Yes, that is where my religion, my
understanding, my culture, falls.”
Then they have no choice but to expand themselves to other
religions and Revelations of God, and realize that none of them has
the truth, none of them has the ultimate realization of God until
they understand our Revelation and our teachings.
The more humanity realizes that, the more humans
we can attract to see this Vision.
They will take it and give it to other people, and eventually
when we create the facilitating body on earth, we will have an
organized way to spread these teachings in a greater degree so we
can awaken humanity to understand:
That has been the Plan of God to this point.
The Plan of God has been to show humanity that
there is the Eternal Divine Path that we have to realize and
follow. Just realizing
it is not enough, but following it also has to come after
realization of the Vision.
Those who realize it, come to it, follow it, and become a
part of it will become the first Elects, the people who have been
called to come together to help the realization of this Vision.
So God has been guiding man to this point, to
this Revelation. Now it
is the end time. It is
the time that humanity has to see that God has been sending all
those Revelations as a part of a greater truth.
They cannot follow their own wills and whims, and whenever
they do, they will fall.
So this is the Vision, and this is the
Revelation that all of us have to learn in a deeper level, and reach
out in a greater degree to spread all over the world.
This room is the Conversation Room of the
That means you can converse with me, and if you have a
question or if you have something that you want to bring to our
attention, we can discuss it together.
Keep the questions in the highest level possible so they are
related to the
Mission and are
based on our teachings.
That is why we recommend everyone to go to our
website first and learn our teachings in a greater degree, and then
Justkidding is asking:
You have said that this world is a relative truth but not a reality.
Can you please expand on that?
It is a relative truth.
Actually it is real but it is not the ultimate truth.
It is not the Essence.
has been created from the Essence.
Therefore since it is not the Essence, it has been put
together by the forces of the universe and that is why these forces
are always trying to return to the Essence that they came from.
That is why
there is decay and destruction.
Nothing in this universe is permanent.
The reason it is not permanent is because it has been created
by forces that have come from the Essence, and the whole universe
marches toward returning back to that Essence.
those who see this external world as the ultimate truth and become
attached to it and they want to be happy by being attached to this
external world as the reality will be disappointed.
That is because this will not give you the satisfaction that
your infinite Spirit longs for.
has come from infinity. Of course infinity is not explainable, just like God is not
explainable. Infinity is
an experience. When you
experience infinity you do not ask questions anymore, you know It
exists. It is Infinite,
Infinity. God, and those
higher levels of realization of Spirit are the things that humanity
has been trying to explain for the last 12,000 years, or at least
for 6,000 years of history of man, and they have never succeeded,
for example, “Eternity, infinity, God, what are they?
What is eternity?”
exists forever. How can
something exist forever? Intellectually it is impossible to prove that something exists
forever because whatever exists forever has to have had a beginning
and it will end. But
when you experience eternity, you have no doubt.
That is it.
there. There is no
discussion about it. It
is just something that you have experienced It, and you know that It
anything in this temporary or this relative truth, which is created
from the Essence, seeks explanation, seeks to know the answers.
But the answers also are limited with our intellect and mind,
and infinity and God is beyond mind.
How can you explain something that is beyond your realm of
I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great
and dreadful day of the Lord:..” Malachi 4:5.
This says that Elijah will precede you in coming to us?
Is this correct, and if yes, who is he?
We know that Christ made it very clear that it was John the Baptist.
John the Baptist came and claimed the coming of the Christ or
the Messiah. Christ came
as Christ, as Esa the Christ.
Jews and the people, who he came for, did not accept him.
Great problems and great tribulation fell on those who did
not accept the Messenger of God.
always is correct for all the Prophets and the Messengers of God
when they come. They
bring a new leap in human consciousness.
If humanity does not accept them, does not follow their call,
those who reject him also will not progress in this evolutionary
leap, and they will lag behind.
They will be not progressing in a greater degree to go a
At the time
of Christ, it was John the Baptist who came as Elijah.
In my time, there have been many people before me.
Probably you can say more than one Elijah has predicted the
coming of this Revelation and of this truth, and of this Prophet.
You can see Baba, who initiated me and awakened me to spiritual
forces was just like a John the Baptist who baptized Christ, who
also after he was baptized, he realized his mission and reached out
time, God has provided more than one Elijah, and in 1982 there was a
who went around the world and took ads in every major newspaper, in
every major city on earth and proclaimed that Christ will appear in
the spring of 1982.
reached out, someone told us about this gentleman.
As John the Baptist did not accept Christ as the Expected One
that he was waiting for, so we can see that Mr. Crème is not
realizing that what he was saying was about this Mission, not
about the one who is supposedly going to come from the Himalayas and
build his body. He has
not showed up, and I do not think he ever will.
Therefore Mr. Crème is missing the mark again in this
lifetime, as he missed it, probably, at the time of Christ.
So there is more than one John the Baptist this time who came and
predicted the coming of this realization.
have been a lot of prophecies and foretelling of the coming of this
Revelation. There has
been Scriptural backing of this teaching and of the coming of the
Seventh Angel, and the opening of the Book that is sealed with the
Seven Seals. The only
person that can open it is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah.
The person who opens it has to be from the line of King
David, Adam, etc., which all has been proven and given to humanity
in our website.
you can see that John the Baptist indeed came not only in one form,
but as more than one person.
Actually in this Revelation you will see it is much more
supported then any other Revelation before it.
There has never been so many signs that God has given to
humanity, to make it very clear to them that this is It.
This is the One that God has been predicting to come.
As I said,
any time a Prophet comes and brings a Revelation to humanity, those
who reject Him, the great tribulation and the day of reckoning will
come to them. To this
point, each Revelation came for a specific people, just like Islam
came for the Arabs, and Christ came for the Jews and the Children of
Revelation has come for the whole humanity.
This is the only Revelation that has not come for a specific
people, but it has come for the whole humankind.
That is why I did not receive this Revelation where I was
this Revelation in a different culture.
Therefore it is not a culturally-affected Revelation or
specifically revealed for a specific people.
This is universal.
It is the ultimate truth for humanity.
Those who understand this teaching will be cleared, cleaned,
and purified from any dogmas and any obstacles in their
understanding of God and His Revelation.
They no longer will feel they belong to any culture or
boundary on this earth. They belong to the whole earth.
They belong to the whole universe.
their minds, and they see that God is everything.
Therefore they treat the rest of humanity as brothers and
sisters, and come together and realize they are all marching toward
the same goal, that is, to return to Godhead and Oneness with the
Essence, which is permanent.
That is the
only thing that is permanent in the universe, that Essence.
If you become One with that Essence, you have reached the
truth and reality of life and the goal of life.
All those who become attached to this external world and see
this external world as the only truth, become so engrossed in the
illusion of separation from God that they do not even believe or
know that, that Essence exists.
Essence does not have any shape, does not have any form, does not
have any name, and does not have any vibration.
It is absolute stillness in the universe, or the Witness
Entity of the universe. That is the goal, that in our meditation we reveal to humanity.
When you reach that Essence between breathing in and
breathing out, then you can meditate all the time.
Of course we have a gentleman from the Christian background, and he
answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life.
No one comes to the Father except through me.”
That is exactly what we say too, Light Bright.
There is no one who goes to the Father but through this
Mission and this Revelation, and all those before us will not
succeed because the Word of God said, the only people who will come
to Me are those who will realize the Seven Seals, the Seventh
Revelation of God, and they realize what the Eternal Divine Path
is, and they follow It.
Therefore not only Christ said that.
Prophet Muhammad also said the same thing.
He said that God told through him, “Listen to My Prophet.
Whatever He says is from Me, and follow It.”
All the Prophets said the same thing.
If you want to expand your consciousness and understanding,
you have to go and realize this teaching and expand your realization
to see that God does not change His Mind.
God does the same thing over and over.
He has been sending the Prophets to humanity that will bring
It is based on God’s Words.
If you really want to understand the truth, you have to
understand our teachings, Light Bright.
You can stay wherever you want
to stay and believe that you know the truth, which is not based on
the Word of God. The
Word of God clearly says, no one, no one knows the truth or
the Mystery of God until the Seventh Angel comes.
Christ never claimed that he was the Seventh
Angel. Therefore he
could not have given you the whole truth.
Actually He said himself that, “I will bring later the things
that I cannot tell you now, or you cannot understand at this time.”
are you tobies? Do you belong to shaumbra?
What do you mean by that, Zanjoni?
I supposed that you are from Zanjon that you call yourself,
Zanjoni. Probably that
is your last name. And
if you explain a little more….
Yes good, Zanjoni.
Welcome to our room from
What is tobies or shaumbra?
What do you mean by that?
If you could explain a little bit, I am not familiar with
those groups. Even you
can raise your hand as you were instructed, and you can explain it
to me in a deeper level.
don’t we join hands, Muslims, Jews, Christians and Hindus, and bow
to the anti-Christ?
Anti-Christ is the external world, is the delusion or illusion of
the separation from God.
If you read the Bible, even Paul himself
said that the anti-Christ is now with us.
It does not have to come.
It is not a human.
It is not a man.
Of course it could be.
Anyone who denies Christ is an anti-Christ.
Whoever denies God is an anti-Christ.
Therefore they have to be realizing that God exists, and come
together and become one.
We agree with you in the part of joining hands, holding hands and
understanding that God is One.
Muslims deny Christ, Jews deny Christ, Hindus deny Christ.
No, Moslems do not deny Christ.
OK let me see.
the days of the voice of the seventh angel the mystery of God should
be finished as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.”
to know why you have to have a “deep cover.”
There is nothing to cover here.
You can come out of your cover and be with us as an Elect.
wonderful. That was
said, exactly, that is one of the sentences that says no one knows
the truth until the Seventh Angel or Revelation comes.
Also it gives the vision to Prophet Daniel and other Prophets
and tells them, “Seal the vision,” because it is the vision at the
end time, and it will not be revealed to man until the end time of
the coming of the Seventh Revelation.
is Rev. 10:7
Adel Daharma is correct, that verse is 10:7 not 12:7.
So if you want to find it, it is 10:7 in the book
Revelation where it says that.
in the Bible it is revealed clearly that the vision and end
time, no one knows that vision until the Seventh Seal is opened,
until the Lion of the Tribe of Judah opens the Book sealed with the
Seven Seals. Therefore
anyone, no matter who they are, anyone who claims to know the truth,
or end time, or the vision of what is going to happen, are not
fine. That is all right
Deepcover, just for the correction, that is correct, it is 10:7.
in the world should realize this.
Prophet Muhammad did not have it.
Christ did not have it.
Buddha did not have it.
Baha’u’llah, Bab, none of the Prophets before the Seventh
Revelation knew the whole truth until this Revelation comes.
study our teachings, then you realize, “Yes, that makes sense.
That is Scripture.
It is based on the Word of God.
It has fulfilled the prophecies.
I have no choice but to realize what God has been doing and
this is a Call to all of you to study and see the Vision and the
truth, and eventually come to the conclusion that, “This is the
truth.” If it is the
truth, you have no choice but to come, accept it, join it, help to
spread it, and guide other people to also see this truth clearly.
If you came to the conclusion it is not, then we leave you to God,
and we do not even judge you because God will judge you harshly for
sure because a Prophet came to you with the clear signs and called
you to come and join His last Revelation and the truth, and you
denied Him and His Messenger.
The state of
such a person is not going to be very nice.
As that gentleman said, when Christ comes, those who do not
accept Him will greatly suffer because they will not progress in
this leap of consciousness of humanity and they will lag behind.
Anyone who lags behind is like those dinosaurs that lagged
behind, and they could not go to the next state of evolution.
evolution is created by God.
It is not something that God did not create.
God created the universe in an evolutionary process.
question is, “Moslems deny Christ.”
They do not.
do believe in Christ. They deny that he died.
Moslems are not the only people who believe in that.
Rosicrucians and other groups also do not believe that Christ
died. They believe that
he still was alive when they took him from the cross.
But it really does not matter
as we explained many times.
The most important thing is:
What was His Message?
Why did Christ come?
What did He come for?
He came to bring the message of sacrifice.
He came to gather the lost tribes of
Israel, which were the people who came to
came to release The Grace back to humanity.
That is why they did not need to do all that elaborate animal
sacrifices that the Jews were doing.
So they were completely free.
That is why we can receive the Christ easily.
OK let me go
through these questions a little fast here [reading this sentence
from text] “Jews deny Christ.”
actually Christ came for them, and they did not accept him.
But that was prophesied, “When He comes He will take the
Kingdom from them and give it to another people.”
He gave it to the Moslems, and that was prophesied.
You have to
learn our teachings. If
you do, all these questions are going to be answered for you.
They are going to be answered, and you will know exactly what
God was doing. When
Jacob gave the scepter to
he said the scepter is going to stay with him until
was Christ, and he came and the scepter was taken away from the
Tribe of Judah, that is, from the Jews from the Tribe of Judah and
given to another people.
reading from text] “Hindus deny Christ.”
do not care. Hindus are
not that much in the Messiah thing.
They have different priorities.
Again we explain why they do not care.
So again you
have to read our teachings and you will see.
That is why this is the explanation of the Seventh Angel.
do not type any more because I am going to miss your questions if
you type more. My screen
is full right now.
Let us go to
Adel and see what question he has.
Go ahead Adel.
I have been looking into the Baha’i Faith and I learned some time
ago that Bab used the five-pointed star as a symbol of the Bab
Faith, or Babi’s Faith.
I was just wondering, I was looking at the
Fourth Sign and in that Sign, the Sign of Islam, there is a
five-pointed star. Is
that a link to the Baha’i Faith or to Bab, or is that not related?
Could be. Could very
well be the five-pointed star that they used.
Of course the Moslems do not have that five-pointed star in
the middle of the crescent sign.
I think they have just a dot or something like that there.
Then it was revealed that, that is exactly what it is, the
five-pointed star is reaching out.
The five-pointed star with the point toward
heaven is man reaching to God.
When that is turned around and the top of the five-pointed
star is reaching toward the earth, it is the fallen angel, or the
people who use the powers to fulfill their desires from the external
world or creation. It
goes with the sorcery and magical powers, and using the power of God
for selfish gain. That
brings great destruction.
So that star, which is the five-pointed star,
can very well be the one that Bab used.
I have never seen it.
We participated in user groups in the Internet for a while.
We created a big splash and a lot of people were sending back
and forth things and arguing about their religions.
As you see here people come also and they believe in a very
specific part of The Greatest Sign, and they think they know
the whole truth. They do
not. The only people who
know the whole truth is when the Seventh Revelation comes to
So I have not seen exactly what Bab used.
But your realization or your understanding could be very much
that is what He used.
That actually is what one of the people in the
news group brought up, that originally the symbol that Bab used was
the five-pointed star, not the nine-pointed star that Baha’u’llah
used. And of course it
could be said that both of them are correct because the five-pointed
star is the man reaching to God.
That is the spirit of man.
The nine-pointed star is the end of a period
because nine is the end of one numerical period, from 1 to 9, and
then with 10 it starts again with one and zero and then 11, and 12,
and so on.
Therefore in numerology, 9 is the end of a
period. With the
revelation of Bab and Baha’u’llah, the spiritual realization and
expansion of the mind came.
Then who is an Elect was revealed.
If you follow the next Revelation that came to humanity, then
you become an Elect. Therefore when you follow the first five steps, ending with Bab and
Baha’u’llah, you become an Elect.
So therefore you can say both signs are correct, the five-pointed
star, which very well might be the same five-pointed star in the
Islamic sign, and also the nine-pointed star, the ending of the
creation of the Elects.
But I have not yet seen the five-pointed star
that Bab used. Actually
I would like to find the original Bayan.
If anyone has it, we would like to see it.
We have not been able to find the original Bayan
anywhere. Some Baha’is
say they do have it but they have never offered to provide it for
If anyone has the original Bayan, if any
find it in… I do not
know, Zanjoni, are you in
or are you somewhere out of
If you can find someone who has the original Bayan, we
will digitize it and give it back to you.
But we would like to know it exactly, especially the Persian
version of it. If we can
have it, if you know someone who has it, we would love to have it,
digitize it, and look at it.
So we have not really seen the original
that Bab wrote, and apparently we cannot find it.
It goes very well with the history of the Baha’is that after
Bab, they tried to completely destroy anything left from Him.
may get it for you.
That is great, Zanjoni, I appreciate that.
If you find it, just send an e-mail to
but not the one that the Baha’is have, Zanjoni.
I am looking for the original one.
If you know some Babi’s in
Iran, probably you can find it
there, and they might send it to us.
We will give it back to them.
We just want to digitize it and see it, OK?
is he coming, 2007?
OK, there are some other questions that we missed before.
“When is he coming, 2007?”
He is here.
This is him, Zanjoni.
It is not to wait for anyone else.
That is done.
is finished. The
Revelation has come to humanity, and it is done.
So it came in 1982 and it has been here for more
than twenty-five years or so.
So you can just relax, go to our website, and realize the
truth that has come to man.
It is the Revelation that all of you have been called to come
and see, and it is wonderful.
Let us see what Zanjoni has to say.
Go ahead, Zanjoni.
I believe you
and this is very interesting.
I came along to another group, which they called themselves
I will type the name for you.
And they are suggesting your type of meditation, breathe in
and breathe out. And I
am just a little bit puzzled.
According to the Biblical Books, the end of the era of the
human life is 2006. I
want to listen to your take on that.
Crimson Circle believes that 2007 is the
last date. So I want to
know what your ideas on that are.
You are welcome, Zanjoni.
Yes, I am from
I was born in
When I came to the
United States, this Revelation came
to me. It is a long
story, and it is in our website that you can go and read it there.
I do expect a lot of people will take a part of
our teachings and try to pass it on as their own.
The way of the meditation that has been revealed to humanity
now, was not on earth. So anyone who is using it, probably they have gone to our room and
learned it from our meditation room, and they are going and giving
it away to other people.
I do not know this group.
But the point of how they came up with the idea that it is
going to be in 2007, because there have been many people through
history that they predicted that the end time will come in a
specific time, and it has never happened.
Of course we do not believe that the world is
going to finish, not at least for another 1,015 years or 1,014 years
from now. Even we do not
know what is going to happen at that time.
So those who predict the end of human life, they are
absolutely incorrect because when it says the end of time it talks
about the end of the period, the end of an era.
We are going toward a new era, which is called the Golden
In that time humanity will forego all the dogmas
and all the beliefs that separate them from each other.
They will eventually realize that there is only One God.
They all are from the same Essence, and they cannot be
Actually there is no part in the universe that
can be separated from any other part because everything is God.
How can I have a Revelation that separates me from you, or
separates me from another person who is Jew, or Christian, or Hindu,
or Buddhist, etc?
is that, the Golden era?
That is what is coming.
It is not that it is going to be ending, or the world is going to
finish. That is a
Christian idea and many other religions concept that it is going to
end. But not according
to God and His Revelation, because after the Seventh Angel, indeed
it is going to take around 1,000 years for the Elects to become the
sons of God.
At this time, what is going to happen will be
revealed to us in a thousand years.
So the people or group that are teaching that, you can ask
them, What prophecies have they fulfilled, from where have they
received their information, and how and why?
What are their credentials?
Of course we believe by the year 2017 or 2018
our teachings will be so well spread that there will be no point of
return and humanity eventually will have no choice but to come, see,
and realize the Work of God and understand this is indeed the last
Revelation from God to humanity.
They will come together at that time.
But even in 2017 and 2018, we do not teach that
the world will end. The
world will not end. Still we have at least around 1,000 years to go.
So those people are incorrect and you will see
that 2007 will come and pass and nothing will happen because what
they say is not based on the Scriptures, is not based on the Word of
God. No one knows the
truth but the Revealer of the Word of God.
Our teaching is based on that Word.
God said that after the Revelation of the Seventh Seal there
is a period that eventually this teaching will fill the whole earth,
God will come to earth.
That Kingdom will last for 1,000 years.
After 1,000 years there is going to be again a period of the
fall of man. After that
will be the
Will that Kingdom be on earth?
Or will we all leave, go to Pure Consciousness, and be with
Him forever in heaven? That will be revealed to us in a thousand years.
In that time, we all shall return and the new Revelation will
tell us what will happen after that.
So there are a lot of groups out there.
There are a lot of claimants out there that they claim to be
Christ and they claim to know the truth.
They claim their religion is better than anyone else’s.
They claim they are the Messiah.
But you have to look at their credentials.
You have to see if they have fulfilled the prophecies, if
they are from the Tribe of Judah.
Have they opened the Seven Seals, the Book sealed with the
Seven Seals? Did they
reveal the Mystery of God and explain the Revelations before it?
If you go to our website, if you study our
teachings and you really understand what we teach, then all those
teachings that are out there lose their light, and they become like
a candle in front of a sun.
You cannot even see them anymore.
They are colorless and lightless.
This is indeed the sun that has come to man, and
it is warming the hearts of many and will awaken them.
Those who do not understand it are blinded by it and will
fall to even greater darkness.
That is the truth of the matter.
It sounds a little cruel probably to some people
that, how could the Revelation of God make some to go even deeper in
darkness? But that sun
does. If you look at the
sun directly and you do not have the protection and training of how
to look at it, you will be blinded.
So if you understand this teaching you will not
really be that much interested to know what the other groups say.
Of course, you can if you want to.
There is no control here for anyone.
But eventually if you realize yourself and saw the Vision and
the truth that has come from this Revelation, you will be amazed,
“How can so much truth come out of one person or one Revealer?”
That is what God said.
God said at the end time the Seventh Angel will reveal the
As we explained last week also, many people say
it has been predicted that not all the truth will come before the
Seventh Angel. There are
going to be two parts of the twenty-seven parts of the truth, and
when He comes He reveals the rest of the twenty-five.
Indeed that makes a lot of sense because it is
amazing how many questions have been answered, how many explanations
have been given, and how many questions have been thrown at me or
here in this
The answers always have been acceptable to the questioner and
they always said, “Yes, that makes sense to me and it is the truth.”
Therefore it is the truth.
It is here.
the Call to you and everyone else in this room and on earth to come, to
see. They do not have to
fight. If they
understand the explanation we gave, there is no separation between
Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Moslems, and Baha’is, and all
of them are a part of God and His Revelation.
They can relax, they can come, they can see, they can come
together and create an environment that they can progress in a
But the question is, would they listen?
Would they go to our website, our teachings, listen to the
lectures, and understand our teachings?
Then they would say, “Yes, I am a Moslem; with
this I am going to become a better Moslem.”
“I am a Christian; with this I am going to become a better
“I am a Jew; with this I will become a better Jew,” and on and on,
or Buddhist, or Hindu, or Baha’is.
All of them can progress and become a “greater”
in their religions as they are now.
They will eventually realize, “There is One God that sent all
these Revelations. There is no separation between them.”
Therefore they have no choice but to come,
create Communities of Light, and become the Divines.
How about Justkidding, why don’t you take the mic and
let us hear you, your question?
Go ahead and take the mic.
Can God's HOLY NAME be realized through following the Eternal
Yes, to know God’s Holy Name, can we simply achieve this by
just following the Eternal Divine Path, or do we have to be
initiated into the
main goal to propagate the teachings of Maitreya, but knowing
God’s Holy Name itself, can we achieve this through the Eternal
Divine Path? Thank
By the Grace of God, everything is possible.
But probably I should have explained last week, when I said
you can be initiated, in a little deeper level.
Those who really ask for initiation in the
are those who have familiarized themselves with the teachings in a
greater degree. They have
tested the Spirit, and they have come to the conclusion, “Yes
indeed, I trust this Spirit, I trust this Revelation.
I can see the Vision, and my heart is 100% with it.
I am ready to commit myself 100% to it.
Therefore I have no question left about jumping into this
fray or bandwagon, or this truth.”
the person who asks to be initiated is expected to have reached that
point. If they have not,
they can still in a greater degree help the
and progress in it little by little until they reach a point that
they do feel that, yes indeed, they are a part of this teaching and
want to be close.
reveal The Holy Name to you if you just follow the Eternal Divine
Path? He might.
It is up to Him.
It is really His Holy Name, and He can reveal it to you.
But it is
just like asking if you can learn to become a doctor in chemistry by
going to the library and studying all the books in the library about
chemistry and eventually giving yourself a doctorate degree.
You might succeed.
You might go and put effort, and become a doctor in chemistry
without going to school.
is much easier if you go to the elementary school and through all
the twelve grades, go to the university and obtain your bachelor’s
degree and master’s degree, and then become a doctor in chemistry.
Many have already gone through it.
They have already studied it.
They will bring you the essence of what will help you to get
there as fast as possible.
Furthermore, if you give yourself a doctorate degree, still
the society will not accept it as a valid license.
So will God
reveal to you The Holy Name?
not saying He might not. But will He or not?
is the question.
will you know you received The Holy Name?
Even if He did give it to you, or whatever you received, is
it The Holy Name or not? That is really the question you have to ask yourself.
As the chemistry department from an accredited university has
to give you a degree to be accepted by society, I am the only person
accredited to reveal The Word.
receiving of The Holy Name is not the goal.
The goal is seeing the Vision, seeing the truth that has been
revealed to humanity, following the Eternal Divine Path, and
Heaven On Earth.
If you follow the Eternal Divine Path, you have no
choice but to be dedicated to the
100%. If you have
reached that point, then the rest is not going to be very difficult.
But the goal
is not to be initiated. You do not have to be initiated to be in the
Initiation is for the people who are 100% dedicated to the
Mission, and they want to work with me
in a very close way. Then we can create the facilitating body so we can create an
organized way to spread this
Mission to every corner on earth.
It is when
you reach a point that you really want to work very close with me.
Therefore it is a period that we get to know each other, we
create a rapport with one another, and we reach the point that
eventually we say, “Yes, we can work very well with each other.”
Therefore the next step is to create the facilitating body.
can help the
Anyone can see the Vision.
Anyone can be in the
Mission even if you are not initiated.
I hope that answered your question.
But will following the Eternal Divine Path reveal to
you The Holy Word? It might.
It might not.
is up to God absolutely.
He gave The Holy Name to me and told me, initiate people with it.
So really the conclusion is yours, and even when if you
received something, how do you know it is The Holy Name or not?
So, it is really not that important.
The most important thing is to see, what is the Message God
has given to humanity?
Zanjoni is asking,
do you have a church in the
Well, we do not have anything in the
Washington area, but we
are looking for people who are called the contacts.
The contacts are the people who love the
Mission, or they like the
Mission, and they want to be a contact
in their area.
What they do, usually they have our literature,
at least our announcements.
It depends how far they want to go.
They become a contact person in that area.
They try to reach out to their community because we cannot
reach everyone with the Internet.
First of all, not everyone has the Internet.
Second of all, even those who have the Internet do not come
to PalTalk, to come here, or they do not know where our website is.
Even when they go to our website, some of them
do not stay more than a couple of seconds or a minute.
Some of them have a problem getting in because technically
they are not that connected to the website provided.
So there are probably a lot of reasons why they are not going
to be connected to us through the Internet.
The contact people are the people who become a
contact of the
Mission in their community.
They reach out to the community to give this Message to as
many people as possible. They can start from their families, their friends, their relatives,
their “anyone” who can listen.
If they did not listen, they go to someone else.
God works in ways that we sometimes do not understand or do
not realize that is more effective.
Sometimes our family might not listen to us as well as
a stranger because our family knows us and they do not believe that
we can teach them or guide them.
They think that they have been with us for all our lives, and
they have seen our failings.
So they cannot accept that.
are you now?
We are in
It is in the
If you are in
Washington you are in the same country.
Of course the
United States is very huge.
We are in the southwest of the
United States, in
is south of
Colorado, east of
Arizona, and west of
So probably you can find us it on the map of the
if you want to know exactly where we are.
But we do have contacts all over the many nations and
also all over the
We have contacts in
Pennsylvania, and in
other states. So if you
want to become a contact in the
area, that is great. If
you like the
Mission, go to the
website, read more, and become more familiar with the truth of it.
you have workshops there?
Well, we do not have workshops, per se.
But we do have a gathering, a yearly gathering, called the
Feast of Tabernacles. That Feast is over a week long, eight days of gathering together,
and in that Feast we practice the practices of the
share food. We gather
together, and we spend a week together in September or October.
You can go to the website to read about it.
It changes every year because it follows the lunar year
instead of the solar year.
So every year it is ten days less.
Then after three years, it goes back one month.
Each year it starts at a different time.
If you want to know the timing, go to our website, go to the
section “more information,” and go to the “Yearly Gathering.”
That is when most of our people come together and have a
one-week, great celebration together.
Anyone who has been in that week of celebration has enjoyed
it. They have really
appreciated a week of absolute wrapping up in the
Mission and Joy, sharing, and being
So we invite everyone to come to that Feast.
Yes, people are.
course we would rather see everyone who comes to at least know the
basic teachings and understand the base of the teachings.
Then they will come and feel more comfortable here.
We do practices that it seems a little different
than the regular day-to-day life.
Of course they do not have it all the time.
If someone gives the URL of the Feast in the room, people can
click and go and see what the time is.
You can find it in the website on the left menu, under more
information, or something like that.
There it says, “Yearly gathering”, or “Feast.”
But if someone posts it in the room, that would be great.
It is a fantastic time to come together and
learn, see the other people in the
Mission, get to know them, and become
familiar with each other.
Really we do not have any workshop because it is
something that comes from your heart.
This is the room you can consider as a workshop, probably.
We can talk about this Revelation together.
You can ask questions and I can explain the Eternal Divine
Path, how all the religions are unified, and why we believe that
we have the last Revelation of God.
Also you can see the signs, the signs of wars, destruction, rumors of
wars, and upheaval, terrorism, and people attacking other people,
being attached and frustrated.
People do not understand each other.
The cultures are mixing.
At the same time they are different.
Each culture wants to dominate the other cultures, when the
only acceptable culture is God’s Culture.
If everyone accepts God’s Culture, then we do not have a specific culture
for any specific people. They can come together and become united and unified.
That is what this
is, and this
will succeed because it is God’s Will.
Those who have been called for, for the last 12,000 years,
they have been in progress; they have been meditating and awakening
their spiritual forces.
Now they have reached a point that this is calling them, they see the
Vision, and they say, “Yes, it makes sense.”
But if it does not make sense to you, then it is not for you.
It is so easy because when it makes sense you have to tell
yourself, “Yes, it just makes sense,” and you will come and join us.
you bless people in this room to be safe?
Well, we teach everyone should bless themselves.
We teach you to meditate and come close to God.
If you are close to God, what is the safest place in the
world? Being close to
the Essence or God, and that will be safe.
Therefore we do not recommend anyone to do
anything for anyone else because if someone else does it for you,
you did not learn how to do it yourself.
It is just like, what is better, to give a fish to a hungry
man, or to teach him how to fish himself?
Here we teach you how to meditate, awaken your spiritual
forces, and to go close to God.
Then God will Bless you, and you will be safe.
Actually the safest place on earth is the
Communities of Light and the area where the people create the
Communities of Light.
Therefore this time is not to heal individuals.
It is not to bless individual people; it is to bless the
whole earth. It is to
bless and heal the whole humanity.
It will bring the peace on earth.
This is a new teaching; it is a new wine.
You have to put it in a new skin.
You have to realize it is your responsibility now to
heal yourself. As Christ
said, those whom He takes the unclean spirit from, that unclean
spirit goes and finds seven more.
Then they all come back, they see the house is clean, and the
state of the man will become worse than it was before.
That means the person who has been healed has
not learned how to heal himself.
The person who feels safe by our blessing has not realized
that his safety is in the Communities of Light, in the
following of the Eternal Divine Path, and in God’s Will and
Word. If they understand
that, then they are going to be safe themselves.
Therefore we teach responsibility and growth for
every individual. This
is the time of maturity. This is the time for the human, for every individual, to mature
themselves and take the responsibility for their spiritual progress.
The way has been shown.
The way has been given.
The way is the Eternal Divine Path, meditation,
awakening of the spiritual forces, contemplation, concentration,
chanting, dancing, and all those techniques that have been given to
humanity to this point. Now it has been given in a greater degree.
Therefore the human has to progress and grow up
by themselves, not look for someone else to heal them, because if
someone else heals me, I do not know how to heal myself.
When that person leaves me, then what?
I do not know how to do it.
This person did.
Then the spirit comes back with seven more.
What am I going to do?
I am going to go and live with the other person so he can
heal me all the time?
How do we learn to heal ourselves?
How do we learn to heal ourselves?
By meditation and realizing that stillness between breathing
in and breathing out, which heals.
That is another thing about the initiation.
That Word that has been revealed in the process of
initiation, to the fourth level, you will learn the energy, the life
force in yourself. You
can use that life force to heal yourself if you realize that life
force is there.
Even at this point really our concentration is
mostly on the creation of the Communities of Light and the
God On Earth.
When that environment is created, there is going to be so
little karma created that many people will not become sick.
As it says in the Bible, they used to
live 800 years, 900 years.
How? How did they
do that? They knew the
life force, and they could use it to heal themselves.
Also they would not create great karmas, and therefore they
would not die as fast and the way they do today.
So that is another thing in initiation.
Those who eventually will receive the fourth part know that
God is with them all the time.
If they really meditate on that and realize The Word deeply
in themselves, they do not have to meditate formally anymore.
They can meditate constantly all the time.
Because they are connected with that energy all the time,
they can go around and do their worldly things, at the same time be
connected to God and His Spirit.
That is how you heal yourself.
Again, you heal yourself by being in the
Communities of Light.
In the Communities of Light you will not have as much
stress or as many problems as people have in their lives.
So they will not have all these negative effects on
themselves. There are
many ways the
has given to humanity the healing power to heal themselves.
Healing individuals is healing the earth,
healing the collective consciousness of man, bringing the truth to
them. Therefore just by
knowing this Vision, just by knowing this Revelation, you already
have been healed. You
have been healed of the disease of the mind and spirit.
You no longer are narrowed by religion and
dogmas. You have
expanded your mind. You
have gone beyond human limits.
Therefore you have already been healed a lot more than any
But more important than individual healing and
individual striving to improve our own personal things is to
concentrate on the whole of humanity and expand our consciousness as
God sees the whole universe, and realize that we are a part of that
universe. Indeed our
healing is based on the healing of the universe.
The more we concentrate on our own healing, we
are concentrating on a very small portion of the universe.
The more we concentrate on the universe, the more the
universe is healed, so will we be healed.
So expand your mind.
See the Vision.
Realize what God is calling you for and heal humanity, heal their
teachings, heal their religions, heal man to expand their
realizations, and become one with one another.
As you heal them, you will learn how to heal yourself in a
But if you concentrate only on healing yourself, still you separate
yourself from the rest of the universe, and your healing will not
last very long because your healing depends upon the whole universe.
That is the whole base of the teaching; you
cannot go to Pure Consciousness by yourself.
You cannot reach that high state without the rest of the
struggling unit consciousnesses to reach and go to God.
That is another thing that humanity has to realize, that
individual progress depends on the collective progress.
They cannot separate themselves from the collectivity.
If they realize that, then they do not seek the
personal healing or personal safety but they will realize that their
personal salvation in all levels is connected to the collective
It is a “Catch-22,”
I can't hear God, so how do I test the Spirit?
Well, that is where
you have to realize that God said this Revelation would come.
God said that the Seven Seals would be opened.
God said there would be Seven Angels, Seven Revelations.
is from God. I have to
accept and trust this Spirit first before I can eventually test the
Spirit that I can feel within myself.
intellectually at least you can come to an educated conclusion that,
“Yes, God said all those things.
Now it is here and indeed I have been called for it, I found
it, and now I am here.”
Therefore we have no choice but to accept that the Spirit is from
If you do
that intellectually, when you really follow what has been asked you
to follow, then eventually it is a promise that you will also
experience the Spirit of God.
That is the first step, to prove to yourself that this is
from God. If it is from
God, then you have no choice but to follow to that realization.
So if you do
that then the Spirit of God will eventually come to you.
But if you want to receive the Spirit first and then follow
the teaching, it is going to be pretty hard because even for the
Elects, it is going to take them 1,000 years before they become the
sons of God. That is
exactly what the Scripture says.
So good luck, I hope you do feel the Spirit of God, and then if you
do feel the Spirit of God, again you do not have any choice but to
say, “Yes, indeed, this is the Spirit that sent the Revelation from
Go ahead Shirin, you have your hand up.
In this age of instant everything, instant messages, instant TV,
instant food, instant everything, it seems like the by-product of
this instant culture is that we do not know how to create
dedication. I was
wondering if you could expand more on what dedication really is?
Very good question.
Dedication is the ability to become committed to something
that is in a higher level of thought and understanding.
That is a very good observation that, yes, we want instant
coffee, instant tea, instant everything.
We want instant God.
It is not going to happen.
God is not instant.
Actually in a sense It is instant in this time because by
understanding the technique of the meditation we have given
humanity, they will realize God in a much greater degree than ever
They had to meditate for hundreds of lifetimes
before they even realized that stillness between the breathing is
the greatest part of realizing God.
But becoming that stillness between the breathing by having a
lot of instant coffee is impossible.
The more you eat meat, coffee, and rajasic and
tamasic foods, the less that energy will be realized.
Therefore those people who really want to realize the Spirit
of God, they have to realize the base of the Spirit and the truth,
and it has been made much easier than it used to be, but still it
needs dedication. Dedication means to see the Word of God and not craving to reach Him
by force or by expecting it to happen to you very easily.
So it is indeed a “Catch-22.”
It is a period of time that humanity is not willing to give
in easily to the truth of God.
But that is OK.
That is why unfortunately the tribulation is going to come.
That is, the destruction will come to humanity, and the human
has no choice but to eventually slow down and just relax, and go and
read the Words of God and become one with them.
That is actually the struggle probably the
Mission is going through and the whole humanity is going
through, that this generation, as you said, has to have everything
instant, right away. If
it does not happen like that, it is no good.
It is not going to be like that, and humanity has to learn to
be dedicated, more discerning, and become a greater degree into the
Word of God and realize how to reach Him.
This is a very good observation Shirin.
Probably we have to teach our children to become more
dedicated in their lives.
OK Chopzillian says,
I have a question.
not l want to argue at all but I would like to know
how is the Maitreya a Messenger of God even after Baha'u'llah
said that there would be no more Messengers of God for 1,000 years
after His Revelation?
Well, actually it has been answered.
That question has been answered many times, and it is now
also in our website that the answer has been given.
Those 1,000 years were not for Baha’u’llah.
Baha’u’llah was not the Seventh Angel.
He never claimed to be the Seventh Angel.
Even Abdu’l Baha himself clearly talks about the coming of
the Seventh Angel and His Kingdom.
Therefore how can the Seventh Angel come and in 1,000 years
would be for the Baha’i teaching?
Also clearly God said the only religion God said
is not perfect is the teaching of the Baha’is that God said is not
perfect. They glorify
their Messenger instead of God.
Baha’u’llah even does not mean the Glory of God
as many Baha’is claim. The Glory of God is Jallal’u’llah, not Baha’u’llah.
Therefore many things in the Baha’i religion are not perfect.
Even Baha’u’llah wrote many things himself and
then threw them into the river.
How can that be the last revelation or revelation of a
thousand years if someone reveals something and then says people are
not ready for it and throws it away into the river?
This is all on our website.
It has been explained many times why that 1,000 years is not
referring to Baha’u’llah.
You can find it in our website easily.
Really the first question for all of you is to
see this is from God. This is the Revelation He has sent to you, this is the Prophet of
God who has come to you. That is the understanding you have to realize by yourself first.
The rest of your questions really will be
answered. Those were
human questions mostly today that we received, that were the
questions from people who have not realized what this Revelation is,
would ask. So the first
step is, we should realize that we will not come even close to being
resistant to the things that have been revealed to us.
I will check
it out. I would really
like to hear the Maitreya though.
You are welcome here.
You can see it; there is a lot of truth here.
Baha’is, of course, are a part of our teachings and are from
God. But it is not
perfect, and it is not the last Revelation.
Even God said in the Bible that shortly after the
Baha’i Teaching, the last Revelation would come.
Go ahead, Zanjoni.
The question I have is about the name of God in the Persian
language. In the Persian
language, “Hoda” comes out of the meaning of, “Know yourself.”
And does this mean that if you know yourself then you are God
and you are Spirit? I
want to now what is your take on that and what is the root of this “Hoda.”
Actually “Hod: and “Hoda” come from the same root.
When they say “Hoda” and “Hod,” “Hod” is a reflection of “Hoda,”
It is just like Atman and atman in Hinduism.
Atman with the small “a” is “Hod,” or self or person, and
atman with the capital “A” is God.
The goal of Hinduism is when Atman and atman realize they are
one and there is no separation between them.
The words “Hod” and “Hoda” have come from the
Zoroastrian background, religion, to the Persian language.
We know that the Persians were a part of the Aryan race that
and they split into two. One of them went to India, continued to be Hindu, and mixed with the
African descendants who came from the part of Africa that had split
from Africa and came to Asia, and went underneath Asia and pushed
Asia higher to the Himalayas and is still raising every year a
couple of inches.
They mixed with the natives there.
Even now, you can observe that the people from the north of
are whiter than those from the south of
because the northern Indians mixed with the Aryans who were white
and came from
The Persians came also from
and Khorason, and from the northwest of
Persia, and eventually came all the way down to
They received the Prophet Zoroaster, and they followed the
Zoroastrian religion and then Zoroaster of course taught them that
there is only One God.
Actually the Aryans knew “Hod” and “Hoda” is the same.
Even if you look at the symbology of the European Celtics and
all the people in the past, they have the swastika and many symbols
that Hindus used. The
Hindu, European, and Persian languages all came from the same root.
Therefore they knew “Hod” and “Hoda” is the
same, and self and God are One.
Even the Bible said, “Be still and know that I am
God,” and, “You have been created in the image of God.”
So all those things are the indications that self, “Hod,” and
God, “Hoda,” are from the same Essence and they are One.
The Persians came all the way, and even Abraham,
Abram, was a Persian who went to the south of
and founded the Hebrew religion.
And of course Arabs also are the children of the same being,
Abram or Abraham. So you
can see a lot of Persian blood is in the Arabs and Jews.
Now Jews are against Moslems and Iranians, and
they are fighting with each other when they came from the same root.
They do not realize that they are brothers and sisters.
So you can see these things have to be realized with all of
them. They have to come
together and become unified.
So you are right, absolutely.
“Hod” comes from the same root as the Essence, as “Hoda.”
It is the same thing as Atman and atman, or self and God.
They are all One.
We are all in the image of God.
That does not mean that every self or Hod
created the universe. The Essence or the Center of the universe created the universe,
which is what the American Indians called, “The Great Spirit.”
But that Great Spirit and that small spirit are the same.
I leave you all to God.
Again meditate on these words.
Bring your consciousness and energy in a higher level.
See the truth of this Revelation.
Go and study our teachings.
Become one with them and realize that indeed this explains
the Mystical Paths: Hinduism, Buddhism, and Cabbalism, Saints in Christianity, Sufis,
and every other teaching that says, you can know God.
It is just like that Moslem, that Sufi, who
jumps of Joy and says, “Annallah, I am God.”
He has realized the Oneness of the Self, and Hod and Hoda.
And know that Judaism is a part of God and this Revelation.
Christianity is a part of this Revelation.
Islam is a part of this Revelation.
Baha’is are a part of this Revelation.
They are all unified.
God indeed has been Gracious to humanity to send this Revelation to
show the Way back to God.
next week. Sal-OM!