Hello everyone. How are you doing? [speaker problem]
How is everyone in the land of Internet and Cyber Community?
(through the Internet):
Hello Maitreya. I am doing fine.
Great John. How are you? Good to hear your voice.
That was a beautiful e-mail you sent to that gentlemen. There
was a lot of truth in it. We are working on the letter you
received from that friend from the Baha’i people. The truth is
that we did not know anything about Mr. Crème until after we reached
out to humanity in 1982. After that, actually, it was one of
the friends of my wife who told her about Mr. Crème. She knew
and she told Maitreyii that, “Do you know a gentlemen by the name of
Mr. Crème in England who was also saying that Maitreya is
going to come in 1982?” It was after we had already reached
out in the spring of 1982. We said, “No. We did not know
we started researching to see what is going on with this person and
we found yes, that is true. It was not only that Mr. Crème was
Maitreya was going to come in the Spring of 1982, but also he
placed around a million dollars of ads all over the world and put
ads in almost every capitol city in the world claiming that
Maitreya the Christ is going to come in the Spring of 1982.
Actually, he was the one who called Maitreya the Christ.
So we never really claimed that. Our
did not start in 1982 and suddenly we hear from Mr. Crème and claim,
“Yes, yes, I am the one that he was claiming.” Our
started in 1977 in Denver, Colorado. And that is where I met
Maitreyii, my wife, and I told her that I have to stay in this
country and do this
She asked me, “Do I have any choice?” I said, “No,” and that
married because I was here to finish my education and I was not
finishing my education. I was reading the Koran, the
Bible, the Scriptures, the Upanishads, and all those
books, and I had The Greatest Sign in a rough draft, and I
was writing. But Immigration was sending letters to me, “What
are you doing? Aren’t you going to finish your education?
If you are not, then go back home. You cannot stay here.
You have not taken your comprehensive examination for a year and a
half. You were supposed to take it in six months, etc.”
told her, “I have to stay in this country to do this
and she said, “Do I have any choice?” I said, “No,” and that
course, she started having visions and things like that after she
met me in the center where she was living. It is a long story.
I am sure you know most of it. Actually we spent one week
discussing it in the first Feast. The whole week, that was all
we talked about, how I became Maitreya. Because it was
the first time all these people came to the Feast and only a few
people had lectures. So I was one of the few speakers
[laughter]. Morning and evening that is all we talked about.
that claim is absolutely baseless that we charge outrageous prices
for our lectures and books. Actually most of our books are
sold almost to the cost. The
has been under liability and borrowing money all along. We
have not been able to get out from underneath it yet.
Actually I have not taken one penny from whatever the
has earned. So that claim also is baseless.
people who know me and know the
are very close here. They know that whatever is done is for
God, and the best goes to Him and always He is first. We did
not create this
to make money but to preach the Word of God.
Mr. Crème did is just exactly what John the Baptist did. John
the Baptist came and claimed that Christ is going to come.
Then when Christ came, he could not recognize him. He had to
send his disciples to Christ and ask him, “Are you really the one?”
not surprising that Mr. Crème did the same thing. He came and
Maitreya is going to come in 1982, and he came. But
when he came, he could not recognize him because he had his own
organization, his own followers, and his own ideas of how he should
is exactly what happened to John the Baptist. John the Baptist
had his own ideas about how Christ was going to come. And when
he came he could not recognize him.
these claims are baseless. Still that 1982 foretelling of the
coming of Maitreya is a very small part of all the prophecies
and the things that the
has fulfilled and brought to humanity. I am very unhappy when
I hear the negative things happen and people are so negative and
twist things around the way they really are not.
not making outrageous income out of this
That claim has been there and actually I have a few people who are
with their beings and they believe in what they do and they are very
close to me. If I were a charlatan they would know very soon,
more than anyone else, and they would have kicked me out of here a
long time ago [laughing].
answer is going to come. But it is good that everyone knows these
things. Some of you are not so close to me so these things
might affect you or if you do not know much about it, you can ask.
Actually, if you are a member of the
then you have the right to ask about where the money goes, what the
financial situation is, how we use your income, and all that.
You have the absolute right to know what we do with the funds of the
answer is going to come to you. I am sure you are going to
send it to them. But is he going to send his answer to the
Assembly of the Baha’is? Is that what he is going to do?
[no answer] John, are you there?
(through the Internet):
Maitreya, I believe that is what he plans to do. It is
amazing how two men can go so far apart when we started with such
common grounds. But I think he is going to take that small PS
that he wrote me, to the American Spiritual Assembly.
That is OK. Even negative advertisement is positive for us
because at least people are going to say, “Who is this person that
claims these things?” They are going to go to the website,
and those who have been called for it will find out that what we say
makes sense. Just like all of us who saw it felt, “Oh, it
makes sense, so I am going to go and join the rest of the
is OK. I am not worried about negative advertisement.
Everything is there in our web site. The truth is that, this
is the truth and it makes sense. And those who are really
seeking for the truth will find it here.
can there be so many religions when there is only one God? Can
God send Christianity and then send Islam and say something
different in Islam than Christianity, or Judaism, or Buddhism, or
Hinduism, or the Baha’i Faith? If the Baha’is really want to
follow their teacher, Baha’u’llah and Bab said you have to
investigate, not just follow rumors, or your own feelings about an
this gentleman really wants to know about us, he should come here
and confront us and say, “I am a Baha’i. I heard John saying
all these things about you. What is your claim? Are you
charging outrageous fees for your books and for your conference?”
think $199 is too much for a week of the Feast? I would like
to know. I really honestly want to know (asking a new person
who was in the Feast of Tabernacles).
I never thought about it. I wanted to go and that is what it
said it cost, and that is what I paid [laughter].
(through the Internet):
Well, I printed off the entire book of THOTH from our
library prior to purchasing a copy. And just to print it off
front and back from a library lazar printer, I think it ended up
costing me well over $38 to $40.
Maitreya: You are absolutely right.
Actually, a lot of people are very surprised that we can publish and
distribute a book with 600+ pages for $19. It is absolutely
unheard of. The reason is that the people who are doing it are
volunteers. We do not charge for ink, and paper, and the time
the people spend on it. Do you know how many times we have to
print that book and throw the bad prints out, or edit it? If
you add all those things together, the cost of that book goes
probably to $50 to $60. But we do not charge for those things.
Actually, I would like to eventually give it free, as I said.
I would like to reach a point that we have our own print shop and we
have the resources. I would like to see that THOTH
is given away to every person, in every language, so they can read
and look at it and come up with their own conclusion.
That is what we preach here. We have to each individually
study and find out the truth. You should not take my word for
it. If I say something that is wrong, you just say, “Maitreya,
you are wrong. You are dead wrong here.” We can discuss
it and see who is really the truthful.
So it is absolutely necessary to study. You have to
absolutely research our teaching and compare it with other
Scriptures. Our teaching is based on the Scriptures.
It is not that I sat there and said, “I am going to write a book
based on the Scriptures.” That is how it was revealed.
It is based on the Scriptures. And it absolutely matches every
other Word of God that has come to humanity. It is not
something that I created.
Actually, no man can sit and write a book that is so like a puzzle.
That is one of the things I was wondering when I was writing
and putting it together, and it was coming to me how they go
together. I was wondering, “Who is ever going to understand
it?” It is such a complex and interrelated book that probably
it is going to take hundreds of years, people discussing it, writing
about it, and eventually getting some idea of how integrated it is.
So it is absolutely ridiculous to say that I just claimed in 1982
that I am the one that Mr. Crème was talking about. It was in
the process of being revealed for 5 years before, until it was ready
and we eventually reached out to humanity in 1982.
OK, what else are we going to talk about tonight? Of course,
tonight usually is the open Satsang. We invite people to come
and join us from the community. This is open to the community
to come and join us. We did have some people come before but
apparently humanity is very busy.
the things in the Mission is that the number is not as many as
everyone expected, including you [pointing to a guest]. But we
have good people. We have very dedicated, good solid people.
Actually, apparently if you are not a very good, solid, dedicated
person you usually do not stay around long. Probably it is so
different than anything else that you have seen in your life that
either you have to be openhearted and accept it, or you say, “Well,
this is not for me,” and you run away.
But we have reached thousands, and hundreds of thousands of people
who know about us. Actually, there are around 70,000 something
people who have gone to our web site. Of course, it is not all
different people. Some people come back to the web over and
over again. We have reached a lot of people out there and they
are aware of us. I have invited other religions to come and
join us but they have not come.
But the number to us is not important. It was important in the
beginning. Actually, it is important in the beginning.
Anyone who came to the
it was important to them and they want to have more people in the
I do too, but I am not attached to it anymore. The most
important thing is to get quality people.
We know that we have the truth. We really have found out that
what we have here is the truth. If you find that, then who
cares what the rest of humanity feels or thinks? If you know
you have the truth, yet if no one comes to see that, if not even one
Soul is in the
I still believe in what I teach or have received. So to me
really the number is not important but my own belief in what I have
I believe that everyone should be like that. Everyone should
take it as their own Revelation that God sent it to them. If
they see, “Yes, it makes sense, it is the truth, I believe in it,”
then who cares if it is two people, ten people, fifteen people, or
one million people? It does not make any difference.
Of course, that does not mean that we are not reaching out.
Actually, our outreach is for the whole of humanity. It is not
for just America, or South America, or Asia, or Africa. Every
person on earth has to hear at least once what The Greatest Sign
You know what The Greatest Sign stands for and means?
new person who comes to the
I explain The Greatest Sign to them because what is the duty
of a Messenger? The duty of a Messenger is to give the
Message. That is what I feel that my duty is, to give the
Message to every person, to every individual who comes in contact
with us. So every new person who comes to the web site sees
The Greatest Sign and the Message.
Whoever comes to these meetings or our Conference Room, the first
thing we do is to explain The Greatest Sign to them so they
cannot come later and say, “I never heard about this Greatest
Sign.” When the time comes and God asks you, “Did you hear
about The Greatest Sign?” They say, “No.” He
says, “Oh. No, you did. Remember that day you came to
the Conference Room on the web site of Maitreya and he told
The Greatest Sign and how the seven seals are open: the
awakening of the spiritual forces, the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth,
sacrifice, surrendering and submission, universalism, how you
be(come) an Elect, and eventually bring the Kingdom Of Heaven On
anyone imagine that anyone can sit down and write these things and
claim that it is from God? Can you imagine someone just
sitting down and writing
THOTH? Can you imagine it? Is it possible?
The Greatest Sign, that is impossible for just a man to bring
The Greatest Sign.
I worked one week on it, after I had received it in order to draw it
as it is now. Actually, I had it on a sheet of paper when I
met Sarah-ji. That is all that I had. The middle was a
Swastika and there were the seven seals and the end was another
Swastika, and that was all I had from The Greatest Sign.
of us came together and rented a house in the mountains. I
decided, “OK, I am going to sit down and make the drawing of The
perfect the way it really should be.” I spent one week, almost
day and night, and made how many designs? I made hundreds of
designs, different ways, and looked at it this way and that way.
For the Swastika.
Yes. I was trying to make the Swastika look less like a
Swastika because there is so much negativity against it. It
would not lend itself to what I was trying to do. Eventually,
after one week, on Sunday, I eventually finished The
For instance, I drew The Greatest Sign with the petals
orange, or the petals white, or many different colors, and many
different ways. Eventually, on Sunday afternoon, I said, “That
is it. I got it.”
a sitting room and there was a large picture case window in front of
it. It opened to a valley and a big mountain was in front,
kind of a big hill. I put it on the altar, which was right in
front of that window, and we just stepped back and looked at it.
As we were looking at it, the sky suddenly became cloudy, and it
hailed, a very strong hail. Big hailstones started coming down
and then it stopped and suddenly there was a double rainbow
right in front of the window at the top of The Greatest Sign.
It just gave us all chills. It was WOW. I said, “Well
that is it, guys,” and they agreed.
That was in 1979 that The Greatest Sign was completed.
We looked at it and we accepted it. After that we started
printing them and continued writing. I would write whatever I
had received and Sarah-ji would type them with, what was that?
A manual typewriter.
An IBM Selectric typewriter. Then I would change something
such as a couple of sentences. She would have to type it all
half of the
is on her shoulders. So she is a great gal and she has really
and God loves her a lot. I love her too. She did so
much, so much for the
is just not 1982 that we came up with the
It started in 1977.
I was thinking about what has been prophesied for this Revelation in
terms of persecution. I do not think it has been prophesied
that there would be a lot of persecution for belief in this.
Maybe that is the reason it was revealed in a country where freedom
of religion is allowed.
No, not at all, actually. This time we are supposed to be the
victorious ones. We are the people who are going to obtain the
Eventually God is going to be victorious. As Scripture has
said, it is going to be a sword coming out of his mouth, and that
means with the Word of God. We are going to fight, not with
the sword this time but with the Word of God.
Why can we fight with the Word of God and win? It is because
we have explained so many things that have not been explained
before, and no one knew the meaning of them before this Revelation.
read our teachings, it clears confusion, which is like a cloud in
heaven that covers the Light. A lot of people think cloud is
really that Christ is going to come in the middle of the clouds in
the sky and is caught with the clouds and his followers also will be
lifted to the clouds where he is. Cloud, however, means
Sometimes the preacher says, “You are going to see, someday you are
driving and one person is going to go to heaven and the other one
still will be on earth.” I always thought, what a chaos
[laughter], with all those accidents [laughter]. So they think
what? They think he is going to come in the clouds in heaven.
THOTH explains, heaven means Pure Consciousness. It
is a state of being, it does not really mean the sky is going to
open up. And cloud means confusion. Where do you find
that? In the Bhagavad-Gita it clearly says, “When the
confusion comes and the morality is low, My Spirit will arise on
earth and it will bring a new teaching, strengthen the teaching that
has already been on earth and again will establish God’s Kingdom on
earth, or truth on earth.” So we can see right there the
explanation for a lot of people who did not know it. It is
right there explained so clearly.
what is the end of time? Some people think the end of time
means God comes and sits in a chair over there and says, “OK you go
to hell, you go to heaven.” Really the end time means, a new
age is coming, the Golden Age is coming. The old age is
finished and the New Age, the Golden Age, based on the
Communities of Light and the Eternal Divine Path, is
much joy is here this week together? It is just a small sample
of the Communities of Light. Just imagine that you have
this kind of life every day, and six couples come together.
And believe me you do not have to work very hard. If six
couples really share their resources with each other, you can live
very well and take care of everything easily.
imagine not only six couples living together but your older parents
also living with you who are taken care of. And your children
are taken care of by your parents. So the six couples can go
to work, very little, and have a lot to share with one another.
Your parents are comfortable. Your children are comfortable
and taken care of. And now you are connected also with the
rest of the community, the Communities of Light (COL).
It is going to create such a wonderful, relaxing life without being
afraid if your children are going to be abused or misused, or if
your parents are going to be put in a nursing home that no one knows
who is going to take care of them.
are finding so many nursing homes that have so many problems.
They are not really taking care of the old people. They have
sores. They have a lot of disease. No one is really
there taking care of them because they are left alone by
Communities of Light are the answer. Also in the
Communities of Light everyone will have more time to meditate.
You will spiritually progress too. You do not have to work 10
or 12 hours a day.
have the answers to a lot of questions and a lot of things that have
not been explained. With these teachings, these things have
been explained and are being explained more and more everyday.
The only thing you have really to do is to educate humanity, reach
to them and tell them what it means.
not have to pick up the sword. We do not have to confront
them. We do not have to fight with them, but educate them, and
educate ourselves, first, of course, to know the
and its material so we can tell them what the truth is. Then,
eventually, many people like us will see the truth and say, “Yes.
It makes sense. I want to join.”
number increases we will reach the critical point. I am sure
everyone knows about the critical mass. When the critical mass
reaches the critical point, we will prevail. It is just like
if you have plastic underneath the water in a pool. If you
continue putting bubbles underneath that plastic, it reaches a point
that if you put one more bubble, that plastic comes up to the top of
the pool water.
the same thing. If we increase our numbers more and more, we
are going to reach a point that our critical mass will flip the
balance and we will be able to change the earth easily. But
you can see the number is important. Prophet Muhammed said the
number is the hand of God. And that is true. The more
numbers we have, the more outreach we have, the more people will
join, and so on.
are looking for real people who really believe in this
who are dedicated, and can reach out with their hearts. Not
just reach out because I told them to. Reach out because they
Actually it is wonderful to see people reaching out, people we did
not even know. That is wonderful. When I heard that you
took The Greatest Sign to the Himalayas, that makes my heart
sing. I never met you before. I never knew you before,
but The Greatest Sign is in the Himalayas.
John comes and writes about the prophecies that are wonderfully put
together. Or Ishvara takes care of the web site and puts the
schedule up. Or each of you, Tahirah put the ads in the
magazines, and the T-shirts that Shakti did, and the people are
wearing those. As I said if each of us do a little, a lot gets
numbers increase and dedicated people join us, it will reach a point
that we can talk to Christians, to Jews, to Moslems, to Hindus, to
Buddhists, etc. I have come under the name of the person they
expect to come. All of them, not any of them particularly,
but all of them, are called to come and join us.
are not going to be persecuted, hopefully, at least not physically.
We already have been persecuted mentally and emotionally by the
people who have no idea of what they are talking about. And
then they say things that are not true. That hurts more.
If they say something that is true, it does not hurt. We have
done it. It is OK. So I am guilty. But if you have
not done it and someone comes and accuses you of something that you
have not done, that hurts. You really feel that it is unfair
of a person who is judging you without base.
at least can come and ask us, look at us closer, and then if you
really find something that makes a case, then say it. But just
going and researching a couple of days and coming up with all these
accusations is not fair. It is not a good thing that people do
unfair things for their belief or whatever they are attached to.
So it is good to let the people know that it is not true and defend
ourselves with all our might. But we are not going to get into
Actually, according to our teaching, we have to rejoice, not to
argue but rejoice. In THOTH even it says that if
someone starts arguing with you too much, just say, “Look.
This is the teaching. This is the Revelation. I gave it
to you. If you want it, fine. If you do not want it, you
go your way and I go my way. I leave you to God.” Go to
the next person. Do not argue with anyone. We are not here to
argue. We are here just to give a new Revelation, the Truth.
they want it, fine. Now you have a choice. You can
accept it and say, “Thanks God,” and go your way. You can take
it and say, “Thanks God,” and go preach it to other people.
You can say, “Thank you, God, I want to help more.” You can
say, “Thank you, God, I want to give my life to this.” So you
have the choice from just taking it and saying it is a good idea, I
like it, or you can take it absolutely and say, “I want to become a
sannyasin. I want to become a teacher of the
I want to dedicate my life to this cause.” It is up to you
what you want to do.
is your calling? What has God called you for? Just look
at your life. “I was growing up and I was thinking that I will
preach God’s Word. Now God’s Word is here. Then I have
to go and preach God’s Word.”
here to get married and create the Communities of Light, and
invite other married people to join me and create an environment
that sannyasins can come, stay with us, and preach the Word of God.”
So it is a possibility from doing nothing to absolute dedication to
worried about how to continue the
OK, I am getting old. I am getting around fifty some years old
and pretty soon sixty and then seventy, eighty, one hundred, one
hundred twenty, one hundred fifty [laughter]. But anyway I
have never seen a Prophet lives very long.
only Prophet who lived very long was Buddha. Buddha lived
around 80 years. He was actually a reformer, mostly. He
came to reform Hinduism because the Brahmins had become too
powerful. They had forgotten about God and they became god
is the problem with most of the religions, that the preachers
replace God Himself. You go to the priest and the priest says
that that is what God wants you to do. But really what the
priest says is what he wants you to do.
Mullah comes and says, “God says if Solomon Rashti said something
about Islam, cut his head off.” That is not what God is
saying. God does not cut anyone’s head if they said something
bad about Him. It is the Mullah’s idea that he is saying these
same thing happened to the Brahmins. The Brahmins became so
powerful, and it was taught that if the Brahmins say this, everyone
should give them everything they wanted.
Brahmins replaced God, and Buddha came to destroy that kind of
system. That is why he said, do not worry about God and
Brahma, etc. Just work on yourself.
the preacher says, “We are God’s representative,” and what do they
do? They enslave you. That has happened to every
religion. The preachers become the power instead of God.
Maybe that is why Baha’i said, “We do not need any preachers, and we
do not have any preachers.”
have to educate people that they should not take the preacher as God
Himself. Some people say, “You are a cult.” I say, “No,
we are not a cult,” because what is a cult? A cult is when the
person who brings the message becomes more important than the
message itself. That is when a cult is created.
What am I saying? I
am saying, “No, do not be attached to me. This body is going
to leave. It is not going to be here forever. When I am
dead, I am dead. But the Spirit behind it is going to be here.
God is going to be here forever.”
connecting you to God and the Message is more important than the
Messenger. So we are not a cult. We are the Messengers
and we do not have a cult mentality at all.
what does a cult do? They take the children from their parents
and they disconnect them from their family. They say their
family is no good. It is not our teaching at all.
Actually, we encourage you to be connected to the family, help them
out, and help your parents.
would love to have your parents connected to us and believe in what
we believe. We do not want to disconnect them at all. Of
course, they are pretty old. They have their set-ups, their
ways. It is hard to change old people to a new set-up.
was not able to change my own parents to accept this new revelation.
My mother believed a little bit. She came and stayed with us
for six months. She was starting to understand a little bit.
My sister was very touched, very touched with the
and what we say. She is very pleased. She is one of my
defenders now in Iran.
they are touched but even my sister was afraid. She wanted me
to come and visit her in Iran but she said, “When you come there do
not say that you are a Prophet or anything.” It is because
they do not believe that anyone is going to come after Prophet
Muhammad, which is not true.
I just wanted to pass along what Maitreya’s sister said.
She was in a taxi in Iran, and there were a couple of people also in
the taxi to go to another place.
Someone asked her where she was from and she said, “Shahrasar,”
which is one of the villages in Taleghan Province outside of Tehran.
That is where
Maitreya’s family is from and where he spent many summers.
And then this person said, “Oh, did you know that the Mehdi
(Messiah) is supposed to come from Taleghan?” [sounds of
So God was preparing her before she came. Actually, well, as
you remember, I wrote to you, John, that that village is called
Sherhrogan in Taleghan Province but the village that my grandparents
were priests in is Shahrasar, which sounds like Shamballa. You
know, Shahrasar and Shamballa? It almost has the same rhythm,
Shahrasar and Shamballa.
told my sister that they are expecting their Mehdi to come from that
area. That is another prophecy if you want to consider it.
I do not know how important it is but that is another piece that can
be added to God’s confirmation of our
an incredible Revelation. It is an incredible thing that has
been fulfilled for humanity. All of us are connected to it and
we have to realize what God has given to us in this moment of human
history. We see all the signs that say, “Yes, such a
Revelation should come and it has come.”
it shows that God exists. That is what I asked when I was a
kid, “You show me God, and I will believe in Him.” They could
not do it. But God showed to me that He does exist because He
said He was going to do these things and He has done them.
course, I have no doubt anymore, God does really, really exist.
But we have to impart this Revelation in the purest possible way to
humanity so we can bring them by our words and our teachings and our
understandings and our dedication to the
and make them realize what is happening here.
is happening here is that the last Revelation from God has come to
humanity. It has unified all the religions of the world,
fulfilled all the prophecies, and God’s mystery has finished.
So we are very lucky people that we have the last Revelation from
is no mystery left. If you have a mystery left, it is probably
you asking me to prove that God exists. That is probably the
only thing you have to prove to yourself. Does God exist?
The proof is that He said that My very existence is the proof that
God does exist. God said that He is going to do this, He is
going to send this Messenger, that He is going to open the book
sealed with the seven seals (Revelation, chapter 5), and open the
seventh seal unifying humanity, and give the way that reveals the
mystery of God.
does exist. These things all happened, didn’t they? In
it has been proven that all these things happened. Therefore,
the conclusion is that I have no choice but to accept that God does
exist and He is The Spirit.
cannot see Him. But if we really meditate and progress in our
spiritual progress, we will experience Him. And when we
experience Him there is no doubt and we will be left knowing that
God does exist.
Believe me, 99% of humanity really does not believe that God exists.
That is why they do all these terrible things to each other and to
their own lives. If you truly believe that someone is looking
at you all the time, and that you will be judged for your actions,
then you have no choice but to be on your best behavior, and you do
not do the things that humanity does to one another. You
realize, “Oh, God is looking. If I do some bad thing to that
person God will know and I surely will pay for it.”
person who goes and kills another person, he absolutely does not
believe in God. If he believes in God, he knows that God is
looking at him when he is doing that. He looks to see if there
is any camera there. You do not need a camera, God is
looking! There is the all-present God all the time.
we really believe in Him then we do not think we can probably say
things we do not really believe, because God knows our hearts.
When we say we believe in the
“Yeah, I am dedicated but I am not going to do anything about it.
I am just going to pretend that I am dedicated,” then what?
You think God does not know your heart, really what is in your
heart, really in your heart? He does.
have said many times, you have to be honest first with yourself,
really, really honest and look at yourself honestly. Am I
honestly understanding what
Maitreya is talking about? Do I honestly say that which
is truthful and correct, or am I still saying things that are my
desire to be what I say but I am not there yet?
is a Path of purification, a Path of complete truthfulness to
yourself. And we eventually have to create a world that is
based on this truthfulness. In that world where the Kingdom
will come. God will manifest Itself in all levels.
is a story about the American Indians. When they first came to
this land a person by the name Maasauu came and brought the religion
of the American Indians to them, and he told them that they have to
continue it by the stories from father to son and son to son etc.
So their religion of that Great Spirit, all came from Maasauu, which
is very close to Messiah. And they are even waiting for
Maasauu (Messiah) to return.
they came to him and said, “You become our leader, because we do not
really have any leader, so you should become our leader.” He
said, “No. You are not ready for me yet. You are not
completely pure that I become your leader.” So he refused to
accept their offer.
is how the Kingdom is going to come. We have to purify
ourselves and get ready for His Leadership, for God’s Kingdom, for
His Spirit, to really manifest on earth.
each of us has to really look very deeply in ourselves and purify
ourselves. And all these things, these tools are given:
the Reminder, meditation, chanting, dancing, all this is to
bring a deeper understanding of ourselves and a unity in the
community. And where can we purify ourselves faster, in the
community, or in our own house, or apartment?
In the community.
In the community. Even this week we were together, probably
you saw things in each other that you can improve that you had not
seen before. Or you saw yourself in a situation that you felt,
“Well, I can improve myself a little more.”
community, after a while, the people do not have any barriers or
politeness with each other. They tell you right to your face
that, “Hey, look, shape up. If you do not shape up, we cannot
live with you.” So maybe a week is not enough [laughter].
But if you get together a couple of years, you learn your lessons
not bad. If I have shortcomings and someone tells me, I have
to thank them, “Thank you. I did not see it myself.” How
can I improve? How can I become a better person? Because
that is what the spiritual progress is, isn’t it? Spiritual
progress is to reach a point that you do not have to lie. You
do not have anything hidden.
not have anything hidden in my life. If anyone wants to come
and search me or go to my room and search and search the
organization, I do not have anything hidden. That is why I am
not afraid of IRS or anyone to come here and see what happens to all
this money we make in this organization [laughter]. Sure, come
here. It is all open. I will tell you where the money
comes and where the money goes and all that. Or my own life.
And I do not do it for anyone else. I do it for myself or God.
instance, in a marriage there should not be any infidelity between
the couples. You should not do it because you are afraid of
your wife or husband. You should not do it because you do not
want to do it, because God said, “Do not do it.” Period.
is how we should be. We should do it because God told us to do
it. Then we feel the freedom. Then we feel, we see, how
free we become. You do not have to lie at all. Even you
can tell your partner, “I am not doing it for you, I am doing it for
God.” Also your partner will feel very comfortable because he
or she feels you are trustworthy. It creates a great
relationship between a husband and wife.
are the gems of the truth that all of humanity has to be told.
We have to work on ourselves because I know in everyone there are
things to improve.
started doing self-analysis when I was around 13 or 14 years old.
I became very interested in psychology, and I eventually read a book
called, Self Analysis. It was talking about how to
write about your own dreams and psychological problems.
For instance, you decide
to give a lecture, and you go to the lecture and you just mess the
lecture up. You do not do a good job at all. And then it
says, “Sit down and say, ‘Why did I do that?’” Then you
remember, “Yes, three days ago also I was going to talk in front of
a couple of people, and I messed it up. Oh, yes, a week ago,
two years ago, five years ago, the same thing happened.”
Eventually as you go deeper and deeper you realize the same pattern
happening all the time. You realize that, “Oh, yes, because
anytime I wanted to talk, for example, my parents shut me down.
So I learned not to say too much.”
course, then I did not believe in reincarnation. Now I know
that some of the psychological problems have nothing to do with this
lifetime. You have to even go to previous lifetimes.
Probably I am afraid of being crucified, huh [laughter]?
something we have to do ourselves, to meditate and go deeper.
Even go through a situation. You have a desire for something.
Close your eyes, “OK, I am going to fulfill that desire through my
meditation.” Just go through it and look after it is finished,
“So what? It did not mean anything.”
have a desire, for instance, for having a motorcycle, to ride it all
over New Mexico or United States. Just imagine, if you have
the motorcycle you have to change the oil, you have to be a mechanic
[laughter], your engine is going to go, and you might get in an
accident. The motorcycle is the most dangerous vehicle.
So after a while you say, “No, I do not really want it. It is
just a shallow desire.”
really get to the bottom of any worldly desire you will see that it
is really not worth it. Then you say, “The only desire that is
good is Godly desire.”
someone was saying the other day, there was a person who never
really considered the Ten Commandments. And one day he said,
“OK, I am going to follow the Commandments for a while.” He
did. And then he realized, “WOW. It is such a freeing
life when you follow the Ten Commandments.”
Ten Commandments are not for God. These things are not for
God. He does not need any of them. He can do whatever
He wants. Do you think it is going to affect Him if you do not
follow His Commandments? He is beyond all these things.
He is sitting completely detached. He is like the observer of
the Universe. He just observes us, like enjoying how foolish
we are, just sitting and looking at our foolishness.
for us, that He sends His Revelation, and He says, “Create the
Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth.” Still He does not want to be
King, He is the King anyway. Whether we like it or not, if we
read THOTH, He directed the history. Didn’t He?
He really created everything we read in history.
brought it to this point? Who is the King? Isn’t the
King the one who does things and makes the decisions and implements
them? So He is already the King. We really do not have
to make Him a King, He is already a King. The only thing is,
when the Kingdom Of Heaven comes, who is going to benefit? We
and His Revelation and His Word is not for God, it is for humanity
and humans. We are the people that He sent this to for our own
good. So if we follow the Fifteen Commandments, who is going
to benefit? We are going to benefit.
do the Reminder, are you doing the Reminder for me?
No. If you do it for me you are not going to benefit. I
am not going to benefit either because I do not care [laughing].
But if you do it for yourself, now just imagine in one week how much
your mind is directed to God more in this week together then or when
you are out there in the world without the support of the
community. It is your call. It is your judgment.
You judge yourself how much it affects you when you are doing this
guess this lifetime God made it very easy for me that I should not
be attached to the result of my actions. It is not really up
to me, I only have to give the Revelation to people, and it is up to
them to follow it. So I am not really attached to any of
these. Maybe that is why so many people are not here because I
was very unattached about it. So they left and I said, “OK,
bye, bye.” And they probably did not like that. Indeed,
if I am attached then we may have a cult. Since we do not
force anyone into the
we cannot be a cult.
is all for us. God does not need us to create the Kingdom Of
Heaven On Earth. He does not need us to create the
Communities of Light. But we will because it is engrained
in us, because we have been meditating on this for lifetimes,
because we have dedicated our lives before even we came to this life
that we will do His Will.
Actually you cannot resist The Call. For one year, before I
I kept telling Him, “You have got the wrong man. I am not the
one.” But eventually He got me. I realized that I have
no choice but to do His Will.
is what I feel for people who come to the
if they are called to do this Mission, they have no choice.
They have to come to the
and join this. If they have a choice, they do not belong here.
I did not have any choice. I had to do this
So will those who will help me on this.
have to say these things to humanity. We have to teach them
how wonderful God is, such a splendid, wonderful Being that it is
impossible for any human to imagine what it means.
a dream when I was in Colorado Springs. His Love is so
incredible that no human love ever even comes close to it. It
is absolute Love, absolute fulfillment. If you experience it
once, no earthly love can ever be compared with it. It was
absolute ecstasy. I cannot explain it as there is no word for
it, really, in any language. It is probably a million times
greater than the best mother who loves her child. It is
all of you experience that Love and Oneness with Him. And if
you do, you absolutely become detached from everything in the world
and worldly things.
this is it. We have talked about it for the last twenty years.
Actually, I feel I have already said everything. I am just
mumbling tonight. What do you call it?
Rambling [other words being offered but cannot hear well].
I used to have a lot to say but now I am waiting for people to ask
me something to say because I think twenty years of saying things
covers almost everything, doesn’t it? I feel that everything
has been said. There is nothing that we did not cover.
there anything, any topic in the
that we did not cover?
About meeting your wife, I never heard those stories [laughing].
You would like to hear it? You did not read the writing, “How
I Became Maitreya”?
Yes, on the web site.
Ah, OK. Yes, well. I was in Mississippi when I received
- - well actually I was in the university, I was working for my BA
degree. Well, the problem is, you cannot say one thing, it
goes back and you have to go back to Ananda Marga and what happened
there and all that [laughter]. I came from Iran and all that.
working for my degree and this stream of consciousness was coming
to me. And so I was not able to concentrate on my studies and
education. For example, I was sitting in the class (I was
studying business administration so it was about business
management, hierarchies, and all of that). So the professor
was talking about the hierarchy in organizations and suddenly I
remembered, “Oh, this looks like the triangle upward in the Sign of
Solomon, or the Jewish Sign, triangle upward, triangle downward.”
And suddenly it was revealed to me that, “Ah, the triangle downward
is the Spirit of God. The triangle upward is organization, and
the triangle downward is the Spirit of God.” And I started
thinking, “That is how the true organization should be, because if
an organization does not have the Spirit of God in it, it becomes
anti-organization and that should be, that sounds like an
organization that really brings God’s Spirit into it, therefore, it
becomes a Godly organization.”
professor was talking about organizational structure in an
organization and I would be gone with these thoughts. I was
out of the class. I was somewhere else thinking about these
things, etc. Eventually I finished my courses. Then I
had to take my comprehensive examination. But who was reading
about the comprehensive examination? I was reading the
Koran, I was reading the Bible, and I was going to the
library reading Buddhist books, or Hindu writings or things like
decided to go to Chicago. I had a cousin there with his wife.
I thought, “I am going to go there one week clear my mind and come
back so I can concentrate on my education.” I went there and
the first night I was there his wife said, “Let’s go see the Baha’i
Temple tomorrow.” We went to the Baha’i Temple, and that
was it. That was the story of how I saw the vision about all
those things that I was reading and receiving, they became connected
to create The Greatest Sign.
I received The Greatest Sign, I even traveled all the way to
Virginia Beach. I went to the Edgar Cayce Foundation there, to
their library. I wanted to know about these signs coming to
me, what meaning do they have? So I went there and bought some
of their books on symbols, and I realized, “That is fantastic.
The things I received really have a deep powerful meaning.”
Anyway, after one year and a half of fighting this idea of
unification of religions and The Greatest Sign, I
eventually said, “OK.” I realized that I had no choice.
I was in Ananda Marga then. That is another organization, the
Path of Bliss. So I said, “OK. I am going to go to
Denver. They know me.” I was there for four or five
years and all of them, most of the Margiis, knew me there. So
I said, “I am going to go there and maybe I will find a couple of
them who understand what I am talking about. We will come
together and start the
I did not know anyone else here in the United States.
So I dropped all the education and everything, and I went to Denver.
After I told a couple of Margiis (people in Ananda Marga) what I am
going to do, apparently they talked to each other and it eventually
went to the top of the organization, and I felt they all became
cold. I was receiving cold feet from them after a couple of
I moved out and at the same time, anywhere I went I met these
Preemies. Preemies were the followers of Guru Maharaji, the
16-year-old guru who came from India. He was big news for a
while in the United States. He came at the same time that TM
came to the United States in the middle of the ’78, ’79.
bumped into these Preemies right and left. And they were
talking to me about the Holy Word. And that is when I had The
Word, The Holy Name. My meditation and mantra changed to The
Holy Name. And they were telling me about this Holy Name.
I said, “Well, maybe these people have The Holy Name. If they
have it, I am off the hook” [laughter]. I do not have to do
anything. They already have it.”
said, “OK, I am going to get initiated with them and see what they
have.” So I started going to their Satsangs, and mixing and
mingling with them. Eventually I said, “OK, I want to get
initiated.” They said, “Well, if you want to get initiated,
you have to say that the guru is greater than God.”
was where I drew the line. No one is greater than God.
Not even the guru. The guru is just to connect you to God, not
to connect you to himself. Actually that is when you find who
is a false teacher. A false teacher connects you to himself.
The true teacher connects you to God. That is the difference.
course, I did not know that then but still I felt very uncomfortable
with that idea of claiming that the guru is greater than God.
I said, “No. Forget it. I do not want your initiation.”
heard that there was another organization that one of teachers of
the Divine Light Mission (which was the Guru Maharaji,
organization), one of the Mahatmas, had split from him and opened a
center called, the Self-Realization Center. I said, “OK.
I will go to check these guys out to see what they have. Maybe
I can find out if they truly have The Word. I had heard that
he used the same mantra that Guru Maharaji revealed. So maybe
I could get it from him and see, and maybe he does not want me to
claim that he is greater than God.
went to that organization. A gentleman, Steve, came down and
we talked for a while. He said, “Why don’t you come for
Satsang, Wednesday?” Anyway it was Wednesday or Thursday.
That day I went there, and Mahatma came and gave Satsang.
I sat there and after he finished I just walked away to go home.
Sarah-ji ran after me and asked, “Do you want to come for dinner on
Friday?” And I looked at her eyes and two black eyes looking
at me. I…
That is because we were in the room meditating and there was this
tunnel of light between us and I had never had an experience like
that before [laughing]. “Oh my golly, what is this all about here?”
She had already started having some experiences about me, seeing the
light, etc. And I just looked at her eyes and I said, “Sure, I
will come.” I went to my roommate and told him I was going to
marry that lady in a couple of months. He was an American,
named Rodney. He said, “Are you crazy? You Iranians come
here and you think the American women are just going to fall all
over you [laughter]?” And all that. “They are not like
that. It is going to take a couple of years. You cannot
marry her.” Two months later we were married [more laughter].
course, she had some experiences. We went out one night, I
think, a date kind of thing. It was just to get to know her a
little more. Then I took her to a park and showed her The
Greatest Sign and said, “That is what I have to do.” She
said, “Do I have any choice?” I said, “No.” That was it.
We were married a month later. And we have been married since.
think that was an arranged marriage [laughter]. Americans say,
“What are these people in India and the Middle East, they have all
arranged marriages?” What is bad about it? In the
community two people have been grown together and it is a Godly
base your marriage on God, almost any two people can marry each
other successfully. You do not have to be each other’s
sweetheart and spend a couple of years together and be compatible,
etc. Why do you want to be compatible [laughter]? When
he is focusing on God, and she is focusing on God, they are
compatible because their focus is not on each other. That is
because you never can become one physically, but you can become one
spiritually and that only happens when you are focused on God.
Then you are one, and you have no problems.
course, a relationship needs a lot of work. There are two
people. Two different people are trying to be close to each
other. They have to work it out, there are some compromises
that have to be made, and some understanding has to be created.
But if you meditate together and concentrate on God, those things
become very small.
just give up and say, “We can work this out together because we have
a greater purpose to be with each other, to create the
Communities of Light, to have a center that the other people
come and feel wonderful about our relationship, the relationship
between us and our child, and our children in the community.
We have to give up our egos for this wonderful
So that greater purpose completely melts the other smaller purposes,
and the smaller things are no longer important. And you become
from a different culture. I am from a different culture.
But we are still successful in our marriage because it is based on
God. Of course, I can say that because I was westernized when
I was in Iran. It was not a cultural shock for me. When
I came here it was at the time of the Shah and everything was going
toward westernization. That is one of the reasons the Mullahs
did not like it because all their set ups were changing.
say that I felt very comfortable in this culture. I might have
been here before! It was not that big a shock, but still we
were raised in two different backgrounds. But we got along
fine because we were doing the
course, she is a very good girl and that is why we get along.
She is better than me [laughing]. But that is really an
arranged marriage, because God wanted this to happen, and it
happened. And that is why it works.
base your marriage and relationship on God, not on each other.
Otherwise, it is not going to work. Well, we talked about that
before many times. No two people can come and become one.
It is impossible. But two people connected to God, can become
Well, you know, when you showed me The Greatest Sign the
first time, I had no idea what you were talking about. I had
no idea. But all I knew was that it was an answer to my
prayers. That is all I knew.
think I understand a little bit [laughter].
She is a brave lady. She is a brave lady, really.
Someone comes here and says, “I am going to change the world and
this Revelation is the last Revelation and I want to get married.”
You have to be very brave to jump on this and accept it! But,
of course, as she said, she already was getting prepared for it.
Maitreya, I have a question on this topic. It talks
THOTH that when two people get married and they merge
with their other parts and they become one. They find what was
lost way in the beginning. But it also talks about like if you
are a renunciate or a sannyasin, that eventually you come to a point
where you merge with your other part. I am wondering about
that. Does that mean that as you progress so much spiritually,
even if you are on your own, eventually you just come into that
fullness, that you feel really complete?
Well, each individual has the potential of becoming complete.
You really do not need any other person to be complete because
completion comes with oneness with God and Spirit. So that
Spirit is both male and female. It is not something that you
need really another person to feel complete. You will feel
complete by yourself.
Well I guess, because the way it is worded in THOTH,
it says if you are in that state that you merge with your other
part. And I guess that is what I am wondering about.
In THOTH it is based on creation of man as male and
female, and then God separated them into two parts. So it is
true that the female body has more female energy in it, it has more
Grace in it than the male, which is more logic. But we cannot
say men are all completely logic and the female is completely Grace.
You can see even men have some Grace and some females are very
is not something that we can completely cut into black and white and
say, “Every woman is Graceful and every man is logical.” But
in general that is the truth, in a relative sense.
you really truly find your other part you absolutely feel very
comfortable together and it seems you almost merge to each other.
But you cannot really merge to each other because you are in the
physical body. But in Spirit, of course, you become very
comfortable with your partner. And if you are Godly, your work
becomes a kind of a dance together. There is not much of a
friction between such a husband and wife. The true
relationship is when two people are really dancing with each other
and creating that kind of relationship.
are a sannyasin, most probably you have not found your other part or
you do not have any part in the body so you direct your relationship
with God and you merge with Him/Her/It. He completes everyone.
He is everyone’s wife and everyone’s husband. So that is why
the Sufis just love God. That is the path of Sufism. They sing
to Him. They make poems to Him, and they become the lover of
with Krishna, the Gopis are 144,000, 150,000 cowgirls who are all in
love with Krishna. And every night each of them has a Krishna,
which dances with her and is with her the whole night, and they
dance all night together.
can Krishna, one Krishna, be 144,000 or 150,000 Krishnas? Of
course, it is really referring to our spirit within ourselves.
The atman or god is the same as God Himself.
can see that every person can be complete by God. But if you
really have another part that has been made for you, then, you have
no choice, you are just like magnets going to come together and get
married or the marriage will be arranged for you as mine was.
a very small topic in the
and we really do not emphasize too much about this matter because
even two people who are not each other parts, if their focus is on
God, they can get along fine. As long as their focus is not on
each other and they do not fall into each other’s lower nature and
support each other’s lower nature and get in trouble with one
another, everyone can get along with the other. If their focus
is on God and higher thoughts, they can just forget and forgive the
small little things, which they might not like about each other.
is not something black and white, let’s put it that way, OK?
It is not something that you can say, “Oh, I have to find my
partner. That is the goal of my life.” If any one came,
“Is it my partner or not [laughter]?” “Oh, it is not.”
OK, next one. It is not something that you can put all your
life in one mission of finding your partner.
not looking for any one really, that fast, to get too close and
marry but it happened. It was there. Actually I thought
I was never going to marry because I did not think I would be that
good a husband. I have too many things in my brain, I had to
take care of. I am too busy to be creative, but God said, “No,
you will marry this girl.”
is not something that should occupy our whole life and become a
subject that really consumes our whole being of, “finding my other
part.” It should be something that if it happens, fine.
If it did not happen, fine.
it happens, it has to be based on the Spirit and God and higher
things together, because then you become one easily. You can
work out problems very easily with each other, and you have a
mission to accomplish together.
bring your thoughts to a higher level and a greater thing in life.
And do not be too concerned about your other part and how it is
really going to work, “Am I going to marry him or her? Am I
going to find him or not?” or “If I am not going to find him, I
should be miserable for the rest of my life,” or “If I find him, how
wonderful it is going to be,” and then you find out it is not as
wonderful as you thought [laughing]. It needs a lot of work
even in a good relationship.
will realize that you do not live in a state of a completely
imaginary thing that you desire a state that you feel is going to
happen. It does not. A lot of, especially women it
sounds like, get hurt because they already have in their minds how
it is going to be. They have already figured it out how it is
exactly going to be [laughter]. And it does not happen exactly
as they want it. And they get hurt.
just like my niece. She thought she had it. She thought
exactly the man she wanted, the way they are going to get together,
and the way she had planned everything before they even got
married. It did not happen. And she became
disillusioned. She is hurt, she is hurt very badly.
life is not something you can plan. You have to flow with it.
You have to accept sometimes that it is not exactly as you want it.
Also see the signs. If I was 50 years old and I still was not
married, I would say, “OK, maybe God wants me to become a
sannyasin. That is the way I am going to go.” I am
sixty, seventy years old and still saying, “Where is my partner?
[laughter] I am looking for him.” Just sometimes we have to
accept our lot and say, “OK, this is the way God brought me to this
point, I will accept my situation.”
most important, at least to me, is to do the
to understand life, to realize, “WOW, what a wonderful thing we have
brought to humanity. What a wonderful thing we have been
called for, the thing that even the Great Prophets desired to see.”
Prophets foretold that when this comes it is going to be even beyond
what they have already received. They have talked about it.
You have to reach to that point that everything else is so mundane,
so little, so small.
that explanation in THOTH is just giving guidelines.
It is not something that should become a consuming thought in our
lives. But if you get to a point that you find someone who can
both work for the Mission
so are connected to God, and you both can get along fine. No
problem at all. Get married.
I was just wondering about the Sannyasin part, how they merge.
Sannyasins, they merge with God. They eventually say, “Forget
it, I am not going to look for a partner.” Or, they already
know that they are sannyasin. They feel that they have been
born for a greater purpose than having a wife or husband and being
in a relationship and having children, etc.
It is not easy to have a
child. You have to raise them. You have to help them.
You have to look after their homework, do math with them and listen
to their music and some of it does not sound very good [laughter].
think it is easy to be married and have children and all that.
It is a lot of work. Not only do you have to have a
relationship with your wife, you have a relationship with your son,
with your parents, and your wife’s parents. It is a whole
you are a sannyasin, you do not have any of those. You are
absolutely free. You can concentrate completely on God and do
His Will. You do not have any wife to create a relationship.
You do not have any children to worry about them and nurture them
and bring them up and educate them and eventually let them go when
they are ready to go. You are free, you are absolutely with
God. You should have nothing at all left for you but God.
That is all there is for you.
reach the point that you realize that you do not have any partner,
and it is not going to happen. You tried very hard, but it did
not happen. You say OK, “I accept my situation.”
Accepting your situation is the beginning of freedom. When you
do not accept your situation, then you are going to fight it, unless
your situation is in such a way that it is interfering with your
spiritual progress. Then you have to do something about it.
You have to say, “OK, this situation with my wife and with my child
is really affecting my spiritual progress.”
as it does not affect my spiritual progress, or it is helping it, I
am doing fine. But if you reach a point that it is interfering
with your relationship with God, that is the only time you have to
reconsider. You say, “Sorry, I love you guys but you are
affecting my spiritual progress and we have to correct this.”
This is the rule for any relationship.
course, it should not be taken lightly. It should be very
deeply meditated on before such a step is taken. But you have
a great responsibility. When you get married you have
responsibility toward your partner, you have responsibility toward
your children, you are responsible for the community, and you are
responsible for the decision you have made.
marriage is a very, very responsible step when someone makes it.
That is what kind of marriage in the communities I would like to
have, based absolutely on Godly reasons.
have such couples with the sannyasins we can create Communities
of Light. We can create an environment that people can
come and feel God and be god.
that make sense? OK.
(through the Internet):
I have a question, Maitreya.
Go ahead, John.
(through the Internet):
In THOTH, in The Holiest Book, the first step
is to meditate and awaken the spiritual forces. It suggests
that we meditate on the power of the tama guna over our Souls.
How exactly would we go about doing that?
Very good question. The question is that in THOTH
it says that we meditate on the power of the tama guna over our
Souls. Actually, I gave the answer to this question in the
beginning of the Satsang. I said you have a desire. What
is the power of the tama guna? It is desire, isn’t it?
It is one of the things that make you fall.
through it in your meditation and see what that earthly desire is
going to do to you and what you are going to accomplish, and how you
are going to come out at the end of it. Go through it, but do
not take action. Take action with your mind first.
Imagine it, and go through it first. Imagine it, go through
it, and say, “If I do this, I will have what I want. Now I
have it, what am I going to do with it?”
anything you gain, you lose something for it. It is the Law of
the Universe. There is no gain that does not have a loss.
If you gain a spiritual thing, you lose a worldly thing. If
you gain too many worldly things, you lose spiritual things.
That is why we said a balance is necessary in our lives.
not shy away from worldly things but we say, “Let’s share it with
each other.” When we share we can do what? We can have
the worldly things without the worldly things enslaving us.
become enslaved of the worldly things, when we want everything for
ourselves. But when we share, that sharing destroys the
enslavement that the worldly things bring to us.
I said, you want a motorcycle, for example. You get a
motorcycle. But when you have desire, you are not thinking
that it is going to leak, it is going to need oil, it is going to
break down. You are not thinking about it at all. You
are thinking about how much pleasure it will bring you.
Pleasure and pain go hand in hand. But when you go through it
in your meditation you realize, now that you have it, what are you
going to do with it?
beginning you have an imagination, you are going to the mountains
with it, the wind is going through your hair, you feel great, and
you are in heaven. But all of a sudden the motorcycle starts
making some noises [laughing] and you have to call the tow truck to
take it to the repair shop.
through it. Not the good part only but also the bad part.
And then at the end you will see, “Is it really worth it?”
Usually, 99% of the time, it is not. You realize that you
really do not want that. One desire is out. Any desire
that is out, you won one. You are free from one of them.
You are closer to God!
is progress? Progress is the lack of shortcomings, isn’t it?
Any shortcoming you have overcome, what happens to you? You
are a little more perfect, aren’t you? If you have a
shortcoming, and it no longer is there, are you a little more
perfect than yesterday? If you are a little more perfect
today, are you a little more perfect tomorrow? No one wants
you to become perfect overnight. You go there very slowly but
you go there if you meditate. If you do not meditate, if you
do not look at yourself, you never go there.
Another way of meditating on the tama guna, is, for example, you
meditate that you are in a good mood and you think about God, you
feel good about God, everything, and suddenly your friends come
over. They bring drinks, drugs, and all those things that
affect your brain. The next day you do not feel good at all.
You do not feel God at all.
what happened? Before they came you were very Godly and you
were very high, on God, not on drugs. Then you feel, if you
are meditating on the tama guna, you say, “This is tama guna.”
It took you from God and Godly thinking. What do you do, if
you really meditated and you want to become perfect, what do you do?
You avoid that kind of situation that affects your mind. So
you are again one step closer to perfection.
is how you meditate on the tama guna. You see how the tama
guna and environment is affecting you. As you really see how
things affect you, you avoid those situations.
talk: if you sit with someone and you talk about everything
else but God and the business of the world. After a while you
hate that person and that person would hate you. You become
very separate from each other because idle talk comes from the first
chakra, first chakra beings greater separation. You do not
want to be in your first chakra. You want to be in your
seventh chakra. Well, of course not the seventh chakra,
because then you are not going to be in your body, so you had better
stay in the sixth chakra [laughter].
am in the sixth chakra, fifth chakra, or fourth chakra, at least the
fourth chakra where you love and are openhearted. You decide,
“The next time I am not going to have idle talk anymore. I am
here to talk about God or business.” Everything else is yea,
yea, or nay, nay, as Christ said.
sit and talk idly, if you are or become more sensitive, you will
realize that idle talk is not good. It will bring you down.
It will bring the other person down, it brings the energy of the
community down, it brings the energy of the whole environment
around you down, because it stimulates the first chakra.
the first chakra is stimulated, it affects everyone. If you
are not strong enough the first chakra affects you. You fall
this is the Path of the brave. We are talking about going to
God, returning to the Godhead. We are talking about the
battlefield. You are soldiers. You are here to do a
battle, a battle with your environment, a battle with yourself, a
battle with the things that are within you and are affecting you.
You are very brave even if you are here in the
because you have to face yourself.
do you think is the scariest thing? The scariest thing is to
face ourselves, to squarely face ourselves and say, “WOW, this is
me? I do not want to have anything to do with him.” But
if you face the unclean creatures in you, and as I said, keep them
in the light for a while, those things vanish, die, go away, just
seem scary. Actually that is why they make themselves scary,
and they are scary if you look at them. But if you are brave
enough to look at them, they go away, they vanish so easily.
They are afraid of light. They only can exist in the corners
of the darkness in our Souls and our being. If we look at
them squarely and put the light on them, they just scream and kick
and try not to be destroyed but they will be destroyed if you keep
them in the light long enough.
that is what it means by meditating on the tama guna and recognizing
its affect on ourselves.
the end result is that you become honest to yourself. You
really look at yourself, “Am I really doing this for ulterior
motives?” Then, if you squarely look, you have to know, you
will know why you were doing it. Then you have to face
that make sense, John?
(through the Internet):
Yes. You rock, Maitreya! [laughter]
What did he say?
You rock, Maitreya [the laughter increased].
I’m BAD! [more fuel for the fire]
And who said that the Mission of Maitreya is not cool
It is the coolest ever. [laughter quieting down] I am
looking for many rocks. Many, many rocks that they can go and
hit the image, the image of the world, and make it to powder and
destroy it. And let these rocks fill the whole earth and
create the mountain, Mt. Zion.
have something there, John. You are right, we are rocks.
We are rocks. That is true.
one rock cannot make the mountain. We need a lot of rocks to
make that mountain. [silence]