Feast Of Tabernacles
Welcome everyone to the room today.
Maitreya is with us here today.
We see His name there on the list.
Our set-up here in this particular session is
that we open up the room to any general questions.
Lou actually has one that we are going to start
off with, but other questions will be welcome also.
We will pose the question.
Maitreya will answer this one.
But then any other question, pose it, and then we
will all discuss it, talk about it, and see how we would
answer that question.
It could be a difficult question that you have
heard here in PalTalk.
Or, it could be a difficult question that someone
has asked you about the teaching that you did not quite
know how to answer, and maybe you would like to hear
another way that someone else might answer that
Today we are going to start off with Lou’s question.
I am going to post it here in the text area.
It has a couple of verses behind it to
substantiate the question. Here is the first one from Genesis, 15:13:
“And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that
thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not
theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict
them four hundred years…”
Here is the second verse from Exodus, 12:40:
“Now the sojourning of the children of Israel,
who dwelt in Egypt, was four hundred and thirty years.”
The question from Lou:
You asked us to
distinguish between Abram and Abraham.
Why then did the seed of Abraham become a
stranger in the land of Egypt and not the seed of Abram?
The seed of Abraham is the Children of Israel.
The seed of Abram is the Ishmaelites or the
That question is about the suffering of the
Israelites, or the Children of Abram, or Abraham; which
one was to endure the four hundred years of suffering?
If you noticed, the verse that has been quoted here is
If you have your Bible, if you look at
that verse, God had not changed the name of Abram to
Therefore, He was telling Abram what was going to happen
to his children, which of course, Abram had Ishmael
first and Isaac later.
It is just like my name was Mohammed, and God would come
to me and say I am going to have a child by the name of
would He have addressed me?
He would have told me, “Mohammed, you are going
to have a son called Isaac.”
However, when I had the son, by then my name was
I did not know that.
And Abram did not know that.
God knew that.
But He was talking to Abram at this time.
At this time He was saying that something is
going to happen to Abram, but He was not revealing to
him that his name was going to be Abraham.
He had not even had a concubine to have Ishmael
chapter 17, verse 5, it is the first time that God said,
“Neither shall thy name be any more called Abram, but
thy name shall be Abraham;…” and from then on God called
Therefore from then on he was no longer called Abram but
So again our teaching stands correct because before that he was
called Abram, and therefore God was addressing him as
God changed the name, he became Abraham.
Also in Exodus as you see it says, “Now the suffering of the
Children of Israel,..” it does not say the Children of
in that verse in chapter 15 of Genesis, most
probably God was referring to the Children of Israel,
not to the Children of Ishmael.
It is possible that the Children of Ishmael also went through a
period of suffering.
That is because we really do not know what
happened to them.
Ishmael went to the desert with his mother and he
was saved by a well that they found.
So a mother, a son, and then Ishmael married
They probably struggled for a long time before they
became a nation.
But the Bible is very silent about what
happened to Ishmael from then on, until later on when
they become a great nation by God.
It might have also been referring to Ishmael;
they went through the struggle for the same period of
time that the Children of Israel went through it.
We have to go and study the history and probably find out more
about the Ishmaelites.
What happened to them after they went to the well
and continued their life until they became a great
is not inconceivable that it would take four hundred
years before they would become a great nation from one
man with twelve sons.
Again that is a possibility that also God was talking
about Ishmael who would go through a period of struggle
for the same period of time.
Either way, it does not affect our teachings that
his name was Abram and the child of Abram was Ishmael.
God changed his name to Abraham, the father of
many nations, and the child of Abraham, of course, was
The rest of the Bible concentrates on Isaac and his
The only thing we hear later is that the Arabs become a
great nation, and than a Prophet came from them, which
has been promised to come also from Ishmael.
I hope that answered your question.
If you have a follow-up, go ahead, otherwise we
will continue with our room and the program in it.
I see that Lou has typed, “That is fine.”
He does not have a follow-up.
We would like to open the room now to any general
questions that anyone would like to post first, before
we go to our list of questions.
Don’t be shy.
Just go ahead and speak up, or, type in text.
That is fine.
We can all brainstorm it and see what we can come
I have a question:
I was reading about dogmas on maitreya.org.
There is a verse that says that any religion,
ideology, etc. that divides people will be known as
dogmas and will not be supported.
But in Luke, chapter 12, verses 49 to 53, Esa
said that he came to divide.
Just so everyone can be thinking about it, I am
going to read Luke, 12:49-53 to support that
Starting with verse 49:
“I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I,
if it be already kindled?
But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how
am I straitened till it be accomplished!
Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth?
I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
For from henceforth there shall be five in one
house divided, three against two and two against three.
The father shall be divided against the son, and
the son against the father; the mother against the
daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the
mother in law against her daughter in law, the daughter
in law against her mother in law.”
So how would we answer someone who asked that question
about dogmas and division?
Here is the way I would answer it.
Esa was bringing a new teaching to humanity, the
opening of the Third Seal.
He was taking people and dividing them to the
Father, bringing them back to the Father.
He was not dividing them from the Father.
I hope that is clear.
Yes, I think the division between one family
means that one person in the family will understand the
message and the others, the brother, the sister, etc.,
will not. So
there will be division because one will understand, and
the others will not.
The division will be from there, I think.
Well, another way too to look at that word from
the teaching standpoint is that everything can be from
There can be division from knowledge, or from passion,
or from ignorance.
Ignorance would be the dogmas that divide man.
But if there is a division in the level of
knowledge, then this is what God is doing right now.
This is the time of sundering, which is the
separating of the wheat and the chaff.
That has been prophesied and predicted.
There is that division known from that angle too.
I am not sure it still addressed the idea talked about,
Actually it does, come to think about it.
Dogma in that level of knowledge can be a truth
too. So we
have to just say, what level are we working with here,
knowledge, passion, or ignorance?
There was one thing that I was thinking that it
could also be dividing from the lower self to the higher
Could you explain further?
That was too masterful [laughing].
Well, from the lower self, meaning the lower
chakras and the things that are the Maya in the world
that pull us down and away from our true self, and
overcoming, and being baptized in the Spirit, going to
the higher self and following the Path to God, following
the Eternal Divine Path.
OK, anyone else?
The question is, Christ said he has come to
say we have come to unify.
At the same time we say it is the time of
How do the two go together, to unify and to sunder at
the same time?
How is that possible?
That is the question.
I suppose no one else is there to take the challenge.
I think there were good answers there.
Some of them were very simple, right to the
of them were more complicated, and probably the person
asking the question has to be in a very high level to
decipher the meaning that has been presented to them.
We have many different people come to our room,
so that is OK.
The teaching surely has unified all religions.
I am sure those who followed Christ and became
Christians at that time became unified.
They became community.
Therefore he did unify them together as
Eventually many millions of people unified under the
Christian banner, or the cross.
At the same time as we see in our teaching, in the
families that see the Vision, many have a problem among
The father against the child, the mother against the
daughter, the husband against the wife, and the wife
against the husband.
We can see they see the Vision, but their
families and spouses and the people around them do not.
Even me myself, when I received the Revelation and I
said to my family, “I am going to do this,” everyone
dropped me like lead.
Have I brought unity among my family?
No, it was a division even between them and me.
That is the division that Christ is talking about here.
Although he would unify those who were
Christians, at least in the beginning, many would oppose
opposed their children, their families.
And it has happened in every new Revelation that
came to humanity.
There were even people at the time of Prophet Muhammad
who joined him and went to Mecca with him.
They had war, and many of their fathers were on
the other side.
So they had to actually fight and have war
against each other.
In the Bhagavad-Gita, Krishna is fighting with
people that are family of Arjuna.
Arjuna is fainthearted, falls down, and says, “I
cannot do that.
These are all my uncles, my brothers, and my
cannot fight them.”
Krishna comes in and says, “No, you have to.
You have to do your duty.
It is the new wine in the new skin, and you have
to continue teaching them, continue to try to help them
to bring them to see the Vision, to change their
We can see that division is different than the unity
that Krishna brought to his camp with Arjuna.
Arjuna and his army were united under Krishna’s
teachings, abilities, and revelations.
At the same time the other people were against
Therefore they had to have a war.
Christ was talking about the same thing.
The new teaching unifies.
At the same time it sunders.
Those who see the Vision unify together and bring
the new teaching and revelation to humanity.
Those who do not see the Vision will probably not
be reincarnated for a long time, especially in this last
Revelation to humanity.
I hope that answers the question.
If you have a follow-up, go ahead.
Maitreya, we lost part of that last
Can you hear me now?
Apparently we had some technical difficulties
here, and we lost sound.
We had to go completely out of PalTalk and come
there was a lag when Shirin was talking.
I do not know how much you did not hear.
Basically the answer was that Christ came, and those who
went under his banner and teachings were unified.
Those who opposed it were sundered.
It has happened in every new revelation.
It happened to Prophet Mohammed.
It happened to Krishna.
The whole epic of the Bhagavad-Gita is
about how Krishna unified Arjuna and his people under
his banner, and Arjuna’s family were against them.
So they were sundered.
That is also true for this Mission.
We have experienced the same thing.
Those who see this Vision and come to the
Mission are unified under these teachings.
Those who oppose it, including the families,
spouses, mothers, fathers, sons, all kinds of people who
oppose them, might be sundered.
That is basically the answer to that question.
When Christ was talking about that he has come to
divide, he did not come to divide his own people who
follow him but those who do not follow him.
That was the gist of it.
I hope that answered the question.
Elyas had a question, or a comment rather.
I just posted it there in text [it was a question
about, If the Revelations
from God will continue forever.]
We asked him if he had a follow-up.
It looks like maybe he does.
Elyas, if you would like to type it that would be
OK, what was the answer to that question?
We talked about how God furthered His Plan by the
coming of each Prophet, that each Prophet had a part of
one plan to reveal, and that each Prophet did in his own
way say that he finished his mission.
But that there would be seven sections, or Seven
Seals, that would reveal all of God’s Messages, and in
the Seventh Seal all would be totally revealed.
So not only did God reinforce His Message with
the new Prophets but also the message evolved itself and
now it is fully revealed in the Seventh Seal, but that
each of the Prophets did not come and say the same
The question sounds like a Baha’i kind of understanding
that there are going to be Prophets coming forever to
bring new revelations.
But that is not the case.
The case is that there was a Plan that there
would be Seven Seals and revelations.
As you explained, eventually it is going to stop.
That Plan would eventually be revealed as the final
There will be enough Elects to come together and create
the Kingdom for at least 1,000 years.
The Baha’is teaching, although it has some truth, is not
So the answer you all gave is correct.
What I learned in Christianity about Esa said
that he came to divide is, divide from darkness to
is what I understand about that verse.
I do not know if there is another meaning.
Maybe there is more than one meaning for each
No, it is the same meaning.
The people who do not see the Vision, that have
not been meditating for 12,000 years, that have not
progressed, that are not open to new revelations and new
teaching, are in darkness.
They are still hanging onto their dogmas and
religions and believing that what they have is the last
Therefore, they will not go to the new Revelation.
God said there are going to be seven Revelations.
They say, “No. We have one
part of it, and we have all the truth.”
That is why they cannot explain everything.
But we can.
That is why the light on this earth really is this Revelation.
Those who do not join it are in darkness.
Again it is the same thing.
The Christ unifies by his teaching, by the new
But those who are of the darkness do not accept it.
They want to stay in the darkness; therefore they
sunder themselves from God.
Again it goes to the free will.
If they had not exercised their free will to go
away from God, we would not have all this darkness,
creation, teaching, revelation, the Prophets, the
struggle, and the history.
All these things are to teach humanity that there
is a purpose in life; there is a reason for this
The purpose is to follow the
Eternal Divine Path, reach Pure Consciousness, and become
So this is the Light.
Those who join this Light become unified under
the Light, those who do not, exercise their free will to
stay in darkness.
It is as simple as that, and that is what Christ
is talking about here.
I hope all this made sense. If
you have a follow-up, go ahead.
Otherwise we will continue to the next question.
The next question asked was:
People say the universe is perfect, yet the
Mission teaches it is not.
How can we explain this?
This is like a pop quiz from yesterday.
If anyone goes to our website you will see a lot about perfect and Pure
Consciousness, and so forth.
A lot of people go around and say, “Well, the
universe is perfect.”
We accept that as some kind of truth.
says, “No, the universe, the creation, is not perfect.
It has decay.
It has deterioration.
It is not permanent.
It is not the ultimate.
So it cannot be perfect.”
To be perfect (we talked about this yesterday too) is beyond these kinds
So the universe is not a permanent experience.
It is not the ultimate experience.
The ultimate experience would be to be(come) in
His Image again and reach Pure Consciousness.
That is one way to look at it, about how the universe is not perfect.
The question is that some people come and say,
“Well, everything is perfect, we do not have to do
are already perfect.
We are already god.
We do not need the
Eternal Divine Path.
We do not need the Messiah.
We do not need the Scriptures.”
Is that true?
If that is true, then what are we doing here?
That is the question.
Does anyone have an answer, why are we here doing this and which one is
God has prophesied that the Seventh Angel will
come and reveal this truth.
So one answer is that no one knows the truth
until the Seventh Angel comes.
Anyone who comes and says, “I know the truth”
before that, they cannot be correct.
That is a good answer.
I would also like to say, if that was the case,
if everything was perfect and if there were no need for
this manifestation, and if God could bring everything
back to perfectness right there, then He would not
create this creation and this process.
If we did not need this process, if we did not
need to meditate and improve ourselves and go back to
Light, He would just do it right then and there.
We also discussed yesterday that if you were
perfect you would not be in your body.
You would not be in manifestation.
How can then this be perfect?
Also those who come here and say everything is perfect and, “I am god,” if
you go and study their lives, you see they have a lot of
problems with their lives and how to handle their
If you are perfect, how can you have a problem?
If it is perfect, why does it decay?
If it is perfect, why is the karma created?
If it is perfect, perfection does not have karma.
If anyone else wants to take the microphone, go ahead.
Otherwise I will come back and wrap up that
OK. I think the answers pretty
much answered the question.
This creation is a relative truth.
Anything that is relative is not perfect.
It cannot be perfect because it is not absolute.
Since it is not absolute it has suffering in it,
it has karma, it has falling of the self to the lower
very existence of the lower nature means it is not
Humanity has been struggling to reach this point and now we can see that
God has sent this Revelation and even in this
Revelation, it says it is not perfect.
We have to go to perfection, which is the
Godhead, is the absolute, is the Essence.
The answer to their question is, No, this universe is not perfect.
All the evidence is there that this creation is
in flux. It
is kept together with force.
If that force is taken away, everything is going
to dissolve to Pure Consciousness and darkness.
When that time comes and the universe dissolves back to
its origin, those who have not made it to the light will
stay in the darkness.
As Christ said there is going to be gnashing of
That is not a very nice place for billions of years.
Those who say that this universe is perfect,
really do not understand the truth of the creation and
why we are here.
Unus you raised your hand, go ahead if you have a question.
I just wanted to ask if maybe one could say,
would this be true if they say, the Laws, how the
universe works, like how it is set up by God, is
Could we say in that sense, the universe is perfect, how
the process is working and how the Laws are working?
That is absolutely the truth.
God made this universe perfect in the sense that
it will guide us to go to Pure Consciousness.
That is true because God is perfect.
He does not create something that is not perfect.
That is why the scientists can explain it.
It is explainable.
It is logical.
The scientists say, “Oh, I found this.”
He did not find that.
God has already created that and it is perfect
the way it is.
If they realize that it is not them that found
the things that have already been there, they will
realize how logical and perfect it is.
You are absolutely correct.
This universe is created perfect to guide us to go back
to the Essence.
But creation itself is not perfect because it is
a relative truth.
I just was informed that there is another question.
Makam-2 is asking:
Does the bloodline of the Chosen Ones come from a
woman or man?
It should really come from both.
It is two bloods.
It is not one blood.
It genetically was affected with both, man and
Therefore, it does not matter which one you are from.
Both of them are contributing to the genealogy of
I might add to that, that because the father usually was more
dominating in many cultures, he was chosen as the person
who was considered as the bloodline.
Also since they had many children from more than
one wife, it would have been a little difficult to say I
am from this father and this mother so they connected a
person to a father so everyone was from the one father.
They would have been closer as brothers and
Traditionally it eventually evolved to, “I am from this
father, he was from that father, and he was from that
can explain it also that way that it eventually evolved
that the father became more prominent than the mother.
Also those societies were patriarchal so the father usually was
considered more than the mother in the bloodline.
But in truth and reality the mother contributes
to the child as much as the father.
I hope that answered your question.
If there are no other questions, if no one has
anything to add, we can go to the next question now.
What does, “Leave them to God,” really mean?
This was heard in Pal Talk.
The question is, we leave them to God.
Many times I have said that if people come here
and we give them the Vision, then if they did not come
and join us we leave them to God.
What does that mean?
To me it goes back to that previous discussion
that we had about the sundering, the separation, and the
God is the Judge.
If people refuse or reject that, we leave them to
God to be the Judge of what their situation is going to
be, whether they go to that outer darkness or they can
hang onto the Path and go to what the goal is.
We leave them to God to be the Judge.
Also God is the Doer.
We let go.
We surrender and submit to God.
We leave the results to Him.
Great answers, very great answers.
Or, when we say, “We leave them to God,” it
really says it is between them and God now.
We just wash our hands and say, we gave the
Message, we leave them to God.
It is between God and them.
As Tahirah said, we are not the doer.
We are just here to give the Message.
Whatever happens that affects them to see the
Vision, we do not know.
As Christ said, it is the same thing, you just throw the seed.
Some of them fall in the very fertile soil and
give 100% fruit, some 70%, some 50%, some 30%, some 20%,
and some of them none.
Sometimes we work on one person or a group of people, and we see no
Suddenly someone sends an e-mail that says,
“Well, I put The Greatest Sign at the top of
earth,” and, “I am going to make The Greatest Sign
in even a greater degree,” or, “I will read this,” or “I
will do that for the Mission,” or, “I will
translate this to this language,” or, “I will do this
Also other people manifest every day for the Mission.
We did not push them to do these things.
The Vision fell in the right soil.
They saw the Vision.
It is their Vision now.
It is their religion.
It is between them and God.
They saw the Vision.
They want to help, and they do things they want
to do and we say, Thanks God!
So we leave them to God too.
But they manifest.
Other people we leave to God, and the world comes, the
Maya comes and catches them, and pulls them down to the
lower nature, and they manifest nothing, or even lose
It is a very simple Mission for everyone.
We do our best but leave them to God.
Those who manifest, their reward is with God.
Those who do not manifest, their reward is with
That is what that means, “Leave them to God.”
We are not attached to the result.
They had already answered the question so I will
just let it go.
If someone wants to add something, go ahead.
Otherwise we will continue the room.
There was a question asked, “I was talking about the
Messiah on earth.
The person told me that the temple in Jerusalem
is not yet built, and he cannot be here now.
How can we answer something to that?”
How can we answer such a question?
Someone comes, we tell him or her about the
Mission, and they say, “No it cannot be that.
Jerusalem still does not have a temple.
It has a Mosque.
It has to be destroyed, and we need to build a
temple over it.
Then the Messiah will come.”
How can we answer that question?
The first thing that jumps into my mind is that,
that is Old Jerusalem.
It is very clearly stated that the temple would
be built in New Jerusalem.
And that is here in Rio Rancho.
Well, good answer.
I can try an answer.
I do not think that is a prophecy that the temple
has to be built in Jerusalem.
I do not know where the person took this
assertion but I do not think it is a prophecy that we
can trust, maybe.
The person who said that is either a Jew or a
Christian who believes that a temple should be built in
Jerusalem and the Messiah will come into that temple.
That means creating the same temple that Solomon
built in Jerusalem.
That is the belief that has been with the Jewish
people for more than 2,000 to 3,000 years.
That is what he is talking about.
It is the same thing as, “Mohammad is the last Prophet and no other
Prophet is going to come.”
Or, “We have the last word.”
Or, “We are the chosen ones.”
We call those things dogmas.
Well, I gave half an answer.
If anyone wants to take it from there, go ahead.
Actually both answers given by Radah and Shirin
are pretty much correct.
Just thinking out loud, if someone really wanted
the understanding of the Temple and they only want to
concentrate on their Temple, like you are saying, then
again they only have a part of the truth.
But if the Temple is a central thing that they
are really interested in, when they could see the Temple
as it is built for all the Seals, then they could see
the Temple as God designed it.
Then that would make so much more sense to them.
Maybe all the other factors could come into play
New Jerusalem VS the Old Jerusalem that has so much
blood on its hands, etc.
It is the New Jerusalem that will manifest the new teaching, and
that is where the Messiah is.
That is why we started the project of New
As we said, if many people come, join, and we can buy
land in Rio Rancho… I do not think there is any land of
200 acres left anymore.
They are all bought up, and the prices are
We could have probably bought 200 acres for ten million dollars at
the time that I proposed.
But I do not think that you can do that any more.
This same kind of land is fifty million or even
more at this time.
Actually, a hospital here bought fifteen acres
for fifty million dollars.
So absolutely we need to create the New Jerusalem and build the
it will become a center for re-evaluating themselves.
God never said it was going to be in Jerusalem.
It is going to be a New Jerusalem.
The Old Jerusalem truly has burned and finished
its usefulness, and now we have to look where the New
Actually, there was an article in Time Magazine that
compared Albuquerque and Rio Rancho to Jerusalem, the
way the sun comes up and the way the building on the
other side, on the east side, reflects the sun to the
west in the sunset, and the buildings that are being
built in it, and all that, and the weather.
Even it is in the same latitude as Jerusalem.
If you follow the latitude of Albuquerque and Rio
Rancho, it goes right to Jerusalem.
We can see God sent all the signs:
Here is the place also that the Children of Abram
There are all the signs that say, “We need a new place.
We need a new Jerusalem.”
And I am very open for the people to come, to
join, so we can have the New Jerusalem built.
Then we can create the center in that place,
build the Temple, the university, the dormitories, the
welcoming center, and create an environment that a lot
of people can come, read the teachings, see the Vision,
and understand that now the Temple is built and the
teaching of the Seventh Angel indeed is here.
So we are aware of the prophecies, but that prophecy is not for
They are spending their time, energy, efforts, wars,
destruction, political maneuvering, and their desires in
a place that is not from God.
God said differently.
We can again see that humanity is so lost.
We have the answer for them because God gave the answer.
He said He would give it in this time.
So the answer to that question is very simple:
It is not the Jerusalem but it is the New
Of course at this time we are the thief of the night and we have
come very hidden.
Maybe that is what they mean in Islam:
It goes the same as being the thief of the night.
We are hidden.
Now is not the time. We
do not have enough people.
You can see right now with this fantastic
Revelation we have only a few people in this room, and
even the people who joined us, it just went right over
They could not even fathom the depths of this teaching,
which is OK.
But we have to be consistent and completely dedicate ourselves to
reach in any way we can, in any way to help.
We need people who can come and put their effort
and their material blessings into buying the New
Or, we can wait until our members increase, until the
whole city of Rio Rancho will become the New Jerusalem.
As the motto in this city is:
The City of Vision.
We did not even chose that name.
Someone else did.
And the city is called:
The City of Vision.
Most of the people do not even know why it is the
City of Vision, but it is.
So the answer to that question simply is:
It is the New Jerusalem.
It is in the process of being created, and we are
all a part of it.
We have to be dedicated and recognize anything we
can do to manifest it.
If there is any question about the answer, or follow-up, go ahead.
Well, I just wanted to say two things.
Maybe we could say that until the Temple is built
in New Jerusalem maybe the Mission will not be
outreaching in a greater sense?
Also would this be true, like what you are saying has a symbolic
Like until one person builds the Temple in his
body, the Christ does not come.
Could this be that until we reach the Seventh
Chakra or to Pure Consciousness, Christ does not come?
Could we look at it that way also?
Absolutely you are correct.
As Christ said, “The Temple is your body.”
Therefore, where you build the Temple and purify
it, you will see the Vision and Christ.
Of course, we also believe that whatever is
above, so is below.
There are symbolic meanings of the Temple, as a building, as a
place that people can go, can meditate, and recognize
the Temple of their bodies.
That has been given in the Mission as the
way to create it is to build it.
Therefore it is also available for humanity.
So both ways of looking at it are correct.
It is a Temple as a building, and it is also a
Temple as the body.
Both of them go hand in hand.
By building the Temple you have a place to meditate.
By meditating you purify your body.
By purifying your body you respect the Temple and
build the Temple in a greater degree of purity and
Eventually both of them go hand in hand, and help you to
follow the Eternal Divine Path.
You are correct.
Just as a side note too, it is not really in the
teachings about doing this, but we can look at it
In Genesis God created in the ethereal
Even right now the Temple is being built in that virtual
have the Temple being constructed closely in “Second
Life.” So it
is kind of in that ethereal, virtual world, being
created right now.
Yes, Very Good.
Actually the Temple is already built in the
God’s Vision of the Temple has been given to us.
But in the ethereal level, for Him the Temple is
already decided to be built.
So, in the ethereal level we have the Temple.
Yes, the New Jerusalem is already built in the ethereal
level. So we
have it that way.
And as you said in “Second Life” we do have that
also. That is being built and created.
So the Temple is built.
And the Temple is now Christ’s body, Sponsored said.
Yes, you can say that too, that probably that is
also built now.
It has all the signs in it.
It has the place of the nails in my body.
Some people say my ears are prophesied to come
the way they are.
You can see so many ways that you can look at this
That you can expand that person who asked this question
to recognize that it is their dogma.
It is their understanding.
It is not God’s understanding.
God is much more expanded.
We just saw how many people came with different
answers that were all correct.
Tell them, forget about the dogma.
Go to the website, read the new teaching,
understand the deeper meaning of the Temple, New
Jerusalem, your body is the temple, and all of that.
In a sense, you say this person was a
Their Christ came as
their form of Christ.
He told them where the Temple is, and they missed
Then Moslems came and Prophet Muhammad brought the
mosque to humanity.
And they did not accept that one in Christendom.
We can see that humanity has to be educated.
They have to go through this tribulation.
Unfortunately they are not ready to see this
that is OK.
We are the hidden Imam.
We are the thief of the night.
But you are my hands, ears, and eyes out there to take
this Vision to every corner on earth and manifest it.
What is the difference before Esa came to earth and
after his coming as Esa the Christ, keeping in mind that
he releases The Grace to humanity?
I guess the question is, Christ came, released
What else happened?
Well, he also came to teach about sacrifice.
And he also came to gather the people under one
had a three-fold mission.
And he came to release The Grace to humanity.
That is true.
That is truth.
That is the three-fold mission of Christ.
Now what else happened?
There are more though than three.
Anyone else remember what happened after he came?
Well, he came to fulfill the prophecies.
That is a good one.
Yes, there were some prophecies for him to come.
If he had not come and fulfilled them, we would
be in trouble.
So he fulfilled the prophecies.
What else did he do?
a post in text, “Sir, we did
not have to till the ground any longer.”
You mean after Christ came we had the dishwasher, the
refrigerator [laughing], we would stop growing things in
the ground, use the tractor and all those things to do
No, what I understood for that to mean that when
humanity fell away from the oneness with God, they lost
And that Grace is that Oneness.
So God sent them to the manifested universe to go
till the ground.
It is like, OK, if you do not want it the easy
way, you get it the hard way.
When Christ came they had progressed to the point of
overcoming that lower nature, so that, symbolically,
they did not have to till the ground.
The Grace was back and it seems to me like from
that fourth chakra up, it would then be an easier way to
go to God and not have to suffer so hard in those first
Once that crossing over line, that baptism line from the
lower nature to the higher nature, like Tahirah was
saying, is crossed, we would not have to suffer so hard
in that sweet of the brow kind of tilling the ground
You can say the people who became Christian
received The Grace and therefore they received the
fattest part of the earth, their lives were much easier,
and they were Graced greatly, because of The Grace of
Even in the Koran it says that God will prefer,
or give more, to the people who follow Esa, until the
Now this is the end time.
This is the time that Grace now is released to
every part of the earth and those who follow the
Eternal Divine Path will receive The Grace.
So you can say, yes, in that sense that those who became
Christian received The Grace of Christ.
Therefore, that is one of the things he did.
That is a good one.
If you meant that, yes, that is correct.
He did not release The Grace to everyone at that time.
It is now that The Grace has been released to
Also we can see that it is in this time that the human
less and less tills the ground.
They do not need shovels anymore.
Even snow, they do not have to shovel the snow.
They have a machine that can do that for them.
Or, they can use machines that till the ground
for them easily.
We can see that it is this time that The Grace
has come to lift up humanity from the curse of the
tilling of the ground.
OK, any follow-up?
Any additions to that?
The question would be, what is the difference
with or without The Grace, before the Christ, without,
and after the Christ came and he released The Grace, or
That is my question.
Without The Grace salvation is impossible.
Without The Grace, we will suffer, we will till
And another thing that Christ finished is the sacrifice
of animals, and of a lot of rituals that Moses brought
to the Children of Israel and humanity.
We do not have to do those things anymore.
Before Christ The Grace was taken away from all of
After him The Grace was given to the Christians, and it
shows that if Grace is there people do not have to
suffer as much as they did before.
Who suffers more, European and Americans, or people in
Africa and other places that do not have enough material
things to support them?
It is not because of what the Europeans or the
It is because God’s Grace was with them.
If He withdraws The Grace, it is going to be
famine, it is going to be destruction, it is going to be
as we can see in many other places.
That is what the West has to recognize.
It is because of God’s Grace that they have
received such blessings.
That is the difference.
If you have The Grace, you will have great lands,
your lands will give great fruits, and your life is
going to be more comfortable.
But with this Revelation, after The Grace is released to
humanity, they have to recognize:
This is The Grace of God and use their blessings
to have more time to meditate, to create the
Communities of Light, to create an environment that
accelerates everyone else, and themselves, to go to God
as fast as possible instead of saying, “We made it.
It is ours.
We did not have to listen to God.”
They have put God out of everything in their
lives and do adultery, fornication, and this and that.
No. That is
the Message now of the Mission to humanity and
the West: It
was God’s Blessings.
Now it has been released to everyone.
So wake up.
The only way the West can really manifest itself and its
greatness again is by recognizing our teaching, coming
to it, and bringing everyone else to it.
That is the difference:
The Grace brings greater prosperity, greater
life. It has
to be used to progress toward God.
Also it was typed, “The scepter shall not depart from
Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until the
Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the
people be.” (Genesis 49:10)
That is a good one.
That means he finished the mission for the
Children of Israel as the chosen people to create the
communities and set up the example as the Communities
of Light, the Communities that are based on God and
That is a good one.
He finished that.
He finished the sacrifice, and he brought The
But the most important was the threefold mission that
Shirin mentioned at the very beginning.
Therefore he has a great effect on history.
Now we will have an even greater effect by bringing the
whole of humanity under one banner with God’s Grace and
the understanding of history and creation, and realizing
that there is a goal in life and we have to create a
society, an earth, that is geared toward that goal.
Again have a good day.
We will have a gathering tonight at 8 o’clock.
We invite everyone to come back and hopefully it
is going to be very informal and just getting together.
This is the first time we are doing this, and we
will see what happens tonight.