Sal-OM everyone. Welcome to the room for Further
I can see that there are already a couple of
questions on the floor.
We will go ahead and try to answer them.
If there is a beginning, there must be a cause
for that beginning.
That is what we call intellectual curiosity and
our desire to explain what is unexplainable, something
that is beyond mind and the three creative forces.
The intellectuals have been trying to explain the
cause and how the creation was created. They have
written hundreds and thousands of books and essays and
tried to tackle that question.
Still the question remains: "What was the cause,
and where did God come from?
If there was God who created God Himself?"
However, the Mystic who experiences the state of
Oneness, comes back and says, "God exists.
There is no cause for It.
It has not been created but He has created all
Many times in our explanations we have clearly said that
God is not explainable intellectually, but It is an
When you experience God, then you know there was
He has been here, He is here, and He will be here
is in eternity and therefore, the infinity, eternity,
Creator with no beginning and cause will be completely
revealed to you.
Even after you experience It, when you come back, you
cannot explain It again to any one but you say, "Yes, I
have experienced It.
I know it is possible."
Those intellectual questions should be put aside, and
instead we should follow the recommendations of the
Close your eyes, meditate, and eventually experience The
Word, the vibration within you.
One day you will experience infinity, God, and
unity, and you will clearly realize that there is no
cause for God but there is a beginning in creation.
If you are looking for the cause of the creation, it
started with the release of the energy that has created
the whole universe.
Eventually that energy will be exhausted and the
whole universe will fold on itself and the darkness will
be prevalent for billions of billions of years.
As Indian Philosophy believes, there are days of God and
there are nights of God.
When the creation continues, those are the days.
When it folds on itself, those are the nights
that many Prophets said it is going to be the gnashing
of the teeth, cold, and a terrible place to be.
So if you really want to know the answer, find it deep
What is infinity?
All those questions are the questions of the mind
and cannot be explained until it is experienced.
Aleph Yud Ayin:
Before the beginning there was nothing.
That is not true.
That is a wrong answer.
Before the beginning of this creation there was
still God, and He was, He is, and He will be forever.
That conclusion again is an intellectual
It is not from the experience.
Evolution or creation?
God created the creation in an evolutionary manner.
He perfected things as things evolved, or as
things reached higher consciousness there was a need for
new beings, or creation, or progress.
Any time a group of creation did not progress
enough, or was not fast enough to go to higher
consciousness, He destroyed them, or He evolved a branch
of them to a new state and the rest were not incarnated
or brought back for many lifetimes, or many lifetimes
later they became incarnated in a different branch that
has already been evolved to a higher level.
It is just like the dinosaurs.
Many of them evolved to the birds that we see
right in our back yards or anywhere we go.
Many of them were destroyed because they became
too big, too lazy, and were not evolving.
They were consuming a lot of energy but would not
go to a higher level.
There is no conflict between evolution and
creation. The explanation is that God created the
creation in an evolutionary way.
He constantly perfects, and pushes the creation to the
higher level of evolvement.
Therefore there is no conflict.
We do not see a conflict.
There is no conflict.
God indeed is in charge of the creation and
Those who fight over these things again are
intellectualizing things and they are going for,
The Mission again unifies between
evolutionists and creationists, and teaches them that
both are correct and there is no separation between the
Then why does Maitreya say that the human
Well, you received your answer right there before
It is because God created in an evolutionary way.
In the beginning there was darkness.
Man fell from The Grace.
Man fell away from God, and therefore they
God created the universe to help this darkness to go
back to the Light or God.
That process is the process of evolving from the
very darkness toward returning to the Light.
It is like the part that went to the darkness is in the
cave. But at
the end of the cave there is a Light that is outside,
which is God.
In order to go and enter that Light or entrance,
you have to walk through the cave, which is still
darkness, until you reach the entrance and Light.
The closer you come to the Light, the bigger the
Light will become.
Eventually you evolve yourself to come closer to
the entrance and exit the darkness, to the Light.
That is how it has worked.
God created the whole creation to help humanity to
recognize that they have done wrong.
They used their free will to separate themselves
from Him/Her/It and therefore now it is time to turn
around and walk toward the Light.
That makes it to evolve toward the higher level
Therefore again, evolving is not against creation.
God created the creation in an evolutionary manner.
There is no conflict between the two.
I hope this answers your question.
If you have a follow-up, go ahead.
There is another question.
Someone is posting it.
If there is no reason for God, then God has no
reason and this makes Him incomplete.
Again, that is an intellectual explanation.
There does not have to be a reason.
God just is.
There is no awareness of "I," that relates
everything outside in this world as, "I have to
have to have a job.
I have to do something."
God is beyond mind, therefore, all these things that you
try to explain is the human mind.
God cannot be explained.
So God is lack of intelligence?
God is beyond mind.
Actually God is the pure intelligence.
Intellect is different than intelligence.
That is why we recommend that you go and study our
There is a clear explanation:
The difference between intellect and
Intelligence does not try to explain things away and
satisfy the intellectual curiosity.
An intelligent person knows the answer.
So there are two different states of being.
Intelligence actually evolves when the person
goes beyond intellect and reaches intuition.
Such a person, with the higher intuition, is more
intelligent than an intellectual that wastes his time
trying to explain something that is unexplainable.
We have said many times, "God cannot be explained but It
can be experienced."
You have to close your eyes, listen to the Revelations
of God, see who has been prophesied to come and reveal
the ultimate truth to humanity, and when you find that,
not just follow your own intellectual curiosity and
create questions on top of questions on top of questions
that never will be answered.
Aleph Yud Ayin:
I have heard that reason is the voice of the
devil, and that conscience is the voice of The Holy
do you say about that?
Yes, in one level you are correct in what you
However, we do not believe in the devil.
We concentrate on God and the Light. The devil is
the lack of the presence of God, and since God is
everything and present everywhere, where is the devil?
The only devil that exists is our ego, which is like an
umbrella over our heads, and we are not letting the
light that has come to earth, as this Revelation, to
penetrate and reach our consciousness.
Therefore devil as explained with the
Judeo/Christian/Islamic/Baha'i teachings, really does
It is not a being.
It is an illusion of separation from God.
If you shatter that illusion then you and God
become One and there is no devil left for you.
Of course, it is easier to concentrate on the devil and
make the followers and those people in these religions
so afraid of the devil that they submit themselves to
the oppressive teachings and untrue dogmas.
Therefore, they can bind the followers to untruth
and dogmatic beliefs.
The truth and ultimate realization is that it is your
ego that separates you from God, and you think there is
a devil. But
it is you really who is the devil.
You are the person that does not want to listen
to God, does not want to close your eyes to meditate.
You do not want to accept God's Word, but you
want to have your own intellectual curiosity, opinions,
Aleph Yud Ayin:
So Zoroastrianism is false?
Zoroastrians, like all other religions, are
explaining things in a symbolic way.
When he said the Ahriman is fighting back with
God, when he said those things, it seemed to people that
he was talking about a person.
Actually, it was the influence of the Zoroastrian
religion that Abraham and Abram were from, that created
the base for the Judeo/Christian/Islamic/Baha'i
Therefore, he is the founder of the realization that
there is a force that is fighting back with the Light
and God. He
called it Ahriman.
Later on it evolved to devil.
Actually it came from divas in the Hindu religion, which
they believe as angels.
Zoroaster called them the devil although
Zoroaster himself was from the Aryan Race, which the
That became a point of contention between the Persians,
who also were the Aryan Race, and came as a branch from
the north of India and settled in the north of Persia.
Eventually Zoroaster came and brought the new teaching
and separated God and Ahriman into two different beings.
The Hindus and Persians became enemies for a long
are epics in Persian poetry that explain the wars
between the Persians and the people who had the devils,
etc. So for
a long time there was this fight between them. The epic
in the Bhagavad-Gita also might be referring to
the same wars that happened between the Indians and
Persians because they started going to different
The Hindus stayed Hindu.
They believed in Atman, God, and the unity of man
The Persians started preaching two beings as God and the
Eventually Abram, or Abraham, who went south of Persia
and ended up in Iraq, or Ur, started opposing the
followers of the people in Ur who had statues.
Therefore an enmity started between them.
The people in Ur chased Abraham out of their
is why he had to leave and go to other places.
Eventually he received his own Revelation and
understanding, and started the Hebrew Race.
Actually Hebrews, Arabs, and a lot of people have the
That is why my genealogy matches with the Hebrew
Race because I am from the area it came from.
We can see the devil, or Ahriman, is the theory that
started with the Zoroastrians but it is symbolic.
It means there is a struggle between God and
that struggle is not a being.
It is within you.
It is you who is struggling with God.
It is your ego.
It is the feeling of separation, Maya, and the
delusion of being separate from God, which creates that
you purify yourself and recognize the creation, history,
and the power of Maya, which some people say is as
strong as God Himself, then you start to turn around, be
baptized, concentrate on Light and God instead of
concentrating on the devil, and purify yourself.
One day you feel the unity with God.
But the devil, Ahriman, and all of that are symbolic; it
is not a being that exists, but a quality that the human
has to overcome.
Aleph Yud Ayin:
Is Ahriman the same as a personification of sin?
The sin is going against the universal set-up.
The universe has been set up for a special
our teaching indicates, it is to go back to Light, to
So all the Laws, or Daharmas of the universe, are
to help us to discipline ourselves more and more and
follow the most natural way of living that God intended
us to live.
By understanding these Laws we become more and more in
tune with the Laws of the universe.
Not only we do not create sin, which is the same
as creating karma, we also can set an example for other
people not to want to do sin, but to purify themselves,
stop sinning, and go back to God.
So devil is really the ego or our illusion of separation
from God, having our own opinions and ideas, and wanting
to explain the Daharma of the things not according to
what God created them to be.
Therefore in meditation and progress and reading
the Scriptures, and knowing about the Laws and the Ways
of God, little by little we clear and clean our lives.
We go more and more toward the Daharma of things,
the nature of things, "Why is this thing created?
What did God create it for?"
There is a purpose and reason for it.
Find that and follow it!
Do not go against the nature of things that God
created to be.
By this you will not do sin.
It is as simple as that.
But apparently because of the attachments, desires, wants,
and the impulses that humans have in their bodies, they
do not listen to their higher self but they listen to
their lower self.
That is why we have such a mess on earth, and
religions become dogmas.
Humans have their opinions and ideas.
They do not listen and/or read the Scriptures,
and God's Way.
Then they wonder why they have wars, destruction,
separation, and all the vices that humans are living in,
and they separate themselves from each other and have a
hard time creating Communities of Light.
That is because they still are full of desires
and wants, and they cannot bring the Garden of Eden or
oneness with God back to humanity.
Therefore the devil or Ahriman or whatever you want to
call that state, is the state of the willfulness of man.
The only free thing humanity has is the will.
The will cannot be destroyed, cannot be changed,
unless a person realizes that their will is the ego
will, is the lower nature will, is the earthly will, and
they submit that will to the higher Will, which is the
Godly Will and say, "Well, I do not have any opinion,
any idea, but I will listen to the Scriptures and God
and therefore I will clean up my life and will not go
against those Laws."
Those Laws have been given in nature.
It is very easy to understand them by
concentrating and contemplating.
If you cannot understand them go to the Scriptures go to
THOTH, go to the Satsangs.
Come here and ask, "Is that OK to do this or
try to explain what God's Way is.
You can say Ahriman is the same as the personification
of sin, which is ego.
Yes, indeed, it is not a being.
I hope that answered your question.
Aleph Yud Ayin:
What is the etymology of the term "GOD," there is
a similar term in the Hebrew scriptures denoting a
tribe, "Gad," a son of Jacob, Israel?
I have read that God comes from the word "Goat."
God has had many names throughout history.
But we can clearly see that when Moses asked God,
"What is your name?" He said, "I am that I am."
In Genesis we see that Adam gave names to
everything that God created.
So God relates to everything in the universe as
what they are.
It does not have any name or anything.
It is the human who loves to give names to things.
Then they become attached to those names and if
another culture calls it differently, they become angry
at each other and try to create wars and separation.
In the essence there is no vibration, there is no
ability to create wars in the way that we can do it in
this manifested world.
Therefore, God is Nameless, Formless, Invisible,
Actually the Hebrews and the Arabs used to call God, The
Since He created the universe He had to use the
vibration and therefore, He used The Word, or the
Creative Force in the universe.
That Creative Force, or Word, is in every living
being in the universe from the atom to the highest
That Word is what we call The Holy Name, or
Creative Forces, and is revealed to those who come close
to the Mission, in four initiations.
In truth, God has no Name, and God, as it is used in
English could have come from the Generator, Operator,
and Destroyer, the qualities of God.
It is not really a name.
But, of course, they call Him Jehovah, Yahweh, Allah,
Yah, Krishna, Buddha, Shiva, Vishnu, many, many names
that each culture becomes very attached to and think
that is the name of God.
But really, in the essence, in the highest level,
there is no vibration in the essence, and therefore
there cannot be a name.
God clearly said, "I am that I am." He did not give any
name to anything, but Adam did. We can see all the
evidence says that God does not have any name, as anyone
on earth put a name on Him, with any vibration, they are
But if you know The Word and the vibration that It
creates within you, then you can know the Creative
only that Creative Force within you is amazingly
powerful, but also you can use it to heal yourself.
You can use it to receive answers.
It can give you spiritual powers.
But if you misuse them, the moment you misuse
your powers, The Word will be gone.
It is finished.
You are not going to hear it anymore until you
purify yourself again and win God’s Mercy.
Again, here in this Mission the highest state of
God has been explained.
Those who still fight over what was the Name of
God are guided to realize that they cannot do that.
Therefore realize that God is Nameless, Formless,
Invisible, and Eternal.
We have reached the end of our time.
This is the time that if you have any more
questions left, you can bring it up at this time.
If you do not have any questions, of course, that
would be our time with you for today.
If there are no other questions, think about these
Go to our website and if you have questions during the
month, send them to us.
It would always be nicer if we receive them
before the session so I can meditate on them in a deeper
level and even go to the website to see what is answered
to that question.
If there is further explanation we can go ahead
and add to whatever we have in the website.
The questions in the website are pretty much perfected.
If you go there and search for your questions,
probably you will get tons of answers there.
So I will leave you all to God, and we will see you next