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usual we will be with you for the next hour or so for
This room basically is to answer any questions about the teachings.
They have all has been posted and provided for everyone on our
website. See what has been
revealed to man as has been promised by God that He will bring a
teaching that will open the Seven Seals and will reveal the Book that
was sealed with the Seven Seals.
This Revelation, which was prophesied to come could have been opened by
only one person, he who is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, and therefore
anyone who has not been or has not fulfilled the prophecies before it
cannot say he is the last Revealer of the Revelation of God.
Humanity has a lot to learn and understand, to know the Will and the
Plan of God and to realize that no one can claim anything until the
Seventh Revelation comes as God said He would be a mystery until this
time. He has sent Warners to
humanity that He will leave them alone but He expects that they will
progress. Eventually at the
end time there will be a sundering, a separation, between the wheat and
chaff. The wheat will be
gathered to the barns of God, to His Kingdom, to heaven, and those who
will be left behind will not make it there.
Therefore humanity has been sent many Warners.
This is the last warning to them to come together, to realize God
and His Revelation, to bring His Kingdom, and to progress to Pure
Consciousness or Oneness with God.
Of course the world, the tribulation, and the Maya have also become
stronger and more powerful than before.
Many people have fallen for it and they have left God out of
their lives. Many people are
not listening or hearing this Revelation.
We already have a question from Kurdiya:
Which Prophets do you
We believe in all Prophets before Muhammad and whoever Prophet
Muhammad believed in. Also
we believe that God promised that there would be three more Revelations
that would come after Prophet Muhammad, which Moslems do not accept but
God has said they would come.
Therefore if you study our teachings and understand that God
indeed is revealing the Mystery of God to man, even Moslems and other
religions will clearly see that God has promised that this Revelation
Moslems believe that Prophet Muhammad finished all the Revelations of
God, they are making a mistake because Prophet Muhammad was not the
person who was from the Lion of the Tribe of Judah.
He was from Ishmael, not from Isaac.
So we can see that He could not be the Revealer of the seventh
truth or the Seventh Angel, and of course He never even claimed he was.
Humanity has a lot to learn and understand of God’s Plan.
All the people are invited, are Called to this Revelation, to
realize that there is more in God’s Words and Revelations than what they
know and believe. So they
can come, study, and realize that what they believe has a deeper
meaning. As we have
revealed, indeed Prophet Muhammad did reveal the highest spiritual
realization, which is surrendering and submission to God, but He did not
reveal the whole Plan, which will come at this time.
Therefore it is an invitation to all humanity to come, study, realize
and recognize that there is another Warner, that indeed the last warning
has come to man. It is not
that God will leave men where they are, as Prophet Muhammad said and the
Bible and other Scriptures confirm, but He will eventually look
in their hearts and their minds and choose those who have progressed.
He will sunder them and separate them as those who have
progressed and those who have not.
He will make the Elects to come forward and become surrendered
and submitted to God completely.
this is another warning and a Call to humanity.
This is not a joke.
It is not something we can come here once a week and say, “OK, we have
done our duty,” and like a church or a mosque or a synagogue, we can go
out and do whatever we want to do.
That is why once in a while I do not show up to make everyone realize
that this is the time for you to understand the teachings in the deepest
level and to start listening, becoming involved, and following God’s
Will and Call. It is not to
just stay on the fringes, coming here once a week and saying, “Well, I
did my duty; I came to Satsang,” and that is it.
It is the Last Warning.
This is a Call for the Elects.
It is a very serious matter that has come to humanity.
Kurdiya is asking:
Do you believe in Prophet
Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him) from the teachings of the Qur'an?
Yes we do, and not only do we believe in Prophet Muhammad because
of the teachings of the Koran, we believe in Prophet Muhammad
because God promised both Isaac and Ishmael that a Prophet would come
from them and He also would bless them with a great portion of the
That promise was fulfilled.
Prophet Muhammad came as that promised Prophet.
The land that was given to Ishmael, which God said would be from
the north and the west and the east, was given to them.
They spread very huge and large, in a sense that you cannot even
count their numbers. We can
see that that was fulfilled.
Children of Ishmael cover Arabia and most of the west of the Middle
East, go all the way to North Africa and to
Spain, and eventually went to
So all these people have Arabic or Ishmaelite blood in them.
If you study Spanish you will find that there are a lot of Arabic
words in the Spanish language.
Spain was under Arabic rule for 200
years, so we can see that there was a great influence in the Spanish
people with the Ishmaelite blood.
They even influenced some parts of
and there is a bloodline in France of Arabic descent.
we can see that the Children of Ishmael cover a great part of the world
and there was also a Prophet who came from them as God had promised.
Therefore God indeed exists.
He promises and He fulfills those promises.
also promised Isaac a King or a Messiah, who came as Christ.
They have a great portion of the earth from
to Khazar, to the south of Russia,
to Europe, and eventually to North America.
Actually New Mexico is where the Children of Ishmael and the
Children of Isaac meet, because South America mostly has Arab blood and
North Americans have the blood of the Children of Isaac or Israel.
Therefore we can see that God has fulfilled His Promises, and in
history God has brought humanity to this point.
Kurdiya is asking:
So then from the same Qur'an you would believe that He is
the last of the Prophets/Messengers/Warners?
Well, it is a very controversial word that is used in the
Koran as Khatam or Khatem.
Khatem and Khatam have two different meanings.
One means “seal” and the other one means “the end, the finish,
the last.” Both of those
meanings have been a point of controversy between Moslems and many
people who came after Him, especially at this time that it is very
controversial between the Moslems and Baha’is.
Baha’is say, “It means the seal of the Prophets,” and Moslems
say, “No, it means the end of the Prophets.”
we explain in our teachings, both are correct.
He brought the highest spiritual realization.
No other Revelation can bring a greater spiritual truth to
humanity, and He finished the spiritual part of God’s Plan and
Revelation. Also if you look
at The Greatest Sign, Islam is at the very top of the ring and
therefore He is indeed the seal of Prophets.
So He also is what the Baha’is believe, or those who take it as
the seal of the Prophet.
Therefore they both are correct.
But Prophet Muhammad by no means was the last Prophet.
In the Koran He Himself said that He did not reveal
everything, and therefore He could not be the last because only the last
Prophet can reveal the whole truth.
He did not include the Mystical Paths although he was a mystic
himself and meditated in the cave for fifteen years.
He was not the Lion of the Tribe of the
and therefore He could not have been the one who could have opened the
Seven Seals. Also God said
there would be Seven Revelations, and Prophet Muhammad brought the
Therefore you have to study our teachings and realize that God’s Plan,
Revelation, and Words are different than what most of the religions
believe. Come and be surrendered and submissive to God, and realize what
these Revelations are because Prophet Muhammad could not have been the
last Prophet or the last Revealer as God said there was going to be much
more after that.
Also the Koran itself was not written until the Third Caliph.
By that time there was more than one version of the Koran.
Eventually they accepted one version as the official Islamic
Koran. There have been
other Revelations that came that were not included, or things were
included that might not completely be exactly the Words that came
through Prophet Muhammad. As
the Bible has been changed, the Koran also is not a
Revelation that came to the Prophet, was written by the Prophet, was
published by the Prophet, was put on the Internet, and was made into a
hard copy for humanity.
There is no doubt that the last version of The Holiest Of The
Holies is the last Revelation of God.
It covers everything including Mystical Paths and all the
religions that have come to this point, and there is no one who is not
although Prophet Muhammad is accepted by us as one of the Major
Manifestations and a Promised One by God, we can see that God has more
than what Moslems believe.
have to be surrendered and submissive to God.
Go and study, search, and eventually realize that the Words of
God are different than what we believe.
Become a submissive one to the Will of God and accept His Words
as the truth, not what the people in our religion or culture or
tradition tell us. Be only
committed to the Words of God and His Revelation.
we do that, then we have no choice but to see that indeed God has
promised there were going to be Seven Revelations and the last Revealer
of the whole Revelation is the one that covers the whole Plan of God.
Therefore every religion has to overcome, forego some of their
beliefs and dogmas, and understand this Revelation that reveals the
we are hanging onto our beliefs, we will not progress and go ahead with
a greater Revelation that has now come to humanity.
Kurdiya is asking:
wrote your book?
The book, like the Koran, has come from God.
Indeed this reveals much more than any other book that has come
to humanity. As many believe
that the Word of God is twenty-seven, by the time of the coming of this
Revelation only two of these will have been revealed.
When this Revelation comes, the rest of the twenty-five will be
revealed to humanity.
Indeed that is correct. Those who
read these teachings, and realize and recognize the depth, beauty,
strength, and truth in them and see the unification will utter, “Yes, it
is from God.”
Many do not believe it is possible and wonder out loud, “How can you
unify all religions because they contradict each other, they are
different, they have different Revelations, they condemn each other, and
they say, ‘No, ours is better than yours?’”
That is the miracle of this
The miracle of the Mission is the Message, the Message
that incredibly unifies all religions, shows the Plan of God, and
reveals the Words of God that have been coming to humanity for the last
6,000 years through His Prophets.
Now they are unified and they are indeed all from God.
He has sent all of this Revelation in seven pieces.
Each of the religions of the world has one piece of it.
They cannot see the whole picture.
So there is confusion and separation between them.
That is why they think it is impossible to unify them.
But God said, “At the end time they will be unified,” and they
Therefore with this understanding, humanity can see the beauty of God
that He indeed exists. He is
there. He sent the Warners;
He sent the Prophets. He
sent the Revelations to man, and they have been called to come and
become the Elects.
Those who will not listen and will not hear this Revelation have been
warned that they are not going to be reincarnated for a long time.
They will be thrown into a place with the “gnashing of the teeth”
(destructive forces) and that is not a very pleasant place to be.
this is a Call for you to recognize that God is calling you to become an
Elect, progress, follow the Eternal Divine Path and His last
Revelation, and come together as His Children.
There is no separation.
has prophesied that Islam will take over one-fourth of the earth and it
already has. The other
religions have been here for two hundred years, or twelve hundred years,
or two thousand years, or three thousand-five hundred years, or four
thousand years or more, and they have not been able to unify humanity
because they do not have the whole truth.
Kurdiya, the only people who have the microphone privileges in this room
are those who have gone to our website and know our teachings.
Apparently you do not know our teachings.
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you are attached to Islam, or Christianity, or Judaism, or Buddhism, or
Hinduism, or the Baha’i Faith, you will not hear the Message that is so
clearly given to you. You
might even try to twist it to your own understanding, tradition, and
beliefs that you had before, and it will not fit.
I need to clarify something.
Why won’t you let me do that?
You can clarify it in text.
Go ahead. This room
is not for those people who do not know anything about our teachings and
come here and judge us. You
cannot judge something that you do not know anything about.
That is the idea.
you want to talk about Islam, we know about Islam.
We have read the Koran, and we have actually been born in
that culture and were raised with the ideas of Islam.
Therefore we are expert in Islam and we know Islam well.
This is not a room to preach Islam.
This is a room to preach the Eternal Divine Path.
If you want to discuss, fine.
Go this week to our website, study our teachings, and come back
here next week. I will ask
you a few questions about our teachings.
If you know the answers, then we will give you the microphone.
It is very simple.
Just know our teachings before coming to this room to discuss things
Kurdiya is asking:
What you said about the compilation of the Qur’an was
Well, those are historical facts, Kurdiya.
When Prophet Muhammad received the Revelation of God, he uttered
it orally. There were people
around him who memorized it.
There were many of these people who had memorized the Koran at
that time, but after Prophet Muhammad’s time there was a war where many
of them were killed.
Therefore Uthman became very concerned about the rest of the people who
knew the Koran by heart, if they also were killed or died, so he
decided to put the Koran together as one book.
by that time there were many versions of the Koran.
There were many people who said, “No, Prophet Muhammad said
that,” and the other people said, “No, He did not say that, He said
There was a great disagreement between even those who had memorized the
Koran and people who came later on and quoted what Prophet
Muhammad had said. Therefore
Uthman had to gather two versions and eventually decide which one is the
one that they will accept as the Koran.
it is a historical fact. If
you did not know about this, you should study more about how the
Koran was compiled. And
that is the truth. That is
not something we made it up.
It is something well-known to everyone as the truth.
Therefore there was more than one version.
Actually after they complied the Koran, later on they
found some additional verses that some other people remembered Prophet
Muhammed had revealed but they were not included in the Koran.
thirteen years Prophet Muhammad went to the mosque and gave discourses.
If you put together thirteen years of discourses, it is going to
be ten times bigger than the Koran that they have now.
Therefore there are lots of verses that were not included.
There are a lot of verses that might have changed.
Also it is very logical.
of course the message is correct.
The message is surrendering and submission to God.
That is exactly what the Moslems have to recognize in the
Eternal Divine Path.
Therefore we can see indeed that there were many verses of the Koran
and many verses have been omitted.
Maybe some of them are not completely what Prophet Muhammad had
said the Qur'an was not put together until the time of the Third
Caliph. Well, it was revealed
before that, and there have been no changes in the Holy Qur’an
since it was revealed.
That is what I just explained to you.
Yes, there were changes in the Koran.
and the room. When we are
talking about misunderstandings, I was wondering if you would clarify
about the word “jahad.” That
seems to be so misunderstood and misused for such a long period of time,
and it seems to be such a burden to mankind right now.
My question is, isn’t there something somewhere that was written to like
stop doing that or something communicated that it is no longer needed?
The word jahad was revealed to Prophet Muhammad after he was
badly treated with the Meccans or the people in Mecca.
Eventually he had to flee from Mecca and go to
He was in Medina, and after the
tribes of the Qureysh recognized that they could not have access to Him
to kill Him, etc., they started mistreating the Moslems who were left in
Prophet Muhammed resisted fighting with the people in Mecca for a long time.
Eventually the concept of jahad was revealed to Prophet Muhammad
that you have to struggle against the unbelievers who were in
They were persecuting them for their beliefs and for this new
Prophet Muhammad did not want to fight them.
He wanted to be peaceful and be in a peaceful way with them.
But of course at the end, he recognized and realized that there
was no other way but to defend the Moslems in Mecca and Medina,
and the enmity started between them in the way of the war.
Actually the Meccans attacked
and with the army, which was many times larger than what Prophet
Muhammad and his followers were.
They were almost pushed to the point that they had no choice but
to defend themselves and had no choice but to pick up the sword.
Of course in The Revelation it is clearly revealed that the
Fourth Seal would conquer one fourth of the earth with the sword.
And they did. They
took the sword, they fought, they conquered, and they became a great
empire. Eventually they came
all the way to Spain and to the south of France.
They eventually were defeated because God already had fulfilled
the promise of one fourth of the earth, and they took over one fourth of
the earth by sword.
Later on when Islam came to the
point that they lost the original teaching, the Sufis split from Islam
and became the Mystical Path in Islam.
It was mostly the Sufis who went to India and other places and
taught meditation, the dancing of the dervishes, and how to experience
God directly instead of putting God up there somewhere inaccessible to
humanity, and if you said anything bad about it your head was chopped
off. That was not the
Again just like the Roman Catholic church that became a power in Europe
and the Dark Ages came over Europe, the
same thing eventually happened to that religion.
That also has to be recognized with the people who follow this
Revelation that Mystical Paths, having a direct relationship with God,
and experiencing God by yourself individually is a human right and has
been given to man as a part of the
Eternal Divine Path.
Therefore it is not that you are cut off from experiencing God.
The Path is that you meditate, you awaken your spiritual forces,
and YOU have an experience with God.
The Elects are those who will eventually have an experience with
God directly and they will recognize that they do not exist; God does.
Therefore with this understanding we can see that a very beautiful
concept that came in a time that was prophesied would come to those
people who received that Revelation and would use it to gain control of
one fourth of the world reached to a point that anyone who does not
agree with them had their heads cut off.
That, of course, was not the original teaching.
Actually jahad is very similar to
what Krishna revealed to Arjuna in the Bhagavad-Gita,
that when the time comes that morality is destroyed on earth and
humanity is not following the truth of God, what is the reality of
creation, and the relationship between man and God, then “My Spirit will
arise on earth.”
encouraged Arjuna to fight with his family, with his relatives, and with
everyone who was dear to him, and actually overcome them.
Some of them were killed.
Arjuna was very overwhelmed with the idea of fighting his own kin
and things that they were so dear to him.
revealed to him that he had to struggle.
Actually the very word meditation in Sanscrit comes from the word of
Sadhana, and Sadhana means struggle.
The word jahad has a very deep meaning, which is a struggle within.
Jahad should start from you struggling to awaken your spiritual
forces. When you invoke your
spiritual forces, if there is a situation that you have to defend your
faith or bring God’s Kingdom or there is an urgency that you have no
choice but to establish the righteousness on earth and you have to take
up the sword for it (and you are a person who has experienced God and
you have overcome yourself, your shortcomings), then you might declare a
jahad and struggle against those who want to destroy God’s Way.
The Word of God is never going to end.
You never say, “This is the end of jahad.”
No, jahad continues.
But the understanding has now been explained in a very deep level that
jahad starts with you as an individual.
You meditate, awaken your spiritual forces, overcome your
weaknesses, overcome the patterns in your life that always take you to a
place that you really do not want to go.
It is just like you have a bad relationship over and over and over, a
desire to have a situation that is not Godly, or do things that are not
Godly and God said, “Do not do them.”
The meditation, which means Sadhana, which means struggle, is to
close your eyes and look at yourself squarely and say, “Look at me.
What am I doing? I am
doing these things that are not Godly.”
Close your eyes. Look at
them. Examine them.
Test them. Go through
with them. Do not take the
action. Before you take the
action, close your eyes, “OK, I am going to do this.
Is it a good thing to do?”
Go through it to see what is the consequence of your action and
how it affects you, your environment, your relatives, your family, and
of course more importantly your relationship with God.
That has to be number one.
Therefore your struggle is to overcome those things that take you away
from God, and go to God in a greater degree every day.
So after a while you become an example for other people to look
at you and say, “Look, this person has overcome all these weaknesses of
the human.” Then you become
a leader of men, so they can also struggle like you, become like you,
and recognize that jahad starts from within.
Of course at the end if we reach a point that we want to bring the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth and we have struggled
with this process, we will not hesitate to do that.
But chopping peoples’ heads off when we have only one seventh of
the truth and we have only received a Revelation that does not reveal
everything, we have no choice but to make mistakes.
So humanity is in confusion.
The West does not understand the East; the East does not understand the
West. The Christians do not
understand the Moslems. The
Moslems do not understand the Christians.
The Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, etc…., actually if you do not belong
to the Judeo/Christian/Islamic religion, you are an infidel.
So all the Hindus, Buddhists, and even Sufis “are infidels.”
They are not following Islam, and therefore one billion Moslems
are against five billion who are not Moslem.
They are coming to the point that they have been there for twelve
hundred years, and Prophet Muhammad, or at least the traditions or
Haddiths, are telling them that after one thousand years the
of God should have
been on earth. And it is
not. They have reached a
point they are doing things that are not based on the Words of God, and
they are getting themselves in trouble more and more.
We can see that the same situation was in Europe.
At the time of the Dark Ages, the Catholic Church was in power
and they even burned you if they felt you were a witch.
If you had some experiences with God or manifested some qualities
that were not according to their understanding, your life was worth
nothing and the priest decided you were a witch.
They put you on fire and killed you by burning you.
So we can see it is not only Islam that has gone wrong and now they are
struggling and are desperate.
We can see other religions have reached to the same conclusion.
And we know why. The
reason is that each of them have only one seventh of the truth.
It is like the ones that each had a part of the elephant and each of
them was adamant that the elephant looked exactly what they were
touching and the part that they had.
Therefore they had no choice but to be wrong.
The one who had the tail said, “It looks like a broom.”
The one who had the tusks said, “No, it is smooth and very hard,
and it is something different.”
Of course they were going to fight with each other.
The tail and the tusks are not compatible.
It is impossible to come to a conclusion that you can have a
point of agreement because they are absolutely two different things.
But when you open their eyes and say, “No, that is the tail and that is
the tusk, so the elephant is more than just each part that you have,”
then you have the ability to be correct when you make a decision.
And you say, “Yes, God sent all these religions.
That is what they each mean.”
Therefore now the jahad or struggle is between us, creation of
the Communities of Light, creation of the facilitating body,
bringing the Elects together, and eventually making humanity recognize
and realize, “God exists. It
is not an imaginary Being that the yogis or the Prophets created.”
It is you. It is Everything.
This is another struggle.
That is another meditation, that humanity eventually realizes that they
all are a part of God. God
is Everything, and each person is a part of it.
Therefore we have to salute the Divinity of every man, woman, and
child, and recognize that they are a part of God.
They are not American, Russian, Jewish, Hindi, Buddhist, white, black,
yellow, man, woman, child, this and that.
It is our human categories that we have created and separated,
and that brings destruction.
They are based on ego. “If
God is this and this and this, therefore I am better than that and that
and that.” That is not a
So we can see there is a great
darkness on the human and society in their Souls, in their religions, in
their understandings, in their separation, in their cultures, and in
everything that they have been taught that separates man from man.
That is again a meditation; it is a struggle; it is a jahad.
We have to struggle against all these separative ideas and
understand that they are not correct.
They are not Godly.
They are not a part of God.
God is a part of everything, and everything is a part of God.
Indeed God is Everything.
We have to teach humanity to recognize that everything is God.
The Moslems, Jews, Christians, and probably Baha’is have a hard
time to accept that God is everything.
If you talk to one of them they say, “No, God is IN everything
but it is not that God is everything.
He created everything from nothing.”
Therefore they create that separation right there.
If He created everything from nothing therefore some of them are good
and some of them are not good.
But if you recognize and realize that He created everything from
Himself or Itself, then you can recognize that everything is a part of
God and therefore you cannot separate man from man or anything from
anything or any part of the universe.
So jahad is a beautiful concept that has been given to Prophet Muhammad.
But at that time He had no choice.
He was attacked. His
followers in Mecca were being persecuted and their
possessions were confiscated.
He had no choice but to rise against them.
That goes very well with the prophecy that God said, “The Fourth Seal
will conquer one fourth of the world by sword.”
Moslems have to recognize that it is only one fourth.
It is done. It is
finished. It is gone.
God fulfilled what He promised them.
It is now time for them to recognize and realize that they are a
part of a greater truth, accept the Baha’i and Bab’s teachings as
universalism that came after Prophet Muhammad, as was promised and
prophesied to come as the twin Prophets that would come to humanity.
The concept of Elect is not just because, “I belong to this religion or
that religion, or even belong to this
The concept of an Elect is he who follows the
Eternal Divine Path,
recognizes and realizes what God has been doing, comes forward,
meditates, awakens his spiritual forces, uses all the techniques that
are given to him or at least some of them in the Mission, and
recognizes and realizes the Oneness with God.
Eventually we will have an experience with God, not because, “So and so
said this; therefore it should be the truth,” but, “So and so said this,
and yes, it is based on the Words of God and the Word of Prophets.
It is in the Scriptures, and God did send it to humanity.
Therefore we will accept that and implement it in our lives.”
Until that personal experience happens, we are intellectualizing God and
the Revelation, and our egos still might come up and be in our way to
God. When you experience
God, you become a channel for God.
When you say, “God is doing it,” or, “Thanks be to God,” you
really mean it. It is not
something intellectually you say; it is something you recognize that
indeed you do not exist but God does.
Then, of course, how can you do anything when God is completely in you
and you know indeed God exists?
You had experienced Him and your Oneness is complete, and you
recognize that you really do not exist but you had a delusion of
separation from God.
These are all struggles.
They are all meditations.
This Revelation is the ultimate goal or ultimate guidance for humanity
to recognize that, “Yes, indeed, the
Eternal Divine Path
is the Path of salvation.”
Following it is not easy. It
is a meditation. It is a
struggle. It is a jahad.
Therefore jahad is not something that is finished or we will not
have it anymore, but the meaning of it is revealed to humanity in a
greater degree. Moslems have
to recognize that. Of course
they will not, as the Christians do not when we say it is the Revelation
that God said He would send.
They say, “No, Christ has to come from the sky, suddenly fall from the
sky and say, ‘Here I am and here is the Kingdom, and it is going to
come.’” It never happened
like that before.
If God wanted to do it that way
He would have done it at the time of Christ.
Why would He wait another 2,000 years and then come and say, “OK,
now I am going to say Kingdom come and it will come?”
Also God promised both to Ishmael and Isaac that a Prophet would come
from them, and they have. So
we can see that His Way is not going to change.
He is going to send the Prophets because He wants humanity to
progress. He wants humanity
to grow up. He wants
humanity to eventually recognize that they are responsible to meditate.
They are responsible to awaken their spiritual forces.
They are the ones who eventually will have an experience with
God. They are the ones who
have to create the Communities of Light.
They are the ones who have to sacrifice, surrender and submit to
God, and become universalists.
It is not something that God is going to come here and say, “OK, now
everyone follow the
Eternal Divine Path,”
and everyone suddenly says, “OK, we are going to follow the
Eternal Divine Path.”
That has not happened before.
We can see even before the Flood of Noah, God struggled with
humanity and man and eventually said, “My Spirit will not struggle with
That is why He closed the third eye and the human became completely
disconnected from the Spirit or any experience.
Now they are helpless and some of them are even hopeless because
they do not have any connection to God.
But the Way has been given back to man:
Meditate, awaken your spiritual forces, come together so you do
not need as much from the external world and the rat race that is going
on there and trying to cope up with the Jones, but cope up with God and
His Words. Therefore bring
your life in a sharing position.
That is the salvation of man.
Sharing is the Law. The more
people come together and share with each other, the less they will need
from the external world.
Eventually we can create many Communities of Light that are going
to be self-sufficient. They
are not going to follow the propaganda of “buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, you
have to have this and you have to have that,” and eventually each person
becomes a slave of what they want to have or they want to have the
things they are told to have.
Therefore we have to recognize that our salvation is the Communities
of Light. Our salvation
is to come together, share, and create an environment that more and more
we do Godly things.
This external world is not a permanent thing.
It is temporary. You
are not going to be taking your Rolls Royce with you, or your mansion,
or your yacht, or anything in this world.
When the time comes to die and leave, the only thing you will
take with you is your Soul.
You even do not take your body.
No matter how many surgeries you are going to have on your nose
or tuck your fat away from your body, when the time comes to die, the
body is going to be left.
All the money you spent to make it pretty will just be wasted because
your Soul did not learn to become one with God.
You are still separated from Him.
So we are asking humanity not to be human, to become gods, to become the
Children of God and recognize that this life is given to them to come
together and to create an environment that they share.
Therefore they can meditate and experience God.
Then create Communities of Light.
Choose their leaders from these communities, sacrifice in them,
surrender and submit to the Will of God, and expand their minds to
become universalists. That
is what God was talking about as the Elects, “My Elects will inherit the
earth.” That is a promise.
The only question really left for everyone is, is this Revelation from
God? Did God send this to
humanity or did I just one day make it up?
I sat there and said, “Oh this is a good idea, come together and
create Communities of Light and then meditate and awaken your
spiritual forces, sacrifice, surrender and submit, and become
Or, God made it clear this is a Revelation that would come at this time,
at the end time, and it has.
It explains the Plan of God.
If it is a Revelation from God and has come from Him, it is a warning,
it is guidance, and it is a Blessing to those who understand it,
recognize it, and realize it.
It is torture to those who do not.
It is just like those who open PalTalk rooms and call us all kinds of
names with destructive tendencies, and they do not want to listen.
They do not want to acknowledge, “Yes indeed, it is from God and
this is a warning to me. I
had better get on with it and jump on the bandwagon; otherwise I will be
This bandwagon is not going to stop for anyone.
It is going to continue.
If you recognize, “Indeed it is from God,” then you have no
choice but to jump into the bandwagon and see that you have to follow
what God revealed to you and see that you do follow the
Eternal Divine Path.
By following the
Eternal Divine Path, you will become an
Elect; you will become a Child of God.
It is not just being in the Mission
or doing a little for the Mission and saying,
“Yes, OK, I have done enough.
I am an Elect now and I do not have to do anything,” but it is
something that is going to be constant to the end.
Those who follow the
Eternal Divine Path, recognize this Mission and this Revelation as the Will
of God and the Word of God, and stay to the end, God said, will be My
Children. They will
overcome. They will no
longer be humans separated from God but they will be One with God, and
we are all going to be with God forever.
So these are the promises.
This is the process. This is
the Plan. This is the
Revelation that has come.
God has been very protective of this Revelation.
It did not come in the streets.
God said it is not going to come in the street.
God said this Revelation would not be preached in the streets.
It will be preached like this, through the Internet.
All of humanity can hear it and download the teaching.
They can go to the website.
They can read it.
They can understand it.
But still they resist it.
Most of them do not even want to acknowledge it.
They do not want to even go to the website.
Those who go to the website still have their own ideas,
religions, and beliefs. They
are still hanging onto the old wine or old teachings that they want to
fit into the new skin.
As Christ said, it will not work.
You cannot put the new teaching in an old skin, especially this
one, which is twenty-five from the twenty-seven truths that God said He
would send at the end time.
Understand the teachings.
Understand this Revelation by itself.
The best way is to empty your cup.
Just say, “OK, I know nothing.
I am just going to throw out everything I knew; I am going to go
to the website and study what really this Revelation said.”
Look at what you have or what you understood, what you recognized, what
your religion or tradition was, and then say, “Where does it fit in
these twenty-five parts?”
You will see that yours is just a little of these twenty-five.
You will say, “Oh, OK, now I realize; yes, it is one twenty-fifth
or one-seventh of the whole truth.”
Then you will not be disappointed.
You will become a source of this teaching.
Then you can teach other people this teaching.
But as long as you resist it, you do not come and recognize it,
as long as your cup is not empty, whatever I fill or put in it is just
going to flow over, and it is not going to get in.
Therefore this is the Revelation for your salvation.
This is the last Revelation.
There is nothing comparable to it.
So you cannot have another master added to it.
This has to be number one.
We are not even saying to not read other Scriptures, to not study
other truths, or news, or anything like that.
We are just saying, recognize where each falls in these
teachings, recognize all the bad news you are hearing in the news, they
are just a part of the process God promised is going to come at this end
So the more we concentrate on God, the more we concentrate on the Light,
the more we concentrate on the promise of the coming of the Kingdom,
what is happening at this time is not going to affect us.
Whatever we read is not going to pull us away from God.
But we are going to have a strong foundation based on stone.
No matter what we watch, what we see, what we read, what our life
is about or where we are, we trust in God.
We surrender and submit to Him, we recognize His Will for us, and
we are not attached to anything but God.
Therefore with this teaching, with this Revelation, man has been called
again to turn around, to be baptized, to forget about their own
understandings, and to recognize God’s Understanding.
That is a struggle.
That is a jahad.
The people in the West have to recognize what was the meaning of jahad,
which was revealed through Prophet Muhammad, and the people in the East,
especially Moslems, have to recognize and realize that the teaching was
based on a deeper meaning than what people think it is.
Oregano is asking:
Some of my Baha’i friends are so confused and there is internal
persecution of some, where their Universal House of Justice is expelling
and punishing people for perhaps a thought or an opinion.
They wonder, “How could God
abandon us, maybe it is a test?”
No, it is not a test.
It is the finish of the Baha’i Teaching and religion and Revelation.
The only religion God said is not perfect is the Baha’i Revelation.
We can see that Bab brought the Revelation; He was the first
Revealer of the teaching and He brought the base of the teaching.
But He was very militant from the very beginning.
That was one of the reasons that the enmity started between the
Babies in Iran and the central government.
The destruction came to them, and many of them were martyred.
Therefore when Baha’u’llah came he tried to “water down” Bab’s teachings
as much as he could. The
teaching of Baha’i came to the point that it said, “Do not even engage
with the governmental process or political systems but concentrate on
the Baha’i teaching only, which has some truth in it.
Do not concentrate on what is now but concentrate on what is
The Baha’i teaching as we know it has split to seven already.
When those who were martyred in the Baha’i Teaching cried to God,
“When then will your Kingdom come, when will the justice come?,” God
clearly said, “Shortly.”
So shortly after the Baha’i Teaching, the last Revelation or the Justice
of God, would come to earth.
Two hundred years is a very short period of time when it took 1,000
years after Prophet Muhammad for Bab and Baha’i to come.
Therefore we can see the Baha’i people have to recognize and
realize that God said it is not perfect.
Also it goes very well with the fifth chakra or fifth level of progress.
In the fifth level, those people who reach there can travel in
the ethereal level, meet a lot of masters, do astral projection and
traveling, and have out of body experiences.
It is such a wonderful thing that they think they have reached
the end. But they still have
two more steps to go.
It is the same thing with the Baha’is.
Baha’u’llah and Bab were fantastic writers.
Persians are very well known as good poets.
Omar Khayyam, of course, is very well-known in the West.
But there are many more poets than Omar Khayyam, which are even
more famous than Khayyam in Iran and the Middle East.
So they were very good poets.
They were beautiful writers.
Their writings are fantastic, and they really put you into heaven
and take you to the fifth level of consciousness or ethereal level.
But Baha’is, just like Moslems, Hindus, Buddhists, Christians,
and Jews have to recognize that there is more than what they have
The Baha’i Teaching is no longer the one that will bring the Kingdom or
will bring the Vision that Bab and Baha’i had, but this Revelation is.
Baha’is have to recognize and realize what is happening.
If they do not, as you said, the House of Justice is becoming
more and more dictatorial.
Abdu’l Baha very clearly said, “The Baha’i without the Guardian does not
exist; it is not there.” So
you have to help your friends to recognize that more Revelations would
come shortly after Bab and Baha’u’llah, and that it is finished.
It is done.
Therefore it is not just a test.
It is a warning. It
is a realization that the Baha’i Teaching is finished; it is time to
I hope that answered your question.
We are at the end of our time this week.
Again I leave you all to God.
This is not a church to just come here once a week and think that
we have done our duty. It is
a Revelation of God, a warning.
It is serious. It is
a Call to all of you to really meditate, to struggle, to embark on a
jahad with yourself and with everything, and to recognize that you
indeed have to go with what is revealed to you and dedicate your life to
The audio of the corrected Conversation will be ready tomorrow afternoon
and you can download it or tell other people to listen to it.
And all become One. Create
Communities of Light.
Eternal Divine Path
and spread this Mission.
Go way out of what you have received before it.