Good morning everyone, and welcome to the Satsang of the Mission
of Maitreya, Eternal Divine Path. I hope we have a
very good Satsang today.
Again, we will talk about the Eternal
Divine Path, God’s Revelation, and how the religions of
the world are unified. Being here is for hearing the Word of
God and His Call to humanity to come and become unified under one
teaching that unifies all religions together as one. And God
is calling humanity to come to join us.
As usual, we are going to go ahead and ask to see if there is anyone
new in the audience who has not heard the Eternal Divine Path
so that we can go through the explanation of the Path again
together. If no new person is here, then go ahead if there are
any questions, you can bring them up at this time.
Of course, we have been answering questions for the last
twenty-some years. I would not be surprised if there were not
many questions left. Also, last month was a very interesting
month. We went through a lot of things together and a lot of
purification happened, which was very good.
Many things happened in the
also, and everyone is aware of them, those who are connected to the
who know the events happening. So, as we act and reach out
we all will progress also. Purification happens more as we
reach out, act, and try to do the Mission
and then see ourselves in the process much better.
So, that goes very well with the
teaching of the Mission
that it is easy to go to the top of the mountain, meditate, and you
say you are a great yogi at the top of the mountain. But when
you come to the city and someone pushes you, suddenly you become
angry about it, “Why do you push such a great yogi,” and all of
that. Suddenly you see your impurities much better when you
are in the action in the society, in the process of being with the
That goes very well again with the
Communities of Light. The progress in
Communities of Light is much more accelerated.
Hopefully, we will have Communities of Light
all over the world, everyone in them will progress, have more time
to meditate and look at themselves and say, “OK, I can get rid of
this. I can get rid of that, and I can progress in this way
and that way,” and we all will become greater beings. So
again, being escapist may give you the illusion of being great but
acting will purify you in a greater degree.
As we go through life there are things that happen that we consider
not good, stumbling blocks. Instead of allowing them to make
you fall and you stay down, use those stumbling blocks to become
more aware of yourself and what is going on in your life, to really
face yourself so that they can become stepping-stones. In
other words, they make you go through life more pure. That is
what I would imagine is meant.
Well, I can elaborate that if you have a problem in your life and if
you do not face it, it becomes a stumbling block. And because
you are not facing it you do not know exactly why this problem is in
But if you face yourself and say, “OK, I
have this problem in my life. It is really bothering me and it
is really a blockage toward my spiritual progress.” So, I
avoid the situation. I move from that situation to a new area,
or I leave this city and go to another city. After awhile I
have the same problem again, and I have created the same situation
That is the pattern we were talking
about in human life. Many people, if they really meditate,
will find that they have a pattern in their lives that no matter
where they go, the same thing occurs over and over. “I am in a
bad relationship. I drop this relationship or thing, and then
I fall again into the same trap, and again and again. So there
is something really in me that no matter where I go, it happens
That is what I said, some people say,
“If I move from here to somewhere else, I am going to be OK.”
And they do, and then they are not OK. The same thing happens
to them. So really it is not the place, it is not where we
live, but it is the baggage that we take with us as we go from one
place to another. Then the same problem occurs, and with the
same energy and the same attitude, we create the same situation that
we were in before.
Then we blame everyone else and
everything else in the universe including God that, “Why is He not
helping us?” without our facing ourselves, meditating on it and
saying, “Oh, look, no matter where I go this pattern happens.
Therefore, there is not something wrong with God, or the
environment, or the other people but it is something within myself
that I have to look at.”
When you do that then, little-by-little
through your meditation, your concentration, your realization of
self, you realize, “Oh yes, this is a pattern that happened when I
was in another place. This is the pattern that happened two
years ago. This is the pattern that happened four years ago.
Oh, it is a pattern in my life that is happening over and over
again. Now what is the problem? What is in me that
creates this situation? Really, I am the creator. I am
the person who creates these stumbling blocks,” and if you realize
what they are, you start the process of knowing thyself.
As we said many times, there are
creatures in humans. Of course, they call them psychological
problems, or the subconscious mind, or karmic debts that you have
picked up from many lifetimes, including this lifetime, and you
created ways to deal with the different situations. Each
person deals with situations differently. As you react to the
situation, the situation evolves to what it will be.
As I said many times, these creatures
can live only in darkness, in the crevasses of your Soul that really
you have not shed any light in them, and you do not even know that
they exist. As you meditate and put light on them, and you
keep the light on them, they eventually will die.
Actually, it is not a very difficult
thing. Just see the pattern that is happening. As you
become more aware of the pattern, you become aware of the
unconscious or subconscious level that you are not aware of.
As you put more light on them, these
creatures cannot live in light. That is why meditation and
self-realization is knowing God. So, as you become more aware
of these creatures or these subconscious things, those stumbling
blocks really dissolve themselves, go away, and no longer exist.
You are freer and you can go to any situation without creating the
same pattern that you used to make.
Well, I wondered if that kind of related to Tantra Yoga where maybe
a stumbling block is a desire you have and then you realize through
it how actually it helps you progress spiritually, or something like
Also, I can think of something in my
life that seemed like a terrible stumbling block: the death of
my sister. But yet, it actually provoked me to search for
Also we have to sometimes be careful. There are a lot of
beautiful words out there that we love to repeat and say but we
really do not understand what they mean. The people who say
them should be able to explain what they mean by what they say.
They are pretty. They are beautiful. They are catchy.
It is just like, “We are all gods.”
All right, you mean I created the universe? It sounds good, it
is pretty, but really, you have to think about it.
So, I look at it as more
self-realization, realizing what the stumbling block is, dissolving
it, and taking it out of the way so that you can go further ahead
than how you can make it a stepping-stone.
Well, the death of Sarah-ji’s sister, it
made her to become more seeking of what is the meaning of life, why
are we here. She was alive a couple of hours ago, and then she
was suddenly gone. She is not there with us anymore.
That is how death is. Some people
walk around, and they are OK. Two minutes later, they are not
there any longer. What happened to them? That is why
death is such a powerful instrument to make humans to start
thinking, “What is the goal? What is the meaning of our lives?
Why are we here? I am such a big ego and think I am the best
thing that ever happened to the universe. But then I die and
just am no longer there.”
That is why many yogis go to the
cemeteries, and they meditate in the cemeteries. It is just
like, Shiva used to go there and put a lot of skulls around himself,
and he meditated on the meaning of death, “What happened to these
skulls? It is just bone. It does not move. It does
not have any ego. It does not have anything in it. What
is it? What happened to the life in it?”
So death is a great way of meditating,
“What is the end of my life? Is that it? I come here,
live, eat, sleep, make children, and that is the end of me?
Then I am going to die? Or there is more to me? I am not
my body. I am a greater thing. I am Soul. I have
been here for a purpose, for a reason. I came here to be(come)
Divine. What does that mean? It means to overcome, to
know myself, to be(come) a great instrument for a greater purpose.”
Of course, some humans are born to just
live, sleep, make children, eat, and die. They never even
question where they came from and where they are going.
So, the things happening in your life
might help you to ask yourself these questions, “Why you are here,”
and all of that. But still, you are not self-realized.
For instance, with what happened to your
sister, you became a seeker. But you were not completely there
yet. You were seeking the question of why she died and all of
that. But still you have to go through the purification,
meditation, self-realization, and eventually come to the Mission, and you received
your answer and you said, “Yes, this is something that makes sense.”
Then it makes sense. Still when you are in the
that does not mean that you completely overcame all of the stumbling
blocks in your life.
I would like to hear from someone else,
if they have an explanation also of what that means to make your
stumbling blocks into stepping-stones. I have a hard time to
visualize how a stumbling block becomes a stepping-stone.
From what has been said, when things happen in our lives that we
think are negative, we could look at them and see the truth behind
them. Also, if something terrible or shocking happens in our
lives, like Sarah-ji and her sister, it could cause us to move
toward getting on the Eternal Divine Path. I am seeing
that the stones, the stepping-stones of the Eternal Divine Path,
would be beautiful white pure stones. These stones would be
the teachings of God. So we would step and walk on those
teachings, the stones would be the teachings on the Eternal
Divine Path, to get us to God.
I was seeing that, that is a phrase often used in New Age teachings.
What they are trying to do is to make everything negative into
Yes. But if something is negative, it is negative and it needs
to be dealt with. We need to put the light on it, to reveal it
for what it is, and to put it behind us. But if we keep
saying, “Everything is positive, everything is positive,” then we
are really denying our problems.
We are not dealing with them. We are not facing ourselves.
I think that is part of the New Age thinking that is not going to go
I guess I could clarify what I was trying to explain by trying to
look at it that way. I think what was happening with me is
like the focus would be brought back to God in that situation.
So, as soon as your focus is on God, then you are where you need to
be, how you talk about bringing in the light, the light of God, then
you are looking at it straight on, you are not avoiding it, like we
teach in our teaching.
OK. Let me ask you a question.
There is a poor person who wants to do something great. He has
no financial ability to do what he wants. That is a stumbling
block. How can he make that a stepping-stone?
Right. I suppose what I am saying maybe does not work for
every situation. I was kind of sharing what I was doing in my
I am not asking you, but everyone. If these are beautiful
words, that is what the New Agers and this type of teaching says,
“Oh, everything is OK. Be a positive thinker. You are
gods. Do not worry about it. God loves you,” and all of
that. “Do not listen to the Scriptures or the Prophets,” and
things like that. “You are your own god, make your own path,”
and all of that. All of those things have very beautiful
wording in them, make you feel good, and all of that. But when
you come to the explanation, dissect them, and go a little deeper
OK, “I am God.” “Did I create the
universe or am I in the image of God that, God created me in His
image?” “Oh, that makes more sense! I am in His Image
but I did not create the universe.”
Positive thinking, “I am poor. I
have no ability to do that great task that I am trying to do,” and
then say, “Oh, OK I will make that a positive thing and I will think
very positive of it. I am not poor, I am not poor, I am not
poor,” is not going to help. You have to put some effort into
it. You have to see, “How can I make this situation, solve the
problem, and come to the point that I can get done the things that
should be done in my life?”
So, when these people say these
beautiful words, then you ask about them and go deeper to see what
they mean. A stumbling block means it is something in my way.
Of course, if you can put your feet over it, go over the stumbling
block, pass over it and go to the next step, great. Then it
becomes a stepping-stone. It really does not become a
stepping-stone, it becomes something that you have removed. You
went over it.
A stumbling block sounds to me like, “I
have a lot of stumbling blocks, and I want to go upstairs. So
I take my stumbling blocks and make stairs. I put the
stumbling blocks over each other, and they become the stairs so I
can go upstairs, to higher consciousness.” That means using
your stumbling blocks for stepping-stones to become a kind of stairs
to go to a higher level. Right? If you could put your
feet on the stumbling blocks, they become stairs (stepping-stones).
Well, I have a hard time to see how you
can use stumbling blocks and make them stairs to go to the higher
level. Unless you take the stumbling block, look at it,
realize why it is a stumbling block, take care of it, put it away,
and you say, “Alright, I am done with that stumbling block, what is
the next stumbling block?” and you really get them out of the way
instead of using them to go upstairs.
So, I think that is another one of those
wordings that sounds good but when you really analyze it, you
realize that really a stumbling block is something that you
overcome, you dissolve it, and you realize it by taking care of it.
Unless someone comes up and tells me the answer to the question, a
poor person wants to buy a half a million dollar home. How is
he going to do it with making the stumbling block a stepping-stone?
Coming to the realization that happiness does not come by having
money, and becoming more spiritual, going towards God, and realizing
that it is OK not to have a lot of material things.
OK. Let us put it another way. Someone wants to become a
spiritual teacher, but they have some mental problems. The
desire is there, but there is a stumbling block in their way.
How are they going to be able to do that?
So it is to really destroy the stumbling block.
It is like someone wants to become a great spiritual teacher, but
still they have a lot of desires, attachments, and all of that.
Unless they overcome those things, they cannot become completely a
channel for God because the purity is not there. Therefore,
those things are going to make them not become a pure channel.
What about the Jewish people, they were given so much hardship in
order to become pure?
But that is different. That is not a stumbling block.
That is the process of purification, of going toward God.
This thing on stumbling blocks and you were talking about placing
them on top of one another and making stairs to go to the higher
consciousness, reminds me very much of the tower of Babel. You
know, they took their blocks, they built them up, and they said, “We
are going to go to God.” What happened to them? They
were scattered all over, throughout the world. You cannot go
to higher consciousness by putting under yourself your impurities
and stepping on your impurities. That is not going to get you
anywhere at all.
Does that make sense?
Yes. I think that is why I did not understand it. Part
of it was not logical.
Yes. There are a lot of beautiful words out there that are
thrown around. It sounds like they make sense but they
actually make you confused, and you think, “Wow, those were pretty
words.” But really, you do not understand what they mean.
It is something that we have to be really careful about, in our
spiritual path. Pretty words sometimes can actually be
stumbling blocks in your way.
That is a good question. There are
pretty words that are stumbling blocks. How can you make them
Do not believe them.
That is right. Do not believe them.
It was very helpful that Keyosha brought it up as a question.
So, we should question everything that we hear.
Exactly, you have to question yourself. You have to question
the other peoples’ teaching. You have to question even your
own realization. Eventually you come to realize that the way
is the Eternal Divine Path, the Communities of Light,
living in the community, seeing yourself in the community, then
overcoming those problems you have, and then you will become freer.
I think that is great. I think that is why I did not
understand the question. I was really struggling to understand
it because I thought there was something there.
The other thing that came up in the Chat Room had to do with Maya
and Grace. What was written in the Chat Room was Maya and
Grace are the same. And then another statement said, “Ego uses
Grace.” And these things did not make any sense to me.
So, I called them. I said, “What does that mean? I do
not understand that.” Then it was put in other words and
still, even in these other words, it sounded like ego and Grace are
in the same category and that ego knows how to use Grace. To
me this makes no sense at all. I mean that if ego is using
Grace, we are in bad trouble.
Well, that is how the religions start [laughter]. The
disciples and the people who hear the teachings start interpreting
the teaching according to what they understand from it, and they say
something that catches people, just like, “Make your stumbling
blocks into stepping-stones.” It is a beautiful metaphor that
you can think about, “Yes, that is beautiful. I am going to
make my stumbling blocks into stepping-stones.”
But then, what does that mean? You
struggle with it for the rest of your life and try to do that, and
you never analyze exactly what that means.
Understanding the teaching completely is
so important. That is why it is so important to understand
exactly what is Grace. Can Grace even manifest if there is
ego? That is the question.
The Grace comes when you are completely
a channel of God. You let God come through and the Spirit
comes through. Actually, ego is the umbrella that we all have
at the top of our heads so The Grace cannot come to us because we
have that umbrella over our heads.
The only thing that God does not like in
the universe is ego. Ego means anything that blocks God’s
Grace to come to us. So how can ego be the same as Grace?
But Grace is the same energy that we use
in the universe. Really, Grace is energy, is raja guna.
Now if we use the raja guna for the worldly things, then that energy
becomes worldly, bondage, karma, and prevents us from seeing that we
are a part of God, that we are a being here to become Divine, that
we can overcome those things that keep us from God, etc.
Now if we use the energy for the higher
things, for Godly work, for Godly things, then the very energy
becomes Grace. It helps us to go toward Godly things. It
is the same energy that becomes worldly, or it is the same energy
that becomes Grace.
It is just like Grace is the female part
of God, right? Eve fell. So The Grace became bondage.
They were thrown out of heaven. Before that, The Grace, which
is the same energy, was in heaven, and they did not have to till the
ground. They were happy. Everything they needed was
provided for them. But they misused The Grace, and that is
when the metaphor in the Bible, the female, fell. The
female is the energy of the raja guna. That was why the whole
So it is the same energy, you can use
for a greater purpose and it becomes Grace, or, you can direct it to
the worldly things and spend your time and energy to accumulate
wealth, money, a bigger car, a bigger house, bigger worldly things,
and eventually reach a point that you are completely a slave of the
worldly things (ego), and you become a politician, and you have to
have two faces.
Especially if you are a person who
claims to be spiritual, at the same time you have a great desire for
the worldly things, then you have to become two-faced. You
have to play games. You have to go to the world and become
worldly, and come to the spiritual people and try to look spiritual.
You cannot have two masters!
It is just like what Christ said,
That the one who was humble was saying, “Oh, God, I am such a
sinner. Please forgive my sins and help me to purify.”
The other one was rich and was saying, “Hey, I am glad that I am not
like that poor man over there, God. I am great.” Which
one goes to heaven?
Or, you cannot have two masters.
You are going to leave one and go to the other. Why? It
is because they just do not go together.
If you are worldly, be worldly. If
you are worldly I push you more to go toward the world. Be
satisfied with the world first, and when you are done with it then
come and say, “Oh, I have had enough of this world. I do not
want to have anything to do with it.” Then you become
But in the Communities of Light,
you do not have to do that. You can have the minimum material
things and take care of your physiological and safety needs.
The rest is sharing with each other. When you share in the
Communities of Light, everyone has his or her physiological and
safety needs taken care of, so what is left? The only thing
that is left is to go toward God.
Really, what do we need? We need
only physiological and safety needs. The rest is going toward
But if each individual wants to
accumulate wealth for him or herself, it becomes a very self-centric
life. Most people would never make it because the only way you
could make it probably is if you have millions and billions of
dollars. Even those people who accumulate a lot of money for
their retirement, if they become very sick, what happens to that
money? It goes right down the drain to the hospital and doctor
bills and all of that.
Of course, hopefully, in our system
eventually medical care and education is going to be free for
everyone. They would not have to pay all their money, or
income, for those purposes.
So, we can see that we have to create
the physiological and safety needs for humanity. The next step
We have to look at ourselves.
Which one are we? Are we worldly, or are we spiritual?
If we are spiritual, we have no choice but to come and join the
Communities of Light, or create the
Communities of Light, so our physiological and safety needs
are taken care of easily. The rest is to go toward God.
Or, if you are worldly, go to the world.
Do not waste your time just to try to become spiritual, stay in the
middle, and become lukewarm. That is what God said, “I do not
like those who are lukewarm.” If you want to become spiritual,
become spiritual. If you are worldly, become worldly.
Do not stay in the middle. That is
the worst place to be, in the middle. The worldly people go to
the world and put their effort into the world, and some of them are
even happy where they are.
Of course, no one is happy unless they
turn around and go toward what they have been created for.
What have they been created for? They have been created to
become Divine. They have been created to become Godly.
So that is the decision you have to make.
If you are worldly, then you use the
Grace for what? What is Grace? Grace is energy. I
use my energy to accumulate wealth. Is that Grace, or does
that become bondage? It is the same thing. It is the
same thing that becomes Karma, it becomes attachments, it become
desires, it becomes things that make us more and more bonded to the
OK, “I am spiritual. I go to the
mountains, and I try to completely forsake this world.” Then
you become one of those yogis living in the mountains. When
many people become escapist we see that society falls apart.
It is like in India where there is so much disease, so much misery,
and so much unhappiness.
So we can see that neither being an
escapist, nor being worldly, will work. What is going to work?
You can see that the Communities of Light are going to work.
That is the answer, the Eternal Divine Path.
Yes, you meditate, you awaken your
spiritual forces, and you try to realize yourself, overcome
attachments, and desires. But where do you do this? You
do this in the Communities of Light, with other people.
Also, other people are going to let you
know what is wrong with you. Oh, maybe they are nice to you
for the first six months or the first year living with you.
But if you continue doing things in the community that are
destructive, eventually they are going to let you know, “Look, we
tried for six months to be nice to you, but you have these problems.
You have to take care of them.”
So who is meditating? Not only are
you meditating, but they are meditating also on you. The whole
group is meditating together. So you will be able to help each
Criticizing or seeing the problem in the
other person is not attacking them, it is not making them feel
miserable, but it is guiding them and pointing out their stumbling
blocks so they can take care of them, put them away, and they can go
ahead with their spiritual progress.
So we can see that forsaking the
society, forgetting the world, and going to the mountains does not
work. It leads to escapism. To become completely worldly
and want to live all by yourself, each individual or family, is not
going to work either.
As we said, many people work all their
lives and they put away a lot of money for their retirement fund and
all of that. When they are around 65, 70, or 80 years old,
they have so many diseases and suddenly all that money goes down the
drain to nothingness. All their life they have been saving for
But in the Communities of Light
with a good diet, with everything that the Mission has given
you, you will not be like that when you are 60, 70, or 80 years old.
And even then, when we create the envisioned society (KOHOE) the
medical care and education will be provided for everyone.
So your physiological and safety needs
have been taken care of. What is there? There is
self-realization, awakening of your spiritual forces, directing your
energy toward the creation of the
Communities of Light, and sacrificing for them.
Are those people who spend all their
life accumulating only wealth for themselves sacrificing? They
are not. So we can see again, the answer is the Communities
of Light. The answer is our teachings, and the answer is
to know where we are at and how much are we putting our effort and
energy to creating these Communities of Light.
For humanity, this is the answer for all
the problems we have. But the energy is the same. The
Grace is energy. You can use that energy for the higher
things, or you can use it for egoistical things. That energy
is not ego. It is how we use it, how we direct it.
As I said, ego actually is an illusion.
It really does not exist. It is an illusion of separation from
God. That is really the illusion of Maya. Maya is the
illusion of being separated from God. So, if we shatter that
illusion, then we are realizing completely that God is always
connected to us.
He knows that He is connected to us.
He knows that He is one with us. It is we who have created
this illusion that we feel that we are separated, we are alone, we
are lonely, or that no one in the universe is connected to you.
That illusion is ego. Really, in a
sense, ego does not exist. Ego is just an illusion that we
have. But this illusion is so real that humanity has a hard
It is just like a veil. That is
why in some religions they call it a veil, which separates you from
Maitreya, I was wondering if you could talk a little bit
about the Middle East. I know that that is where you came
from, where you were born, and I think you have a real deep insight
into what is going on there.
Well, if the Jews and Moslems accept our teachings, they would not
have any problems, would they?
What part of the Middle East do you want
me to talk about? Do you want me to just talk about between
Jews and Moslems, between the Palestinians and Jews, or the whole
Islamic concept and Jewish concept? Do you want to specify
anything special because that is a very broad question?
Well, I know that all the religions of the Eternal Divine Path
that you set out on The Greatest Sign are there.
We have the Jews, Christians, Moslems, and Bahá'ís. If you
thought about what if you went there, what could you do to help that
situation? The conflict is so bad, what does one do to help in
a situation like that?
I cannot help anyone but those who are my disciples and those
disciples who will listen to me. You cannot help a person or
people who do not want to listen. If you read the Old
Testament, you will see that many times God came to humans and
told them to follow His Words. They did not do it, and they
Really, I can help the Middle East.
Actually, the way is given for the Middle East on how to bring the
peace and unity, but we have to bring the awareness to the people in
the Middle East of this new Revelation and bring them to the
realization that there is only one God, that all of humanity are His
children, and that they have to share and get along.
The Jews have to get along with the
Palestinians. The Palestinians have to get along with the
Jews. They have to create one humanity and live together
There are differences between cultures. They should be
respected and accepted and at the same time, more mixed together and
eventually come to a more balanced culture (God's Culture) for
everyone so that the differences that exist now would not be that
It is happening, and it will happen. So, it is a slow
process of education. It is a slow process of bringing this
Revelation to everyone and also to the people in the
That is why we need the spiritual
teachers in the Mission.
We need the Missionaries. We need the people who come and
become the teachers and go to those places.
We just had one teacher go to Florida.
He met two new people who received the Revelation and know about the
Eternal Divine Path. So, our job is to give this
Revelation to every Soul on earth and to every human on earth.
It is in the website. Anytime
anyone goes to the website and reads the Eternal Divine Path,
we are done with them. But there are people who not only read
the Eternal Divine Path
but also they become attracted to it, and they say, “Yes, that makes
sense. I want to do something about it.” They come to
our Satsangs and tell me, “Maitreya, I am interested to
Then I say, “OK. What are your
qualifications? What kind of talents do you have?” Then
we have to use those talents to further this Revelation to more of
humanity and more people on earth.
God has given us the ability to spread
this Message even in a greater degree than ever God provided for any
Revelation. So, we have to reach a point that we can teach
Jews where they stand in God, where they are in the Plan of God.
We have to teach Moslems where they fall in the Plan of God.
We have to teach Christians where they fall in God’s Plan, etc.
At the end, just like our Temple,
everyone can enter the Temple from their own religion, but when they
come to the center, where are they? They are in the Eternal
Divine Path. There is only one religion for the whole of
humanity and that is the Eternal Divine Path.
That is why I am so insistent to attract
the people who want to come, join, dedicate their lives, and reach
out to humanity. That is why I am insistent to see that a lot
of teachers are created. I am insistent to create the system
that eventually we can create the Paravipras who can change the
society from the top of the hierarchy, and all of that.
But, should I go to the Middle East and
yell at the Jews and Moslems that they should come together?
Do you think it is going to work?
I do not think so.
[laughing] Exactly. What did they do? Didn’t
Christ do that? He went and tried to purify their religion and
throw the moneychangers out of the temple. What did they do to
him? They crucified him. Then they changed his teaching
to whatever they wanted, and eventually Paul came, took over, and
said a lot of things that were not what Christ taught.
Even the people who are in our
Mission, they are wonderful people, they are great people, they
are great Souls, but still they sometimes misunderstand my
teachings, and they say something that is not completely what I
That is why, even the teachers in the
usually send me their answers to the questions. Sometimes they
realize that I correct them and they say, “Oh, yes. I did not
see that before.”
They are the counselors. They are
wonderful beings. They are people who love the
They know the teaching. They want to reach out. They
want to teach in the most purified way but still sometimes they do
not see it exactly as it should be.
I used to be here every week, and I gave
answers to questions. And why do I come every month to give
answers to questions? Hopefully, eventually, in this process,
and our teachings are understood and purified, the way they should
be, and reach humanity the same. We have probably around 200
CDs now that have all the Satsangs from the last twenty years, at
least the last four years that we have been video-taping them.
So, the answer to how we can help the
Middle East is that we need more teachers. We need more
outreach. We need more
Communities of Light.
We have to create the Communities of
Light. We have to implement the Eternal Divine Path
in these communities. We have to create many of them so
eventually the Word reaches to the Middle East.
A lot of Jewish people will become
interested in the Eternal Divine Path. And then they
will no longer be Jews, will they? Many Moslems will become
interested in the Eternal Divine Path. Then they will
no longer be Moslems. They will be the friends of the Jews who
are in the Eternal Divine Path. There will be a lot of
Christians who will come to the Eternal Divine Path.
They will no longer be Christians. Who will they be?
They will be Divines. Then they will not be against the
Moslems, Jews, or anyone else.
The whole question is bringing all of
them into the center of the Temple, where they are one in that
center. That is why you can keep your religion, you can stay
Christian, but after you came to the Mission
for a while and you learn the Eternal Divine Path, are you a
Christian anymore? If you really realize and believe that God
sent all these religions, you can say, “I am not a Moslem.
Yes, I was born in the Middle East but am I a Moslem anymore?
No, I am a Divine. I am in the
Eternal Divine Path.”
Keyosha has a Jewish background. I
have a Moslem background. Are we at each other’s throat?
No. We help each other, we live in the same household.
Is she a Jew anymore? I do not think so. She is a
So, we can see that, that is how we can
help Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Moslems, Bahá'ís, etc.
They can come to the center of the Temple and become one. But
they have to realize that this is the fulfillment of the prophecies
that God has given to them. They have to realize that it is
God’s Revelation. They have to be taught, and they should be
brought to this realization that this is the last Revelation that
they have to listen to.
That is why it is so important that all
the things in the Mission be accepted as a package, when you
see that you no longer can say, “I can stay in my religion,” because
your religion was a previous revelation. Its dispensation is
But it will not be with the sword, not
with the destructive ways, but with education, with understanding,
with teaching by example. If we can create a lot of
Communities of Light
and Jews, Moslems, Hindus, and Buddhists can live in them together
peacefully, would the world see that? You see? The world
would say, “Oh, they are living peacefully and in harmony!”
So, it is possible to bring peace.
It is possible to have co-existence. It is possible to share.
Why can’t the Moslems and Jews share?
It is just a land. Just forget about who is a Moslem and who
is a Jew. It is like saying who is a better person and who is
not. Just live together and share!
I know it is easier said than done but
that is what God said He is going to do, He is going to bring His
Kingdom on earth. That is a promise that His Kingdom will
come. But how is His Kingdom going to come? It will come
with the Eternal Divine Path, with the creation of the
Communities of Light, with education, and with the realization
that every religion in the past is a part of a greater Revelation,
which is the Mission
as presented to humanity.
So, the Middle East, although there is
such a terrible thing happening there, if you cannot help the
situation right now, you have to think for the long run. That
situation is not going to be resolved until we bring the
Communities of Light into those areas, until we convert at least
10–15% of those people to the Eternal Divine Path.
So, the answer to your question of how
we can help them is that we cannot. Right now, we cannot help
them because they will not listen to us. What we can do is to
reach out to humanity, to create more teachers, to create
Communities of Light, and hopefully, eventually, someday we can
help them too (they will listen).
I heard on the radio one time about a group of Jewish people who
were inviting Moslems to their schools so that the Jewish children
and the Moslem children could learn about each other and get along.
So, they realize that that is the way to solve the problem by
integrating, understanding each other’s culture, and getting
together. So it is not just us who feel this way. There
are many other people too.
That is true. Actually, since the
has come to the earth, at least some are trying to unify with one
another. Their attempts to be nice to one another, to accept
each other’s cultures, and all of that, have even reached to a
higher level. They are trying.
Actually, what happened was that one of
the Palestinians who was close to this young Jewish person was
killed. All these Jewish teenagers were very sorry because
they knew him, and they knew he was a very good person. So, it
created a situation that even they were sympathizing with what
But still, when they go to each other,
that group is Moslem and this group is Jewish. And it is never
going to overcome that bridge between them.
I had a good Jewish person who was my
friend when I was in Iran. There are some Jewish people who live in
Iran. There are not a lot but there are some communities, and
they are pretty integrated into the society. We were very good
friends. Then he went to Israel. The next time he came
back, we could not connect anymore. He was completely
different. He was changed, even though we had been together,
we had grown up together, we had gone to school together, and all of
So there is a lot of propaganda.
There is brainwashing happening in both groups. You know what
happens, the hero of one society becomes the terrorist of the other
one. They create heroes, and they put the other society down.
No matter how much they try, the whole
society should change their attitude. The whole society has to
realize that we are all humans, we have the same problems, we have
the same things to work on, and we have to realize that there is One
Earth, One Humanity, and One God.
If they realize that, then there is no
Jew, or Hindu, or Buddhist but all are here to become Divine.
That is the goal of their lives. There is no one higher or
lower. God loves everyone. How can God not love everyone
because everyone is a part of God, His Creation?
Can you not like your finger but like
your leg? No. It does not work. It is a part of
your body. If your finger hurts, it does not matter, it is the
same as if your toe hurts. It still hurts. It is the
same body. It is a part of God.
So, humanity has to realize all these
things. If they realize that, accept the Mission, and become Divines,
then do we have Jews, Christians, Moslems, Hindus, or Buddhists?
No. All of us are humans here struggling to become Divine with
the resources we have. We have to share with each other and
even reach to space and find even more resources. Then the
standard of living of everyone will come to a point that we do not
need to be at each other’s throats. As Gandhi said, “There is
not enough for everyone’s greed, but for everyone’s need.”
So again sharing, Communities of
Light, creation of the Communities of Light, and the
Eternal Divine Path, the unification of the religions, teaching
humanity, reaching out, creating Missionaries, educating humanity
that they are not Moslems, Hindus, Buddhists, God is not man or
woman, God is both…
The wordings and political things that
are created on earth separate, like, “No, God is man,” or, “No, God
is woman.” So, the men and women try to separate each other.
God is both of them and is neither of them. God is beyond the
political movement or trying to create separation.
All of this separation has been created
by humans. You can say that some separation was created
because there were different religions on earth, and God sent these
religions to each group or people. But that is no longer.
With understanding the
you no longer can be a Moslem.
Probably I know more about the Koran
and Islam than most of the Moslems know. Or, you cannot be a
Jew anymore. Probably Keyosha knows more about Judaism in the
than any Jew ever could know.
Or, a Christian, you who are here and
were Christians, you know the reason for Christ coming here, for the
number of three. Do the Christians know all those things, what
was really the reason Christ came, that his mission was three-fold
and he accomplished all of them? So, you see, you know more
about Christianity than most of the Christians.
So we can see that coming to the
Mission, realizing these things, studying them, becoming more
familiar with all the religions of the world and seeing how the
Mission gives you even more than any of the people in those
groups, makes you realize, “I already know more than any one else on
earth.” Then you can teach other people and make them realize
what God has done.
He sent all those religions separately,
and each of them has a message. When you put all those
messages together, you see the Eternal Divine Path.
So, this is really the salvation for the
Middle East. It is not only the salvation for the Middle East,
it is the salvation for the Irish and English. Are there
Catholics or Protestants? There are neither. In the
Eternal Divine Path, they are Divines.
If they become Divines, are they going
to stay Protestants and Catholics? No. They cannot stay
any longer with that separation. You can see that the way is
given to bring peace and the Kingdom on earth.
But who is going to do it? I am
giving it to you so you can give it to someone else. If I can
tell twelve or fifteen people, and those twelve or fifteen people
tell twelve or fifteen people, and those twelve or fifteen people
reach twelve or fifteen people, it only takes seven levels to reach
the whole of humanity. It does not take that long.
It is just like the pyramid marketing
schemes that some people use. It is the same thing. It
is not a hard work to reach the whole humanity. It is very
If we have one hundred people in the
Mission, if I can reach one hundred people deeply, that they
really realize what the teaching is and what this Revelation is, and
each of those one hundred people reach one hundred people, how many
is that? That is ten thousand. And those ten thousand
people each reach a hundred people, that is going to be around a
million. And those million each reach a hundred people, that
is one hundred million. A hundred million then reach a hundred
people, and that is going to be ten billion.
Oh, we reached to the whole of humanity.
That is it! We are not even ten billion, we are only around
six or seven billion.
So you see, it is not hard to do.
But you who are called for it have to purify yourselves. You
are still stuck in the little things in life. You are stuck in
things that you think that I should solve them for you.
As I said, I cannot help anyone unless
they are my disciples and they are humble enough to listen to what I
teach them. Otherwise, even I cannot help my disciples if they
are not humble enough to listen.
God cannot help you if you do not want
to listen. That is why we meditate. We meditate to
listen to God.
If we are meditating and thinking about
what I ate last night, we are not listening to God, are we? If
we are closing our eyes, “Oh, I was going to tell my people or
family they are not listening to God.”
That brings me to the topic of the
parents. The parents are responsible to teach these things
that I teach you to your children. Children really are a
captive audience. Parents have a lot of influence and power
over them to teach these things while they are growing up. Of
course, we have to follow it first ourselves before we can teach
You cannot teach someone if you do not
follow what you teach. You become a teacher without following
your own teaching. If you teach and do not follow, of course,
they are not going to listen to you and will not follow what you
say. They say, “Well, what is he saying? He is saying
something and doing something else.” It is not going to work.
You have to do it and teach it. Then your children are going
God gave those children to you. He
did not give them to me. I have my own child to take care of.
He gave them to you, you are the one God designated to take care of
your child. So, you have to tell them about the teaching of
God’s way. You are responsible.
Do not bring it and drop it in my lap.
They are not my children. They are your children. I
already gave you what is the truth about them. I already told
you what is right and wrong.
You are in this
I gave you what is right and wrong. You tell them what is
right and wrong, follow it yourself, and stay firm. Say, “That
is the way it should be. If it is not the way it should be,
then I cannot be your parent. I am not going to be as nice as
I was or I am.”
So we can see that this is the first
level that this Revelation came through. You are the second
level. My responsibility was to give this to you. Your
responsibility is to give it to whomever you can, to whatever
ability or outlet you can reach.
I connect you to God. You have to
bring them and connect them to the Mission
and God also. So, you can see that coming to the Satsang is
just not hearing and feeling good and having a good week or a good
month. It brings a great responsibility to you also.
Do you want to solve the problem in the
Middle East? Talk to more people, reach to them, and convert
them to become Divines. The more Divines we have, the less
Christians, Moslems, Hindus, and Buddhists we will have.
I cannot help the Middle East right now.
The way is given to them. If tomorrow Arafat and Sharon come
to me and become Divine, I can solve the problem. If they
become my disciples tomorrow, the problem in the Middle East is
resolved because I can tell them about the Eternal Divine Path
and unify them.
But if I go right now and want to tell
them what to do, would they listen to me? They would not.
So, we can see the subjective approach with objective adjustment.
That is a part of the
Subjective approach means we are
approaching toward bringing the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth.
Objective adjustment means that we have to adjust ourselves to where
Another thing you can do is arm yourself
and force people to accept the Eternal Divine Path. It
is just like the Moslems. Moslems for a while had the sword.
They put the sword to your head and demanded, “Either you become a
Moslem or your head is going to be chopped off.”
Do all the Moslems know the Koran
and what Prophet Muhammad taught and God sent to them? I was
born in a Moslem country. Actually, I rejected God when I was
a child because I was asking them, “Show me. Show me God and I
will believe you.” But an angry God sitting up there somewhere
and always with His sword at the top of my head, I just could not
even envision that such a God existed.
Of course, now I know that God is
everywhere, everything. He is not up there sitting somewhere
away from us.
Islam is different than Moslems.
Judaism is different than Jews. Christianity is different than
So we can see that, that did not work
either, with the sword on top of their heads. What will work?
Education, realization, reaching this teaching in a deeper level to
everyone to realize what is the goal of the life, what is the
Eternal Divine Path, and how the religions are unified.
There is a God. A lot of people,
99% even of the people who say they are religious, do not really
believe that God exists, or at least have an experience with Him.
But if God said He is going to send
these religions, if He said He is going to send all these teachers,
if He said He is going to fulfill all these prophecies, and He did
it, does He exist? Therefore, God truly does exist. That
is a Consciousness, and He is everywhere and everything, and there
is nothing that is not Him.
But we need people who have been called.
That is why we are looking for the Elects. They are the people
who have been selected, elected, and called for to come and help
to spread, and eventually spread it to
the Middle East.
That is how I am helping the Middle
East, with bringing this teaching to humanity. That is how we
are helping Africa. That is how we are helping South America.
That is how we are helping Europe, the United States, everywhere.
But people have to be taught, to be reached, to realize.
We have to build the Temple. If we
build the Temple and people in the Middle East and other people hear
about it, and realize it, they will become One. Just even for
the tourists, as the tourists come and see such a wonderful place it
is, they can go through their own door of religion and in the middle
they are all One, what do you think that is going to bring to them?
It is going to bring One humanity, One God, One earth. That is
how we are helping humanity.
But this thing has to be done.
Go ahead, Tahirah.
Thank you. The question is on logic and compassion. Can
logic overcome compassion, or compassion overcome logic? How
can we relate to both of them working together?
For us to first define them, is probably the best way. What is
compassion? What does that mean, compassion? Can any one
I think compassion would be God guiding His whole universe to the
highest good for everything in it.
What is the difference between compassion and love? Have you
ever heard anyone say, unconditional compassion [laughter]?
Have you heard the term, unconditional love? So, what is the
difference? Why can love be unconditional but compassion
cannot? Have you ever heard about tough love? So there
is unconditional love, there is love, and there is tough love?
What is the difference between them? Is unconditional love,
tough love? Well, let us explain.
Maitreya would tough love be love without attachment?
What does that mean, compassionate love? You either have
compassion or you have love. Can you have compassionate love?
See, there is a great difference between
compassion and love, and a lot of people make a mistake between
You fall in love but you do not fall in
compassion, do you? Have you ever seen someone say, “I just
fell in compassion.” Or, these two people fell in compassion
with each other? You do not hear that.
So it is completely two different
things: love and compassion. Love can be conditional.
I love you if you do this for me. Love can be unconditional.
Usually parents have a kind of unconditional love for their
children. A lot of people talk about having unconditional love
for one another. But usually there are conditions involved.
And there is compassion. You might
have compassion for a starving child in Africa but you are not in
love with them. So, compassion really means, especially when
it relates to the compassion of God, a corrective feeling for
So actually what Keyosha said is pretty
close to what compassionate means. It means that God has
compassion for humanity.
Of course, God also loves humanity.
But His love does not mean that He is not going to correct you.
His love does not mean that you can do whatever you want to, with no
As I said, I still love you. I
still love you, but I have tough love for you. You have to
progress. You have to see yourself squarely. That is
what the compassion of God is, because He knows that if you do that
you are going to be free. You are going to be more Godly by
seeing yourself. Know thyself to know God. That is what
God wants you to do.
Now if He says, “I love you so much that
if you do not even see yourself, if you do not progress, still I am
going to love you,” God does not have compassion for you then
because He is not correcting you. He is not guiding you.
Why does He have to send the Prophets if
He has unconditional love? “You can do whatever you want
humanity, I still love you unconditionally. I am not going to
send the Scriptures. I am not going to send the Prophets.
I am not going to try to guide you. Do whatever you want and I
am still going to love you.”
No. He does not. What does
He do? He does destruction sometimes. He has to destroy
some part of the universe in order to create a new one. “Oh, I
have unconditional love. I cannot destroy this part of the
“I love my body unconditionally. I
have some tumors all over my body. I love my body so much that
I am not going to cut those tumors out because my love is
unconditional.” Or, “I love my body but I am going to have
tough love toward my body. In order to cure it I have to get
those tumors out.”
“I have a compassionate feeling for that
poor child that is starving in Africa. What am I going to do
about it? I am going to try first to feed him or her.”
OK, so that becomes the goal of my life, and I become a missionary
or a social worker, or I dedicate myself to some kind of cause and
go there and feed that child or the children there.
I feed them as much as I can. They
have food for a couple of days or a month or two months or three
months. I leave or the resources dry out, and the children go
back to starvation again. Or, I put my effort into the
creation of the Communities of Light and create the Kingdom
of Heaven On Earth, distribute the resources in a more equal way,
even reach to space and bring more resources to the earth and then I
can help millions of billions of children that will not be starving.
Right now, it seems so cruel not to
reach to that child. I am not saying do not reach to him,
probably a lot of people do. But what is the greater purpose
to do in the long run? Which one is more compassionate?
I have compassion. I feed the
child, and he becomes a criminal. I have compassion, but would
I go ahead and start correcting him not to become a criminal,
teaching him to stay a good person, helpful to the society? I
have compassion for him and I will correct him if he starts going
wrong. So, look at your definition of God’s love, which is
If you call God, “God loves me so I do
not have to look at myself.” “God loves me, therefore, I do
not see the tumors in my body. God is going to heal me.
I am not going to go to the doctor and tell him to take out those
tumors. God is going to take care of those tumors.”
It is just like that man. The
flood came and he went to the top of his house.
A boat came, and the boatman told him,
“Let me help you.”
He said, “No. Do not worry.
I trust in God. He is going to take care of me.”
Later a helicopter came and the pilot
said, “Come in. We are here for you.”
And he said, “No. No. That
is OK. I trust in God.”
Well, the water raised, and he
eventually was drowned and went to heaven or to whatever and asked
God, “Why didn’t you help me?”
God said, “Didn’t you see the boat
and the helicopter?”
That is the logic of God. The
compassion was sending the boat, sending the helicopter. The
logic was to see God’s help coming to you.
If you are sitting there and saying,
“Well, God loves me, He is going to take care of me. But I
have all these problems and these tumors and all these things in my
life and my body, and I am not going to look at them because I trust
in God,” then you do not know the compassion of God.
Maybe Maitreya was sent by God to
tell you, “Hey, there is a tumor in your life. Look at it.
Take it to the doctor. Take it out.”
But you just hold onto it and say, “No.
I am not going to look at my tumor because God is compassionate, and
compassion means that I can do whatever I want to. I do not
progress. I drop my problem in someone else’s lap. I am
not going to look at them because I am attached to the world,
because I have so many desires and attachments and I follow a
philosophy that fits my situation. Therefore it is OK the way
I am and I am not going to look at the problems.”
Then, of course, your definition of
compassion, love, and all that is going to be different than my
definition of love and compassion.
Therefore, we have to come to the same
conclusion. Unless you do not believe in the definition of
love and compassion that I just gave, and you believe the definition
Some people are never going to look at
themselves squarely. Actually, it is a very, very scary thing
if you really look at yourself squarely.
Some people who are 75 years old are
still chasing the dreams of the 16-year-old people because they
never knew themselves to bring their lives in a Godly way.
So, compassion means corrective love.
Compassion means a feeling of being really sorry. Compassion
only comes when someone else is in trouble, doesn’t it?
You cannot have compassion for a person
who does not need any help. Again, you might love someone who
does not need any help. But how can you have compassion for a
person who does not need anything? Can you have compassion for
someone like that?
Can you have compassion for someone in
Pure Consciousness? “I have such compassion for a person who
has reached Pure Consciousness.” Can you have compassion for
that person? You have to be happy for that person that he or
she is in Pure Consciousness. You cannot have compassion for
You can love a person who is in Pure
Consciousness but you do not have compassion for them because they
are not in trouble. Compassion really is when we create a
feeling for someone who is in trouble. “Why is that person in
trouble? How can we help them?”
We have compassion for them because they
have some problem to be dissolved. Can we solve those problems
for them? Yes. If it is food, we can bring them food.
But if you can teach them how to grow food and have their food, that
is even better, isn’t it?
We have compassion for a person who has
problems in their life. Can we help them? How can we
help them best? It is by pointing out to them where the
problems are so that they can resolve the problems in their lives.
But if they do not want to listen to
you, can you help them? You cannot help anyone who does not
want to listen.
That is the Law. That is the Law in the universe.
As I said, I cannot help anyone but
those who are my disciples and are willing to listen. Period.
Even if you are a disciple and you are not willing to listen, I
cannot help you. But if you are not a disciple and you are
willing to listen, I can help you.
I have compassion for you. I would
love to help you. I feel your pain. I feel your
struggle. I feel your tumor. But if you do not let me
get it out, if you do not go to the doctor, if you do not let him
get the knife and cut you up and get that tumor out, you are not
going to be healed.
You say, “Oh, I am going to keep my
tumor in my body, but doctor heal me.” He says, “I cannot.
You do not let me take out the tumor. How can I help you?”
It is the same thing. If you do
not let me, do not even listen to what I tell you, you resist it,
you fight it, you juggle it, you politicalize it, trying to play
games with it, go around it, doing whatever the human does not to
see themselves, I cannot help you.
I have compassion for you. I can
see your pain. I am very sorry for the pain you are going
through. But let me cut you open. Let me get my knife
and open you up so I can take that tumor out. If you do not
let me, sorry, the doctor is helpless.
You have to let God come through.
You have to listen to Him.
Compassion means I would like to help
you. That is what it really means, doesn’t it? I have
compassion for that child who is starving because I really want to
help him. But if you go and he says, “No. I am not going
to accept your help,” can you help him? You cannot.
So, the first thing is accepting and a
willingness and wanting to be helped. Otherwise, God cannot
help you. God loves you. God has compassion for you but
He has sent the Scriptures. He has sent the Prophets. He
has sent the way for your happiness. He has taught you to
meditate, to know thyself.
Get rid of the tumor. Look at
yourself squarely. There are a lot of creatures in every
human. There are psychological things in the subconscious mind
that make us unhappy. We have to look at them. We have
to see how we react in every situation and how we create the
situations that bring us all to the same place again and again.
If you do not want to do it, no one else
can do it for you. God can give you the guidance and show the
way, but you are the one to walk it.
All right everyone. It was nice being with you. Have a
wonderful, Godly month. Hopefully again these words will
become the bread of life for you and keep you. And may God
come through all of us to humanity.