the Mission of Maitreya’s Conversation Room.
We hope that our members in Florida have moved from the Path of
Frances, the hurricane that is coming to that land, that they are safe
and sound, and that no harm will come to them.
The safest place
in the world seems to be New Mexico where God has chosen to send this
Revelation. There is not
going to be as much harm and disaster here as is coming to everywhere
else in the world.
we will be here with you for an hour and a half.
The discussion and the topic is the Mission of Maitreya,
the Eternal Divine Path.
information that you need is in the website.
It has been given to you and now the Revelation, the mystery of
God that has been hidden from humanity all this time, has been revealed
Revelation has been talked about and written.
We have made tapes (audio and video), and all the information
people need to know to realize what God was doing for the last 12,000
years is here. We can
explain about creation, how history has been guided by God, and all the
evolutionary steps that man has gone through to come to this point of
human history that has been predicted will come after the opening of the
Seven Seals. The starting of
the coming of the Kingdom of God on earth has been revealed to man.
understands our teachings and this Revelation has the greatest grip and
understanding of the truth that has been revealed for the last 12,000
years. They can understand
what God has been doing, what He will do in a very short time, and how
eventually His Kingdom will come on earth.
Coming to this
room, going to our website, understanding and reading The Holiest
Of the Holies (THOTH), The Last Testament, our Scripture, you
will see the truth of God that has been revealed in all the Scriptures
of the world and how all the religions of the world are a part of the
greater truth. They can be
Many people come
to our room and ask, “How can all the religions of the world be unified?
It is impossible.”
Yes, for man it is impossible.
For God it is not because He already knew that all of them are a
part of a greater truth.
Humanity now also has to see the way God looks at things and they should
overcome their dogmas, their understandings, and their human desires to
hang onto their own beliefs, cultures, and what the preachers, teachers,
rabbis, priests, mullahs, and brahmins have told them what God meant.
The truth is that there is only One God.
How can there be many religions?
Now that question
has been answered. There is
only one religion, one Path, one Way to God.
There are not many.
There are not many Gods.
There is One God that is Formless, Nameless, Invisible, and Eternal.
Those who disagree with this do not have the realization and
understanding of God’s Plan.
This room is to
open you to discuss and understand these teachings in a greater degree
and depth, and to come here and ask questions because the Revelation is
perfectly revealed to man and there is not much left that is not clear
for humanity. If you are a
faultfinder, you can continue finding faults and not accepting the truth
that clearly has come to you.
If you are a truthful one and the Elect, you see the Vision, you
will study all the teachings, and then your questions will be how I can
understand this teaching in a deeper level, instead of finding faults in
There are no
faults in this teaching. It
is perfect because God is Perfect.
He never reveals a teaching that is not perfect, especially the
last one, the Seventh Angel, the Seventh Revelation that God said that
His Mystery will finish.
If you are too
intellectual and always referring the Word of God with the written word
of man, then you will be always finding something that your intellect is
not grasping and you think the fault is the fault of the Revelation.
The truth is that there is no fault in the Revelation.
If you find fault in this, it is your intellect that is not going
beyond that analytical mind. Go to the intuition of oneness and understanding.
in this Revelation, teaching, and God, and go beyond the analytical mind
to oneness with the Spirit and experience God, instead of always trying
to explain It. When you
experience God then you know that this teaching is from God and your
unity with God will be complete.
The only thing
left for the Mission at this point is to prepare, come together,
create the Facilitating Body, and eventually the hierarchy from the Communities of Light.
Then when humanity reaches a point that they see that their man-made
systems will not work, they will submit and surrender to the Will of God
and will join the Communities of Light and the Kingdom of God
will come on earth.
As long as
humanity has not realized that, as long as man thinks they can create
peace and unity on earth with their man-made approaches, we have no
choice but to continue like a thief of the night to preach these
teachings, reach those who are willing to hear them, and little by
little find those who are the Elects, are willing to understand this
Vision clearly, and come to the conclusion that there is nothing really
worth anything on this earth but this Revelation, following it, becoming
one with it, and being a part of it.
Then there will be people who will be completely dedicated to this
Cause, come here and join us, and work closely to facilitate the
manifestation of the hierarchy from the Communities of Light.
Eventually the Kingdom of God will come on earth, and men will
bring the Spirit of God among themselves and create an environment that
God will be number one and His Laws and Will, will be followed by the Communities of Light.
As we know, man is stubborn.
Man is willful.
They want to
follow their own wills, whims, and desires.
What they follow will not take them to God but it will take them
in a greater degree to Maya. The more you go to Maya and away from God, the less the Spirit of God
will come to you, to your community, to anywhere you are.
You will not be able to fulfill the goal of the life.
The Goal Of The
Life Is To Be(Come) Divine. The goal of the life is the unity with the Spirit, and the unity with
God, and the creation of an environment that will help you, your family,
your neighbors, your community, your nation, and earth eventually to
accelerate your progress to becoming one with God.
If you resist God
and let your ego come in, no matter how much Satsang I give, how much
truth I reveal, how much Revelation comes through from God to you, you
will not progress because you still hang onto your own little world and
will not let it go to become a part of God.
That will not work.
It is really each
individual that has to meditate on this by themselves and incorporate
this truth in their lives to a point that they do not need any external
support, or stimulation, or constant attention but a self-motivated
individual that the Eternal Divine Path and the Word of God is a
part of their Spirit. No
matter what happens externally, internally they are always connected
with their purpose in life: You want to become Divine and a part of God.
For those who
just came to this room, this is the Conversation Room for the Mission
of Maitreya. We have
been giving Satsangs and Discourses for the last twenty-three or
twenty-four years, since 1982.
Now this Revelation is almost perfectly revealed to humanity.
It is a Revelation that unifies all the religions of the world.
We know many
people say it is impossible to unify all the religions of the world but
it is done! It is possible.
God said it is possible.
He prophesied that at the end time He would reveal a teaching
that would reveal His Mystery and there would be no mystery left after
This Revelation has
come to man now and what we are asking is for everyone to go to our
website and study our teachings.
It is all there.
this Conversation, or the Discourses that we are giving now will be
available in a couple of hours after 11:30AM MST.
Then you can listen to this session and understand what was said.
This room is for you to come here and ask questions about these
teachings, and let us discuss in a very good manner together to see
which one is the Truthful One.
Is it the
Mystical Paths, Hindus, Buddhists, Cabbalists, Saints in Christianity,
Sufis, and all other teachings that teach, “Know thyself to know God?”
Or is it the other religions that say, “No one can go to God but
us because we are the Elected Ones,” as the Jews and Hebrews say?
Or, do the Christians have the only way, “No one can go to the
Father but through us?”
Or, “This is the
last revelation,” as Islam, surrendering and submission?
According to Moslems that is the only way.
No one goes to Allah or God but those who are Moslems.
Or, is it the
Baha’i teaching that says, “Basically all religions of the world are the
same? They are from the same
God, and they all say the same thing?”
Do they really
say the same thing? We say,
no, they do not. They do not
say the same thing. Each of
them has a specific message for humanity and when you put them together
you see the whole picture.
By understanding this teaching on our website, you can come and see why
it is not only the Mystical Paths that take you to God, why it is not
only the Jewish people who are the Elects, why Christians do not have
the only way, Moslems do not have the last word, and the Baha’i
teaching, a lot of it is not based on the Scriptures and the Word of
understand that each of them also are from God.
There is only One God.
If there is only One God, why are there so many religions?
Crest_line is asking:
do religions hate one another?
is because they do not know the last Revelation of God.
It is because each of them is following a lot of dogmas and
misunderstandings from all their preachers and teachers.
Many humans are not the Elects, are not the people
who have been meditating and progressing for the last 12,000 years.
They do not have the last Revelation of God.
They have their ego, their separation, their culture, and their
Even in each religion itself they have many
branches, many splits, and a lot of destructive tendencies in humans.
Now in these teachings we teach clearly what the ego is, how we
can get rid of it, and what the teachings of each religion are.
As we said many times, if humanity comes together
tonight and understands this teaching we will have peace tomorrow.
But they will not.
They are resisting.
have resisted the Prophets all through history.
When the Prophet comes and tells them the way of God
they say, “No, our ancestors are fine for us and we do not want anything
new to be added to what we already know.”
If what you already know is not correct, and it is not the last
Revelation of God, it is not the Book sealed with the Seven Seals that
is open now, then how are you still hanging onto your ancestors and what
you already know?
These are the things that humans are resisting.
Many religions have their misunderstandings and dogmas.
For example, Christianity says, “Christ was the Son
of God.” Then Moslems say,
“No, he was not.” If they
understood our explanation why each of them are correct, and if they
think about it and see that what we say both Christ and Prophet Mohammed
would have accepted as the truth, then Moslems and Christians would not
fight over it.
It is the healing power of this teaching that has
come to man and heals their separation and the destructive tendencies
that we see on earth. It
brings humanity together in a greater degree.
We have to create an environment also that everyone
will be treated fairly and they will receive their fair share of God’s
Bounty. They will start
respecting one another instead of separating and demonizing each
another, and justifying their actions that, killing the other people is
OK because they are not from our religions, they are not from our
culture, they are not following their God, and their God is better than
the other people’s God. All
these misunderstandings and destructive things have come together to
reach to a boiling point.
It has been prophesied by God that, “After the
Revelation of the Seventh Seal there is going to be a great
tribulation.” The world will
not come together, as eventually the Great Babylon, the worldly set up,
will come to a point of no followers.
People will see clearly that the man-made systems, the man-made
ways, will bring nothing but destruction.
All those leaders at this time that are trying to
create peace will eventually realize that no matter what they do, no
matter who is in charge, no matter who will try to bring peace, it will
not come. That is because
God said the only way to bring peace is God’s Way.
Now God’s Way has been given.
Are the leaders reading THOTH,
The Holiest Of the Holies?
Are they trying to create Communities of Light?
Are they trying to create the hierarchy that comes from the
Communities of Light, from the people, by the people, for the
people? They are not.
They will continue in their selfish and wrong ways until they
reach the point that eventually they realize that they have no choice.
Actually, you will realize that they have no choice.
It is a grass-roots movement when the people, when the Hindus,
and Buddhists, when the Jews and Christians, Moslems, and Baha’is, all
little by little understand, Yes, indeed there will be another
Revelation at the end time, they are all a part of it, and they let go
of their own understandings, their own opinions, but understand God’s
Way and Revelation. Little
by little they can become united and they can create the Communities
of Light. They can
create the hierarchy from the Communities of Light, eventually
bring the Kingdom of God on earth, and create an environment that
humanity will progress in an accelerated way toward unity with God.
They will also reach to space, and they will have
unlimited resources. Therefore they will not have to fight for the limited resources on
earth. With all these
fantastic revelations and understandings, humanity little by little will
come together, the unity will come, and the destructive tendencies will
be replaced with Godly attributes, understandings, and relationships.
The earth is really sick.
The earth is on the brink of self-destruction if God’s
intervention would not have come, if this Revelation had not been
revealed to humanity so they can see clearly that God has been sending
all these Revelations and now they can put them all together.
Our work is to reach out to every man and woman and
let them know this teaching and bring them to the realization that this
is the Word of God. The Koran
does not have all the revelation of God.
Even The Koran says that, “I did not reveal everything.”
How can it be the last book and revelation by God?
They say that Prophet Muhammad said that, “I
finished your religion.” Yes, he did.
Islam. He finished the
religion that God sent to them.
But he did not finish the Plan of God.
The Plan of God was still continued with three more
revelations that came after Prophet Muhammad.
Now it is done.
Prophet Muhammad never talked about the book of
The Revelation in the Bible.
He did not talk about the Seven Seals.
Prophet Muhammad was not the Lion of the Tribe of Judah.
He came from Ishmael, not from King David, and on and on.
That is what the Moslems have to understand.
The Christians say Christ said, “I am the only way.
No one goes to the Father but through me.”
So did Krishna.
did Prophet Muhammad. So did
all the Prophets of God say the same thing.
If they expand their understanding, they will
realize, “Yes, indeed, the Prophets of God are the way.
There is no way but them.
And no one goes to the Father but through them and their
revelations and their words.”
There is a question from Crest_line:
Buddhists have a god?
When Buddha came, as today in Hinduism, there were many gods.
Every household had a god.
Every community had a god.
People were asking, “What god are you presenting to us?”
Buddha just had enough
of all these gods and separation that it brought in the Hindu religion.
He said, “Do not worry about gods or God; just know thyself.
Meditate and progress in your understanding of who you are.”
He knew if they know themselves they would know who
God is. God is Formless,
Invisible, Nameless, and Eternal.
It is Everything and It is also within you, your Essence.
If you know your Essence, you know the true God.
If you do not know your Essence, then you take everything else as
God but the true God. You
will create many gods.
Therefore Buddha said, “Do not worry about God.
was because he just had enough of all those external gods that would not
take man to the true God, their Essence.
Many Buddhists concluded that Buddha did not believe
in God that he said, “There is no God.”
Of course he did not mean that.
He just meant to guide humanity to a greater understanding of
themselves and the true God that is within every man, woman, and child.
It is not that he did not believe in God.
It is not true that he said there is no God, but he said do not
worry about them.
Still, even in Buddhism
there are branches that do believe in God.
They acknowledge that God exists.
They do believe that there is God.
Buddha did believe in God but he believed in the
true God, and the goal of his life was to be(come) Divine or One with
the Nirvana, or Pure Consciousness, or Oneness.
Yes, indeed God exists in Buddhism.
Buddhists say they have no god.
That is what I was just answering you.
If you wait until I answer one of your questions and then type,
that would be easier. Or you
can take the mic and ask your questions one at a time.
That would be easier so we can go one question at a time.
There are branches in Buddhism even that believe in
God. Not all the Buddhists
believe that there is no God.
not asking about Hinduism.
Hinduism and Buddhism are very close.
Buddhism has come from Hinduism.
Buddha was a Hindu before he brought Buddhism.
He was a person, a seeker, and he followed Hinduism for a while.
He went to the mountains.
He became naked, ate bird food, and tried to realize God that
One day he heard a boatman saying, “If you want to
keep the boat from breaking away from the shore, you have to tie it just
correctly. If you tie it too
hard, it will break the rope and go away.
If you tie it too loosely, the knot will open and the boat will
again go to the current and will be taken away.
You have to tie it with a correct knot.”
Buddha realized that is what he was doing; he was
knotting his life too tight. From
then on he realized that he should ease up in his approach to God and he
became less ascetic and started living a little easier than he used to.
He eventually realized God in that way.
Actually his followers left him because he was not
following the way they thought he should.
He went by himself and eventually realized God.
He found a new people who realized him in a greater degree and
followed his teachings in truth.
We can see that even Buddha was a Hindu.
One person was saying that Buddhism is a Hinduism that is created
for the expert. That is
because really if you want to be Hindu, you have to be living in India
because you worship the river Ganges.
You have to go and bathe there, and be there, etc.
Buddhism took care of it and corrected that problem.
I hope I answered your question.
If you still have a follow-up, go ahead and type it or you can
have the mic as Open Eye is going to do.
ahead, Open Eye.
long as we speaking about Hinduism and Buddhism, I have a friend at
work. She is Hindu.
She says that Hindus in general do not preach or send leaflets,
and do not advertise their religion to attract followers.
Can you expand on that a little bit?
That probably is her opinion.
I have seen incense that says who made it on the back of the
package, and how to get in touch with them with the telephone number.
They do advertise about what they do.
Actually a lot of gurus, if you pick up one of the New Age
magazines, you will see they are advertising how to get in touch with
We have to use our own
understanding of the world and what the people do.
They can realize little by little that whatever the followers say
usually is not completely correct.
It is their ideas, opinions, or their way in their branches or
religions that they are in. We can see that is not completely correct.
Also this is the
new wine in the new skin, and preaching and reaching out and spreading
the Message of God and the new Revelation is permitted, as God always
said, “Reach out and spread My Message.”
All Prophets have done that.
Revelation the approach is education.
It is reading THOTH, understanding this Revelation
in a deeper level, and helping people to see the truth in a greater
Of course the
people have questions. At
the beginning when they come to the Mission they probably do not
understand all of it. But if
the questions become faultfinding, if a person is a faultfinder and
always looking for finding the faults in the perfection of God’s
Revelation, then the questions become cumbersome and the person who
keeps asking questions about the same thing over and over, and/or trying
to find faults in the teaching when they should have seen the Vision,
then they are not really concentrating on the Vision, on the Truth, but
they are trying to find faults.
You can find
faults in anything. You can
even find faults in God. Some people come and say, “Why did God create so much suffering?” when
He did not create suffering. It is the humans who go against His Will and therefore they suffer.
They say that suffering is God’s problem, and we blame Him for
the situations that we have created ourselves.
When someone asks
you a question, go to THOTH, go to our teachings; go to
the explanations that have already been given to humanity.
someone says Hinduism does not advertise or reach out, you say, “Is that
true, really? They do not?”
Then pick up a New Age magazine.
There are hundreds of gurus there saying, “Here I am.
Come to me.
I am the
only way,” this and that.
Then you have to
ask those gurus, “Have you fulfilled the prophecies?
Is your word based on the Word of God?
Is this really the last Revelation that has been prophesied by
God to come?” All the
questions that we have been discussing here and eventually come to the
conclusion; are they or are they not?
advertise? They sure do.
The traditional Hindus might not have done that but many other
branches in it, especially in the new movements, do.
It is just like
the Happy, Holy, and Healthy, the 3H people that advertise all over the
place. They try to attract
you to go and join them.
We can see this
way of thinking is the way of thinking of a disciple or a person who
thinks that way. It is their
opinion, but it is not completely true.
Crest_line is asking:
do Buddhists have a god?
guess I answered that very clearly.
Some of them say they do and some of them say Buddha said there
is no God. In truth he never
said that. He believed in
Hari-Krishnas preached in the 70s and 80s.
Yes, we know about the Hari-Krishnas.
Go ahead Crest_Line to see what is your question.
[Karl]: Well, back to
Buddhism. Buddhism seems to
be a most enlightened religion.
But most of the Buddhists I speak to do not have a God.
They have this kind of universal connectiveness amongst all
things and all people but there is no God, there is no Deity.
So is Buddhism a form of atheism?
And if so, why do you need a God?
Well, as I was answering your questions, that is not what Buddha said.
Yes, I know a lot of Buddhists say that there is no God in
Buddhism and they do not believe in God.
That is not what Buddha said.
Buddha said, “Do not worry about these gods,” because he just had
enough of Hinduism with all those gods and the separation that they had
created in the Hindu religions
He also had enough of the Brahmins that created a
layer between themselves, self-understanding, and realization.
Buddha was opposed to anything that is between you and, “Knowing
thyself.” He never said,
“There is no God,” he just said, “Do not worry about them, ‘Know
thyself.’” He never said
there is no God.
Buddhism is not a form of the atheist belief that
there is no God, but it is an enlightened answer from an enlightened
person to his disciples to take them away from their past that was
Hinduism to a new understanding that God is within you.
It is you.
no separation between you and God.
He did believe that your Essence is what is more
important. Therefore he did
believe in what you said, “Why do we need God?”
We need God because He
has prophesied that He will do things in the history, He created this
manifested world, he created humanity to accelerate their progress
toward returning back to the equilibrium, or Godhead.
He guided the history.
He promised Abram and Abraham many things, and He fulfilled them.
God said there were going to be Seven Revelations and
the last Revelation will explain all the mystery of God.
And He has.
little we have to realize that there is a greater Power that is guiding
our lives, this universe, history, man, and what is the way to respond
to this greater Intelligence or Guiding Light.
That is revealed in our Revelation and teachings.
God is not a statue.
God is not a name.
Any manifestation that has the attributes of the external world is not
the ultimate God. That is
why we believe that God is Formless, Invisible, Nameless, and Eternal:
FINE. That God is the
same God that Buddha was talking about, “Do not be attached to this
external world. Do not be
attached to the images, to names, to the things that bring humanity from
the greatest realization. Be
attached to the Essence that lives in you.”
That is what God is.
Atheists are going to ask you if there is God, prove
it to me. Of course they are
intellectuals. They want
everything to be explained to them, to be proven to them so they can
believe in it.
God is beyond intellect.
He is beyond mind and cannot be explained.
But if you meditate, if an atheist meditates for a long time,
eventually he might experience God.
That experience will not leave any doubt in his mind that indeed
It is not a matter of if we need God.
It is matter of there is a God.
We can say, do we need Him or not?
According to the history, according to our teaching that explains
that God promised many things, etc., we can see He did promise and He
fulfilled them. Therefore
If you want to believe
that there is no God, still you can benefit from our teachings, from the
creation of the Communities of Light and following the Eternal
Divine Path. Also in our
teachings you will see that God said He will do things in the future,
and He has done them. If
that is true then even atheists do not have any choice but to
intellectually at least believe there is a Higher Power that did promise
these things and fulfilled them.
It is just like you go to the room.
If there is a glass in the room and you come a couple of hours
later and you see that the glass moved from the place it was to another
location, you will assume there was someone in that room.
Someone came and moved the glass from one place to another place.
You did not see the person in the room but you can
prove it because the glass was moved.
There was some person in the room who moved the glass.
Exactly in our teaching
it says if God promised, if there were promises in the Scriptures and He
fulfilled those promises, there is a God.
Even atheists can understand that easily and start meditating,
start closing their eyes, going deeper inside within them, and see, “Yes
indeed. God exists.”
You are asking:
doesn't God stop the suffering on the earth?
you had known our teachings that question would have been answered for
you because God did not create us.
We have been a part of God, we are a part of God, and we will be
a part of God forever.
The equilibrium or the state of Beingness was
disturbed in the beginning. That is what the scientists call the Big Bang.
Because of that disturbance, a part of that equilibrium separated
itself from the universe and created the ego and separation that we are.
We are not created.
We have the free will.
Therefore because we have free will, and we fall to our desires,
to our wants, to our attachments, to the things that the external world
offers us and tempts us with, and we follow them, and with
misunderstanding, narrowness of the mind, and not realizing the Truth
that has been revealed by God, little by little the human has created so
many barriers and destructive tendencies that now they have created an
environment that we see so much suffering is going on.
Suffering is not created by God.
Suffering is created by man.
Suffering can be cured and taken away by man also.
The way has been given now how it can be done.
Also suffering is the very essence of creation.
The state we are at is not our natural state because our natural
state is being with God, being in Nirvana, being in Oneness.
But because we are not in that natural state, this
artificial state will create suffering because we are in an artificial
life and we are not in our natural way that is the ecstasy of being in
Spirit and One with the Essence.
Suffering is not created by God.
We have to learn our
lessons. We cannot stay like
children forever and wait for someone to come and do it for us.
We are the people who have created an environment, and we are the
people who can eliminate it by understanding our teachings.
There are a couple of questions on the board.
Let me see.
Bishaar Yare is asking:
about hell or doomsday?
Again, that is why we are asking everyone to go to our website and read
our teachings first. You
will understand and will see that hell and heaven, according to our
teaching, are states of mind.
They are not places that you will go to, as many people in many
Some people are
in heaven and/or hell right here and now. They do not have to die to go to hell and heaven.
Doomsday is the
end time. Again, according
to our teachings, there is one doomsday that is coming to man very soon.
We are approaching it very fast.
The way out is the Eternal Divine Path, our teachings, to
create the Communities of Light, and coming out of these
religions and human systems that are on earth.
Therefore you will not be affected with what is happening but you
will look at the Light that is coming.
You come together and create the environment that will bring the
understanding of God and His Ways and the Essence of God that is within
all of us.
If you really
want to understand your question, again you have to go to our website
and understand our teachings.
Then come here and we can discuss our teachings in a greater
There is no such
thing as hell that we will go to.
Crest Line is saying:
I do not desire illness.
do not desire a hurricane.
Well, the reason the illness comes is because there is imbalance in the
human body, imbalance in the environment, not good hygiene, and also
illness and the things that bring illness are a part of nature.
Nature only allows the strongest to survive.
Nature allows the healthiest to continue.
If it is not the strongest and the healthiest, there are devices
that have been created like disease to destroy the part that is not
healthy and strong. Therefore you become diseased.
At the old age when people do not have effectiveness
and their bodies are not strong enough, they eventually die.
No one desires death.
Some people do but most people do not.
Those are the natural ways of nature to control
weaknesses. It is just like
an elk that becomes injured most probably will be eaten by wolves.
That is the way of nature to clear or clean the weak and
therefore to let the strong become stronger.
That is a part of the evolutionary process that God has created
That is why they are there.
I know we do not desire but what we desire sometimes does not
ahead, Crest line.
You mentioned before that if I meditate, I would find God.
Well, I am an atheist.
I do not believe in God.
I have meditated.
have found peace, oneness on the planet.
But where is this God you speak of?
Is He supposed to come down and talk to me, am I supposed to hear
voices? Am I supposed to see
visions? Where is this God?
That God is within you.
have reached peace; that is good.
Keep deepening that peace.
God is you.
It is just like a
mirror going around and asking, “What is a mirror?
People talk about a mirror but I do not know what it is.
Please show me this mirror.
What is this mirror?”
It cannot know
what the mirror is until it eventually sees another mirror and the
mirrors look at each other and say, “Oh, that is what mirror is.
We both are mirrors and therefore we can see each other.”
That is the problem.
That is one of the greatest problems of humanity is that all of them are
going around asking, “Where is God?
Who is God?
God? Show me God.”
God already is
within you. God already is
peace. But your mind is
still an intellectual mind, is a questioning mind, and it is a searching
mind for explanation.
mind and intellectual mind is turbulent because it is asking questions
and wanting answers to the questions that cannot be answered.
God is not an explanation.
God is an experience.
You have not only to reach peace but you have to still your mind.
Your mind is like
a mirror. It is like a lake.
As long as you are asking questions, dropping stones in it, and
creating a lot of waves, God is like the moon up there breaking up to
millions of pieces. You
cannot see the moon because the mind is so turbulent.
When you eventually stop questioning in your meditation and start
just being still, then one day you might see the moon and say, “Hey,
this is me. God and I are
one. Even ‘I’ do not exist.
There is no me anymore but only God is there.”
Calm your mind.
It is not only reaching peace but calm your mind.
Go to our meditation room in PalTalk in this same category,
Universal Mantra Meditation, and learn how to meditate correctly and
eventually realize the stillness within.
Still your mind and one day you will see, “Yes, indeed, I was
looking for something that is already there.”
The answer to
your question is already within you.
I cannot explain it to you.
If you want me to explain to you God, if you want me to show you
God, I have already done it in the process of meditation that I have
given to humanity that will eventually take you to that experience.
When you have
experienced it, you will say, “OK great.
That is it.
I have no
questions left about God.”
If you have not
experienced God either you have a religion, dogmas, or you are still
looking for someone to show you God.
No one can.
to go and see and experience It.
[reading posts in text]
God here, yet. I am
to many, God is a "being."
do not talk about “according to many people.”
We talk about according to this Revelation and this teaching.
According to this teaching, God is your Essence.
God is Everything.
There is nothing that is not God.
We do not really have to look for God anywhere.
We can look at anything in the Universe and see that God is right
there. There is no
The only thing I can do for you is to show you the
Way to go to God. What you
can do is go ahead and follow the Way.
[reading text] God is not a being.
Oh I see you are talking about the God that is
sitting on His chair up there, is always angry, sending fire bolts, etc.
That is not the God we teach here.
There is no Being with the long beard sitting there and doing
those things. It is a God of
the nature, a God of the Essence that all things have been created with.
Crest_line is asking also:
I am one with the universe.
No God being here.
That is the ego speaking.
you were one with the universe then you would have known our teachings
in a greater degree and you would have been here joining us, preaching,
and creating Communities of Light.
There are many people who come to our rooms in PalTalk and say,
“I am God.”
We have no argument with that.
Of course you are with God and your Essence is the same as God.
Everyone in this room is a part of God.
Everyone in this room is a part of the universe.
You are not that unique.
You are unique when you eventually realize that you
have to help to bring the unit consciousnesses back to God.
Then you become unique.
You become an Elect, a person who puts his effort toward the
creation of the Communities of Light and the creation of the
Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth.
If you are one with the universe, that is God.
That universe is God.
And there is God.
If you are
looking for a specific thing as God, still you are not one with the
universe because you are still asking what you are already one with.
It sounds like believing, “I am one with the
universe,” is just an intellectual tease for a lot of people.
They say it with the words but they are not one with it yet.
If you really want to be one with the universe, then
you will be humble. You will
see that not only you are one with the universe but everyone else is
also one with the universe, and that humility shows that you are one
with God and the universe, and your questions are all answered.
who is the humblest is the greatest in God.
do not know. Ask people who
know me if I am humble or not. That
is not the question. The
question is that those who will experience God will have no choice but
to do the Will of God. The
Will of God is to bring the Kingdom of God on earth.
Therefore we will see that humility will come from them by
understanding that everyone is God.
That is the humility.
That is the humbleness.
That is what a lot of these people who come and say,
“We are God,” and all that, do not have.
They do not have that Spirit of God that will bring the Beauty of
God to man, that oneness and compassion that they should manifest.
A lot of these people who say they are God really do not have
that compassion. They have
If you are one with the universe you will experience
the suffering of the other people in a greater degree.
You would be helping them.
You would be trying to create an environment that will help
I have been there.
I know how it feels.
The first time I was told that I am God it felt so good, “ I am God.”
Then I started realizing, I did not create this universe.
I did not send the Prophets.
I did not send the Revelations of God.
How can I be God?
Then I realized, yes, I am a part of God.
The Essence of God is in me.
The only way I can be God is if I am One with God, if I manifest
God’s qualities, not a big ego.
God does not have a big ego.
God does not have any ego actually.
If He had ego He would be in the body.
Therefore I realized, “Yes, I am in the Essence of
God. I can be god, but I
have to manifest God’s qualities.”
God’s qualities are compassion, love, understanding, Oneness,
creation of the Communities of Light, etc.
God is not a word.
God is not something that I can say I am, and I will become It.
God is an experience.
A lot of people again in this way need help.
They realize they can claim they are God only when they are one
with God, experience God, and they can manifest God’s qualities.
If they cannot do that, then it is an ego speaking.
Actually when you are with God you no longer have to
claim you are a part of God, or one with God or the universe.
Other people will see that through you and they will claim, “He
is with God. God is with
You can see even atheists and those people who
believe they are God are in a wrong intellectual understanding of God.
They have to overcome that part.
ahead Crest Line.
Well, you mentioned being humble as being an important thing.
Well, I do not have a Crest Line website and Crest Line
followers. You have the Maitreya website and the
How can we be humble and yet share with people, wake them up, and
discuss these things? Humble
people sit alone on the mountaintop.
People with great egos have websites and followers.
This is a contradiction.
really. There is no
contradiction at all. You
are talking about being poor in spirit and doing the Will of God.
These are two different things.
You think the humble person goes to the top of the
mountains, he just meditates, and he never does anything.
Actually that is what our teaching is opposing.
You can be humble but at the same time be effective and reach out
to humanity, especially if you have a Message from God.
It is just like the United States is sending an
ambassador to Russia. The
ambassador says, “Well, I am really humble and do not want to show that
I am the ambassador of the United States to Russia.”
That is a big ego:
am so important that I am the ambassador.
I have a message for the Russian people and I am going to just go
and get a room in Moscow, live there, and never approach the Russian
That is not humility.
That is being poor in spirit, not being able to be effective for
what you have been chosen to do.
But if he goes and gives the message to the Russian
government and says, “This is my government.
This is the message that I have for you.”
He is not attached that he is an ambassador.
He understands that his work is to give the message.
That is humility.
is not saying, “Oh, look at me.
I am a big ego.
the ambassador of the United States.
Everyone bow down in front of me.”
He says, “I have a message.
Here is the message to the Russian government from my government.
This is the message.
I am done.”
humility. That is
And that is exactly what we have done.
We have created the website.
We have created the Mission of Maitreya organization.
Those who have seen the Vision have joined me as co-workers
together, and they try to understand God and His Ways.
I am not saying that everyone in the
who has joined does not have ego.
If they did not have ego, that would have been great.
That is why I am looking for actually, the people who do not have
ego and they are absolutely pure channels for God’s Revelation and will
give it to others. If they
are seeking to have a website for themselves so to glorify themselves,
then they are on an ego trip.
We here do not glorify men at all.
We glorify only God.
I am a Messenger of God, and I am giving this Message to you.
Absolutely I am out of the way.
It is between you and God.
That is what the whole Mission is all about.
I am not here to be worshipped.
Actually I try to discourage anyone who tries to worship me
because I will die, but my Spirit, which is God, will live on.
Be attached to that Spirit.
Do not be nasty to me.
is not good either. Do not
go in two different directions but be good, be humble, be nice.
At the same time let us work together and realize that this is
God’s Revelation. The
Message is more important than the messenger.
If that ambassador gives the message, he is a good messenger.
If he goes to Russia and says, “Everyone bow unto me.
But I am not going to give you the message,” then he is in the
way and he has to be removed.
So another ambassador has to be sent.
We need to be effective.
need to reach out. Especially it is the Revelation from God.
Why did God give this Revelation to humanity?
If I kept it to myself and stayed in one room, then the hundreds
and thousands of people who know about the website and this Message
would not have known about it.
God chooses from those who have the ability to spread the Message to
humanity. They are doing it
because they are Messengers of God.
There is no ego involved but absolute effectiveness for humanity.
You have to overcome your opinions, ideas, and understand what this
Mission and teaching is.
The more you become involved with the Mission, the more you are
involved with the teachings, the greater you will see the Vision and you
will realize that this Mission connects you to God.
You say there is no God but we show you the way to experience God.
After you experience God, then God will tell you, “This is the
Vision of God.” Therefore
you will continue helping this Vision to manifest.
you the Maitreya of Share International or another?
In 1982 Mr. Crème predicted that
Maitreya would announce his
presence on earth in the spring of that year.
Indeed he was inspired to do that.
The spring of 1982 was the time that we put the ads in the
newspapers. We reached out
to humanity, and we announced that Maitreya is on earth.
Mr. Crème is still waiting for someone to come from the Himalayas.
He teaches many things that are not based on the Word of God and
Scriptures. He is still
waiting for that to happen.
Prophets of God
never have come the way Mr. Crème said his Maitreya would come.
Therefore he did not recognize when Maitreya came and
announced the Revelation of God at the exact time that he predicted him
We can see a parallel
situation in history. John
the Baptist came and announced the coming of Christ.
When Christ came, John the Baptist did not recognize him.
He did not realize the Christ was the one that John the Baptist
was waiting for. This is the
John the Baptist
had his own ideas. He
thought Christ should come the way he thought he should come.
But Christ came differently and John the Baptist did not
recognize him. Eventually he
sent even his followers asking Christ, “Are you the one that we are
We can see
exactly it is happening to Mr. Crème.
He, as a harbinger of the coming of Maitreya, took ads in
all the major cities in the world and announced that Maitreya is
the Christ. We never even
claimed that. That claim
came from him.
After that Mr.
Creme could not find his Maitreya.
He still has not found “him.”
And anyway he will not find “him.”
He is wasting his time and many other people’s time with
something that will not happen.
Are we the one
that Share International predicted to come?
We believe God inspired him to announce the time of our outreach.
Or are we the person that he expects, the way he expected?
why the separation still exists between them and us.
We are hoping his
followers eventually, little by little, will realize that what he said
is not going to happen. His
teaching is not based on the Word of God.
God never said
someone would come from the Himalayas who will build his body for 2,500
years. God’s Way is always:
His Prophets are born from a woman and they stay as a regular
human until the teaching or the revelation is revealed to them, and then
they reach to humanity effectively and spread their message.
The conclusion should be yours to make to believe in Mr. Crème and
continue with him or eventually realize that, “Yes, he did say the time
of the coming the Seventh Angel but he does not have all the answers,
and he made mistakes.”
Share International has pictures of their Maitreya.
Are those pictures you?
I think you are saying no.
Well, if you look at the pictures it looks like me when I was young.
I have a picture from 1982 which is on the website.
But was I in that place that they claim that he was?
Really it is not that important.
The most important thing is that they have not manifested
anything externally as what they claim.
Therefore they have to recognize that it is not there.
If such a person exists and is in the Pakistani
group in London, they should have provided him to humanity.
If he is not there, they are just wasting their time.
Even is such a person existed and they would have
brought him to humanity, if he teaches the same thing as Mr. Crème
teaches then again humanity has to think twice about accepting him as
the Prophet of God. If he
comes the way that Mr. Crème says he will come that again is not
according to the Scriptures that God has always chosen his Prophets from
a man who is born from a woman, and he will eventually recognize his
mission. You have a lot of
questions to ask before accepting anyone as the Prophet of God, the
Revealer of the Seven Seals, the last Revelation of God, and the coming
of His Kingdom.
We have not seen Mr. Crème to manifest anyone.
He has been telling his followers, “Any time now.”
I do not think that “any time” is going to come.
Mr. Crème is the one who has to recognize these things clearly and
eventually give up his own understanding, come to the Scriptures and
God’s Understanding, and become one of the guided ones.
There is a rift there between Share International and us.
Actually if they understand our teachings and see clearly how
that unity that they long for will
come through our teachings, they will have no choice and will say, “Yes
indeed, that is the way to go.”
If you are one of the people who follow Share
International, give our message to him.
Actually, many people have, but they have not responded.
Go talk to Mr. Crème himself, to his followers, and to his
organization. Tell him it is
not going to happen the way he said.
Tell them at least to consider our teachings.
Read what has been said, how the prophecies are fulfilled, and it
is based on the Scriptures of God.
Maybe not all of them, maybe some of them will be
guided to see this truth clearly and eventually give up in the fancy
imagination of something that historically never happened, and is not
God’s Way. And it will not
The conclusion is that there is something wrong with
Share International and their understanding, and Mr. Crème’s preaching.
Therefore it has to be exposed, understood, and eventually we all
choose the correct Maitreya, the correct Revealer of the last
Revelation of God and the coming of the Kingdom.
We do not want to struggle with anyone.
We do not want to be negative toward anyone.
We do not oppose any organization or people but we seek the
We have to say the truth.
These are the truths about Share International and Mr. Crème.
We are hoping that one day he, or at least his followers, will
see these teachings and Revelation clearly, and they will come back to
the Word of God instead of the word of man or imaginary explanations.
I have no problem to have a discussion, to have a
place that we can all come together and discuss things with Mr. Crème
and his followers. They are
always welcome to our room.
Actually everyone is welcome here to discuss with us
things about their teachings, their religions, and their understandings.
But come with the humility of discussion, understanding,
progress, and realization instead of who is right or who is wrong.
That approach of, “I am right, you are wrong,” of
course, will not be a discussion.
It will be a struggle between the two groups.
But coming and being open to the truth, then we can discuss
things clearly with one another and come to the conclusion, “Who is the
correct Revealer of the Seven Seals?
Whose teaching is based on the Word of God?
Who has brought the Plan of God and revealed what has been sealed
and hidden from even great Prophets like Daniel?”
Little by little you understand, “This is it.
This is the one that all humanity longs to see and now it is
BakahNavi is asking:
I just note that there are two groups stating a Maitreya is here.
I want to know if there are two Maitreya's or one.
You had indicated three angels.
There are not only two Maitreyas on earth, there are many, many
Maitreyas on earth. I know
probably around eight or nine of them.
I have even received e-mails from them asking me to accept them
as the one, not me, but they.
I have asked them if they have fulfilled the prophecies, opened
the Seven Seals, are they the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, is God behind
them and their words are based on the Scriptures?
I have never received a clear answer, or there was no answer at
We have to ask these questions from every person who
claims he is from God. Scriptures clearly say that there is only one person who will come at
the end time as the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, will open the Seventh
Seal, and will reveal the Book sealed with the Seven Seals to humanity.
There is only one for sure based on the Words of God.
There are not two, three, ten, a hundred, or whatever.
There are many people out there that claim to be
They claim to
be the Christ. They claim to
be the son of God, and on and on.
The criteria to know them have been given clearly:
Have they fulfilled the prophecies?
Are they the Lion of the Tribe of Judah?
Have they revealed the Words of God exactly as the Scriptures
It is clearly given to you to test the Spirit of the
claim, then come to the conclusion, which one is the correct one?
There is only one Maitreya, not two.
You said that I have mentioned three angels.
Those three angels are Gabriel, Lucifer, and Michael.
There are three forces in the universe that God calls angels, or
powers that God works with.
Gabriel is the satva guna, is the freeing energy,
the loosening energy in the universe, the intelligence in the universe,
the guiding light in the universe.
That is why the Spirit of God, The Holy Ghost, Gabriel, is known
as the revealer of the revelation to the Prophets.
That is what Prophet Muhammad saw when he first received his
God chooses the different ways to reveal the
revelation to the Prophets according to where that Prophet is.
If God had not revealed Gabriel to Prophet Muhammad as the
revealer, he probably never would have started his mission.
When Prophet Muhammad saw the vision he said, “I saw
angel Gabriel.” What he saw
was what he needed to see so he would start his mission.
Gabriel is The Holy Ghost, the Spirit of God.
He brings the revelation to the revealer and the Prophet.
There is Michael.
He is the raja guna or the energy in the universe that makes
everything move, the ability to have the energy to do the things we do.
If there were no energy nothing would have moved in the universe
and it would stay exactly where they were.
Nothing would have been accomplished at all.
That is why we always see that Michael has been depicted as a
warrior with the sword, energetic, and involved with the ungodly and the
The last one, Lucifer, is known as the shining star.
It is the tama guna or crudifying force.
The whole universe is created by that force.
That manifestation without the tama guna would not have been
Also because it crudifies the universe, it makes the
mind to become more and more flesh.
A lot of people fall for the temptation of this external world.
Lucifer is also known as the devil, or the fallen
angel. He was in heaven.
He was a part of God but because of the disturbance in the
equilibrium in the beginning of the creation, a part of God was
separated from the original Essence.
The first feeling was, “I know,” which is satva
guna. The second was, “I
do,” which is raja guna, or the mutative force.
The third was, “I have done,” memory.
Ego was created at that stage, and Lucifer became the fallen
angel that separated the part that was separated from the Essence.
Therefore it became the devil.
Still it tempts humanity.
It crudifies the mind.
It makes people to fall for the external world, they do not want
to share, they become selfish, and the shining star became the devil
These are the three angels that we mentioned in our
teachings. It has nothing to
do with Maitreyas, or the Messiah, or the Savior, or the Revealer, or
the last Revelation of God. That will be accomplished with only one person, not two, not three,
none. Only one person who
God will choose, has prophesied to come for thousand of years, will be
the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, will open the Seventh Seal, will open
the Book sealed with the Seven Seals, and will Reveal it to humanity.
Do not look for two or three or any, but prove it to
yourself that our claim is true.
If you prove it to yourself then it is your understanding.
If you decide it is not, our claim is empty, run, and do not stay
around. But if it is true
then that is the only way to go.
If it is true, then God said this is going to
happen, and His Kingdom is only going to come through this Revelation
and these teachings, no other one.
Therefore everything out there beside this one is incorrect,
false, and will not lead you to God because God prophesied of this
If it is not from God than I will leave it alone
with you. I will come with
you and will say, “Forget about it.
I want to know what God said.”
That is because that is the ultimate victory, being with God.
If it is not with God then it surely is a loser.
This will be the last question I will answer today
Did I understand correctly that you claim to be one of the angels sent
to reveal one portion of revelation, and that several angels are needed
for the complete revelation to be understood?
You misunderstood me.
I hope you understand English OK.
If you do not, it is all right.
This explanation will be posted in our website in a couple of
hours and you can go to our website, download this, and listen to it
over and over again.
is, No. This is it.
This is the last Revelation of God, and you do not need another
Prophets also are referred to as Angels in the book of Revelation in the
That is why
they are called Seven Angels.
Not as three angels that I explained to you as Gabriel, Michael,
and Lucifer, but as the angels that bring the Revelation
God. They are the Mouthpiece
of God and the revealer of the Revelation to humanity.
In one sense you can see they are angels because they are the Mouthpiece
of God. The Mouthpiece of
God is The Holy Ghost. The
Holy Ghost brings the revelation.
Gabriel is The Holy Ghost therefore they represent Gabriel and
they are angels in that sense.
Also they are
human. They are men.
They are regular people when they are not connected to God.
Therefore there are two states in every Prophet, as a man and as a
revealer of the revelation, or The Holy Ghost.
You can say that the Prophets are
representing Gabriel and they are the same as Gabriel, an angel, and they are
We do not need
any other angels to come. There might be some other Prophets come from God to humanity, not Major
Manifestations anymore, but Prophets that might bring back some parts of
this Revelation which might have been forgotten or misrepresented, bring
more emphasis to them, and guide humanity to understanding this
Revelation in a greater degree because every word in our Revelation you
can write 1,000 books about.
It is not an
easy Revelation to understand.
It is vast, and it covers so many different aspects of human
life. Therefore it is not an
easy thing to do. There
might be some Prophet but not any more Major Manifestations for 1,000
answer to your question is, No.
That is it.
the last Revelation of God. Prove it to yourself, and I hope that you will see the Vision clearly.
Thank you for the clarification.
I'm referring to teachings from about three weeks ago.
I again leave all of
you to God. Be with God.
Meditate on these teachings.
Download the tape.
Listen to it again and again and again, and other tapes.
Hopefully you all will see this truth clearly and will reveal it
to all on earth.
Be with God, and God Bless.