(Some questions were asked through a translator)
Question: In one of the last Satsangs you
said that God doesn't need to be served by humans. Do you mean He
doesn't need humans, He doesn't need us? Because then why did God
Maitreya: I said that God doesn't need our
service. If we serve Him, it's not for Him, it's for us. It's not a
question of whether God needs humans or not, but that we are a part
of God. The question doesn't really arise as to who needs whom. The
question is that there is no separation.
When we are all one how can we say who is serving
whom? So in a sense He's enjoying His play, part of which is human.
And we're enjoying Him because He is our salvation. So it's a kind
of mutual enjoyment.
Question: My question has to do with the
Universal Mind. It seems like people are picking up thoughts from
this Universal Mind. Like the other night we were discussing the
phrase, "You are of the Order of Melchizedek." Did that somehow get
into the Universal Mind? I have the conception that what is in the
Universal Mind comes from God and is pure, it's not filtered by
human error. And yet from where are all these errors being picked
Maitreya: First of all we have to ask the
question, Is any thought really from the Universal Mind? You're
saying, "If it comes from the Universal Mind, it is pure." That is
However, we could say, people pick up one name, or
one phrase from the whole and then use it out of context. They come
up with all these ideas themselves and relate that to the Universal
Mind, which is not true, it's from their active imagination. They
might have a very active imagination and imagine things, because the
human mind is very powerful. It can create things that seem to be
very true, and very real, but they are not.
It is like this woman who went to Tibet to learn
meditation. In the process she tried to create a companion for
herself just by thinking. Through her mind she eventually created
this Yogi that she could manifest each time she thought about it.
Eventually, the Yogi that she had created through her mind became so
powerful that he started taking over her life. And he became
dangerous for her, but just in her own imagination. It was a
creation created by the power of the mind. However, her impurities
and fears made her creation fearful to her.
What is our mind? Our mind is the same mind that God
uses. The difference is that probably some people use 5% of their
brain. Some people use 6%. Some people use 10%. The most intelligent
human uses 12% of his brain so he can use 12% of the Universal Mind.
If you can increase that 12% to 20% you have a very powerful mind.
You could create things with your mind and become a creator.
Some people's minds become so powerful that they
fall in the trap of their own minds. They create things in the
ethereal (heavenly) level, and their creation becomes the very
obstacle on their way to God.
That is why God had to send books like the
Koran, the Upanishads and all the Scriptures to show
the truth to men and not let them fall into their own traps.
So the very notion that this is from the Universal
Mind, as I said, is very questionable. This is not from the
Universal Mind. This is man-made. The human takes a name or phrase
and builds on it. After awhile they forget completely the origin of
it. And everyone is just like a lamb. If you have ever seen lambs,
when one lamb jumps over a creek, the rest of the lambs start
jumping after him. They don't even know where they are going, they
jump and follow the crowd.
The rest take it and say, Yeah, Yeah, Melchizedek is
the Order of this and that, and they think that is the way it should
be. However, when you look at the
Bible, the Word of God says contrary to it. The Bible
and the truth in it, and all the Scriptures, come from the Universal
Mind, come from God. The Word of God is the yardstick you can use to
see if a saying is from Him (Universal Mind) or not. If what is said
conforms to the Scriptures, it is from God. Otherwise it is not.
If we didn't have these Scriptures, we wouldn't have
any standards. We wouldn't have anything to measure any saying
against. That is why God gives the Scriptures and sends the
Prophets, to bring His Word to humanity because He knows human
imagination is very, very active.
Question: What you said today about the Order
of Melchizedek for example, is getting clearer and clearer. How come
a few years ago you were not able to say it like this? Why did you
use this name at that time and now you change? Didn't the Spirit
tell you at that time that it was not really alright to use this
name? Or was it necessary to use it for awhile to attract people and
then let it go?
Maitreya: You answered your own question. The
reason was that it stayed with us for awhile and the people became
attracted to it, we became attracted to it. We explained it that way
and eventually we realized that that is not really the true way. So
now it becomes very clear to us that the Bible is referring
to Melchizedek in a completely different way, and the meaning of it
is not as most people have taken it.
In the process of apparently making this mistake, we
become clearer on what the real meaning of the Bible and
meanings behind the Word of God are, instead of taking any word in
it and just following it because some other people follow it.
As it is explained, in answer to that question,
Abraham is telling Melchizedek that, "I am giving this money to you,
so that later on you don't tell me that I became rich through you."
It completely shows that he is not really giving because he's
respecting Melchizedek or accepting him as the forever priest of
God. But Abraham is giving Melchizedek this tithe because he feels
if he doesn't give it, he might later on accuse him of not paying
his taxes or whatever was customary to do. This is the same way that
Esa (Jesus) paid taxes, not that he wanted to pay it to a tyrant
king, but he did it just to avoid getting in trouble.
Now it is very clear to us the meaning of
Melchizedek and who he was. If we had not gone through this process,
probably it would have gone unnoticed. Now it's very clear to us
what truly Melchizedek is. That is why we went through this process.
So in a way, sometimes God allows us to make a mistake so we learn
the lesson profoundly.
Furthermore, as we explained in our other
literature, when we reached out to spread the Message, we were
flooded with many people, groups, etc. They brought many conflicting
and confusing ideas to the Mission. For awhile they even
confused us. Later on we realized this happened so that the prophecy
that Christ and his disciples "shall be caught up together in the
clouds," would be fulfilled. As it is explained in THOTH,
cloud means confusion.
We and many who were supposed to join us (disciples)
were caught in the confusion between the old teachings and the new
ones (New Agers). The concept of the Order of Melchizedek is one
such concept which was accepted in that period of confusion. Now
that this cloud (confusion) is lifting, the true place of this
concept was understood in a deeper level. So we all were caught in
the cloud for awhile. The seven years of confusion are lifting and
our teaching will gain its original clarity as it was revealed
before this seven year period of confusion (cloud) passed us!
Question: In the beginning of the
it was written, there was Adam and Eve and then they had children. I
don't know with whom their children got married but anyway they
found other people and they got married. They were supposed to be
alone. And then they said, There were giants at that time. Where did
the giants come from and what were they doing there?
Maitreya: It is explained in
what the giants were. The human had power and the ability to
manipulate universal forces, life- forces. So through this process
some giants (large beings) were created. Also, at that time humans
knew about genetic engineering and through genetic engineering they
created some giants. It is also explained in THOTH
that more than one human was created. Each of them was called Adam.
The human was male and female in one body. Then they were separated
into man and woman. They married, had children and their children
married people from other races or other people's children, etc.
Question: Like they speak in the
Emerald, there are giants, prisoners in the center of the earth.
Maybe it's just the imagination of someone?
Maitreya: That is the experience of the
Emerald. If you haven't experienced that, that is just imagination.
Unless you experienced that, and you know for sure there are giants
in the center of the earth, then that's not your truth. After the
Heaven on Earth is created, these all can be very thoroughly
investigated to see if what these people say is true or not.
Question: You said you have to experience a
thing to know about it. Maybe it's the same for THOTH,
we have to experience it to know if it's alright or not, I mean if
it is from God.
Maitreya: Yes. If you create a community
without following the
Eternal Divine Path, see what happens to it.
Question: I mean to know what
is you have to experience it. Like what you said about the Tablet
of Emerald. I don't know if it's true or not because I didn't
experience it. It's the same for THOTH. All the things
in THOTH, like what we're talking about, the giants, I
have to experience it also to know it?
Maitreya: Well, you cannot experience everything
in the uni- verse. You don't have that much time. So you just create
the Kingdom first, and then you'll have enough time, energy and
resources to experience and experiment. However, right now, the most
important thing is to create the Communities of Light to
bring the Kingdom on Earth. If you believe in that, the rest is not
really that important. Until that is manifested, the rest is someone
If you see the way to create the Kingdom Of Heaven
On Earth as given in
THOTH, then that is the only experience you need to
follow right now.
God also revealed how to recognize the One who will
bring unity and peace to earth. If you see the signs on earth, the
fulfillment of prophecies through me and the truth in our teachings,
that should be sufficient to guide you to the right path. Many
people had great experiences with me and they still fell into Maya!
Question: This part is for me. Maybe for some
people it's not important, or more it depends. But I agree with you
that the important thing is about the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth and
the Eternal Divine Path.
Maitreya: We have to have our priorities.
What is our priority here? To create the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth
first. That question on giants has been answered in many different
ways. Some say they were from outer space and they came on earth.
Fine. Are you going to waste your time now to go and find out if
they were from outer space? Or was it genetic engineering? Or by
giants do they means dinosaurs? So who is right? Are there Cyclopes,
with one eye, and they were magicians, etc? So all of these are
questions you can ask yourself, but how far are you going to go?
Question: As with King David before, was
Goliath a giant?
Maitreya: That's what they say. Probably he was
a very tall man. He was probably the tallest man the enemy had, and
King David was a very tiny person. So when you compare a huge person
to a regular-sized person, to them he seemed much bigger than King
David. And later on, as we said, this notion just snowballed, and
instead of a tall man, he became a giant.
These things are not important enough to waste a lot
of mental energy on. When the Kingdom comes, you'll have enough time
to meditate on all those things. Also remember, there is
exaggeration. The human likes to exaggerate. As words come from
generation to generation, each generation probably adds a little bit
to it. After ten or fifteen generations, it will be out of