What Is Unity?
What About All The Channelers, etc.?, Explain The Yin and
Yang Forces, Is It Possible To Meditate Too Much?, Could We Have
Found The Way To God Before This Life?, Can The Teachings of
Maitreya Answer The Search For, Truth Of Sincere Seekers?, Does The
Mission Teach How To Heal Yourself?
Satsang (Discourse) With
At The Feast Of Tabernacles 09/25/91
Question: What is
Maitreya: What can unite everything together?
Only God can unite everything together. There is no other way you
can unite things in the manifested world but to recognize the only
permanent thing in the universe is God, the consciousness and
creative forces. If everything is temporary, they are going to
change every minute.
You want to catch the moment, just this second. The
moment you say, "This is this second," the second is gone. That
second is no longer there. You changed. Time goes on.
Time is equal to change. That's not very hard to
understand. Even evolution is based on time. According to time,
things evolve, things change. As the situation changes, so the
reality of it changes.
That's why it has been said, "You have to live here
and now," because the moment the next time, the changes come, the
reality changes. When the reality changes you change, and you have
to make new decisions and be in different situations. When people
are in different situations, their reality is different.
We can see different nations have different
realities. Different cultures have different realities, especially
because there has not been as much communication and fast traveling
among the nations as there is today. So they were almost isolated
from each other for a long time.
If you wanted to go, for instance, from India to
Europe, you probably had to travel for a year or so. It is just like
when Marco Polo went to China. It became an event in history that he
made it from Italy all the way to China and back.
But how many people go to China every day now, not
only from Italy but from the United States? So the situation has
absolutely changed. That is another reason that we have so much
tension now on earth, because our cultures are mixing together. We
are no longer separated by barriers of seas, mountains, glaciers,
etc, because we are mixing with each other's culture. That's why
there is so much tension there.
Our reality has changed. That's again another sign.
How many signs do we need that God is telling us that we need a new
wine in a new skin? Because our reality changes, so we need a new
way of looking at this earth. That is why we see that unity between
cultures is accelerated, and more people want to become united.
They don't know how to do it though. I was listening
to the news last night. In Canada right now there is so much tension
about how to unify this country as one, because there are so many
different cultures here and each of them wants to be recognized,
respected and counted.
Before this time, the consciousness was, whoever was
the majority and powerful could make any rules they wanted to, and
it didn't matter what effect they had on the minorities or the
powerless. Now the consciousness has risen, and everyone wants to
include the minorities and the powerless, so all can become united
But they can't do it because every culture, and
every province has their own agenda, their own way of wanting to get
whatever they want. So it is going to be very hard to unify.
If all of them realized they are from God, if they
Communities of Light in every province, and the Communities of Light are formed more and more, eventually there
would be no such thing as separation between cultures. But there
would be all Communities of Light and they could be unified
So unity is only possible through God, through
unifying with God. We even cannot be unified personally. We are here
and united because we are united in the Will of God. We are united
in God, otherwise we probably wouldn't even be able to meet with one
another and agree on any specific topic. We would be different
people with different points of view.
Unity just comes through God. That is how unity is
Question: What are all about channelers and
beings of light like Ramtha? There is a channeler from Santa Fe, New
Mexico who says in his or her book that he receives his teachings
directly from God. Can it be true?
Maitreya: That is why God sends prophecies. God
foretells how His teachings will come on earth. That's why
Scriptures have been sent by God to predict and foretell how these
things are going to happen.
There are many gurus and many teachings which are
saying they are Maitreya, they are the Messiah, they are from God,
they are channeling the Hierarchy, they are channeling this one, and
they are channeling that one. If someone channels someone and is
telling you that he has the revelation from God, you have to look
first to see if their words are according to the Scriptures,
according to God's words.
Do they match the Scriptures? Is what they say
exactly the same thing that the Bible says, the Koran
says, the Bhagavad-Gita says, and the
say? Are they saying the same thing? Does it match? Because God
never changes His Mind about His Laws.
As we said, God is not changeable. He doesn't
change. Either you go to Him, or you miss Him. It is as simple as
that. He doesn't change. He is right, very strongly, on His words.
"These are the words that I said," and He doesn't change them.
As Christ said, "...Till heaven and earth pass, one
jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be
fulfilled." So God doesn't change His Mind. If someone is saying
something that is not the same as God says, watch out. Your antenna
always should go up and say, "Look, this thing is not according to
the Scriptures. It is not according to God and I cannot accept it."
As we said, there should be a norm. Psychologists
talk about abnormal people. But really there is no norm. They can't
show us what is the normal compared to the abnormal.
But God didn't do that. God sent the norm. God said,
"Here are My words, in the Scriptures. That is the way I want it."
Now you have a standard, you can look at the chart. If it is
according to the chart, according to the word of God, then you
accept it. It is good. It is the truth.
But that doesn't also mean that this word is from
God. You can pick up the Scripture and say the same thing that is in
Scripture. That is what all the preachers do, but they interpret it
in many different ways. What is the true interpretation?
That is when God prophesied that that is the way the
Messiah, the teacher, "The one that I have chosen to bring out the
word," will come. Then you have to ask such people, "What kind of
prophecy have you fulfilled?" Have you fulfilled the prophecy?
The prophecy, for instance, of unifying all the
religions of the world together, have they unified them? He
prophesied that He will not call his name Christ. Do they have such
a claim that the name Christ will be given to them, that they didn't
call themselves Christ, or, he will come from the east of Jerusalem
and the west of Tibet? Do they fulfill all those prophecies? These
are some of the prophecies that we mentioned here. There are more.
Again that is another standard you can use to see if
they are the true Messiah or not. If you find a Prophet and/or a
Messiah, and he has a better teaching than what we present here, let
me know. I'll follow him. But there are standards that God has given
us so we can look at them and then decide what is true and what is
not true. He has done it because He knows humans.
As we said, there are more teachers out there than
students. Every person can tell you the truth of what they know
about God. They can force their dogmas on you. But that is not from
God. That is dogma. That is what they understand. So that is another
thing we have to consider all the time when we encounter anyone who
claims to be a teacher.
But, of course, if we believe that this is the
teaching, that it is from God, that the prophecies are fulfilled,
and that all religions are unified, etc, then our search is
finished. We don't have to look around. If we are still looking
around, we really don't believe this.
You have to feel you are home, your search is done.
Your search is finished. You don't have anything to search for out
there. There is nothing out there. The only thing out there is the
teaching of some small realization, or a hoax.
Question: How to transcend the dualism,
physical, spiritual, of the objective and subjective world, and also
of "to be" and "to have" in the symbolism of the Tao, I-Ching?
To continue on the creation and the beginning, how
do you explain the yin and yang forces? Are they gunas?
Maitreya: Well, if you look at the I-Ching you
can see it has two colors, white and black (or blue in our case).
But you can see at the same time, there is one spot of the other
color, red, inside the I-Ching. Also if you cut the circle in half,
you cannot have half blue and half white. There is always a part of
the blue and white present there.
So the blue color in The Greatest Sign
represents the tama guna. The tama guna, as we know, is the
crudifying force in the universe. Crudifying means to make
consciousness more into matter. As consciousness becomes crudified,
the ethereal elements will be created, then aerial, then luminous or
heat, then liquid like water, and then solid factors.
As these factors are created they take the form of
the lower elements of the manifested world. For instance, ether
doesn't have any shape, doesn't have any smell, sound is not carried
in it, and it doesn't have any solidity.
When it becomes more crudified and it forms air, it
has the property of transmitting the sound. It doesn't have any
shape. It doesn't have any smell. It doesn't have any color. The
only way you can know the air is there is you have to move something
[waving his hand], you can feel it on your skin, "Yeah, it is
there." But we usually don't even realize that it is there.
When it becomes more crudified it becomes luminous
or fire, or flame. It has the property of visibility, and we can
visualize it. We can see it now.
But it is so subtle that you can see it for only a
second, and you can't see it a second later because it has
completely transformed itself to the higher elements. Also fire has
the conductivity. It conducts the heat.
When you come a little lower than fire, you come to
liquid. The liquid has shape, has smell, conducts the heat, the
sound travels in it, and it has solidity. It is more solid.
If you continue, consciousness under the influence
of tama guna becomes the solid factor. The solid factor has all the
properties of nature in it. It is visible. It conducts heat -- of
course, some of them don't but most of them do. Sound travels in it.
It is solid. It is visible. It has all the properties of the
That is how the crudifying force does it. Without
the crudifying force there wouldn't be any manifested world. So when
we are talking about the tama guna crudifies the consciousness, at
the same time the tama guna is a very useful element in the universe
because if there wasn't the tama guna, there wouldn't be any
manifestation. We wouldn't have these bodies. These bodies are here
because the tama guna kept us crudified as flesh.
So the blue part of The Greatest Sign we can
see is the symbol of the tama guna. The white symbol is the satva
guna. So in the I-Ching there is tama guna and satva guna.
Also if you realize that the I-Ching moves, if there
wasn't another element to move it, it would have just stayed there.
It wouldn't have moved. That is raja guna behind it. Raja guna is
energy. Without energy, nothing would move in the universe. It would
just stay there. It would become stuck.
Usually people only consider yin and yang. They
don't consider the third element that is the movement, the energy in
the I-Ching. Without energy, the I-Ching would just stay there and
That's why we have a dot in the middle, a red dot
which represents the energy. The red (or orange) part in The
Greatest Sign represents energy. So energy makes the I-Ching
move and become the third element.
The I-Ching really is the symbol of the three gunas,
the three creative forces in the universe. The whole universe is
created with three gunas. These three gunas crudify, or affect the
consciousness, which is Father. It is through the three gunas (which
are the creative force), (the Mother), that the Father and Mother
create the universe. Both elements are necessary. The male and
female energies are necessary to bring creation to fruition.
So the I-Ching is the symbol of the creative force
in the universe and how the universe is created with the I-Ching.
For the second part of the question, everything in
this universe, as we said, is not permanent. It has duality of male
and female, duality of up and down, right and left. But if we go
beyond this manifested world and realize that everything is created
with God, everything is a part of God, and everything comes from
that Essence, then what we look at is the consciousness behind
Consciousness is that Essence that is in everything
in the universe. So we can look at everything as a part of God which
is united together because of Him. So there is no duality for a
person who sees the Spirit of things instead of the manifestation.
When we get attached to the physical elements, the
manifestation, then there is duality. But if we see the Spirit
behind everything then we can understand why these things happen,
and why these things have been created. So we always see the hand of
God in everything, and God unifies. God brings us to the realization
that everything at the end will result in goodness.
With this realization then, when we are down and in
a bad mood, or don't understand what is happening in our lives, we
realize that God is still there. When it is good and everything is
going OK, we still know God is there. So there is no duality for us.
We stay steady. We stay one-pointed.
Really, transforming the duality means to follow the
middle path, the path of the stillness of the mind. That's why it
says, "Be still and know that I am God." When we are still in mind,
when we are still in purpose, when we are still in our realization,
then nothing affects us because we are not pulled in different
directions. When everything falls down, we are not going to be
pulled down. When everything goes down, we are not going to get too
excited about it. All the way we say, "Thanks God, it's going down,
probably there is a reason. I have to learn something. I have to
look at it in deeper levels. Maybe it is my problem, I have been
doing something wrong, or there is a lesson for me to learn." So we
meditate, we learn the lesson, we improve ourselves, and we continue
If it is going high, and everything great is
happening, you say, "Thank you very much God, you are doing
something good and eventually you are taking me from the downward."
That's one duality, isn't it, the duality of going up or going down?
You can bring that to every aspect of your life.
If there is duality, we stay steady in the middle
path, based on God. So that's how you transform the duality, by
being focused on the Spirit behind the universe instead of being
caught in the manifested world. There is duality in the manifested
world. There is stillness (non-duality) in the Spirit.
Question: Is it possible to meditate too much?
Maitreya: Yes, it sure is. We have to keep our
lives balanced, the middle path again. Too much of anything is not
We are physical, mental, and spiritual beings. So we
have to keep our physical bodies strong. The Reminder itself
is an exercise. Actually it is mostly an innersize. It is almost
like a yoga exercise. When we do it, it keeps our bodies very
Also it affects the mucus (toxins) in our bodies. It
pushes the mucus out of our bodies. As we know, mucus is a toxin in
the body. That is why mucus is formed because our bodies become
toxic. Toxins are the source of most of the diseases that people
have, because they eat foods that are toxic, they don't fast, they
don't meditate, and they don't keep their bodies in as good shape as
they should. So the toxins build up and they acquire disease.
When you do The Reminder, it actually pushes
the toxins out of our systems. That's a physical benefit. If you
don't exercise, or don't do The Reminder, your body becomes
very flabby and fat, and it will gain weight.
Why do you want to carry around a lot of weight? If
you want to do that just hang some heavy weights around your neck,
it's the same thing. If you are thirty pounds overweight, that means
you are carrying thirty extra pounds around all the time. That's a
pretty hard thing to do. It makes you tired, doesn't it?
Mentally you also have to be aware and exercise.
Reading books, discussing things together, talking about God, etc,
brings a mental alertness to you.
We can see that the physical exercise, the mental
ability and also spiritual progress are all necessary. They go hand
in hand. If you meditate too much, you become imbalanced in the
spiritual path. You become too much the other way.
Even in meditation your physical body has to be
strong to withstand the energy. That's why the yogis recommend to do
yoga with meditation. It brings balance to your body. It tones your
The body is like an antenna. The better the antenna
and the higher the antenna, the more in tune and the more you
receive the waves (the consciousness). The less your body is tuned,
the more you are out of shape, the less you receive. That's why the
physical body and keeping it in good shape is very important.
By just meditating, after awhile, because your body
is not going to be strong, you will receive messages that might not
be from God. They might be from your ego. So you become completely
One of the examples is like in India where they have
meditated for the last 2,500 years. They never economically
progressed. They never progressed too much in the physical world.
And what has happened? Around 700 million people are there in that
country and economically there is not much to offer. There is
disease, there is poverty, etc. So if you meditate too much, you
fall too far from mental and physical abilities.
As I heard, someone was in the Philippines, in one
of those countries, and a child fell into the water. No one rescued
him. Then he asked why no one rescued him and they said, "Well, that
was his destiny to fall into the water and die."
See, their mental ability is completely lost. Their
spiritual progress came so far that everything was based on karma
and dharma. So you don't have to rescue the child. He should die
because, "That is his destiny to fall into the water." You see the
imbalance there? They fell the other way.
God has given us mental ability. Why? If He wanted
us to just completely trust in Him blindly and not use our senses,
why did He give us mental ability, senses, and all those things?
So too much meditation can also make you imbalanced.
Question: Is it possible that we could have
found the way to God before the present life? Do we have to find and
travel along the path each time we come on earth in a body of flesh?
: Well, you could have found God in
other lifetimes, a part of Him. As we discussed, God is infinite. So
you could have found a little of Him.
Actually, I believe those people who are connected
have been meditating and were in the Path for many lifetimes. They
were longing and wanting to know this for a long time.
In a sense, you have probably realized a lot about
God and His ways, etc. When you came here you were prepared to
receive even more. But as the Bible
says, God is going to be a mystery until the seventh angel comes.
No matter how much we realize about God in other
lifetimes, He is going to be a mystery to us because we don't know
all about Him. We don't know the seven seals. We don't know that all
the religions are from God, they are unified, and everything. So
still It's going to be a mystery, no matter how much in other
lifetimes we have recognized about God.
Also, as we said, what do you mean by "knowing" God?
Knowing God is a process, it's an everyday process of realizing Him
every day a little more. So you might have realized some about God
but not everything.
As you realize more and you come back in this
lifetime, if you realize God truly, then you realize His Will. If
you realize His Will, then when you return you want to do His Will.
In a sense, only if God takes us to Himself, by Grace, can we know
Him completely, and absolutely, not by our effort, or by our work.
As is in our teaching, you remember that He said,
"If you want to come to Me by effort, I'm going to spue you out of
my mouth." Why does He want to do that? If you just do yoga and
meditation, and do not do His Will and do not manifest His Work,
what He's going to do is say, "No, no, don't come in. Get out of
here. Go back and do the work. You cannot come in yet." Eventually
little by little, more people are going to come in, and eventually
we will all be there.
But it is a process, and it is not something that
you can know God completely. We don't know God completely unless He
opens the door and we start entering into His Kingdom.
Question: Can the teaching of Maitreya
answer the search or quest of the few people sincerely searching for
fourteen or sixteen years about a God they finally consider as
eminent, universal, and transcendental, who surpasses the duality?
Maitreya: Not only that, He is even going to
teach you that He is not only transcendental but He is also
everything and everywhere. All the time He is present with you. Not
only is everything in God, but everything is God. And not only is
God everything, but God is also beyond everything. So He is
transcendental and also creative.
See God is not like us that if He wants something He
just goes to the store on the corner and buys whatever He wants. The
only material He had was Himself and the creative forces. So He had
to create everything from Himself. He actually used Himself to
create the universe.
If we can see that everything is God, then we can
see He is not only transcendental, He is beyond our minds and
brains. Wherever you look is God. There is nothing which is not God.
If you reach that point then again, that unity that you were asking
about, about how can we become unified, comes in doesn't it?
We can look at everything and see, well, God is
there. That is a part of God. Whatever is manifested in this
universe is a part of God. So if everything is God, He is not only
transcendental but He is everything.
With that an even greater realization comes to us
because whatever we do also is done by God. When we take care of our
child, God is doing it through us. When we have a patient, or have a
friend, or teach someone, or anything we do to others, or talk about
the Mission or this revelation, all those things are done by
God. We are just the observer.
Actually, as long as we think that we are the doer,
God sits up there and enjoys it. He says, "Look at this child, he
thinks he is the doer." We do all these things, we get tired, yell,
and say, "What is this life that I have to do all of these things?"
It is so difficult, we have to run and do, and all those things.
But the moment you realize that God is the doer, you
sit back and say, "Hey, I am not the doer, God is the doer." Then
you become the enjoyer because God is doing everything and you have
become the observer. Then you can sit back (sit back in the sense of
becoming an observer of what you do) and say, "Great, look at these
great things that are happening, and I am not doing anything at all.
I am just the observer." Who can do things better, you or God? Of
course, God can.
As long as our ego says, "I am the doer," our ego is
doing things. We are trying to figure everything out. But the moment
we sit back and say, "God is doing it through me," then God is going
to do through us. He is going to do, and He is a better doer than we
are. So things are going to get done in an even greater degree, in
even better ways then we would do them ourselves.
Of course, we have to purify ourselves more and
more. All these things the Mission has given and all these
words of God that have come to us, are to purify us. The more we are
purified, the more God manifests through us. And God is perfect, so
we become perfect.
As Christ said, "Be ye perfect as the Father in
Heaven is perfect." How can we become perfect as the Father is
perfect? By purifying ourselves. Through purification, eventually
His Spirit will manifest through us and we will become perfect as He
is, because He is the doer. He is the Spirit behind us.
With that you completely transcend your work and
consciousness. You realize God, not only as transcendental but that
He is here and now. Of course, it is probably very easy right now in
this environment and this energy to look at it and say, "Yes, it
But probably two weeks from now, when you are out in
the world, it will all be forgotten. You will be running around and
all these teachings will be forgotten. This makes us remember that
these teachings can best be practiced in the Communities of Light.
So we go back to the Communities of Light.
If we create more Communities of Light with
this kind of mentality and understanding, more and more we can be in
this energy and this way of looking at the world. Eventually in the
Communities of Light no one will be working, in the sense that
they are doing anything, but God will be working through them.
For instance, someone cooks something for me and I
say, "That's delicious." They say, "I didn't cook it. God did it."
That's great. So whenever we do something good and perfect, it is
God. When we do something that is not perfect, it is our doing.
One more question and then we will wrap it up
Question: Is Maitreya healing people, and
is it possible for some people to ask Maitreya to be healed
as Esa was doing? Do you have any kind of ritual or spiritual
service for the healing of people, and does Maitreya teach
his disciples how to heal?
Maitreya: This topic has come up many times in
and we have a lot of literature about healing. Probably the person
who had this question can read that literature. You can ask the Mission to send you all the literature about healing.
But there is one question here, "Does the Mission
do techniques or are there ways that you can learn how to heal
yourself?" Yes, we do.
The Reminder, as I said, is a practice of
healing. The Sabbaths of fasting are a process of healing. When you
fast on Sabbath, you stop your system and your system has time to
get on with those parts of your body that it never had time to heal,
and it starts cleaning them.
That's how the body works. If you keep eating, and
eating, and eating, the body doesn't have time to burn out the fats
that we eat. It says, "I'll put this fat here. I'll put this fat
here. I'll burn them out later on."
It is just like if we have a lot of work to do and
it keeps coming, you say, "Well, I'll do the important things first.
I'll put these away which are not so important. When I have time, I
will get to them." But if the work keeps coming you never get to
those things because you never have time.
That is exactly what happens to the body too. When
we just keep eating, and eating, and eating, the body says, "Let's
put this fat here, put that fat there." We start getting body fat
because the body doesn't have time to burn them.
So the Sabbath fast is a very good healing process.
Actually, you can fast ten days of the thirty days each month
without jeopardizing your health. You can actually fast one third of
your life if you want to. If you live for ninety years, you can fast
for thirty years. Of course, not continually [all laughing].
You can fast four times a month on the Sabbaths.
According to our teaching, you can fast eight days a month: the four
Sabbaths, the full moon, the first moon, eleven days after the full
moon, and eleven days after the first moon. Of course, if you are
lucky, one of those eleven days or moons falls on a Sabbath [all
laughing]. So you can fast so much and it won't bother you. That's
another way of healing yourself.
Another thing is while you are fasting, pray. Prayer
is a kind of healing, as when Christ came to his disciples and they
couldn't heal that man. He was possessed with unclean spirits, and
he would fall into the fire and then into the water. He went to his
disciples and his disciples said, "We can't heal him. What is wrong?
You gave us power. What happened to the power you gave us?" He said,
"You don't have enough faith." But then he added also that, that can
be done "only by prayer and fasting." So fasting and prayer is
See, that all was given so that you learn how to
heal yourself. Again, as Christ said, "When the unclean spirit is
gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and
findeth none. Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence
I came out, and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and
garnished. Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other
spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there:
and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so
shall it be also unto this wicked generation." So we can see that if
someone heals another person, it will not last. The person who is
healed has not learned how to heal himself.
He said, "When someone is healed," he didn't say
when someone heals himself or herself. When someone is healed, or
even I heal someone, that spirit goes out and finds seven more and
says, "Let's go, the house is clean and we can go back and occupy
the house. So the state of the person becomes worse than it was
For instance, you see on television these people
come, and the preacher heals one after another. He goes like that
[laying hands on them] and they get healed right away. But if that
were true, no one should be in the hospital [laughing] because these
preachers could just go and heal everyone. Then why do we have all
these hospitals if they can heal so fast, one after another?
That is why we stopped healing. God revealed to us,
as explained above, that it doesn't work. But with meditation,
fasting, prayer, observance of the Sabbath, becoming more and more
pure, and letting God's energy come through you, you heal yourself.
Because He is the healing power.
What did Christ use to heal the other people? He
used God's energy, didn't He? He used The Holy Ghost. Isn't that
Holy Ghost available to you also? How do you get to The Holy Ghost?
You get there by practicing what the Mission has given
you, and little by little you purify yourself,
physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually.
You are healed physically with good food, good
energy, and a good environment. You are healed mentally with good
company, good books, and good people around you. You are healed
emotionally with meditation and knowing yourself. And spiritually
you are healed by understanding God. Then you eventually learn to do
At the end, no matter how much you even heal
yourself, your body is going to go because nothing in the manifested
universe is forever. As we just said, manifested means change. The
moment we are born, we start dying. Life and death are absolutely
If healing myself is equal with doing nothing else,
just meditating and doing yoga, than what good is this life? There
is nothing left for you but doing yoga and meditation to keep this
physical body in good shape. It doesn't matter how much effort you
put on it, eventually, it is going to age, it's going to get
crooked, and it will go.
So the best way is just to do the Will of God and
whatever He does to your body, just let Him do it. Actually he will
keep your body as long as he needs it and you are doing His Will.
The moment you stop doing His Will, probably, if you have come here
just to do His Will, and you are not doing His Will, your body is
going to go, no matter how much you pray and fast and all of that.
If you are spiritual, you are not afraid of death
either. The spiritual person knows, "This body is finished, fine."
You leave it there and you go get another one. Maybe you will get a
better one, who knows?