Sal-OM and welcome to the
Mission of Maitreya’s
Conversation Room. We hope
this outlet, this room, the PalTalk, our outreach from this channel will
attract more and more people.
Also the people who come to this room and hear it will understand
that God has finished His Revelation at this time.
God said, “Let there
be light: and there was
light. And God saw the
light, that it was good:…” This time is when the light has to go back to God, many of them.
Many small lights, as human beings, are called to return home.
The last 12,000 years
have been a history and a lesson for humanity.
God clearly said that at this time many people will be awakened
to their higher level of understanding what these 12,000 years have
been, why creation has been created, and what is the goal of life.
We are the messengers of this Revelation to humanity, and we are
the ones that have to make them to see the straight Path, the straight
way out of this chaos they have been in.
We have great responsibility to reach out and spread this
The purpose of
this room is to come here and ask questions about our teachings.
But first you have to go to our website, come to our room All
Religions Unified during the week, learn about our teachings as much as
you could, and then come to this room, discuss this new Revelation, and
see why this Revelation has been prophesied to come and it is so
important to come. It is
because this is the only Revelation that shows the unity of all
religions and why no religion is the final religion until the Seventh
Now this Seventh
Revelation has been revealed.
Now man can know what is the Will of God.
The Will of God is to follow the Eternal Divine Path.
It is the Seven Step Path that has been revealed to humanity as
different religions. Each
religion has a specific message.
When we see the whole picture, we see there is no separation
between religions but they are all one.
They show a Path, a Way, and therefore we do not have to fight
with each other. We all have
to learn to follow the Eternal Divine Path, create the Communities of Light, and bring the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth, or
bring the Kingdom of God to humanity and accelerate human progress to go
The way is shown how
to bring the Kingdom, how to go away from the destructive force that is
gripping humanity and the earth in a greater degree.
Not only is there this destructive tendency but also we have the
ability to destroy the whole human race and the whole earth all
If the human
wants to stop this madness, this is the Way.
The Way is to come together and understand there is a God.
There is only One God.
He is Formless, Invisible, Nameless, and Eternal.
All have this God within us.
We cannot separate one from the other because we are all His
We have to realize
this, start being kind, bring the oneness to ourselves, stop any
preaching, any teaching, any destructive tendency that is in the human
lower nature, and pull them up to their higher nature and the
realization that destructive tendencies eventually will engulf those who
have those tendencies.
have always had wars for at least the last 6,000 years.
If they do not stop, and follow God’s Will that has been revealed
through this Mission and through this Revelation, they will
destroy themselves. There is
no human war that will be the last war.
Therefore their salvation is to come and see that the only way
out is the Word of God that has been promised to come at this time.
Our work is great and
we have to reach any way we possibly could to educate humanity to see
their way out of this mess that they have made.
The human lower nature is great, huge, and the power of Maya,
their culture, belief, and the dogmas that they follow will not let them
let go of what they know.
They come and say,
“We have been following this teaching for thousands of years.
How come suddenly someone comes and says it is not good anymore?”
That has been all
through history. Humanity
has always been following different beliefs and religions, and then a
greater revelation comes from God and those who have been following
their traditions, their ancestors, their beliefs, realize this is much
better than what they had. Eventually they give up their understanding, their religion, and their
culture for a greater revelation from God.
That is what we are calling for humanity to do.
It is not easy because everyone is culturally oriented to love
what they have.
Now they have to grow
up. Anytime there is growing
up to do there are growing pains.
We have to accept that.
But at the end there is going to be the light.
There is a light at the end of the tunnel.
At the end of the tunnel when you reach the light, all will be
Humanity is called
again to forego their understandings, forego their religions, forego
their cultures, and forego what they know to a new understanding.
Never in the history of humanity has the opportunity been given
that the person who originally brought the Revelation would be able to
talk to the whole earth. Everyone can bring their questions, come here and discuss them, and see
which one has the greater truth.
That is what this
room is for, it is for you to study, learn our teachings, and then come
and ask questions about what this teaching is all about.
If you have any problem with any part of this Revelation, bring
it here and let us discuss God’s Work in a greater degree so we will all
become proficient in understanding this teaching, which is amazingly
perfect. Each part fits
another part just like a puzzle.
When you put the whole puzzle together, you have a tapestry of
That perfection is
where God wants us to go. We
have the ability to become perfect as the Father in Heaven.
I know there are many humans that do not believe that.
They believe they are made in their lower natures.
They are here to eat, drink, make children, and die.
That is all related to the lower nature of man.
Man has been created
to go to the higher level, or the higher nature, and become gods, become
the Children of God. Many
religions have forgotten that and pushed man as low as possible to such
a way that some people, when we are telling them they are the Children
of God, or they can become god, cannot believe it.
They say, “No, God is God and we are little creatures created by
God. We do not have the
They do not know
their rights. They do not
know that they have great rights, and their rights should be preserved
and believed in. If
humanity, each individual, believed that they have the right of freedom
that the individual in the society and community makes the society and
community to accept those rights, they would have the rights, not the
dictators or those who have bound them by creating an environment that
the individuals do not even believe that they have rights.
They think that it is their leaders who have the rights.
Who gave their
leaders rights? Individuals
gave them rights by foregoing their own rights.
By understanding this, they can free themselves from the bondages
that they are in. It is the
healing power of this Mission and realization for man to pull
themselves out of believing they are nothing, they are nobody, or they
are created as small individuals.
You are a part of God.
God and you have the same Essence, and you are here to create an
environment that everyone progresses toward God in an accelerated way.
The way is the Communities of Light, realizing that all
religions of the world have been sent by One God, and when you put all
of them together you see the whole picture.
here and discuss these things with us in a good manner, with
intelligence and the ability to discuss without becoming emotional or
letting your beliefs and understanding get in the way.
If you can come and discuss articulately and nicely, then we can
prove to you that God has the Revelation, now He has sent it to
humanity, and you can see your religion and your belief is a part of a
When you see that,
you no longer will have one religion but the whole truth of God.
That will free you from any bondage.
Eventually when a percentage of humanity sees this truth, the
critical point will be reached and they will come together as brothers
and sisters. They no longer
will have all these destructive tendencies that now we have on earth.
Again the purpose of
this room is to come and ask your questions if you have any, about our
teachings. To know the base
of what we teach, go to our website www.maitreya.org and study there.
If you have any questions about anything about our teachings, you
are welcome to raise your hand and ask your questions, or type them in
the text, and we will answer your questions.
The base of the
teaching is the Revelation of the Seven Seals and the unity of all
religions in the world. The
way is education. The way is
the creation of the Communities of Light, becoming engaged in
God’s Work. This Call is for
you to come and see this truth, and eventually, hopefully, become
involved with the Mission.
It is not a weekly gathering together like a church, coming for
two hours, and then leaving, and during the week do nothing about it.
As long as you
are not convinced, that is fine.
But when it comes to a point that you are convinced that this is
the Revelation from God, the next step is to truly become involved.
Start doing something.
It does not matter how small it is.
Teach a class.
out to your family, to your friends, to your neighborhood, to your city,
to your country, to your continent, and to the whole earth.
It depends upon your capacity and ability.
is because belief without action is not going to grow very fast, and it
might even die. But with
acting and being involved with it, our progress surely will be
accelerated. If you have any
doubts that it is the last Revelation of God, that is another story.
You should search.
You have to study our teachings on a deeper level and ask questions,
“knock,” and then eventually come to the conclusion, indeed it is.
Or come to the conclusion it is not.
You have the choice.
You have the free will to make that kind of decision.
Some people see the teaching once, and they understand, “Yes,
that makes sense.”
I guess we have a
question from Cefas. He is
Maya a force coming from God, so that we all make the real effort to
conquer or to overcome that Maya and to become (to be) Divine?
If you study our teachings, you will understand that Maya is the
power of the tama guna, is the crudifying force in the universe that
eventually finished the feeling of “I know,” “I do,” and “I have done,”
or ego. When ego evolved,
the unit consciousnesses became self-centered and he separated himself
from the Essence that he was.
He thought he was God.
He was separated, not one with God, and therefore the external
world became the reality. The external world is not our natural state of being.
Our natural state of being is being One with God, being our
Essence. The unit
consciousness lost its connection to its own Essence, and the external
world became the reality to them.
That is really what
Maya is. Maya means the
separation from God. It is
the illusion actually of the separation from God because you are not
really separated from God ever.
We are always connected to God even when we do not feel we are
connected. God is with us.
How can He not be?
are One already.
Maya is that illusion
or delusion that humanity has of being separated from God.
Really it has not been created but it is something that is in the
Essence of creation, in the Essence of being separate from God from the
beginning when there was chaos.
in the beginning, God does not say that God created the chaos.
God said there was chaos.
Apparently He did not want the chaos to be there.
Maya is that illusion of separation that brings that chaos.
Why do we have so
many wars, destruction, and unhappiness on earth?
It is because we are all in delusion of separation from God.
We do not see that when we shoot someone in the war and kill him
or her, actually it is a part of us.
We try to sterilize and desensitize and make the war not look as
ugly as possible. We try not
to let the very bad part of the war to seep into the consciousness of
the humans by not really reporting exactly what happens.
Those who are in the
war usually change. They are
no longer regular humans because they become dehumanized.
Those who are sensitive do not want to do it any more.
Those who are not sensitive become sadistic, or people who cannot
stop killing; they become miserable and the people who have absolutely
lost their human part.
Probably it is not a
bad idea to let the whole of humanity to see exactly what war is by
showing it on television. Show them exactly how destructive and appalling it is instead of making
it look glorified.
The reason is,
separation from God. We do
not know that we cannot kill one another.
God said, “Thou shall not murder; thou shall not kill.”
God said a lot of
things. He also said, “Do
not have any God besides Me.”
Still people have a lot of gods besides Him.
“Do not do adultery.”
A lot do adultery.
Apparently the human does not want to listen to God.
We can see that the human tendency is not to listen to God.
We have to listen to
God now. We have to decide
in our life, each of us that, “Yes, I am going to follow God.”
Then you will see how free you become, how effective you become.
As long as we do not follow those things we think we are doing
OK. But if you start
following them, a lot of people become unhappy about that because you
are not doing the things that they do.
They tell you, “How
come? Are you having any fun
in your life by not going against God’s Word?”
It sounds like you are not having any fun if you follow God’s
Words, which is not true.
That is what God
said, you have to follow God’s Words and then see the affect of them in
your life. Then you see, you
are freer, you are stronger, and you are more powerful to preach the
Word of God. That is the
There is a truth in
going against the Words of God, it separates you from God more and more.
Follow His Words and become them, and that makes you to be closer
to Him more and more. Then
you do not need anything else or anyone else.
At the end time, at
the time of death, you cannot take your family, your possessions, your
friends, or anything with you.
The only place you might be able to go is to God.
Being attached to anything else that you cannot take with you or
be with is not an intelligent thing to do.
But at the time of death when you leave your body, if you have
followed God’s Words and become Pure, you will go to Pure Consciousness.
Then you are going to be with God.
Being attached to
anything else in this earth but God is equal with being in delusion,
being in Maya. Maya is very
powerful. You can see
right now in these few sentences how powerful Maya is.
Even those who believe they are Godly and want God still are
attached to their parents, are attached to their wives, their husbands,
their children, and their possessions, instead of being attached to God
This is the time for
humanity to learn this lesson:
Nothing is permanent in this world but the Essence, God.
Why do you want to be attached to something that is not
permanent, and not be attached to something that is permanent?
That permanency is the only way for salvation.
To create an environment that more people are attached to the
permanency is the Communities of Light.
In your meditation
you face your attachments.
Meditate on your attachments.
That is what our meditation process is.
We do not say forget about everything.
We say actually, meditate on your desires, your attachments, and
your wants. Go through them.
“I am attached to my parents.
I cannot just overcome and go to God.”
OK. “It is time for me to leave my body.
Am I going to take my parents with me?”
I am not saying be rude or do not respect them.
You have to respect them.
seeing that you are not going to take any of that with you and you are
going to face God only, at the end then you will say, “Well, God is
number One.” You overcome
any attachment to this world.
As I said, meditation
is a process of overcoming. Meditation is to face yourself squarely and that is the scariest thing
to do, to face yourself squarely.
can see right there Maya.
want a lot, but God does not give it to me.
“I want a
lot but God does not give it to me.”
Is that the goal of the life?
The goal of the life is to have things?
Does God say that the goal of the life is to have a lot of
material things, wants, and desires?
seems the questioner is very sincere that, that is the goal of the life.
It is not only you, BooBoo, that wants this.
Everyone, almost every individual, wants to have a lot of things
but they are not receiving them.
They blame God for it.
Actually God made the resources limited on earth so the human will
eventually realize that they are not going to receive everything they
want. Not all the material
things will be fulfilled.
Those who do not have much, think about God more than those who have
much. Why do you want to
become rich and have so much if Christ said, “It is harder for a rich
man to go to God than for a camel to go through the eye of a needle?”
You see, this is how Maya works.
We believe that what we want or we desire is the truth.
God says a different thing.
You have to share.
You have to come together, create the Communities of Light, not
longing for me and my desires to be fulfilled, but longing to create an
environment that everyone accelerates their progress in a greater
degree. This message is
going to become very hard for humanity to see, and give up what they
want. But replace that with
the Will of God. The Will of
God is absolutely clear.
You have to be chosen, you have to be meditating for many lifetimes.
You have to really progress to a point that you say, “I do not
want these material things. I want God.”
becomes the goal for you and in your life.
do not say that material things are bad.
But they should not become your god.
We do not say that your family is bad.
But they should not become your god.
We do not say that your husband, your children are bad, but they
should not become your god.
The hierarchy of the beings is:
God first; your spiritual teacher who takes you to God, second;
your parents, third; and your spouse, fourth.
Those are the four beings in your life that you have to accept as
the hierarchy of beings that you relate to.
It is all in our teachings and THOTH.
It is explained clearly.
Besides these four people, even your children are not yours.
When they are grown up they are going to fly away from the nest
and go have their own way. We can see that Maya indeed is powerful, is very strong.
You are right, Maya is a way that eventually humanity will reach a point
to say, “I am not satisfied no matter what I do.”
As we explained many times, you have one car; you want two cars.
You have two cars; you want a Rolls Royce.
You have a Rolls Royce; some people even want to have
seventy-five, eighty Rolls Royces.
I do not know why they need that many Rolls Royces.
If you have one or two, that is enough.
Then you want an airplane.
You want a yacht.
Was Onasis happy?
He had the
biggest shipping fleet in the world.
But he had to marry Kennedy’s wife because he wanted also to be
famous. He was not as famous
as she was.
See, you are never going to be happy no matter how much you have.
Being rich, having all those material things, is not going to
make you happy.
Actually I have seen the happiest person in a small village.
And he did not even have any teeth; he had one or two of them
left in his mouth. He was
laughing just absolutely with no care in the whole world.
You can see yuppies with a lot of money and everything.
But they are not happy.
smoke. They are not happy
people. “What happened?
You became a yuppie, you should be happy.
You are not.”
Everything for the human is upside down.
Maya, as you said, is strong.
But that yuppie or the person who has those things and is not
happy eventually one day realizes, “This is not giving me happiness.”
The happiness is within you.
Nothing external will make you happy.
whatsoever. Eventually Maya
will lead you to this realization and God, and you overcome longing for
something that is not within you, and is out there.
have a question from Braindead.
I hope that is not really true.
But does living in abject poverty make you happy?
not. That is a part of our
teachings, that your physiological and safety needs are important.
That is why we teach the Communities of Light.
the Communities of Light there are six couples that will live
together as a unit in the Communities of Light.
The whole idea is of sharing and creating an environment that
everyone has his or her physiological and safety needs taken care of.
Those are two basic needs of humanity.
If you do not have those basic needs taken care of, you will not
be able to even meditate. Those two basic needs in our teachings are paramount to be provided for
every man, woman, and child.
is not only not being poor but also being safe.
If you do not have anything to eat or something to drink for a
long time, you die. If you
do not have a safe environment, then the unsafe environment does not let
you sit and meditate and realize God.
The physiological and safety needs are considered in the
They can be provided much easier in the Communities of Light.
In the Communities of Light everyone will have enough to
eat and enough time to sleep.
We believe that when we bring the peace on earth, the security
will increase. People will
not be afraid.
Also the politicians and the people who use fear to take away the rights
of the individuals will not be able to do that since there will be no
because there is no fear, the power and
the rights of the individuals will be returned to them
because they are not afraid of any
I can make you so fearful that you are willing to give all your rights
to me so you will be safe, then after a while I am having all your
rights. Your rights are
going to become my rights, and your rights are not going to be there
any more. When the Kingdom
comes on earth, then there will be no fear and the people will know
their rights and will not give them up easily.
See, this teaching and this Revelation has considered all levels.
It brings the unity and healing to humanity.
It brings peace and prosperity to every man, woman, and child and
will free them from all the bondages that ego, Maya, dogmas, fears, and
insecurities have created on earth.
Therefore indeed we do consider the physiological and safety needs in
this Mission. You are
correct; they are important.
When we say do not be attached to the external world and what it offers,
it does not mean to completely drop everything, go to the mountains, and
forget about the society. That is not our teaching at all.
Our teaching is to stay in society and become a productive part
Actually we encourage everyone in the
Mission to have a job, to
have an income, to have the ability to support themselves physically and
from the security point of view.
We are not preaching here to become poor, not at all.
But also do not be attached to the external world, the things
that they offer in the world.
I notice you wear glasses
The first thing is, Christ healed the blind.
I don't think he really needed to wear glasses.
I mean it is really the simple things that give truth.
Dragonfly has his own ideas about how Christ will return.
Christ healed people, and so it has to happen now according to
Each revelation and Revealer of God’s revelation will be different.
They will do different things.
Christ and what he did was exaggerated in many places in the
healing power. He was a
healer. He healed
individuals. We heal the
whole earth. Our Revelation
and teaching is the healing power for the whole of humanity.
And we teach how to heal yourself.
Christ lived when he was around thirty to thirty-three, or thirty-three
to thirty-six. In that age
our eyes do not need glasses, a lot of people do not need glasses.
I bet if he was sixty years old, he would have used glasses, if
they had them then. Probably
they did not even have glasses then to wear.
you knew our teachings you would not even ask these questions because we
have explained, people who bring revelations to humanity are regular men
who have the Spirit of God on them.
They are prophesied to come, and when they come they will reveal
to humanity that revelation.
Probably you are going with the teaching of Paul that exaggerated the
situation of Christ. You
never ever will see the Christ to come the way the Christians are
waiting for him to come, based on what Paul taught them and they
believe, because it is not based on the Words of God, it is not based on
how God has been working and sending the Prophets, and bringing His
revelations to man.
is not our teaching. It is
not my glasses. It is not
that what we teach is incorrect but it is your perception and
understanding of how God Works that is faulty.
You are judging with the information that is incorrect.
You have to meditate on these words and realize the teaching that has
been given through this Mission and see that all the Prophets,
including Christ, were men. That is why when they said, “Good Rabbi” to him, Christ said, “I am not
good, only God is good.”
When the Spirit of God was upon him he said, “No one goes to the Father
but through me.” Therefore
the Father and he were one. He was the son of God and the son of man.
He was both Divine, as the Mouthpiece of God, One with God, and
no one goes to the Father but through him and His Words.
In other times he was just as human as any other man.
He even was not good anymore.
You have to understand these teachings, this realization, and correct
your understanding. Do not
listen to Paul or The Acts.
They have a lot of truth in them but there are also a lot of
untrue things that have been revealed to humanity through Paul.
Do not follow Paul.
Follow the Messiah, the true Messenger of God, who came to the lost
tribes of Israel.
Correct your understanding with this Revelation.
A part of this Revelation is to correct misunderstandings that
have been on earth for the last 2,000 years or longer.
In order to correct your perception you have to understand our
teachings. You have to see
that not only will I wear glasses; I will grow old and eventually leave
But I shall return, as Christ said.
This is not the end of this Mission.
I will leave and I shall return until this Mission is
I am not trying to be disrespectful.
This man claims to be the Messiah.
Don’t you think that is quite a claim?
it is quite a claim. It is
just like someone comes and wants to have a job in a company.
He says, “I have a doctorate degree in…,” whatever that job
requires. “I am the best in
The company will tell him, “Let us see your resume.
Are you backing up your claim with your resume?
Let us see if you are indeed the best.”
“Yes, he has been teaching in the university.
He is inventing many things, and he really has a degree at a
reputable university.” He
proves that, yes indeed, he is the best.
What does that company have to do?
They have to hire him because that is what they were looking for.
Now you have to do the same thing.
Someone comes and claims that they have the last Revelation from
God. It is a big claim.
I am not saying it is a small claim at all.
It is a huge claim.
Dragonfly, wait until your question has been answered before you keep
posting. That is not going
to create a good flow here.
see the resume. A lot of
people are claiming that they are Christ, they are the second coming, or
whatever. You have to ask
them, what kind of prophecies have they fulfilled.
Are their words the Words of God?
There are a lot of people coming and saying that they have the
Revelation of God and they are the Christ.
But we did not say that.
It was a gentleman in England who took ads all over the world and
said, “Maitreya is the Christ.”
have not given to myself all the names that I have received.
That fulfills the prophecy that many will come in his name and
call themselves whatever they want.
You have to discern and study our teachings and see if this is
the Word of God.
This is what God said was going to happen:
At the end time there is going to be a Revelation that will
reveal the Seven Seals and the Book sealed with the Seven Seals.
When that Revelation comes, the Mystery of God will be finished.
not rely on your own understanding.
Do not rely on your religions.
Do not rely on your culture.
Rely on the Words of God.
And the Words of God are very clear.
This Mission and these teachings and what it claims are
based on the Words of God, the fulfillment of those prophecies, and the
Revelation that humanity has been waiting for.
my glasses take you away from the Words of God, then your understanding
of God is very shallow. You
have to bring yourself in a greater degree and go beyond the
appearances. Do you want the
truth of God? Then search,
knock, understand, and realize.
Then you will have a good grip of the reality of this
not judge with appearances and small little things.
What you know is not going to happen, I promise you.
We will see at the end who is the truthful one.
This is the truth. It is based on the Words of God, based on the
prophecies and the Scriptures.
Our resume is backed up 100%.
No matter what humanity does not agree with, or accept with this
teaching, eventually it will be revealed to be the only truth, the only
Way for humanity to follow and reach their salvation.
These are all great claims we claim.
I am the Way and the Truth.
No one goes to the Father but through me.
That is a big claim.
Christ said it.
Muhammad said it. Bab said
it. All the Great Prophets
of God came and said the same thing, “You cannot go to God but through
these revelations and teachings.”
That is exactly what we claim here.
did not call myself Christ. There were other people who called
We did not even know them.
is all on our website. It
has all been given to humanity to strengthen their faith and
understanding of the Words of God.
And these are the Words of God.
This is the Plan of God for humanity.
course people have their religions, their understandings, and they are
following their cultures. They do not want to see the truth.
Therefore eyeglasses will become an obstacle in their path to
realizing God? That is
really, really sad. But that
is the truth.
am not the one who will bring you to this Mission.
It is God who will bring you to this Mission or take you
away by making eyeglasses so important, when beyond the glasses is the
Spirit of God. Those who
cannot see this will not follow the Words of God and will not see the
is your choice again. It is
your understanding of the Words of God and realizing that what you
follow and what you think you know is what you have been taught.
That is not what God said.
God said, “Abraham, I choose you.
I will have a Messiah, a Prophet come through your son Isaac.”
He came as Christ. Also he
told Abram, “I will have a Messiah, a Prophet, come through your son.”
That was Ishmael.
had already, in the very beginning in the Bible, promised Abraham
that there were going to be two Prophets, two Revealers, who would come
that is the truth, then how can Christ be the only Way?
God said He was going to send two Prophets, two Messiahs.
And He Did.
Christ as that person from Isaac, and Prophet Muhammad from Ishmael.
Right there the whole teaching of Christianity had to be expanded, had
to follow the Words of God. Then at the end, in
The Revelation, He said there were going to
be Seven Revelations that would come to humanity and bring Seven Truths
There we go, the rest of the religions.
Right there it says that Jews are not the chosen people alone,
but those that follow the Eternal Divine Path.
Christians cannot have the only way.
Moslems do not have the last Prophet or last word.
And most of the Baha’i teachings are not based on the Words of God.
When you follow the first five steps, then you become an Elect.
You become a chosen person.
See, this is the Word of God.
But will Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Moslems, and all
listen to it and see it so clearly?
It is the Word of God.
God said that is the way it will be, and it is.
will they come here and say, “All this truth I am going to ignore
because you have on eyeglasses.”
It is amazing that rejecting the Word of God is because of the
appearances and our own perceptions.
But that is OK.
You did not
know. You did not know about
all this truth. You have
probably been born in a culture that taught that Christ is going to come
from the sky and say, “Kingdom be,” and it will be.
never has happened. And it
never will. No one is going
to come from the sky, as the physical sky.
Sky means heaven.
means Pure Consciousness. Sky means the higher state of being.
You have to read our teachings and understand the Scriptures, the Words
of God. The more you do
that, the more you understand our teachings, and the more you will
realize that what you have been taught is not correct, is not based on
the Words of God.
You will stop following Paul.
You will start following the Great Prophets.
You will start following Christ.
You will start following Moses.
You will start following Abraham, Mohammad, and Bab.
Expand yourself from the small understanding of one religion that is
full of dogmas and was influenced with the Roman teachings and pagan
religions before it, and it reached the point that it no longer had the
words of the original Revealer.
When you see that then you will say, “OK, what was the original
You will see it is sacrifice.
Christ set an example of himself.
He sacrificed himself for his ideal and the truth.
Therefore my eyeglasses become so small compared with the
Revelation and the Word of God that you even do not see them.
They are not there.
It does not matter because you see the Spirit behind, which is God.
This physical body probably needs glasses but God does not because He is
the Spirit. Maybe God put
glasses in my picture to see who is the true seeker and who will fall by
their own perceptions.
God is Amazing.
God works in
have to realize these are the Words of God.
When we realize that then we overcome our own understandings,
wishful thinking, and realize that is how God does it.
All the Prophets of God will come from a woman; they will be born as a
child. They grow up as
regular men. They are a
little different. They are a
little more perceptive. They
are more meditative probably.
Eventually they reach a point in their lives that they realize
that they have a mission. God will reveal it to them very clearly.
There is no Prophet who had not been prophesied to come.
If a person is claiming to be a Prophet, if a person claims to be
Christ, if they have not fulfilled the prophecies, if they do not bring
the Words of God, they are false.
I am not doing those things, I am false.
But it is proven over and over again that what we say is based on
the Words of God.
The prophecies that are fulfilled in this
Mission are all the
prophecies before it. There
has never been a Prophet that fulfilled so many prophecies.
The genealogy has been proven that it goes all the way to King David,
Abraham, and Adam. Of course
everyone goes to Adam, but to Abraham and King David.
It is again another indication for everyone to see that this is
This is not something that an egoistical person sat one day and put them
together. Actually it is
impossible for a human to put together all of this Revelation and truth
that has come through the Mission by a good brain or a good mind.
This had to be from the Spirit of God.
you understand this truth then you would be amazed at how much truth has
come to humanity through this Mission.
Then you have no choice but to claim indeed, “This is from God.
This is the last Revelation.”
You have to come, join,
help, and be one with it. Forget about my glasses.
see the truth.
These are the truths of this
Mission and reality.
God indeed is with us, and His Spirit has returned to earth.
He always does His Work the way He has done it through this
There is no
There is not going to be anyone who comes from the sky and brings the
Kingdom and says, “Be,” and it will be.
If that was the truth, why do we need the tribulation?
Why do we need the human to go through the tribulation and
eventually realize that they have no choice but to follow God?
Again, we encourage you to go to our website and see the truth that has
come to humanity. Humanity
is not ready for it yet for sure.
They have their own ideas.
They have their religions, dogmas, and misunderstandings in every
religion on earth. There is
not one that does not have them.
The only one that does not really have dogmas, misunderstandings, etc.,
is our teaching that has purified all the dogmas from the previous
teachings and religions and brought the Essence of God’s Words on earth
to humanity. We again
encourage you to search, to knock, to go and to study our teachings in a
greater degree in our website.
It is free for everyone to see, read, understand, and become
you still did not receive all the truth, then you can come here and
discuss it with us, or me. You can discuss it with us during the week in the room called “All
Religions Unified.” If you
are not satisfied there, come here.
I am available the first Saturday of each month for an hour for
everyone. You can come and
ask your questions, and in an intelligent way we can discuss things and
see who is the truthful one.
Lou is asking:
THOTH, Tablet 9, in Universe and Man, verses 13-15,
please expound on the last two states.
It would be great if someone could read that part to us so we all
can know what the verses are.
13-15: “Another point is that
although the universe or its worlds are divided into seven levels, in
the spiritual Hierarchy (Hierarchy in the Kingdom Of Heaven), there are
two more states.
In the sixth and seventh stages, a man becomes a son of God (god).
But before man was created there were two beings in this state.
So the eighth state is the
state of the First Begotten Son, and the ninth is the state of the
you study the Far East Philosophies, Hinduism or Buddhism, especially
Hinduism, they speak about the seven states of consciousness or chakras.
They believe that when you reach the seventh state, you reach
God, and you, like a drop of water, fall into the ocean of The Grace of
God and become One. You lose
your identity and become a part of God.
If you study the Judeo/Christian/Islamic/Baha’i teachings, you see
they are talking about the Messiah, the coming of the Son of God and the
importance of the Messiah in their teaching and realization.
Although Hinduism also has Revealers and Prophets as Krishna,
Brahma, Shiva, etc., the emphasis is mostly on awakening your spiritual
forces and becoming One with God.
The emphasis is not on the Messiah Himself although they have a
lot of beautiful stories about them.
The whole idea is, you know Self, and the self and God or atman
and Atman are one. They are
the same thing.
We can see there are two Plans going on at the same time.
There is Hinduism and the Mystical Paths, and the
Judeo/Christian/Islamic/Baha’i teachings that emphasize the Messiah and
the coming of the Prophets, the prophecies, etc.
That is why Hinduism only has seven levels.
But beyond those seven levels there have been two more levels
that they do not acknowledge or consider, and that was the eighth level
that the Bible clearly says, “God saw the chaos and His Spirit
moved into the chaos.”
That Spirit of God went through the chaos as is explained in
THOTH and realized the Eternal Divine Path.
He realized that the reason those lost Souls created chaos and
darkness was because they do not know themselves and they think they are
completely separated from God.
That illusion of separation brings the darkness in the Soul, and
people fall into the attraction of the external world.
They think this is the truth, and they do not go to God.
The first step became the awakening of the spiritual forces, which
later on came as the Mystical Paths on earth.
That is the first step.
Then He realized that in order to create an environment that
accelerates the process in the creation of community and bringing those
who are interested in spirituality together as the communities, the
second step became the creation of the Communities of Light.
He realized that Communities of Light would not be created
until every individual in the community realizes that it is not all
about “me.” It is all about
the community, bringing the Spirit of God into the community and
bringing the Laws of God into it.
Therefore the person has to sacrifice.
That was the Third Seal, the Christianity.
Later on they realized that surrendering and submission is
important in order to let the Spirit of God come through.
And that is Islam.
Later universalism, and that is the Baha’i teaching.
Now you become an Elect and eventually you reach God.
When the Spirit of God that went through the darkness returns to
the Godhead, God saw the Light.
He saw that it was good.
Before the First Begotten Son, or the Spirit of God came to the
world and went through the suffering, as Christ symbolizes it, he was
created in that state. So
not only do men have to reach the seventh state of being or chakras, or
overcoming them, become one with the Spirit, and becoming a son of God,
also they have to recognize that the Word of God will not come to
humanity just by those who forcefully want to go to God.
According to our teachings God said, “If you want to come to Me
forcefully and not follow the Eternal Divine Path, I will spue
you out of My Mouth. I will
not let you come in. You
have to go back and engage in the Eternal Divine Path and bring
the Kingdom of God on earth and probably in the universe eventually, and
accelerate the progress of everyone behind you to Me.
Then probably, I will let you in.”
We can see that Hinduism, Buddhism, and those who want to go to God just
by meditation are also incorrect in assuming you can make it.
God said, “No, you will not.
I will send you back to the suffering of the world, as Christ
Himself had to go through.”
Therefore the son of God, or the First Begotten Son, is the eighth
level that has to be accepted also as a part of the Plan of God.
It is not only seven levels and chakras, going through them and
they take you to God, but accepting the Christ, the Messiah, the son of
God, or the First Begotten, who will bring the Revelation and the Word
of God to humanity.
Without the son that went through the
Eternal Divine Path
and brings the Revelation of God to humanity, man would not know the
highest Will of God. A lot
of people might know a little of the Will of God about them, or about
the problems they have, but they will not see the importance of the
Prophets and Messiah to bring the Word of God in the highest level.
That is the eighth.
God, of course, is the ninth level.
These two states have to be recognized and realized by Hinduism
and the Mystical Paths. The
seven chakras and Koshas and what is in Universe and Man should
be realized and recognized by the Judeo/Christian/Islamic/Baha’i
Again, we have unified the Mystical Paths and their understandings
with the Judeo/Christian/Islamic/Baha’i teachings and brought the
balance and the greater understanding to both sides.
That is why again none of them has the whole truth.
Lou is asking:
on the difference between son of god and the Only Begotten Son?
The Only Begotten Son is the Spirit of God that went through the
chaos and eventually reached Pure Consciousness before the creation.
He was begotten.
did not go through the creation the way the rest of the sons of God will
go through and will be born in the world as a regular human.
First Begotten Son was the Spirit of God that came to man.
That is the symbolic coming of Christ
to earth (darkness) as God and going through the suffering.
The whole story symbolizes the presence of darkness in the
beginning that the Spirit of God went through before the creation.
the very beginning in the Bible there was chaos, and the Spirit
of God moved over the waters that went through the chaos and went
through the Eternal Divine Path and eventually reached the Light,
Pure Consciousness. He
became the First Begotten. He was begotten, through going through that chaos.
sons of God are those who will reach Pure Consciousness, or Godhood, or
reach to the Essence as it is explained at the end of The Revelation,
“Whoever overcometh will become my son.”
They are not really begotten.
They are not the Spirit of God that has gone through the chaos.
are the unit consciousnesses that go toward the chaos, suffering, and
progress in many lifetimes, and eventually reach the Essence of God,
become one with the Essence, and then become the sons of God.
That is the difference.
is the First Begotten Son was the Spirit of God that went through the
chaos and reached Pure Consciousness.
Therefore he became the Begotten Son.
The sons of God are those who overcome and eventually become the
sons of God. That is the
difference between the two.
understanding these things we can see why both the seventh, eight, and
ninth are so important in the spiritual world.
Seven is the mystical, the number of mystics and God.
That is when humanity becomes connected to God and in that
they cannot go there unless they realize the importance of the eighth
level, the Prophets, the Messiah, the Revealer to humanity of the Will
of God, and God Itself that is the Spirit that resides on the Messiah,
or the Prophet, or the Revealer of the revelations.
With these two
understandings brought together, again the teaching of both sides, the
Judeo/Christian/Islamic/Baha’i teaching will be enhanced because they
now include chakras, koshas, meditation, and the seventh level
understanding. The yogis
have gone through those processes and have brought us many truths about
them, how they have gone through every level, and what is the pitfall of
When you reach
the sixth level, for the first time you feel that God is touching you
and is close unto you.
In the seventh level, you absolutely become absorbed in God.
Very few people have reached that state of liberation.
Maybe 12,000 years ago some did but after that it is very hard to
created the history; sent the Prophets to guide humanity.
Now He says that is why most of the yogis do not stay there
because when they reach there God says, “No, go back.”
Those are the Great Souls that have been meditating for the last
12,000 years and some of them have become very close to liberation as
yogis. But they have been
pushed back to come back on earth.
Now when they
hear and see this Revelation they say, “Oh yes, this makes a lot of
sense because I have been searching for this truth for many lifetimes.
Now this truth makes sense.
opens my eyes to a greater reality that I never knew.
Now I understand that I could not go to God just by meditation.
I have to engage myself to the Communities of Light, I
have to sacrifice, I have to surrender and submit to the Will of God.
Then I will become One with God and His Will.
Then I have to expand my consciousness to become a universalist.
And then I am an Elect.”
That does not
mean that I am going to go to Pure Consciousness.
I might be incarnated again and again until we bring the Kingdom
of God on earth and accelerate the progress of everyone to Pure
As Christ said,
“I am the first and the last.”
It means, who is the first is going to go in the last.
It is not going to be the first one who goes in first.
He is the Alpha and the Omega.
It is just that he will not enter Godhood until he sees that all
the people he has helped for many lifetimes go in first.
Then at the end
of this creation when the original energy is finished, at the time for
creation to go back to darkness and stay there for billions of years, he
goes in and closes the door. Those who have made it to Pure Consciousness will be with them, and
those who did not make it cannot.
They stay behind.
understanding of all these nine levels of consciousness is very
important for everyone, for all religions, for the creation of the Communities of Light, and for the salvation of humanity.
With this we
bring again the teaching of the Far East with the teaching of the Middle
East and West together, and we will see that the perfection again is
revealed to humanity to expand their minds and consciousnesses in a
greater degree, and they are unified.
That is what
those two verses are referring to.
The eighth level and the ninth level are as important as the
first seven levels, the chakras, and the koshas.
That is what the Hindus and the Buddhists have to realize.
Actually it is
easier for Buddhists because they have Buddha.
Buddha probably was the Mouthpiece of God at that time.
He really did not bring any new religion.
He purified the Hindu religion.
He was just sick of the many gods in Hinduism.
That is why he said, “Do not worry about God.
Just meditate and ‘Know Thyself.’
That is the goal of life.
The goal of the life is to reach Pure Consciousness, know self,
and become one with God.” Without our teachings, you will not make it.
thyself reaches a point that God says, “OK, you know yourself a lot.
Now go back and teach others about how to know themselves, how to
create the Communities of Light, how to bring the Kingdom of God
on earth, and how to help them also to reach higher consciousness.”
As you can see,
our teaching is dynamic. It
is not escapism. It is not
static. It is a dynamic
teaching that calls you to action, calls you to not only meditate but
also engage yourself in the society in spreading the Message, in
creation of the Communities of Light, in creating an environment
that everyone progresses physically, mentally, and spiritually.
will create an earth that everyone’s physiological and safety needs are
taken care of, and the unity will come to humanity.
We will stop wars and destruction, and we will accelerate the
progress of man in the greatest degree ever.
They eventually will reach Pure Consciousness when many of them
will enter to that state of consciousness.
Those who have helped them will eventually enter that state as
So it is a
teaching that is the Will of God.
This is what He wants humanity to do.
That is how the progress will end.
And that is the Path that he went through himself.
He went through
the Eternal Divine Path.
He did awaken his spiritual forces.
He did realize that in order to create a good environment,
sacrifice is necessary. It
is necessary that we know what is the Will of God for us.
We know what
the Will of God is in general.
The Will of God in general is to follow the Eternal Divine
Path, create the Communities of Light, sacrifice for them,
surrender and submit to His Will, and become a universalist.
Then you become an Elect.
“Now I am an
Elect. What is the Will of
God for me? I am a good
drawer. Maybe I can draw The Greatest Sign in a more professional way.”
Or, “I am a
doctor. I can probably come
to the Communities of Light and heal a lot of people.
I can be in the community and have a community that people are
not sick anymore, and I can help them.”
are, you can help. “I can
translate the whole THOTH in a different language.”
That is a great service.
You will reach so many people by doing that in your language.
Of course we
encourage everyone to learn English because the original teaching has
come in English. But not
everyone is proficient in this language.
If it is translated into other languages, it is much easier for
them to understand it.
Now what is the
Will of God for me? Recognize the Will of God for you under the umbrella of His Will for the
whole of humanity and the universe, and submit to it.
Say OK, “God wants me to do this.
I am submissive to His Will, under the umbrella of the
We can see that
the system is given very clearly and we are looking for dynamic people
that will understand this teaching in a greater degree and will engage
with it, will realize what the Will of God is for them under this
teaching. They will come
together and will spread this teaching all over the earth, and make
humanity to understand.
We need a lot
of teachers. We need a lot
of people who will become the facilitating body.
We need the writers.
We need the doctors.
professors. We need lawyers.
We need everyone in every level of life who would like to come
and join the Communities of Light, become a part of them, and
help in any way possible.
levels are important to recognize and realize.
As it says in our writing, “Does God Talk To Everyone?” yes, in
the lower level maybe. That
is because even dream consciousness will give us some answers to our
personal problems or psychological problems.
But will God give the highest Revelations to everyone and talk to
God and His Way, No. He will
only send it through one person, and that person is the Revealer of the
Will of God. He has sent six
of them so far. This is the
Seventh One comes, he
explains everything. That is
exactly what happened. We
have explained the Will of God, what He was doing for the last 12,000
years, what is the Eternal Divine Path, and why all the religions
of the world are a part of this Path and there is no separation between
religions. Actually they are
complimentary. They are not
contradictory at all.
If I have not
fulfilled all those resumes that we went through a half an hour ago or
forty-five minutes ago, you should not accept what I say, no matter how
wonderful it sounded. But
not only does it sound wonderful, it explains the Will of God, it is
based on the Word of God, and it is based on the prophecies, the
You have to see
that is how God works. God
chooses a man who is born from a woman, and then he reveals the
teaching. But that person
fulfills the prophecies.
comes and says that they are the Prophet of God, or the Messiah and they
have not fulfilled the prophecies, their words are not based on the
Words of God, and they have not opened the Seven Seals, you just say,
“No, it is not according to the way God works.”
If you are
waiting for someone to come from the sky and say, “Kingdom be,” and it
will be, that is an illusion, that is a dogma, that is not what Christ
taught. It is not going to
happen. It never happened before.
Prophets came as regular humans from a woman and brought the revelation
to humanity. Those who are
waiting for such a thing to happen, they can wait forever, and it is not
going to happen.
That was a good
question, Lou. That was very
good. I hope everyone sees
how there are nine levels of consciousness.
The seventh level is explained with the Mystical Paths, and the
two have been emphasized and followed with the
Now again they are put together.
We have reached
the end of our Conversation today.
Again this room is for you to go to our website, read
our Holy Book or Scripture. Understand our teachings.
to our rooms. Listen to
them. If you have
questions, you always can come here on Saturday for an hour and a half,
and we can discuss them together.
God Bless, and become a Paravipra.