This is our Cyber Church and room. We will be discussing the Mission
and the Revelation of the unification of all the religions that God
has sent to humanity. He has already fulfilled all the
promises and all the Revelations that He has given to humanity to
this point. This is the end time.
This is the time of
unification and bringing the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth. As He
has promised, He will unify all religions together and send to every
human the new Revelation that explains the teachings and what God
has been doing for the last 12,000 years.
Our teaching explains the
creation and history. Creation started with the imbalance in
the universe, or God consciousness. After this imbalance,
there was chaos in the universe that God wanted to bring back to the
harmony, unity, and oneness, in God’s consciousness.
That is when He sent His
Spirit to the world. The Spirit went through the Eternal
Divine Path that we will explain, and he came back to God.
That is when God said, “And there was light.”
So, God saw that the
light was good, that the Eternal Divine Path leads to oneness
with God and return to the Consciousness, the unity, the harmony,
and a state of be-ness. That Path became the Path that every
being has to go through to return to God. That Path has been
known to the first beings that God created.
Of course, in the state
of darkness that the universe was in, it was very hard to help the
unit consciousnesses reach Pure Consciousness, or return to God.
That is why He created the creation.
The creation started with
the material world, the five elements in the universe: ether,
air, fire, liquid factor, and earth (or solid factor). So, the
whole universe has five elements of the solid factor, liquid, fire,
air, and ether. Everything has been created from these
elements. And, God created everything from His own Body.
God cannot go to the
convenience store at the end of the road and say, “I am going to buy
these things and create something.” So, He had to use the material
He had, which was His Body and create the universe. That is
why God is everything.
You cannot separate any
part of God from another part. If you say this part is good
and this part is not good, then you are separating God, which is
everything, and you are creating a delusion of separation.
If you are in the
delusion of separation, then you create different religions,
different dogmas, different ways to separate man from man, human
from human, and the universe from the universe. But if you see
that God is everything, then you realize that, “How can I be
different from another person?” or, “How can this religion separate
itself from another religions?” or, “How can these people separate
themselves from other people?” That is because you can see
that God is everything. Those delusions of separation will be
shattered completely, and you will see that you are a part of the
Therefore, God created
the universe, and eventually He created man. Man was in the
image of God. He was male and female. He had the
consciousness, and he had the ability to return to Godhead and
become one, or reach Pure Consciousness.
Of course, there were
many steps in the evolutionary process that happened. We know
that man fell. God told him, “If you do this thing, this
thing, and this thing, you will be happy and you will reach Pure
Consciousness. If you do not do them, you will become
self-centered, selfish, your ego comes in, and you will fall.”
As explained in the book
Genesis, they fell. They did not follow God’s Laws.
They did not follow what God told them not to do. That is
symbolized by the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
And, that is when man
says, “I know what is good for me, I know better than God what is
good and what is evil,” instead of listening to His Words and
Scriptures and saying, “OK, God created me and who knows better than
It is just like a
mechanic or a designer of a car. The designer knows exactly
what is in the engine, what will hurt the engine, what will help the
engine, etc. That is why they recommend that you change your
oil once in awhile. Then you say, “No, no, I am not going to
do it. I know better than the mechanic how the engine works.”
And, you might ruin your engine.
That is exactly what God
did. God sent the Laws to humanity and said, “If you follow
these things, you are going to be happy, and you will reach higher
consciousness and Pure Consciousness. If you do not, of
course, you will suffer.”
This evolutionary process
continued until 12,000 years ago, when man became the man that we
know now. We have two eyes. Our third eyes were closed.
What we see is the external world, and we take it as the truth.
But, there is a greater
truth in Spirit that the two eyes cannot see. That is why we
recommend that humans start worshipping God in Spirit, worshipping
God in meditation, and realizing that you have to go to God directly
You cannot rely on a
preacher. You cannot rely on the father, or mullah, or lama,
or anything. God has given you the ability to go to Him
directly and recognize Him.
That is what the
Mission of Maitreya does. It directs you to God. I
am not here to be worshipped. I am not here that you bow down
in front of me and worship me. If you do that, then I become
an obstacle in your way to God.
If you worship your
Prophet, if you worship your Messiah, if you worship anyone, if you
worship your guru, if you worship anyone else but God, then he or
she is in your way. Go to God directly.
The way to go to Him
directly, of course, is THOTH and our teachings.
The Scripture teaches you how to follow the Eternal Divine Path
and when you follow the Eternal Divine Path, you will reach
Of course, 12,000 years
ago, after the new man was created, God gave the first Prophet, who
was Noah, the teaching of the awakening of the spiritual forces,
which is the Mystical Paths, which eventually branched into
Hinduism, Buddhism, the Cabala, Mystical Christianity, the Sufis,
and many other Mystical Paths that are all over the world. The
base of their teaching is, “Be still and know that I am God.”
Know thyself to know God.
It means to meditate, to
realize who you are, your weaknesses, your strengths, your
prejudices, your fears, your attachments, and your belief in a
religion instead of the truth. All those things are to awaken
your spiritual forces and for you to realize that you cannot believe
in anything anyone says or teaches, but you must search, knock, and
find the truth. If you really search, if you really ask
questions of what God meant to create this creation, the door will
be opened to you, and it will be revealed to you.
And, now, with the
Revelation of the Holiest Of The Holies, this
possibility even in a greater degree is available to humanity.
That is because only now the mystery of God has finished. And,
by you understanding our teachings, you will understand your
religion even in a greater degree, and you will realize where your
beliefs fall in the Plan of God.
Then, of course, you open
yourself to other religions, expand yourself, and realize that you
cannot separate yourself from anyone else, or anyone from anyone
else because God is everything, and even all the religions have been
sent to humanity by God.
So the first step in the
Eternal Divine Path is to awaken your spiritual forces:
meditating, understanding yourself, be still and know that God is
within you, etc. As Christ said, “There is going to be a time
that you will worship God in Spirit, not in Jerusalem, not in a
mosque, not in a church, or a Synagogue, but in the Spirit which is
within yourself. You have to go within yourself and see the
Spirit, which is God, which is one with Him.”
Therefore, that is the first step.
And, some religions say that is the last step, “You just meditate
and reach Pure Consciousness, or you become one with God, or you
reach Nirvana, and that is it. So, you do not have to worry
about anyone else but yourself.”
However, in the Bible
God clearly says that this is not true. And if you do that, as
it says in
Revelation chapter 3, “He will spue you out of His mouth.”
It means that you will be sent here again and again until you learn
the Eternal Divine Path.
The second step in the
Eternal Divine Path is the creation of the Communities of
Light. Therefore, you meditate, you try to understand
yourself, to mystically progress. But, that is not the end of
it. You then have to direct that energy to spread this Message
to every human.
That is why we say that
every human should listen, or hear this Message, at least once.
And, that is why I repeat it every time in my Satsangs on Saturdays
because there are new people who should hear it.
Then you try to create
Communities of Light.
Communities of Light are based on the six couples in the
community. This becomes twelve. Twelve of such units
become the second level. And, twelve of the twelve of the
twelve of these, around 2,000 people, become one Community of
Light. Communities of Light are made up of the
people who come together to follow the Eternal Divine Path.
If you study the Old
Testament in the Bible, the whole theme of the Old
is that God wants to choose a people as His people. They will
accept God as their King, and they become the Children of God, or
the Children of Light, or the Israelites. Who the Israelites
are, or the Children of God, or the Elected Ones, we will explain
So, the whole Old
is about God trying to create the twelve tribes of Israel which are
the communities, the Communities of Light. God wanted
to create the
Communities of Light.
Of course, we know that
that was not the end of it because God said that when the Shiloh
comes, the period for the Old Testament and the Children of
Israel was going to finish. The next Prophet who came was
Christ. Christ was prophesied to come, and he came to set up
the third part of the Eternal Divine Path. That was
In order to create the
Communities of Light, you cannot say, “What is in it for me,
what is in it for me?” all the time. If you say that, it is
impossible to create the Communities of Light. That is
why sacrifice is necessary. Sacrifice means not being
self-centered. It means to live in a Community of Light
and put the well being of the community ahead of your own
self-interests. Of course, the community, in return, will help
you to have your physiological and safety needs provided, and help
you to meditate and know thyself, which is the first step.
Then you direct, even in a greater degree, energy toward the
Communities of Light and you sacrifice more.
Sacrifice was the
teaching of Christ. Christ came to set the example of
sacrifice. He went all the way to the cross for his ideal and
did not hesitate. Well, he hesitated a little bit. But,
he did eventually accept God’s Will and went all the way to the
cross. And, that is the symbol that Christ set for humanity.
He also released The Grace.
So, the third step in the
Eternal Divine Path is sacrifice, and that is related to
Christianity and Christ.
Now if you sacrifice for
a long time and nothing occurs, what happens? You become very
depressed, and you say, “Well, I am putting so much effort. I
have been giving Satsang for twenty years, and very few really
understand what I am talking about.” Then you become
If you start putting some
effort on these people, they start progressing, and Communities
of Light start popping up all over the world, then you say,
“Wow, look at me! I am the greatest thing that ever happened
to humanity!” You become a big ego that this is you who is
doing this. That is where the fourth step in the Eternal
Divine Path comes in: surrendering the result of your
action to God.
That means, “I do my
best. I give the Satsang. I give the teaching. I
give this Mission to humanity. The result is God’s.
It is not my Mission. I did not know that I was going
to receive such a wonderful Revelation and bring it to humanity.
I was just like everyone else, living a regular life.
Suddenly, God said, ‘Here, this is the Revelation. Give it to
humanity.’” And, it made so much sense to me. Before
that, nothing made sense as much as this did.
And, that is why I love
Mission because it makes so much sense. If you have the
smallest light in you, you will see great things in the Mission.
Therefore, the fourth
step is to surrender the result to God. It is to say, “I did
all these things. If the result is not good, probably, I am
not doing something right. I will examine myself, and I will
try to do better.” If it is not happening, then I say, “God,
thank you. The result is Yours, I am not attached to it.”
So, I will go ahead and continue with the Mission.
Later on, he realized
that even greater than surrendering is submission. That means
you always let God do the actions through you. I am not giving
this Satsang. God is giving the Satsang. I am just a
vessel here letting Him come through. Therefore, if I am not
doing anything, how can I be attached to the result of my action?
So, I am free.
That is, of course,
absolutely related to Islam. Islam comes from the word “tasleim,”
which means to be surrendered and submissive to God. So, with
this you completely eliminate any depression or any feeling of
superiority. God is doing everything through you. You
are free. You are doing your best, and then leave the result
to God or let God come through.
If God comes through you
completely, you will do a perfect job because God is perfect.
If you say, “I am doing all these things. It is not perfect
but I am letting God come through,” you had better think a little
deeper about how much you are really letting God come through.
God is perfect. If
you let God really, really come through, you will do the perfect
job. If it is not perfect, then back off, meditate, and say,
“I should probably think about this a little more. Maybe I am
not completely letting God come through.” Then, of course,
also examine your actions to see where you are going wrong.
And you will become more and more perfect, because God is perfect.
Therefore, you let God come through you.
You are forgiven for what
you have done before, up to this point. When you come to the
Mission, all your sins are forgiven. From now on you have
to progress. So do not hang up into what bad you did before.
It is OK. You can forget about those and say, “God has
From now on, you will let
God come through, and you will try to become perfect. As
Christ said, “Be perfect as the Father in heaven.” If you let
God come through, you will be perfect.
Of course, if you really,
really let God come through you, the Father and you are One.
God is absolutely coming through and, therefore, that is the highest
spiritual realization because that is the goal, to become one with
Of course, with all these
things you do, still you might be attached to a small part of the
universe, to your culture, to your gender, to the earth even.
The next step is to become a universalist and say, “I belong to the
universe. I am a person, my home is the universe, my father
and mother are God, and everything else in it are my brothers,
sisters, and struggling beings to reach higher consciousness.”
Therefore, with that you
also shatter all the narrowness of the mind, and you become
completely free of any narrowness that might exist in you or in your
life or your mind or your spirit. You become free, you become
a universalist, and you shatter all those things.
So these are the five
steps of the Eternal Divine Path: awakening of your
spiritual forces (the First Seal); creation of the Communities of
Light is to begin to direct any energy or realization you gain
toward the creation of these communities; sacrifice means not to be
self-centered but being community centered; surrendering and
submission to God means to surrender the result to God or even
greater than that to let God come through; and becoming a
universalist. With these five steps, you will shatter all the
pitfalls in the spiritual path. and you will become an Elect.
That is what the Elects
means. That is really what the Children of Israel means.
That is, the Children of Israel means the Children of Light.
The people who follow the five steps become the Children of Light.
They become the Elects, which is the sixth seal. These are the
ones that we are looking for, and they will help humanity to reach
higher consciousness and bring the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth which
is based on the Communities of Light.
That last seal is this
unification, the coming of the Kingdom, and the opening of the
Seventh Seal, which is the Mission of Maitreya. And,
you are here to learn from them.
Please do not preach here
in this room. If you have a question about the Mission,
you are welcome to come and ask your questions. We welcome any
questions about the Mission, about the teaching. Our
website has been posted here many times. Go to the website,
read about it, know about it more, and then if you have a question,
you are welcome to come and ask us.
So, this is our Church
and we appreciate your respect and your understanding that we would
like you to stay on the topic which is the Mission of Maitreya.
Go ahead, Moin.
I have been in this room for only two weeks. Shakti and Ananda
Ma have given me some insight about your Mission, and I have
been to your website.
Now you have started by
saying that you can go to God directly. And, on the other hand
what I see in your Mission is the unification of all the
religions. Thereby you speak about Moslems, Hebrews, Jesus,
Muhammed, and Baha’u’llah. [Sounds like either an echo or two
speaking at once]. What I do not understand, if you are
unifying all the religions, it is mentioned very clearly in the
Koran that Jesus was neither killed, nor crucified, he was
raised to the heavens. It negates what is in the Bible
Bible in the Koran is more the word of God. He
is saying the revelation from Paul, Paul is the self-appointed
disciple of Christ. So how do you explain about this?
If I understand the question, the question is that Christ really was
not crucified. Our speakers have created a background noise so
sometimes we could not hear you well.
The question was not
understood very well here. Could you repeat the question in
the simplest way possible? Are you saying that we are saying
that Christ was not crucified or that the Koran says that
Christ was not crucified?
What I want to ask you is that you preach the unification of all the
religions, but on the other hand you just now mentioned that you can
go to God directly. It means we do not need to follow
Maitreya for the unification of any religions, or what do you
Do I understand the question that you are asking? That,
because I said you can go directly to God, you do not need
unification? I do not see the conflict between the two.
Or do you mean that you
do not need to come to me to be unified? No, you do not need
to come to me to be unified. But I am a coordinator in the
process of unification. Although you do not have to come to me
to be to be unified, but I have the first fruit of this Revelation
and I know the best how it can be implemented and eventually
manifested. Therefore, in the practical part of it, probably,
it needs some coordination and organization.
We have already given
humanity how it can be done and will be done. In that
organization, the head of the organization is called the Eldest.
And, we are going to be having a facilitating body in the beginning
until the whole hierarchy will emerge from the very bottom of the
society, or the people.
Actually, this is the
first time really that the saying, “from the people, by the people,
and for the people,” will be manifested. This organization
will be that. But, until that system is implemented
completely, I probably will direct the facilitating body to create
that hierarchy from the bottom of the society.
So in that sense, I am
needed. But, in the sense of going to God, probably you should
and you should listen to the Satsangs. What I say when I am in
the Spirit is the Word of God. So, you should follow it.
You cannot just go by yourself.
It is just like, you want
to become a doctor in chemistry, but you say, “Oh, I am going to do
it by myself. I am not going to go to kindergarten. I am
not going to go to the first grade and second grade, get my diploma,
go to the university, get my bachelor degree, masters degree, and my
doctorate. I am going to do it by myself.”
You might make it.
You might. But, the possibility of you becoming a doctor of
chemistry by yourself is very slim. That is why God sent these
teachers and this Revelation to humanity, to tell them what is the
guide, what is the way to go there. So by yourself you
probably will become lost somewhere in the Path, but by listening to
THOTH, and by listening to the Revelations that came to you,
you will go there.
However, if THOTH
does not make sense, if I do not make sense, if I say something that
is not based on God’s Revelations and teachings, you should not
accept it. But everything we say here, everything in our
teaching, is based on God’s Words and therefore it is God’s Words
and you should listen.
The Mission is a
package. You cannot just say, “Well, I like the teaching but I
do not like the teacher.” Or, you say, “Oh, I like the teacher
but I do not like the teaching.” Or, “I just like this part of
it, I do not like the other part.” It is the whole package
that comes together, which you have to follow and understand.
I do not want you to
worship me. I do not want you to lose your common sense
because you are so wrapped up in me and start worshipping me.
Just like those gurus that they have in India or the fathers, or
brothers in Christianity, the mullahs in Islam, or rabbis in
Judaism. They have become obstacles in the way of people to go
to God. They are telling people what to do and what is the
truth, and the people take them as the truth, and they do not search
for themselves to find the truth.
Therefore, I do not want
you to worship me, but you have to realize that what I brought is
the truth and it makes sense, and follow them. If you want, of
course, you respect me because God has chosen this vessel to come
through, not respect me as a person, as a body, but the Spirit
behind it, the Spirit that has sent this to you.
So, if you do not respect
God, you cannot understand Him either.
Go ahead, Parrot.
Thank you, Maitreya. I notice that you are using the
word “God.” What do you mean by God? Did you experience
God? And how could the contents of the website
www.maitreya.org help anyone to know God?
The concept of God is the Creator, or the Generator, Operator, and
Destroyer. That is what God is. The concept of God is
the Pure Consciousness, the consciousness that is in everything.
The concept of God is the Consciousness and the three gunas: tama,
raja, and satva, which everything has been created from and has the
Consciousness, which is the Father and the creative force or
Prakrti, which is the Mother. And, that is why God is
Father/Mother God. He is everything. He has created
everything and is the Witness Entity in the universe.
Therefore, He is God because He created it.
But, you and I also can
become in the image of God, but we have not created anything.
Therefore, the concept of God is very vast. It is something
that really the only way you can know It is by direct experience.
People have been trying
to explain God for thousands of years but they have not succeeded
because the concept is beyond the human mind and beyond human words.
It is something that has to be experienced before you can say, “Oh,
that is what they meant by God.”
He is infinite. He
is endless. He is everything. He is everywhere.
So, that is the concept that we refer to. He is unexplainable,
but at the same time explainable because It is everything. So,
that concept is the concept of God.
Go ahead, Parrot.
Thank you, Maitreya. That means that you have not
experienced the Spirit of God, right? So what about all the
religions, you said they failed to explain God. So how can
you, after comparing all the religions, how can you explain God?
Please tell me that.
No, I did not say that I did not experience God. I said, It is
not explainable. Even those who experience God cannot explain
It because He is unexplainable. The only way you can know and
be sure is the direct experience that you have yourself. If
you have not experienced It, you do not know. But if you
experienced It, you cannot come and say, “I can explain It.”
It is unexplainable.
It is a state of consciousness. It is something beyond the
human mind. Mind is a creation, still is a creation. God
just IS. That is why anything you put in front of Him, it
becomes It. He is compassion. He is love. He is
also destruction. If something had to be replaced, He has to
destroy the old one and replace it with the new.
Therefore, as I said,
experiencing God is different than being able to explain it.
Go ahead, Lois.
I was just wondering, do you agree that Jesus is the way, the truth,
and the light, and that no one, no one can come to the Father but
First of all, his name never was Jesus. There is no “j” in
Hebrew. You are saved by his name, which is not utterable in
this external world. Also, every Prophet who comes says the
same thing. You can only go to the Father through me.
And, without me, you will not be able to go to God.
That is what Christ said.
That is what Krishna said. That is what Muhammed said.
That is what every Prophet said. And, that is what we say
here, You cannot not go to God but by understanding our teaching.
What do they mean when
Prophet Muhammed said, “Listen when God says through Muhammed,
Listen to My Prophet. What he says are My Words.” It
means that you cannot come to Me but through what Prophet Muhammed
says. What all of them were really saying is that you have to
understand the message. You have to understand the teaching.
You have to understand Christ and what he taught.
It is not that you go to
Christ by just saying, “Jesus, Jesus,” which is not his name, and
you are going to go there. No. You have to understand
what he taught, what he came for. He came here for a mission,
for a reason. He had a message.
No one can understand any
of the messages of any of the religions that came to humanity until
this point, until they understand our teaching, which unifies them
and explains them. Therefore, no Christian, no Jew, no Hindu,
no Buddhist, no Moslem, none of them have the truth until the
Seventh Angel comes, and everyone who has anyone that they
believe in just has a very small portion of a greater truth which is
The Greatest Sign and the Eternal Divine Path.
The only way you can
understand your religion and other religions is through our
teachings. That is exactly what we are saying here, as was
said before -- you will not understand God unless you understand our
teaching. Even after that, you have to experience God directly
Go ahead. Parrot.
So your Mission is to explain the Unexplainable? That
is what your
No, my Mission is to unify all the religions of the world,
bring the last Revelation from God, open the Seven Seals, open the
book sealed with the Seven Seals, guide humanity to become unified,
and create the Communities of Light, create the Kingdom Of
Heaven On Earth, so you can meditate and experience God directly.
That is the Mission of
Maitreya. That is why we are here.
The only thing we can
show you is the way. You are the person who walks it. If
you do not walk it, you will not reap the benefit. That is why
the Mission of Maitreya is not a dogmatic teaching. It
is a Path. It is not a religion in a sense of a religion,
which teaches you a bunch of dogmas. It is a Path. The
Eternal Divine Path that I just explained at the beginning of
the Satsang, or this teaching, that if you follow the Eternal
Divine Path, then you will reap the benefits. If you do
not, you will not.
The goal is to create an
environment that you can meditate and realize God directly by
Go ahead, InnerMan.
You spoke of Jesus as if he was just a Prophet as other men were
Prophets. I am asking you, directly in relationship to who you
believe Jesus is, I understand you call him Esa, but do you believe
that he is, was God? Do you believe he was the Father in the
flesh? And, if not, could you be a little bit more specific?
Then I have a second
follow-up question in regards to the Seven Seals and who it is that
can open them. I am assuming that you have lead people to
believe that you are the one who has opened the Seven Seals, and I
would like for you a follow-up question in reference to that, in
reference to his identity and your identity. And, I will be
back in a moment to ask that question of who Christ is or Esa as you
It has been explained many times here what was the relationship
between Christ, God, how he was the Son of God, and also the
Messiah. We can see that Christ at one time said, “The Father
and I are one. No one can go to the Father but through me.”
In another place, we can see that someone came and called him, “Good
Rabbi,” and he said, “Why call me good? Only good is God.”
Then you should wonder, what happened?
In one place, he said
that, “The Father and I are one and no one goes to the Father but
through me,” and in another place, he said that he is not even good.
What happened? If he is always God and God is with him, why
was there that separation that God is good that he was not good?
So, we can see that the
explanation is simple. Whenever God’s Spirit was on Christ,
whenever He would come through and Christ was a channel for God, he
and the Father were one. That is when he was adamant that, no
one goes to the Father but through him. It is the same thing
for every Prophet.
Moses usually was a
regular man, walked around, and took care of the business of the
tribe of Israel. But suddenly he came up and yelled at the
Israelites, “Oh Israel, listen to me. You should do that…”
just like God was talking through him and they were one.
It is the same thing with
Prophet Muhammed. Prophet Muhammed came and was a regular
person living a regular life. Suddenly he went to the
mosque and started preaching the Word of God. God came through
and revealed the Koran, which is the Word of God. The
Father and he were one, and no one went to the Father but through
him. He was the Messiah. He was the Son of God. He
was the Spirit of God on earth.
So did Bab and many other
Prophets do the same thing. The problem is that you listen to
Paul and the supplemental books of Acts, etc. The only place
in the Bible
that is accepted in the Mission of Maitreya is the red words
of Christ himself in the four gospels.
We do not believe Paul
was the mouthpiece of Christ. I am not saying he did not have
some truth. He had some truth, but he was not the mouthpiece
Also, Christ himself said
that the disciples are never greater than the Master. Why do
the majority of the Christians follow mostly Paul instead of
following the words of Christ himself? Christ himself said
that the Master is greater than any disciple. So, you are not
following the Master himself but the people who were disciples.
So there are a lot of
things that you have to realize and understand about our teaching,
and then you will have greater understanding of what we are talking
Again as other people
directed you, InnerMan, go to the Mission website, read our
teachings, understand what we are talking about, and then come here
and we can discuss these things. Otherwise, you are going to
throw at us your Christian dogmas, which we already know about.
We know about
Christianity. We know about Islam. We know about
Hinduism. We know about Buddhism. We know about Judaism.
We know about the Baha’i Faith. We know all your religions.
We know your dogmas. We know your philosophy. We know
It is up to you, and now
it is the time for you to realize the last Revelation of God, and
understand what our teaching is. Then, if you want to discuss
it with us, great, come here and let us discuss it.
Go ahead, Lois.
I just wanted to say that in Hebrew they call Jesus, “Yahsuah” as
there is no J in Hebrew.
Anyway, I just wanted to
ask you, first, are you unifying all the religions of the world, and
if so, did you know that in the Bible it predicts that there
will be a son of perdition or anti-Christ who will unite all the
religions of the world?
OK, can you tell us where in the Bible it says this?
You studied the Bible. You said you studied every
religion. Don’t you know where that is?
No, I don’t. I’m asking you.
It is in there. I can’t tell you exactly where. But it
is in there.
Well, that is why I am asking you, because I know the Bible,
and there is not such a thing in the Bible, OK?
Actually the Bible says that the
Elects will come and they will bring the Kingdom of God on earth.
What does that mean? Does it mean that they are not going to
unify everyone to bring the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth? It
means that they will unify humanity under One God, One Humanity, and
All right. That is again your
dogma. Your preacher told you that. You do not even know
where it is. Then you just repeat, like a parrot, that this is
what the “son of perdition” is going to do. It is not going to
be like that.
The anti-Christ has been on earth all
along. That is the Maya. That is the attraction to this
external world and these intellectualized religions that you all
believe in, which are all wrong and will never take you to God.
Now the Path has come to you to take
you to God. It is just like what they did to Christ, Muhammed,
and everyone else who brought the truth to them. They attacked
them. They stoned them. They killed them. Then
they changed their teaching to whatever they wanted to.
That is why God created this Internet,
so I can say these things. You have no choice but to listen or
There is no such thing in the Bible.
Actually, the Bible predicts that God will unify humanity,
God will bring the truth to man, and He will bring His Kingdom on
earth. And bringing the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth, the Path,
and the way, is given. Our Mission is the way.
There is no other way.
And we are not anti-Christ.
Anti-Christ is Maya, is the attraction of the external world.
It is the wrong teachings and dogmas that many people follow.
Go ahead, Parrot.
Parrot: Thank you,
Maitreya. Let me repeat my previous question. You
are saying that God is Unexplainable and I am a person who is
explainable. If you know the Unexplainable, you also become
automatically unexplainable. So, if the Mission is the
unexplainable, the unexplainable thing is explaining about the
unexplainable thing. It is completely wrong.
What else is your Mission?
Maitreya: I did not say
the Mission is unexplainable. I just told you that the
Mission’s mission is to help you to realize the
Unexplainable. That is why there is an Eternal Divine Path,
which shatters all the narrowness of the mind and frees you from the
attachment of your work, which is really the Karma Yoga, which is
you doing the job and leaving the result to God. Also it
teaches you to sacrifice, not to be self-centered, not to be
egoistical, and to create the Communities of Light, which are
the base for the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth. It is these
Communities which will create an environment that teaches you from
the very childhood to meditate, awaken your spiritual forces,
realize God, realize creation, and eventually become connected to
That is where the goal is.
Actually, the goal is to realize God with direct experience.
So, when you have that, then I do not have to explain it to you.
I did not say that the goal of the Mission is to explain God.
I never said that, did I? Did I say that the goal of the
is to explain God? No. We do not explain God.
We try to. We try to explain Him
as much as we could, but it is impossible to explain the
Unexplainable with the words. That is why the Mission
shows the Path to that realization, the creation of the
Communities of Light, bringing the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth,
unification, and creating an environment that helps you to realize
Go ahead, Karlus.
Karlus: Well, thank you.
Something that I am in complete agreement with you is that after
Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, the rest was
written by Paul, who was not an apostle. I do not really put a
whole lot of credence on it, although I do put a little bit of
educated thought into his writings. But, when I go back and I
look at the book of John, you can tell that historically it was
written much later than the other books. And a lot of the
religions that have been forming around Jesus have taken its effect
in John’s writing of that book.
I would love to hear some impression on
that. But, that is not what we are here to talk about, I
Maitreya: Well actually,
that is a part of our teachings. Every religion has been
influenced by man. They have brought a lot of dogmas and pagan
teachings into God’s teachings. No religion is completely
immune from this phenomenon. You are absolutely right; the
teachings of Christ are only those red parts of the four gospels.
Even the gospel itself was written 170 years after Christ. God
knows what else has been added to it. Of course, the parts
that have been explained in THOTH are pure and the
explanations are very purely explained what Christ meant in those
I usually go ahead and give the example
of the game that is called, “Telephone.” If you have ten or
fifteen people, and you say a word to the first person, and then the
second, and then the third, by the time it comes to the tenth or
fifteenth person, the wording is absolutely different than what it
was in the beginning.
So, it is not only the Bible
that has been influenced. It was influenced greatly by the
teaching that was followed, before it was accepted in Rome.
And many things have been explained in THOTH, how the
Roman Culture influenced it, etc. Although Rome accepted
Christ, or Christianity, and it became the country’s religion, it
kept a lot of previous things that they were following.
Also, as Christ said, Paul could not be
as great as he was. Christ was the Messiah. He was sent
by God. He had the message for humanity.
If you read our teachings, you will
understand that God promised both Isaac and Ishmael that a Prophet
or a scepter would come from them. If Christians just accept
that and realize that God promised a Prophet both to Ishmael and
Isaac, then they have no choice but to say, “OK, Christ was one of
them. The next had to be Prophet Muhammed because God also
gave that promise to Ishmael.” Therefore, they would accept
Prophet Muhammed at least as the Prophet who came after Christ.
Again, our book is eye opening.
The Holiest Of The Holies is the explanation
of all the religions. It really opens your eye to the truth,
and to what God has been doing for humanity. And, no other
Revelation ever has been written down, published, and put in the
Internet. We are trying to keep it pure.
Even my disciples, when they want to
answer some people, I ask them to check with me because I have seen
how these things change in the course of time and how even disciples
love to change my words, the Prophet’s words. I love them.
They are great people. But at the same time I sometimes have
to be very, very careful of what they say.
Even a couple of weeks ago one of my
disciples was saying things in the Internet that was not completely
my teaching. And, also they make mistakes. I love them,
and they are great, but the disciples can make mistakes.
God is the first person who knows the
truth. The second is the Prophet who brings it. So, he
has the right to be very careful with it.
Hopefully, this teaching will stay as
pure as possible because it has already been written down, it has
already been put in the Internet, and we are trying to keep it as
pure as possible. But, it has happened throughout history that
people do love to change the word of God.
Go ahead, Parrot.
Parrot: Thank you,
Maitreya. You said that it is impossible to explain the
unexplainable. You are not right.
www.maitreya.org contains only words and some images of the
ancient teachings from India. So, you are also trying to
explain the unexplainable with words, which is impossible.
Right? How do you react if I tell you that you are trying to
deceive people by trying to explain the unexplainable with words?
Are you deceiving people like this, or
how do you react?
Maitreya: I react very
calmly [laughter], and I say that you are wrong. And, I say
that you have your opinion, and if you find our teachings are
deceiving then go your way. Do not come tell me that I am
deceiving people. Go your way and leave us to God, and we will
leave you to God.
We are sure we are not deceiving
anyone. Our teaching is based on God’s Word. Our
teaching is backed up with the prophecies fulfilled. Our
teaching has come at the correct time, and the timing has come for
this teaching, which humanity needs so badly.
It is not an ego trip. I am not
here to make money out of this. Actually, I have not taken one
penny of the money that comes to the Mission. So, it is
not here to make money, or an ego trip.
I have to tell you that you are
absolutely wrong. It is you, you have to prove it yourself,
that this teaching is correct, and on the website, and the
prophecies are fulfilled. The Seven Seals are opened.
The religions are unified. And any other religion, person, or
teacher, on the earth, is wrong, absolutely wrong, to this point.
The only person, the only teaching that is right, is the Mission
of Maitreya, and our teaching. Everyone else should come
here, read it, learn it, and understand it.
Do not judge us. We do not need
your judgment. We believe in God and His judgment. So
please, stop judging. If you believe that I am a charlatan,
then keep it to yourself and go away. OK?
Those who know me and understand the
teaching know that I am not. So, we do not accept whatever you
gave us. And, what-ever someone gives to them and they do not
accept, returns to them right back. So, do not send anything
negative here. I am not going to accept that. All the
negativity you send me, back to you.
Go ahead, Karlus.
Karlus: I wish to
apologize. It was only just about two weeks ago that I
stumbled across Maitreya’s group and I have been asking a lot
of questions. I have been told that if I come on Saturday
morning that Maitreya
would be here to speak personally. I have come in this morning
and five or six times already I have been red-dotted. I have
not even said a word yet. I have been typing in messages.
I believe that there is something
happening. What it is I am not sure yet and I am looking for
answers in this group. So I kind of take a little bit of
offence to the fact that I type something in and it says, “What you
typed has been red-dotted by the room,” and you have not even seen
what I have typed yet.
Oh, to keep order in the room is OK and
I do not think I am getting out of order. If I get out of
order, please tell me I am doing so and I will do my best efforts to
stop doing that. But I just feel kind of funny that I came in
and I was red-dotted. I got to talk once before and now I am
talking again but everything I type in the room does not get typed
in the room.
Maitreya: OK, Karlus.
Do not take the red-dotting personally. The people who are
red-dotted are the people who are new to the Mission and we
do not know them. It has happened before that some people just
walk into the
Mission room and grab the microphone and start yelling,
cursing, and saying bad things that are not allowed in this room.
Or, they type things that are not according to our teaching.
The text place has been reserved for the people who are supporting
my Satsang. They actually explain what I say. If you
also type it is going to become very confusing. That is why
everyone’s microphone and typing has been taken away from them.
Do not take it personally. It is for everyone who is new to
the room and we do not know them. That is what is going to
happen to them. If you prove yourself that you are a part of
the Mission, and you are a good person and you are not
disruptive, you will not be red-dotted.
So please do not type there if it is
not about the Mission. If you have a question, go to
the microphone. The microphone is open to everyone. You
will be given a chance to talk. So please do not take it
personally. That is why we have done it. It is for
order. It is for keeping the room pure and on topic.
Go ahead, Parrot.
Parrot: Sorry if I
offended you because the question that I have is because of your
sentence that you said it is impossible to explain the unexplainable
with words. And, since you do not have any answer for my
question, and you laughed. Do you think that is correct?
Please explain that one because if one cannot explain the
unexplainable with the words what is the use of the website
www.maitreya.org? It is nothing but words. Please do
not laugh at me again. Please.
Maitreya: OK, Parrot.
I was not laughing at you. I am laughing about the words that
are so out of a personal judgmental way of saying to someone, you
are a charlatan, before even knowing him or understanding the
teaching, coming here and accusing people that are not what you say.
The laughing is for that reason.
It is so amazing to us, at least to me, that you come here and have
that kind of mentality that would judge us and tell me that I am a
charlatan. And I am explaining to you, it is the third time I
am telling you, this is the last time I am telling you, the
Mission is not here to explain God. God cannot be
explained. The only way you can explain It is through a
personal, direct experience.
is to fulfill the prophecies, unify humanity, and bring the Kingdom
so that you can meditate and realize God, so you know what all those
Before that, all those explanations are
just intellectual understandings that might help you toward
realizing God. But the ultimate realization is a personal,
direct relationship with God.
So, understand what I am saying.
If you keep repeating yourself, then I might just say, “Oh forget
it. I am not going to answer that any more.” So, do not
let your personal feelings come in. I was not laughing at you.
I was laughing that you are so wrong, that it is just laughable.
That is what it was.
Go ahead, Radah.
Radah: Sal-OM Maitreya.
I am with a friend of mine here in Quebec. Her name is Louise,
and she wants to learn more about the Path. She wants to hear
more about the Path to the realization of God, please.
Maitreya: All right.
The Path is called, the Eternal Divine Path. The reason
it is called Eternal is because it started in eternity. It is
Divine because it leads to Divinity. And, it is called a Path
because it is a Path. It is the way. That means it is
going to take you somewhere.
If you sit here and the way is a bridge
between this world and the spiritual world, and I am in the
beginning of the bridge and I say, “Look, this is the bridge that
takes you to the spiritual world,” and you say, “WOW, such beautiful
eyes you have! Such a tall person you are. Your hair is
great. You say beautiful things, and I love what you say.
You are the son of God but I cannot be the son of God. You are
a Christ,” and this and that, you are going to become so wrapped up
in me that you are never going to pass over the bridge to the other
That is what all the other religions
and Prophets have become to their followers. They are so
wrapped up in the Prophet that they forgot what the message was.
So, the Message here is the Eternal
Divine Path. I am here to show you the Eternal Divine
Path, which is the salvation of humanity, physically, mentally,
and spiritually, individually and collectively.
The Eternal Divine Path, simply
put, is awakening your spiritual forces, which is related to any
technique or the way that has been given in the many Mystical Paths,
which includes Hinduism, Buddhism, Cabbala, Mystical Christianity,
Sufis, and many other teachings that basically say, “Know thyself,
to know thyself is to know God. Atman with the small “a” is
the same as Atman, as God. God and you are one. There is
no separation. The reason you feel separated is because of
your ego that you are having over your head, and you separate
yourself from God.”
Of course, some religions say that is
the end of it. If you realize God and you are one, then you
have reached the goal. But in our teaching God says, “No, no.
That is the beginning of the journey. That is when you direct
your energy toward the Communities of Light.
Communities of Light are the communities based on the Eternal
The beginning, the first step, was to
awaken your spiritual forces. Creation of the
Communities of Light, which is related to the Old
Testament, is the second step. In the Old Testament,
God was trying to find a people who are called the Children of
Israel or the Children of Light to create the twelve tribes of
Israel. The tribe really means a community.
He wanted them to accept God as their
King and Ruler because His rules are good for humanity, for man.
He knows man. He created man. He knows Himself,
therefore He knows man. Therefore, He said, “These are the
Laws. If you follow them, you will reach Me.” Of course,
at that time, the consciousness was low. Most of the things
were symbolically given to them, as sacrificing animals, etc.
Actually, that was pretty good. That is because before that
they used to sacrifice humans.
That is why sacrificing Isaac was not
such a big thing for Abraham, because everyone was sacrificing
humans. Then God said, “No, that is finished. You do not
have to sacrifice humans any more. Now it is time to sacrifice
animals.” So, He changed the theme of sacrificing humans to
sacrificing animals. But, anyway, that is besidesthe point.
The point is that the Old Testament
is based on the Communities of Light, and God is trying to
create or choose a people who follow God’s teaching. Of
course, as Jacob prophesied, after the Shiloh, or the Messiah comes,
that is going to be finished and done. That is what Christ
did. Christ finished that prophecy and period.
But in order to create Communities
of Light, what do we have to do? If everyone in the
community says, “What is in it for me? What is in it for me,”
do you think that this community is going to prosper? Do you
think that community is going to become a Community of Light?
No, it will not.
The next step is to sacrifice.
Sacrifice means not to be self-centered. It means to be
community-centered, to try to stay in the community, to try to help
the community, to try to be in the community, to try not to be
self-centered. It is not, “What is in it for me alone,” but,
“What is in it for the community?”
That is what Christ came to set an
example for humanity: sacrifice. He went all the way to
the cross for his ideal. He sacrificed himself for his fellow
man, for humanity. He released The Grace.
Actually, he was the sacrificial lamb,
which finished sacrificing even animals any more but sacrificing the
ego. All the sacrifices really were the symbol of sacrificing
the ego. Therefore, he finished sacrificing even animals so
you do not need to sacrifice the lamb, etc, because Christ died for
that reason to stop all that. So we can see the symbol of
Christianity or Christ is sacrifice.
But, now you are sacrificing a lot for
the community and nothing happens. No community is formed, no
one joins, and no one creates the community. What happens?
You become depressed. You say, “Oh, look at this. I am doing
all these things, and nothing is happening.” And, you become
Or, if you do all the sacrifice and the
communities start happening, you say, “Look at that! It is me
who created this community.” We can see that most of the
people who succeed to create communities, or religious sects, or
orders, become so egoistical. You can see the example of it in
some of these preachers. They fall. They are found with
prostitutes, or this or that. It is because they say, “Oh, I
am so invincible. I am a person who is so great that no one
can touch me any more.” And, that is when the fall comes.
So the next step is surrendering and
submission to God. Surrendering means that, “I do my best.
I do the greatest sacrifice I can, but I am not going to be attached
to the result. I am doing all these things for God. I am
not doing them for myself, therefore, I surrender the results to God
and say, I did all these things. The result is yours, God.
I am just going to go to the next project. I am not going to
sit here and wait to see if the result is going to come up or not.
I will just do it, leave it, go, and whatever happens is up to God.”
Even greater than surrendering, of
course, is submission. If you and God are one, let God do it
through you. Does God do a perfect job? Yes, He does.
He is perfect, therefore, you will do perfect.
If you are not doing perfect, then you
have to sit back and say, “What am I doing wrong? Maybe I am
not letting all God come through. Maybe my ego is still there
that prevents me from doing a perfect job.”
So, if you let God come through you
will be perfect, and you will do a perfect job. And, you are
not going to be attached to the result because God is doing it
through you. With that, you overcome the attachment to the
result of your actions. That frees you to go ahead and go to
Now, in this, of course, surrendering
and submission is the message of Islam. Islam comes from the
word “tasleim,” which means being surrendered and submissive to God.
Therefore, if you are not attached to the result of your actions,
you are free.
Now you might say, “I will help you
only if you are a Moslem, or a Jew, or a Buddhist, or a Hindu, or
you are South American, or Peruvian, or this or that.” You are
narrowing yourself to a very small portion of the universe.
Still you are separating God from God. That narrowness, of
course, creates prejudice, separation, and the suffering that we are
experiencing right now on earth. That is because everyone is
separate from everyone else. Only our interests are
more important. That is when the suffering starts.
That is why universalism comes in when
you reach a point that you say, “The whole universe is my home.
God is my Father and Mother. And I have no gender because I am
both male and female because God is male and female.”
Therefore, you shatter all the narrowness of the mind and you are
These are the five steps of the
Eternal Divine Path: awakening of your spiritual forces,
which is the Mystical Paths; creation of the Communities of Light,
Old Testament; sacrifice New Testament; surrendering and
submission to God, Islam; and becoming a universalist, the Baha’i
As I said, it is a Path. Either
you follow it, or you do not. If you follow it, you will
receive the benefit. If you do not, even I cannot help you,
even God cannot help you.
It has been given to you. God
says that is what you have to do. Of course, if God’s Grace is
with you, you will follow it. God’s Grace makes everything
So, if you follow these five steps, you
go to the sixth step, which we call, Paravipras, or the Elects, that
all the religions of the world are talking about the Elects.
The Elects are the people that God has chosen as His Children, as
His sons and daughters, and they accept God as their Father and
Mother, as their King. They will follow His Laws, which is the
darma of everything, the innate nature of everything. You
follow the innate nature.
What is the innate nature of this
computer? The innate nature of this computer is to let me talk
to you. If it does not do that, what am I going to do with it?
I am going to throw it in the garbage [laughing]. It is going
to go to hell. That is how it works.
So, the Elects are the people who
follow the Eternal Divine Path, create the Communities of
Light, bring the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth, and create an
environment… Listen, Parrot, that is a good place for you to
realize. They create an environment that the people awaken
their spiritual forces and eventually return to God and experience
We are not here to explain the
unexplainable. We are here to create an environment that every
individual can go to the place that they can experience the
Even then, they are not going to stay
there. God is going to send them back to the
Communities of Light, to the earth, to humanity, to our
teaching, to help even more people to go there.
I hope that answers your friend’s
question. If you have any follow-up, Radah, go ahead.
Radah: Thank you very
Maitreya: OK then, Parrot,
Parrot: Thank you,
Maitreya. So you said your Mission is not to
explain the unexplainable. That means you have nothing to do
with God. You are the website, right? That is what I
understood. Because I am a seeker. I am seeking God.
But you said it is impossible to explain the unexplainable.
So, I think there is no point in staying here or reading your books.
Bye all. Thank you.
Maitreya: Well, I did not
get all the words you said, but it is your choice if you want to
leave. We wish you good luck and we leave you to God.
But, we are telling you that this is the greatest Revelation that
has ever come to humanity, and if you miss it, you miss big.
But, I am not going to insist on it.
It is up to you to prove it to yourself.
Go ahead, Karlus.
Karlus: Yes, I thank you,
Maitreya. I did not realize that it was you that was using
the name Joseph on there.
What he has just said, you said that
you do not wish to explain something. Now, I myself have been
studying the Urantia books for about 15 years. Much of the
book says there are things that we cannot explain to you.
Humankind is not ready for the explanations. So, you have to
wait and grow a little more so that you can understand what the
explanations are. You would not understand them if we told you
And I am kind of wondering, Maitreya,
when I heard your name, is it kind of a different pronunciation of
the name Mithras, which I believe is a Greek pronunciation of a man
who lived in Iran approximately at the same time as Jesus? And
I have been told that it is. I am asking you personally
though, is it a pronunciation of Mithras?
Maitreya: Well, you are
correct on the things that are not explainable. Even if
sometime we explained the unexplainable, if you have not experienced
it, it does not make any difference because you might even become
more confused because the unexplainable can be very confusing.
About the name
Maitreya, there are many, many theories about where the name came
from. One of them is that the Zoroastrian religion predicted
the coming of a savior of the world and that he would be born from a
virgin and save the world.
You can see the similarity between that
saying and the teaching of Christianity that Christ was born from a
virgin and he is the savior of the world. We know that
Mithraism became a very powerful sect all over the world at the time
of the Roman Empire. Actually, some people believe that if
Christianity had not come to the West and taken over, actually the
West would have been followers of Mithra.
However, when Christ came, as I said,
although they accepted Christ, they chose to follow a lot of the
previous beliefs. Even the timing of the day, the weekly
names, and most of the feasts and holidays that we have, all were in
place even before Christianity came to the Roman Empire. And,
they continued those without even changing to the way that the
Jewish people had it, because Christ was a Jew after all. So,
we can see that there is a lot of influence that is in Christianity.
One theory is that although Mithraism
spread to the west of Iran, to India and China, at that time the
Buddhists became a very strong sect and religion in that area.
They also realized that probably their teaching was not going to
unify all of humanity. Their teaching was not going to be the
one that would do it. They liked the idea of the savior, the
coming of Mithra, and they incorporated the idea into their
religion. That is, of course, an intellectual explanation.
The other explanation is that the
Buddha did prophesy that Maitreya would come 2,500 years
after his dispensation. That is exactly where we are. We
are exactly 2,500 years after Buddha.
And, in the teaching of Zoroastrian, it
was predicted that such a person was going to come around 1,200
years after the Prophet of the Muslims, of the Arabs. Again,
this is the time for its coming or 1,200 years after Islam came to
So we can see many ways to look at it,
but I do not know about the person you are talking about who came at
the same time that Christ came, in Iran. I have never heard
that before. I know that Mithra was the savior that the
Zoroastrian religion has predicted to come at the end time, and he
is the savior of the world.
You can go ahead and explain a little
bit about that person, I have never heard that before.
Go ahead, Karlus.
Karlus: I happened upon a
room, and they were asking about your teachings. They were
talking about your teachings and I found them to have some
similarity to something that I had been studying. I have been
studying for almost twenty years about the same thing. And, I
am wondering, could you give me an answer on this? Have you
ever read the Urantia Book?
Maitreya: I have looked at
the book. I did not read the whole thing. I found it a
little cumbersome for my tastes. I saw that there are a lot of
hierarchies between hierarchies over hierarchies, and I do not
believe in hierarchies. I believe that every man can go to God
directly. He does not need the hierarchies in heaven to help
So, I have to say that I do not know
everything about the book, but I did look through it.
Actually, we had the book for a while. I do not know what
happened to it. I do not think we have it any more. But,
we did have it in our library.
We have a library here, which has the
books of almost every religion. So to answer your question,
no, I have not read the whole book, but the parts that I looked at,
it seems to me that there are too many hierarchies. You can go
ahead and explain it to me if that is true or not.
Karlus: Well, the
teachings of the book are very down to earth. They teach of
the order of Melchizedek, which was the original priesthood.
You can see that I typed that in text. And, in the Bible
it is mentioned in Genesis 14, verse 18, and it is also
mentioned in the end of
Hebrews chapter 7 and into chapter 8 for a further
explanation of what the priesthood is. But no, I am a priest
of the Order of Melchizedek. And, I seek out truth within the
world. And I hear you telling truth. If I heard you
telling lies, I would leave the room. So I am staying.
For the moment, I have not heard you tell any lies. That much
you have my blessing, my son, my friend.
Maitreya: All right, father
[laughing]. Well, that is interesting because the word
Melchizedek has been repeated in the whole Bible only two or
three times. It has not been repeated many times, and God
never really said that you should follow Melchizedek. Although
it seems he was the high priest at that time, you should follow God.
Paul said that he was the first priest
and all of that. And, again, if you agree with me, and you
did, that Paul was not the most reliable source to go to, you have
to really think very carefully about your choice of Melchizedek as
the priest order, or the first priest of God. I think the
first Priest of God was the First Begotten Son of God, or was
Christ, and he came as the Messiah again and again and that is how
If you are a real seeker, you have to
really look into the order of Melchizedek in a deeper level and see,
“Is it really the word of God that you have to follow the order of
Melchizedek, or does the word of God say differently?” So, I
know you are saying you are a priest of Melchizedek. But see
if really Melchizedek is the person you want to be the priest of, or
God’s words are a little different than what you think it is.
I know it is very hard for the people
who believe something to come here and I try to tell them that what
they believe maybe needs some examination, but believe me, I have
your welfare in my mind. I am not trying to put your beliefs
down. I am not trying to put anyone’s belief down.
When I received this teaching, it was
so fantastic that I believe everyone should really examine whatever
he or she has and compare it with what we have here.
Go ahead, Karlus.
Karlus: I really do
appreciate your concern, that perhaps my teaching that I am studying
needs some examination. I have been studying for many, many
years to come to the conclusions that I have. I have been
talking to your administrators over the last two weeks. And, I
have said that I would like to get to know you personally and have a
very personal conversation at some time, maybe over the Internet,
maybe over the telephone. Maybe I can come to where you live,
or you can come to where I live. But, I think that we have a
combined destiny that if we put them together we will know something
that is very strong.
I believe that my destiny is to tear
down the Catholic Church and create a one-world church for all
Maitreya: Well, Karlus you
can talk to me here in front of everyone. I have nothing to
hide from anyone. I am an open book. And, there is
nothing secret here in this Mission. Everything is open
to everyone. So, if you want to go ahead and bring the
conversation here while we are here, that would be just fine.
We can discuss what is in your mind. Maybe you do have a
You are absolutely correct, this is the
Revelation that ends all other revelations and will create a
one-world church, or religion, or teaching. If you want to be
a part of it, and it has been revealed to you that that is what you
should do, I would be more than glad to discuss it with you.
OK, Red Tulip, go ahead.
Red Tulip: So far this is
my first day to listen to you. I agree with what Karlus said
that so far you have spoken the truth. Earlier there was a
lady that questioned about the anti-Christ and the final perdition.
I wanted to ask you, you may have already said it, do you believe
that Jesus came in the flesh? And that Jesus is the Son of
God? Is that what you believe?
Maitreya: Yes, Red Tulip.
We believe Christ came in the flesh and that is, he was the Messiah,
he was the Mouthpiece of God. He brought the revelation of
sacrifice in the Eternal Divine Path. He was the Third
If you study the teaching of Christ,
you will find that there are a lot of threes in them: Three
days in the belly of the world. Three cock crows. Three
falls. He was tempted three times. There are many, many
Actually, one Feast of Tabernacles
everyone sat around the table and tried to find out how many threes
Christ taught, or symbols, came with him. There were many.
They found what, around 15 or 20 of them? So, you can see that
the three is very important in his mission, and he was the Third
I am flattered that you see that I have
some truth here. The people in the Mission
know that I do not, I cannot, lie. If I say something, I
probably mean it.
We appreciate that God has come to
earth again and brought the truth to everyone.
OK Karlus, go ahead.
Karlus: Well, JosephE,
Maitreya, whatever name you are going by, you tempted me here.
You said to me go ahead and tell you what it is that I want to talk
about. I normally do not talk about this. I have been
thinking about it for thirty years, and I normally keep it to
It involves the Catholic Church.
Now, I was never brought up Catholic, I was a Protestant. But,
something I became aware of and I would appreciate, Joseph, if you
would type in a yes or no if you are aware of these things.
There was a woman and her three
children in 1917(?) who saw visions of the Virgin Mary at a place
called Fatima in Portugal. Type in yes or no if you are aware of
these things. I do not see anything typed yet. OK.
Anyway, two of the three children died
within a year. The one whose name is Lucile DelSantos still
lives on, and she wrote three messages to be given to the Pope of
different ages. The first two messages were read in the
1940’s. She said that the third message, the last message,
would either be written at the time of her death, or in 1960,
whichever came first.
Now I have spent my whole life studying
Maitryea: Sorry, Karlus, I
red-dotted you. I have heard that. I have been told your
ideas about that letter, that they have not opened it, and it is a
I have to say my answer was already
given to you. This is not important. It is not that
important what is in this letter. If it is in this letter that
the destruction of the Catholic Church will come, so it will.
It is not something to be concerned about.
Here is the greater Revelation that has
come to you that unifies all the religions of the world.
The Catholic Church will eventually
fall apart because its time is gone. It is up, as the time of
the Jewish people was up, as the time of the other people came up.
And, I do not know why you are so concerned and obsessed with this
Can you just forget it, read our
teaching, and come and let us unify humanity instead? Go ahead
if you have any follow-up but do not go through the story. I
know the story.
Go ahead, Red Tulip.
Red Tulip: I was just
going to add to what I said earlier that that question of that lady,
we are required by Scripture, to test the spirit and to see if there
are any false prophets in the world. Because it was told that
there would be many of them.
When I asked you, Is Jesus the son of
God and he came in the flesh, in I John 4:15 it says, “Whosoever
shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwells in him and he
in God.” That is all I wanted to add and that I felt that what
I know so far that I feel like you are teaching the truth, and I
agree with it.
Maitreya: Thank you, Red
Tulip. Actually, that is interesting that there are other
Maitreyas who believe that he built his body and all that, and they
say that Maitreya overshadowed him. In a sense, they do
not believe that Christ was the Son of God. And, we do believe
that. That sentence is correct. If you believe that he
was the Son of God, you have a good grip of the reality of it.
We appreciate that you see the truth in
this teaching. I hope you go to our website, read more,
understand what we are teaching, and then if you decided that this
is the last Revelation of God, come and join us and put your talents
into the creation of the Communities of Light, and the
coming of the Kingdom.
All right. It sounds like there
are not other questions here, and we are almost at the end of our
Satsang. I will give you a couple of minutes.
OK Karlus, go ahead.
Karlus: A very serious
question for you, Maitreya, are you the king of the coming
kingdom? Is that what you are saying by what you just said?
Maitreya: Is it a trick
question? [laughing] Well, if you read our system, you will
see that the final head of the kingdom will emerge from the bottom
of the society. It is up to you to realize who I am. It
is not up to me to prove it to you. It is up to you to prove
it to yourself. If you can prove it to yourself, then you know
in your heart who I am. And, if you do not prove it to
yourself, it does not matter how much I tell you who I am.
So really, the question is mute because
it is everyone’s individual realization to see the prophecies, to
see the teaching, to see the fulfillment of God’s Revelation, the
coming of this teaching of humanity, who can open the book sealed
with the Seven Seals, and come to your own conclusion.
If you concluded anything fine, it is
your conclusion. And, if you did not come to any conclusion,
again it is your prerogative.
It is up to you, each individual, to go
to our website, to read our teaching to see the prophecies, to see
the unification of the religions, to see the Word of God, and if you
see some truth in what I say, then what is in the website is also
Go ahead, Karlus, but please be brief.
Karlus: It is an ongoing
thing, prophecy and revelation are something that continue.
They continue throughout your life. You and I both are
continuously being given visions of things that should happen, and
we have to figure out ways to make them happen.
I would ask you please, Joseph, I call
you by Joseph your name is up there, please feel free to send me a
personal message with an e-mail address or something and I can
contact you directly and we can converse without the other people
hearing what we have to say. We can talk directly. I
mean, it is not that I am afraid of them but we could carry on a
more personal conversation. I think that would be a wise
I have been looking my entire life for
someone to talk to about the things that I know. I think you
might be that person. Give yourself a chance, brother. I
do not mean to sound too funny about that, but I like to think we
are all humans, and we are all part of the same planet. Some
of us are just on a different mission.
Maitreya: OK Karlus,
anything you have to say, you have to say it here. That is
where I discuss things. I do not discuss private things.
Go ahead, Brother Frank.
BroFrank: Yes, My Lord,
Maitreya. Praise be unto God for you. Could you,
Sir, tell me something about your Persian roots? It is my
understand that you are a descendent to the Persian Kings, Nadir
Shah, possible back to Zoroaster. Do you know, or can you
share more about your roots with us?
Maitreya: Yes, Bro Frank.
The Revelation and the Message was so great that I thought that if
anyone heard it they would say, “Wow, that is great. He really
is from God,” because it makes sense. There is so much truth
I was not really concerned about my
life, where I was from, or the prophecies, or my genealogy, or
anything like that at all. Even the prophecies have been found
by other people and brought to the Mission, and they said,
“Hey, did you know this and this, and that it matches exactly you or
this and that?”
So about my genealogy, the only thing I
remember is my parents were talking about that we are descendants of
Nadir Shah. Well, they had a village in that providence called
Shahrasar in the providence of Taleghan, which is around two or
three hours drive north of Tehran. There was a very tall kind
of a hill. They said that actually, they built that as a
lookout place, that when you stayed there you could see miles and
miles if people were coming close to the village or not. That
is one of things that they had built, and that is why they had that
place. And, that is all I know about my genealogy.
Now, if someone wants to go and study
my genealogy and see where I end up, as I said, it is not important
any more because as we discussed, in the time of Jacob when he gave
the prophecy of the kingship to Judah, he also said, “Until the
Shiloh comes.” So trying to connect the other teachers after
Christ to Judah, which King David was from the tribe of Judah, is no
longer necessary. He said it. It is in the Bible,
right in chapter 49. When he gave the kingship to Judah he
said, “Until the Shiloh,” which means the Messiah, “comes.”
And, then Messiah was Christ. And, he was from the tribe of
So, I am personally not that interested
in that part of my life. But if someone wants to go research,
that would be fine. It is up to you guys to go ahead and do
it. But, that is all I know, that we are from the King Nadir.
And that was also the word of mouth. There is not something
written down or that anyone researched it.
So there is a possibility that it might
go all the way to Zoroaster or whatever, because we are in the north
of Iran and Zoroaster was from the north of Iran. So, the
possibility is there. But is that true or not? According
to the prophecies and the word of God, that is not something that I
really am emphasizing.
Go ahead, cog.
Cog: Thanks. Well, I
was wondering kind of on the same lines if you had any Jewish roots.
And, I wanted to make a comment about, I thought it was a really
interesting vision that your mother had or the dream when she was
pregnant with you as sitting on a lion, and that the lion was her
son. Anyway, I wanted to know if you knew of any Jewish roots,
and I think it could be a good thing to check out your heritage or
Maitreya: Go ahead, Cog.
It is fine with me [laughing]. You can go and research about
that if you want. But to me, the most important thing is the
Message. The most important point is that the Word of God said
that the kingdom will stay with Judah until the Shiloh comes.
So, after Christ, Prophet Mohammed was not from King David.
Prophet Mohammed was an Arab. He was from Ishmael.
So, if we look for the genealogy, then
are we going to reject Prophet Mohammed? Or, we say, “No, he
was a Prophet of God, and he brought the revelation of surrendering
But, you never know, maybe God has a
plan for someone to go and look at my genealogy, and say, “This is
another proof.” I do not need any proof. And, those
people who believe in me do not need proof either. But, if you
need proof and you want to make my case even stronger, great.
But, I do not need any proof. I never needed any proof because
the Revelation is so great. It is so wonderful that that is
good enough for me.
But, you go ahead if you want to do
Go ahead, Karlus, but please be brief.
And, say anything you want in front of everyone.
Karlus: I did come in
here. I waited for two weeks. I tried last Saturday to
talk to you, and PalTalk was down being fixed and I am back this
week. Seriously, the things that I do want to talk to you
about, you say talk to you about them in the room. I tried to,
and I have been red dotted a few times for doing so. I think
it would be better if we had personal communication, as brothers,
brothers in God, got together and talked about the things.
Because I do not want to frighten your people away that are in your
room. I do not want to scare them at all. But, I think
that there is something that you and I need to talk about.
And, I think it goes much further than what we are talking about
Maitreya: Go ahead,
BroFrank: Yes, thank you
my Lord. I come from a religion that requires me to prove all
things. Yet I know in my heart that you are that same Spirit
that I see, read about as my Lord Jesus, that same Spirit that I see
in Prophet Muhammed, Bab, and Baha’u’llah. There is no
question in my mind that you are who you say you are, for I see that
same light and hear that same Blessed Light emanating from you, Sir.
But there is that command to prove all
things in Scripture. And there is a blessed Scripture in
Psalms 89 that promises us that there will always, always be a flesh
and blood King on the throne, on that Davidic throne that was exiled
to Persia and flourished under King Cyrus. I cannot help but
believe that you are a continuation of that.
That would prove intellectually, for
many I know, that you are indeed the Promised One, although I know
intuitively that you are. My concern is for those others who
need this proof, not for myself.
Maitreya: Great Brother
Frank. I hope that I see millions and billions like you, those
who have realized what is happening here in this Mission,
come together, and create the Communities of Light. Let
us bring God’s Kingdom, bring peace on earth, let us make God come
through the head of the hierarchy, which is the the idea of the
king. The king is the one that is connected to God directly.
And, he brings his spirit to his subjects. Therefore, because
God is perfect, He never makes mistakes.
If God makes mistakes, if your king
makes mistakes, if the head of the state makes mistakes, therefore,
they are not connected to God and, therefore, they have lost the
connection. And when the head is sick, as it says in the
Scriptures, the body will also be sick. It is so important
that the head is not sick.
About my genealogy, maybe God has some
plan for someone to go, study, and find out. And I said maybe
you would find something that will have great bearing for those who
are still hanging onto that philosophy.
As you have realized, this teaching is
a great teaching. It makes sense. It is beautiful.
It is the fulfillment of the prophecies, and it is from God.
If you realize that, then the next step for you is to send me an
e-mail and tell me that you have no choice but to be in this
Mission. From there on, you will be a part of this
Mission with the rest of the people who are with us.
Then I hope we will have 144,000 Elects
and we all will eventually, after humanity goes through these wars
and tribulation and destruction, realize that God is the only way,
and the Mission has His Words.
Sal-Om everyone. I will leave you
on that note. I will see you next week if the PalTalk is not