So there are three Kingdoms.
We have to all realize that each of them are necessary. Each of
them are interrelated. The Kingdom Of Heaven on Earth will not come
without the Kingdom Of Heaven Within you. The Kingdom Of Heaven
Within you might come, but it's going to be very hard to live on an
earth where the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth has not come.
You might become a good person, and connect yourself to God. But
it is very hard for a good person to live in a society where a lot
of people are not good. It's very hard for them, because they are
good, but the others are not.
So it has to go hand-in-hand. That's why we believe, a person who
goes through these five steps creates the Kingdom Of Heaven Within.
And not only are these people good, but they are also effective.
They meditate; they do their spiritual practices to be connected to
God; they strive to create the Communities of Light (an
environment where the people are good, live together and create a
community). In order to create this community, sacrifice, not being
self-centered, is necessary. Even with that, they have to become
Submission means you do your best and at the same time you
surrender the results to God. The reason we become depressed, the
reason we become unhappy, the reason we sometimes become too much
elated but then we are depressed after that, is because we are
attached to the results of our actions.
We do something good, we become elated. We just jump all over.
Then tomorrow the thing we felt was good doesn't happen the way we
want it, and we become completely down. So we go up and down like a
But with surrendering, we say, "God, it is really You who is the
doer and the result is also Yours." Better than surrendering is
submission. It means God is doing it through us.
I am not doing this Satsang. I'm just sitting here and giving the
Word of God to you. If it affects you, if it hurts, if you see the
truth and then go away and say, "Yeah, what Maitreya was
saying is the truth, yes, that is the way it really should be done,"
it's up to God. I have to give the result to Him and He does
whatever He wants to do with it.
I am not attached to the result, so I can give Satsang and go
away. Then someone else comes, I give Satsang and go away. I am
free. It's the same thing for everyone else in the Community of
So with that we're going to become completely free from the
results of our actions. Also we will become universalists. Being a
universalist means, as you believe that there is One God, One Unity
in the Spirit, and everything is God, so how can we separate between
religions and religions, race and race, country and country,
philosophy and philosophy? There can't be separation.
After realizing these five steps is when you create the Kingdom
Of Heaven Within you. So not only do you create the Kingdom Of
Heaven Within, but you strive to bring the Kingdom Of Heaven
I go to the mountains and meditate. I think I am such a wonderful
person, I'm meditating all the time. Or I go to my room. Or I go to
my beach. I go to whatever place I have, cut myself off from the
world and say, "What a wonderful person I am." But when I encounter
society I find out I was just escaping from truly seeing myself.
It is just like that yogi who was meditating in the mountains for
ten years. He thought he was such a wonderful person. He was always
happy sitting there meditating, breathing such good air, etc. He
thought he was in control of his environment. One day he had to go
to town. He had no choice. He went to town. With the first person
who pushed him, he became so angry, and he pushed him back.
Suddenly he realized, "Wow, what am I doing? I thought I am such
a good, wonderful yogi. I'm in control of myself. With the first
push I became so angry. What is this?"
Guest: It's a lot easier when you're alone.
Maitreya: Right. It's very easy. And usually you fool
yourself. If you are good, it doesn't make any difference if you are
in a society or on a mountain. Still you have to stay calm, good,
and centered. If you have not reached the point where you can be
centered in the community, if you have not reached the point where
you can be centered in the middle of the activities, you haven't got
Guest: And also to share it.
Maitreya: Exactly. As we say, "Better than meditation is to
share God with someone else." It is a much better meditation. The
Spirit of God comes through you much stronger.
So we believe the person who wants to create the Kingdom Of
Heaven Within has to be in the community, otherwise it's not going
to work. We don't believe in escapism. We don't believe in going to
the mountains, meditating up there and saying, "Oh, I'm a wonderful
yogi. I have all these siddhis (powers) and all those things."
If we can create such people more and more, who have the Kingdom
Of Heaven Within and are striving to create the community together,
eventually we will connect these communities to one another. That is
when we will bring the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth.
The more we have these kinds of communities (the more people who
meditate, the more people who go through the Eternal Divine Path),
the better and stronger communities we will have, the more powerful
communities we will have, the more connected communities we will
have, and eventually we will bring the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth.
All of them are going to march to Pure Consciousness, to become in
the image of God.
Many people say, "I am god." But what is God? God is
Compassionate. God is Loving. God is Forgiveness. God is all the
good Qualities of God. Yes, you are God if you can manifest those
Qualities. If you haven't reached a point to manifest those
Qualities, you are kidding yourself when you think you are God.
Yes, you are a part of God. You are a speck in God. But you have
not yet reached to be God yourself. When you reach a point where you
manifest those Qualities of God, then yes, you are a son of God, you
are a child of God, you are a daughter of God.
Guest: Are we not children of God no matter what we are,
whether or not we are serving yet, or not feeling yet, or not aware
Maitreya: Children, yes. We were talking this morning that
when God brings the sun up in the sky, He doesn't care if it's
shining on a sinner or a Saint. The difference is that the sinner
has an umbrella over his head. Although the sun is up, he's not
receiving any. The problem with the sinner (who is self-centered,
selfish and disconnected) is that he or she has his umbrella of ego
over his head. God is giving The Grace all the time.
The Saint doesn't have any ego. He's open and says, "Oh, great,
I'm receiving all this Grace." He's very happy.
So there is no difference between us. The difference is how much
we're receiving the Spirit from Him.
Guest: By saying these separate things and learning these
ways and putting it altogether, that comes together for you. Is this
the only way that this can come together for someone?
Maitreya: Then we go back. One step we have to take is to
believe that God has sent teachings and Scriptures to humanity for
the last 12,000 years. Or, we don't need any of the Scriptures and
teachings from the last 12,000 years. We are God, we know our way.
And because we are a part of God we can throw out all these
Scriptures, and we can create our own world and our own teaching.
That's the one question you have to ask yourself, and choose which
way you want to go.
Do you believe in Scriptures? Do you believe that the Scriptures
are a part of God and the Word of God?
Guest: Why does this have to be a certain way? Why not just
accept it? What I'm saying is, I can accept all of this, and I can
accept it totally in the parts, the total of the parts. Why does it
have to be done a certain way?
Maitreya: You accept part of our teaching. You also accept a
part of other teachings. But what do you accept of it? How does it
affect you? How does it help you to grow? Acceptance, OK, "I can
accept everyone." But how is this going to affect me? How is this
going to help me to grow? Where does this acceptance fall in the
Plan of God, in the Spirit of God?
As we said, there are a lot of dogmas, and there is One Truth.
Now if we accept every dogma and everything out there, what are we
going to become?
Guest: We can honor different things just because it's
someone's belief system, honor the spirit of all, but to accept for
one's self the idea that it's really all coming from the same
consciousness of God.
Maitreya: Well, that is true, but as we said, there are also
dogmas which do not come from God. They come from the human ego.
They are created by the human's narrow understanding of God, so they
have created some dogmas. That is their belief system. That might be
the truth, it might not be the truth, it might have a part of the
truth, it might not have a part of the truth.
Guest: And you've covered all of the truth of all of them and
put them together. But at the same time, for me, if there's
something that has to be done a certain way, I have personal
difficulty with that. Because it's following.... I respect it, and I
can honor it, and I believe in each part of it as you have outlined
it. But to have to do something a certain way is not, at this point,
for me, generally easy to accept.
Maitreya: I understand you. You are not very unique in that
aspect. We have had many, many people express this same
understanding, because they are connected to what they call the "New
Guest: Expound on that.
Maitreya: New Age Teachings basically say, "I am god, because
God is everything. I already know everything myself and this is
within me. As long as I can discern that from within myself, and
rely on my own understanding, I am OK." Usually they don't refer to
the Scriptures too much. The sense is that the Scriptures are
outmoded, they are old, they are no longer good. They are no longer
"Because the truth is within me, I am my own god. I make my own
decisions. I discern the truth. I found the truth within myself, so
I am the source of the truth. I don't need any external thing to
tell me how it should be done. So I respect your teaching, but I am
my own truth, and I walk away and go do whatever I want to do."
Guest: No. All the teachings have great value. The learning
process comes from many areas, many, many areas of all the
religions. Yes, I agree with that. But the idea of having to do it a
certain way, again to me, forgive me because I don't mean to say
this in any fashion, not to be rude, I don't mean it in this way, is
again awkward, if you have to do something. I'm not saying I'm a
totally free spirit, that New Age flighty-mindedness. It's not that.
It's a lot deeper than that for me. I have difficulty, at this point
in my development, with "have to do" something a certain way.
Let me take it from a different point. I am not sure of your
background. So your credentials for teaching me this are, please?
Like you are teaching me something now. I want to believe you. So
how did you come into this? Where did you get your learning from?
Maitreya: Let's go one by one. First there is truth in every
teaching. You want to be open to every teaching so you can discern
and understand the truth in all of them. Tell me, what teaching are
we talking about? Do you have any special teaching that you are
Guest: Not any one particular one.
Maitreya: What I was going to do is to show you that every
teaching on earth falls in The Greatest Sign.
Guest: I'm sure it does. I have no problem with that.
Maitreya: So we are not really limiting anyone here from
understanding other teachings. It doesn't matter what teaching is
out there, you can go and learn about it. What we are asking is to
see where it falls in The Greatest Sign. If you go and just
read the teachings, and find some truth in them, that's an isolated
truth. You don't know where it falls according to other teachings.
Where is its place in the whole Plan of God? But if you have
a pattern, if you have a schematic that shows you where that
teaching falls, then you can completely understand the teaching,
find its place in the Plan of God, and go on.
You find a teaching, you find a truth, you love it, you go ahead
because you see where it falls in the whole Plan. It even
helps you in a greater degree. You don't just become attached to one
teaching and that's it. So in that aspect it not only doesn't close
you and limit you, but it opens you in an even greater degree to
everything out there, until you reach a point where you don't have
any questions anymore.
You need truth, and you need teaching as long as you have
questions. But when you reach a point where you don't have any
questions, you see a truth, you say, "That's great, I already know
it," and you go on with other things. You get on with the Plan,
and God's Will. So in that aspect, I don't think it's going to limit
In the aspect of my background, in many places in our teaching it
says what my background is, and how I came across these teachings.
As I said, when this teaching was coming to me, it was not something
-- that's why I was emphasizing who put it together -- that I sat
there and I put it together and came up with this teaching [guest
saying she didn't think this]. What I was emphasizing was that there
had to be the Spirit behind it that revealed this to me. When I was
receiving this teaching, one of my concerns was, "When can anyone
ever understand all this truth?" We are having just one session,
sitting here and touching just the tip of the iceberg of what has
been revealed in this Mission and what we are giving to
Guest: I didn't expect an instantaneous education. I
appreciate your taking this time with me. It's very kind.
Maitreya: That's OK. That's my job. That's my work. That's
why I'm here. Anyone who wants to hear this teaching and this
revelation, I am obligated to reveal it to them. After I do that, my
job is done. It's between them and God. I leave them to God and He
can do whatever He wants with them. If they see a truth, a glimpse
of light in it, again it's between them and God. They work it out
with Him. I'm just a channel for Him.
I'm not the channel of any being. I'm a channel for God Himself.
That's another thing, there are a lot of channels out there, who
channel a lot of beings, and all those things.
Guest: What do you think about that?
Maitreya: Well, I think everyone has to go right to the
Highest Source, which is God Himself, read His Word in the
Scriptures, and with a very discerning mind, compare their words
with the Word of God to see if it is the truth. As it has been said
before, do not just accept any teaching. Actually, I appreciate very
much a healthy skepticism, even for this teaching. That is great.
Compare this teaching with the Scriptures to see if what I say is
exactly what God says in the Scriptures. That's fine. You will see
the truth in it. If it's not, do not accept it.
Even if I say something that is not according to God's Word, do
not accept it. So with those channels also, you have to be very
discerning of what they say. Is it according to God? Is it according
to His Word? Or is it not?
Also there are some channels who might have just a little of the
truth, a part of the truth. The rest of what they say has no truth.
So you also have to have a discerning mind as to which part to
accept and which one not to accept.
If you are in the spiritual path, you are a warrior. You are a
brave Soul. You are a Soul who has put yourself in the path that is
very narrow. You have to be very discerning about where you are
going, what you are doing, who you are connected to, and who you are
talking to, to find the path.
So it is healthy to have that skepticism. But eventually, if you
have a discerning mind and are looking for the truth, God will guide
you in the right path.
About my background, I believe that my teachings have come to me,
not only in this lifetime but in many, many lifetimes. That's why
they have accumulated together so that I can sit here and talk about
God in such a way that it has the authority in it. I believe that
God has sent these teachings over and over to humanity through many,
many lifetimes, and eventually they accumulated themselves to this
teaching which covers every other teaching on earth and unifies them
This teaching has come in this moment to humanity to help them
out of the difficulties they have. Our teaching is not only
meditation. Our teaching is not only prayer, The Holy Ghost. It is
based on the Communities of Light. It's the understanding of
the Mystical Paths, understanding of the Hebrew Old Testament,
the teaching of the New Testament, Koran, Baha'i
teaching, and the many other teachings that are unified together,
not as all of them from the same Spirit and saying the same thing,
but each of these has a special message for humanity, from the
Spirit and if they follow it, they will create the Communities of
Light. And the whole Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth will be based on
the Communities of Light.
Guest: Those are Communities of Light in various parts
of the world?
Maitreya: We're trying to establish them. That is one of the
things we're trying here. There are other people who are trying in
Florida, for instance. We have people in Quebec, Canada. In
Massachusetts, we have some people. We have people in Nigeria, West
Africa, etc. We are hoping eventually to have many, many people all
over the world to start doing it. The whole idea is to include the
whole of humanity.
Just look at what is happening to the earth. Who is going to win
the war in the Middle East? It is prophesied that it's going to
happen in the Middle East. If you read chapters 37-40 of Ezekiel,
it completely puts the prophecy right in front of you, how it's
going to happen, who is going to be coming together and come against
the other forces, how Europe is going to rise as the powerful super
power on earth, etc.
We just saw Russia fell apart. It is not even considered a super
power anymore. And the United States, do you think after this war
with Iraq it's going to stay a super power? Who is going to fill the
So we're not just teaching meditation here. We're teaching the
whole aspect of your life, even from going to the bathroom to the
Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth [all laughing]. We believe that we have
something that humanity is waiting for, and for which it is being
Many people get connected with the Mission and we never
hear from them again, which is OK. But as the earth more and more is
going toward that period, they will eventually realize, "This
teaching and all those teachings out there are a part of a greater
truth. The whole is greater than the parts. There are a lot of parts
there. We can go and take this part, and this part, and this part,
and this part, but eventually we have to be able to put them
together, in order to see the whole picture."
So we believe we have the whole picture here because this is the
only teaching that teaches us how each great religion of the world
is a part of a Greater Truth, and how all prophecies are fulfilled
or are being fulfilled. Also it is the end of the old era when we
need a new wine in a new skin. This is the new wine.
That's why I asked you, do you believe in the Scriptures? Do you
believe in the prophecies? That's another way to discern and
understand the truth behind the teaching because with the human
mind, it doesn't matter how much you accumulate knowledge, still
it's going to be limited.
Eventually you have to reach a point where you should say, "I
cannot completely rely on my own understanding, but on the
understanding of the Spirit, of the prophecies behind the teaching,
how it came about. All these things have been written down and given
to humanity for them to discern, to read, to understand, to compare,
and eventually to come to this conclusion: "Yes, this is the
Of course, people have a tendency when someone says, "I have all
the answers," to say, "No, how can anyone have all the answers?" But
as I said, I don't have the answers. God has the answers. God has
chosen this vehicle to bring this truth, these answers to humanity.
Even if we look behind my picture, there is a writing there that
says, "Don't become attached to my body. Don't become attached to my
picture. Become attached to the Spirit behind it."
Guest: You're supposed to do that in every person.
Maitreya: Exactly, but not everyone can do that. A lot of
Guest: No, but somewhere in each of us is that Spirit.
Maitreya: Of course. If you didn't have that Spirit, you
wouldn't be alive anyway [all laughing].
Guest: The name Maitreya is very interesting. This is
originally your name?
Maitreya: No. My original name is Mohammed. That is also
prophesied. I didn't give the name Maitreya to myself, it was
given to me. That fulfills the prophecies that, "Many will come in
my name and call themselves Christ," or Maitreya, "and will
deceive many." I didn't give the name Maitreya to myself. I
didn't even say that Maitreya is Christ. Some other groups
took ads in papers all over the world. They spent around one million
dollars and they announced that Maitreya is the Christ. I
never called myself
Maitreya. I was given the name Maitreya. This group
realized that Maitreya is Christ.
Guest: I didn't know about that at all.
Maitreya: Yes, that's the organization Tara Center and
Benjamin Creme. They also have a Maitreya who was supposed to appear
since 1980. Ten years and he hasn't appeared yet. They are the
people who claim that Maitreya is Christ.
So the name was given to me. It was my spiritual name from my
Guest: From your spiritual teacher? It was channeled through
you, or given to you in a special way?
Maitreya: Just like, who was the spiritual teacher of Christ?
John the Baptist. John the Baptist had to baptize Esa before he
became Christ. After he was baptized he realized his mission. Then
he started reaching his revelations. It is the same thing, I had to
be initiated by another teacher in a physical body, and the name
was given to me as my spiritual name. After that, these revelations
started coming to me.
Guest: Ohh! I'm always amazed at how things manifest.
Maitreya: Well, God works in mysterious ways.
So we think we have all of the answers and the only answer
[laughing]. As I said, if you look at the prophecies, that's one of
the ways to discern what is the truth and if a teaching is the
truth. Many times I've said, "If there is someone else who has
fulfilled all the prophecies on earth, has a better teaching than
what we have here, that will bring unity to humanity, please let us
You're going to Arizona and you're getting in touch with a lot of
people there. If you find something better than this, please bring
it to us and let us know.
Guest: Actually, I was going to try to connect with some
Indian cultures just for my own growth in connecting with elemental
forms, the land, earth, etc.
Maitreya: Did you know the Indians had this teaching,
Communities of Light? That was the whole teaching that had been
given to them, to create communities, to love the land, to grow corn
and to share with one another. Did you also know that they have a
prophecy that Christ is going to come back to the United States,
he's going to wear a white robe and have a beard? Really, they do.
Now you know. When you go there, ask them. Are you going to the
Maitreya: Ask them about the Messa. So similar to Messiah.
They should know about that.
Guest: Would it mainly be the Hopis that would know about
Maitreya: Hopis know more about those prophecies than any
other American Indian. Actually, they are pretty protective about
their knowledge, about the Messiah, etc. They are waiting for this
We are hoping also to get connected with the American Indians
because they also have a lot of truth in them. They have a lot of
truth but they also have to understand other truth.
Why did the white man come to the United States and almost
destroy their culture? It was given to Abraham. The land promised to
Abraham and his children was the United States, a land flowing with
milk and honey. Israel is not a land of milk and honey. It's a
pretty dried out place (at least with not as much milk and honey as
here). But the land of milk and honey was this land, that was given
Again according to our teaching, if you get more familiar with
it, you will see it says that, a part of the children of Abraham
eventually reached the United States. They are mostly the children
of Joseph who came here. Joseph was the person who was supposed to
have the birthright, the material possession that had been given to
Abraham and his children.
So we can see that if the Indians realized that, they wouldn't be
that bitter about the white man who came to their country. That was
also the Will of God that happened to them.
Guest: Was it true that Christ was here too?
Maitreya: That's what they say. He taught them the same
things, community, sharing and all that. If you study any teaching
of any great teacher, always they emphasize community.
Guest: Like the Mormons?
Maitreya: Exactly. But none of them have been given the
Eternal Divine Path so crystallized, so far.
Even Buddha talked about Sanga and Dharma. Sanga means community.
Dharma means the innate nature of each person. So if you have
communities where each person can manifest their innate nature,
Dharma, then we're going to have what? Again we're going to have the
Communities of Light, communities based on God's Spirit, not
communities based on greed or anything else, but based on the
Spirit, on God.
Guest: If I had known that this was your format, that we
would be asking questions, I would have thought all the way over
Maitreya: Well, you got connected with us, and if you get
connected with the Indians, maybe you are the bridge between us and
the Indians. If you have any other questions, I will be available
here and we can discuss them further.
Guest: I can't think of anything more.
Maitreya: Good, you are in Pure Consciousness.
Guest: I appreciate your time. It was wonderful of you to do
Maitreya: As I said, that's my job.