Good morning. Welcome to the Mission of Maitreya’s
Satsang and Room, our Cyber Church. I hope you are here to
learn about the
and what we have here to offer you. As you might know, this is
the Revelation of the Seven Seals, the unification of all religions.
has been prophesied to come to humanity. In all religions of
the world, it has been talked about that one day the Kingdom of God
will come on earth. Now each religion thinks that they will
bring the Kingdom of Heaven to earth.
Jews says that they are
the Elected Ones, and they are the ones who will bring the Kingdom
on earth. Christians say that they are the only way.
Moslems say that they have the last word. The Baha’is say
that, “We are the last manifestation.” Of course, when we go
to God’s Word and Revelations, we see that He has a different Plan,
and that He will culminate His Revelation after the Revelation of
the Seven Seals, or after the Seventh
There in Scripture, He
clearly says that no one knows the truth until the
Seventh Angel comes, He will reveal the truth to humanity, and
God is no longer a mystery. So far, up to this point, God has
been a mystery.
Therefore, anyone who
says that they have the truth, they have the answer, they have the
revelation, they have the religion, it is not the whole picture of
the truth, but is a part of the truth and is not complete. And
God said that it will only be completed when the
Seventh Angel comes, when the Seven Seals are opened.
has opened the Seven Seals and fulfilled the prophecies that God has
said would be fulfilled by the Seventh
Angel. Also, many other things that are based on the Word
of God are fulfilled in this Mission
and through this vessel.
Then how could this
Revelation and this vessel be anything but from God when it fulfills
the things that God has said will be fulfilled through this
Revelation? Therefore, those who say otherwise and try to
bring negativity to the Mission,
are doing it to themselves, and unfortunately they will suffer for
creating negativity toward something that is Godly.
I pray that God will be
merciful to them and I say, “God, forgive them, they know not what
they do.” That is because they think that they are correct,
when their Scripture says that no truth, no revelation, no religion,
no teaching will be perfect until the
Seventh Angel comes, and it is then that the mystery of God will
If they had even the
slightest Spirit of Truth in them and they wanted to know the truth,
with realizing that the prophecies are fulfilled, the book with the
Seven Seals is opened, the Seven Revelations of God are unified, and
the Seven Seals are revealed to humanity, they would have no choice
but to say, “Yes, these are the Words of God. Therefore, we
accept this as God’s Revelation.” If they do not, of course,
this is the time of sundering because this is the time of the end.
God said that at the end there would be a sundering between the
chaff and the wheat. I hope they realize this and become wheat
instead of becoming the chaff and will take this Revelation
seriously. They will take this Revelation, at least as
something to look into.
Go to our website, read
what has been revealed, study it, and ask questions. Be very
diligent in finding out what it says and that you may forget about
your dogmas, your own understandings, what the preachers tell you,
or what the tradition has brought to you, but say, “I am the seeker
of the truth and I want to know, what is this Maitreya
talking about? Is he really the anti-Christ as many people
come and tell me he is, or does he really fulfill the prophecies
that the Word of God said he would? If he is fulfilling what
God said he would fulfill, how can he be the anti-Christ and not the
So, I am very concerned
for these people and I hope they will realize that they are doing it
to their own peril. Hopefully they will realize this and come,
or at least as I said, will consider to go to search, knock, ask
questions, and the door will be opened to them. If they just
rely on their own understandings, their own narrow realizations, I
am afraid they are going against the Will of God, and they will be
hurting themselves in the long run.
Also, those who bring
negativity and are opposing us and trying to say we are not good,
what is wrong here? Why do not they just realize that if they
have the truth, they should be “filled up.” If I have the
truth, I am not worried about anything in the universe. If I
am saved, then I am saved. That is it! Even if the devil
comes to me, I am saved. I am not afraid of anti-Christ of
anything. I will go my way and say, “I leave you, anti-Christ,
to God, and I will go to God.”
Well, is it possible that
they are not really sure that they are saved, and their God is not
really the God of the Bible, The Revelation, Abraham,
Isaac, and Jacob? They have to ask themselves, “Why are we
opposing everyone on the earth? If we are secure in our
revelation, in our teaching, in our God, therefore, who cares who is
what and what is who? The most important thing is that we have
the truth, we are saved, and God is with us.”
That is exactly what the
and the people in it feel, “God is with us.” We are not afraid
of anyone. We do not go and open a room and tell them that
they are the devil, or they are a cult, or this and that.
Who is a cult anyway?
A cult is an organization that the prophet or the personality
becomes more important than the message. Hey, what religions,
or organizations, do that, that their prophet is becoming more
important than the message of the prophet? Hmmm, let us think
Who is the most
important, the person who brings the message, or the message?
If I had a message to bring from one country to another country, and
I go to the head of the state there and say, “Worship me. I am
not going to give you the message,” am I a good messenger? I
did not give the message to them. Actually, I am depriving
them from the message, which came from God.
So, think about your
religions. Think about the tradition. Think about what
your preachers have taught you and realize that in order to go to
God, you do not need a medium. You have to go to God directly.
God is closer to you than yourself and, therefore, this Mission,
which does not bring and teach that the Messenger is greater than
the Message, is not a cult. It cannot be.
Actually, I do not care.
Do you want to walk out of this Mission
tomorrow? Bye, bye. It is not something I am going to
brainwash you and keep you in the
Mission, not a
bit. I am not interested if you are not interested.
If you are not interested
in God, I am not interested in you. It is very simple.
And, when you are here, you are here by your own will, and you can
walk away anytime you want. It is not something that we will
push on you.
So, tell these people
that they should meditate on these things. You at least should
know about us first before you jump to the conclusions. As
Christ said, “Take the beam out of your eyes first before you can
judge others,” or even Maitreya.
As I said, I pray for
them and tell God, “God, they know not what they do,” because all
the things in this
are Godly. Everything we say is based on the Scriptures.
Everything we do is pure; at least we try to make it all as pure as
So let them know that,
please, they should study us, test the Spirit, and then judge.
Even then, do not judge, because you still have a beam in your eye.
Let God who is Pure judge between us.
You go your way, and we
go our way, and let God decide who is the correct one. If you
do not, then I am afraid you are creating a very bad karma and you
surely will fall into great ignorance, which is really the fire of
We will go ahead. I
guess there are a couple of people in here new. We will go
ahead and explain our teaching to them.
Our teaching is based on
the Sign that we call, The Greatest Sign. If you go to
our website, which I can see that someone has posted the URL there
for you, click on that. When you enter there, you might see a
pop-up window. Just say, OK. It is just something that
is related to the java applet there. So just go ahead and
There you will see The
Greatest Sign. It is animated. You will see a dot
and then the formation of The Greatest Sign to the I-Ching,
then the Lotustica, and on and on.
The basic teaching is very simple.
It is based on a Path, which has five steps in it. The first
step is the awakening of your spiritual forces, which is the I-Ching
at the very bottom.
The very sign in the
middle, if you are looking at it, is a representation of God, which
expands and spins out into the universe. It was when that
happened that the balance in the universe was disturbed, and there
was chaos. That is exactly where the
Bible starts, when the darkness was on the deep and the
Spirit of God moved upon the face of the deep and brought those
consciousnesses, which were in darkness, under His control, etc.
When that chaos was
there, the Spirit of God moved into the darkness and went through a
Path, which we call, the Eternal Divine Path. That Path
was the one that the Spirit of God went through and eventually
reached back to Godhood. That is what God saw, the light.
And the light was good, and God blessed it, and on and on.
As you can see, that
light is different than the lights that God created later as the sun
and the moon. That was the light of the Christ that had
reached to Godhood.
Therefore, that Path
Eternal Divine Path. And, in the last 12,000 years, God
has been sending each part of the Eternal Divine Path as a
The First Seal was
revealed by Noah. Of course, it is much more detailed. I
am going through it very quickly here. You can read our
Scripture, which is called, The Holiest Of The Holies (THOTH),
The Last Testament. It will explain it to you in much
more detail. You can download the whole Revelation from the
website free of any charge. You can just read it, understand
it, and if you have any questions, then you are welcome to come here
and ask them.
Therefore, the first step was the
awakening of the spiritual forces, which covers all the Mystical
Paths. The first Mystical Path that came to humanity was
through Noah. That is when the human’s third eye was closed.
Noah taught them how to
meditate and eventually those teachings came as the many mystical
teachings in the world. The base of the mystical teaching is,
“Know thyself, to know God,” or as the Bible says, “Be still,
and know that I am God.” All those mystical teachings say the
same thing, that if you become still, you will know that God is
already within you.
You do not have to go
anywhere. You do not have to go to the church, or mosque, or
synagogue, or temple. Your body is the Temple of God.
Your body contains the self, which is the same as God, which is the
Self with a big “S.”
The Mystical Paths
include Hinduism, Buddhism, Cabbala (the Mystical part of Judaism),
the Saints in Christianity, the Sufis in Islam, and many other
disciplines that include knowing thyself, meditating, chanting,
dancing, and all those things that help in the process.
In the Mystical Paths
they say, “That is it, you meditate and awaken your spiritual
forces, you reach Pure Consciousness, and like a drop of water, you
fall into the ocean. You become one with God. That is
the goal of spiritual progress.”
But, we can see that God
brought another revelation to humanity, the Old Testament.
Old Testament, God was trying to find a people, the twelve
tribes of Israel, who accept God as their King and His Laws as the
Laws of their communities.
Therefore, the next step
is the creation of the Communities of Light.
Communities of Light
are the communities based on the Eternal Divine Path and
So, the first step in the
Path is to awaken your spiritual forces, to know thyself. The
second step is to direct this energy to create the Communities of
Light. And the
Communities of Light are the communities based on God and His
The Old Testament
is based on the sign that is called the Sign of Solomon, or the Star
of David. The triangle downward is the Spirit of God coming to
man, and the triangle upward is the hierarchy on earth.
The triangle upward
always shows the hierarchy. The top is the president, and on
and on. In the Seal of Soloman, of course, it is the hierarchy
of the Elects and God’s people. The triangle downward is the
Spirit of God. So, a correct Godly organization is the
organization with the triangle upward with the Spirit of God in it.
If you take the Spirit of God out, that organization is no longer
Therefore, we can see
that the next step in the Eternal Divine Path is to direct
your energy toward the creation of the Communities of Light,
where the opportunities will be given to everyone to progress
physically, mentally, and spiritually. These are the three
parts of the human that they have to progress in, in a very balanced
way. If you progress only physically, your mind and your
spirit are not going to be strong. If you progress only
mentally, you become mentally strong but physically your body cannot
carry out your mental ability. If you become spiritually
strong, you might become an escapist, forsake the world, and will
not put effort into the world.
Those three levels of the
human being, physical, mental, and spiritual, have to progress
together. In the
Communities of Light, that opportunity will be given to
everyone. So, the second level in the Eternal Divine Path,
the creation of the Communities of Light, is Judaism, is the
In order to create such
communities, sacrifice is necessary. You cannot create
Communities of Light where everyone says, “What is in it for me,
what is in it for me, only.” Sacrifice has been shown to
humanity by Christ.
Christ came and
sacrificed himself all the way to the cross. Therefore, he set
an example for humanity that sacrifice, or not being self-centered,
He had two other missions
also. He gathered the people as was prophesied he would, and
he released The Grace back to humanity after it was taken away at
the time of the Garden of Eden. Therefore, those who have been
following Christ, or Christians, really truly have been saved by
That Grace is now
released to humanity. Those who believe that they can win
God’s Grace will receive it freely because The Grace has been
released to every person. It does not belong only to
Christians. Those who believe in the Mission,
the Eternal Divine Path, and this Revelation, will receive
Therefore, one of the
missions of Christ was to show that in order to create the
Communities of Light, sacrifice is necessary. Without
sacrifice, there are no Communities of Light.
Now you sacrifice and you
want to create the communities. It does not happen. You
become very discouraged, unhappy, and you become depressed.
You say, “Why do I do all these things, it is not happening?”
Or, you do things, and it
happens. The Communities of Light pop up all over the
world. You become elated and say, “Look, I am great. I
am doing all this by myself,” and you become egoistical.
The moment you become
egoistical, what happens? That is exactly what cuts off The
Grace between you and God. Ego is the umbrella that we all
have on the top of our heads, and we cut off The Grace. The
moment you have ego, Grace is gone, no matter whom you follow, or
what you believe. If you have ego, that is it, you are
disconnected from The Grace.
Therefore, in order to be
able to neither become depressed nor become elated and egoistical,
the next step in the Eternal Divine Path is surrendering the
result to God. That means, “I do my best, I try to follow the
Eternal Divine Path, I sacrifice, I try to create the
Communities of Light, but I surrender the result to God.”
I say, “OK, I did the work, but the result is God’s. I am not
going to be attached to the result.”
Of course, greater than
surrendering is submission. You always concentrate that God is
doing this through you. You are not the doer. If you are
not the doer, therefore, you cannot be attached to the result of
If I am not giving this
Satsang, if I am just letting God come through and my word comes to
you, if it is going to affect you if you see the truth in it or not,
it is up to God. It is not up to me. I am not doing
anything. I am just sitting here and letting God come and give
this truth to you because He chose this vessel to do this.
He is a Spirit. He
cannot just come here and say, “I am here.” Even if He says
it, you cannot see Him. Therefore, He needs a body to come to
humanity, and that is exactly who is giving this Satsang. It
is He coming through.
If you become submissive
to God and let God come through you all the time, you will not be
attached to the result. You will be free from attachments,
egotism, depression, and all of that.
So, the third step was
Christianity. The fourth step was surrendering and submission,
which is the very essence of Islam. Islam comes from the word,
“Tasleim.” It means to be surrendered and submissive to God.
With being surrendered and submissive to God, we are not going to be
attached to the results of our actions, and we are free to do God’s
Will without attachments. Therefore, we will not become
depressed, and all the result of that.
Until this point, we
might become narrow in our approach. We might just like to
direct our attention only to, “My community, my city, my state, my
country, or my earth.” The next step in the Eternal Divine
Path is to become a universalist. It means that God is my
Father and Mother, the universe is my home, and the rest of
humanity, creatures, and beings in the universe are the struggling
beings with me. They are my brothers and sisters.
universalism, you shatter all the narrowness of the mind. You
look at every human as a spirit and an essence of God in them.
You do not see color, you do not see gender, you do not see any
separation between them, and then you will be free from any
narrowness of the mind.
Universalism is the
message of the Baha’is. Bab and Baha’u’llah brought the
teaching that the religions are basically the same, we are all the
children of God, and we have to realize that there is only one God,
one humanity, and we have to come together as His children.
Those are the five steps
Eternal Divine Path: awakening of your spiritual
forces, directing your energy toward the creation of the
Communities of Light, sacrifice, surrendering and submission to
God’s Will, and becoming a universalist.
If you go through those
five steps truly, you will become an Elect, which is the Sixth Seal.
That is where all the Scriptures are talking about, “My Elect will
inherit the earth, will bring My Kingdom to earth.” That is
what we are looking for here. That is why we are here, to call
As I said, it is the time
for sundering. The Elects are going to come and gather to the Mission,
including those also who want to be Elects but maybe are not the
Elects. The others will be sundered, as they are the chaff.
They also, of course, we leave to God. God can do whatever
with them. We do not know what is His Plan. But He said
He is going to gather them together and throw them to the lake of
Now what is the lake of
fire? That is a very interesting question you can ask.
What is the lake of fire? The lake of fire is ignorance.
Ignorance is whatever you think is your understanding of God’s Plan
and it does not include the Eternal Divine Path. That
is from ignorance. It means that is before the
Seventh Angel. And, whatever
is before the
Seventh Angel is not perfect.
Ignorance means having a
little truth and thinking you have the whole truth. That is
really what ignorance means. And, that is the most dangerous
thing, to know a little truth and not know the whole truth.
Of course, the Elects are
the people who will bring the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth, create the
Communities of Light, implement the
Eternal Divine Path, accelerate human progress to the
greatest degree possible, and bring the Golden Age that many, many
people know is coming.
Judeo-Christian-Islamic-Baha’is call it, the Kingdom Of Heaven On
Earth. The Buddhists and Hindus call it, the Golden Age.
We can see all these
things are fulfilled. Everything shows that this is the time.
As Christ said, “When you
see the weather is fair and the sky is red, you know there is going
to be some rain.” That is exactly what is happening right now.
Every sign says, “Yes, this is true, and what we have here is from
We hope that you see this
clearly as many have already seen. Blessed are those whose
hearts are pure and innocent, and they can see it like children.
Like Christ said, I pray to the Father that children can see this so
clearly, yet those who have big intellects and big understandings of
themselves, cannot see. And, that amazes me very much.
So, this is our teaching.
This is the Revelation of the Seven Seals, the unification of the
religions. All are welcome to go to our website, read it,
understand it, and ask questions. If you saw the truth, then
you are a part of us. If you do not see the truth, we leave
you to God.
So, now we will go to the
questions. Go ahead, Dire Wolf. But, please stay on the
topic and do not preach here. Stay on the topic about the Mission.
We appreciate that. Go ahead.
The Dire Wolf:
Yes, actually, I have a question for you this morning, and then I
have a follow-up question. And, I am not here to preach
anything at all.
I was wondering what has
been revealed to you about the classical orthodox view of the
trinity, and, if you could possibly explain the trinity to me, if
there is one. And, then being in its completeness, if that
would be all right, after that I have a follow-up question.
Sure, Dire Wolf. We have explained many times in the Mission
about the trinity and why there is really unity, there is no
separation between them. God is both male and female, but at
the same time, He is beyond both of them.
Therefore, the male part
of God we call “consciousness.” It is the logic of the
universe. The logic of the universe is the consciousness and
that is called, “Father.” The creative force, or three gunas
in our teaching, is the “Mother,” which also is The Holy Ghost, and
which brings the Revelation to the Prophets, and also is present in
the universe and creates everything and all things. Actually,
that is also The Word, the creative force behind all things that all
things have been created by.
Therefore, asyou can see,
there is Father, and the creative force, which is The Holy Ghost,
and they are one. You cannot separate them. It is like
two sides of the same piece of paper. You cannot cut the paper
and say, “OK, I can separate one side from the other.” It is
absolutely impossible to separate them. Father and Mother are
one. Father and The Holy Ghost, God and The Holy Ghost, are
Now, God, the Father and
The Holy Ghost, or the Father and Mother, are Spirit. I should
not say are, because It is really Is, because It is one, there is no
separation. It is a Spirit and therefore, It cannot manifest
Itself to humanity. Therefore, He needs a body, He needs a
person, He needs an individual that can manifest that Spirit through
Usually God will prophesy
for a long, long time before that individual comes. Those
prophecies have been given for the coming of Christ. That
prophecy was given for the coming of Prophet Muhammed. The
prophecy was given for the coming of Bab and Baha’u’llah. And
the prophecy is also given for the coming of this Revelation.
When that person, who
eventually God decides to send to humanity, comes, that person
manifests that Spirit of God through himself to humanity, and he
becomes the Son. That is what the Son means. The Son
brings the perfection.
Also, as God said in
Revelation chapter 23, those who will overcome will become my
sons. If we believe that God came to Mary and made a son, how
about these other sons that He says, “If they overcome, they will be
My sons?” Is God going to be going with other women and make
more sons? Or, did He really mean that whoever overcometh will
become My Sons?
What does that mean?
It means, “Those whose spirit and My Spirit,” become one. As
Christ said, you should become perfect as the Father in heaven.
If you become perfect as the Father, you become a Son of God.
Therefore, Christ was a
channel (not a channel in a sense that the New Agers talk about), a
revealer, a receiver of the revelation from The Holy Ghost and God,
and he brought this to humanity. Therefore, he was a Son of
He and all the Prophets
who have that ability to do that, are the Sons of God. At the
time that they come and they give the Revelation, they bring the
perfect Revelation to humanity. Only those who have fulfilled
the prophecy of God and the Scriptures have this ability to bring
the purest form of the Revelation from God, not anyone else.
That is why the Scripture
and the Word of God, which comes to us, are so important. And,
how do we know if that Scripture is true and the teacher is the
Has he fulfilled the
prophecy? Has he been foretold to come? If he has, and
what he says is based on the Scriptures, therefore, it is from God,
and we have to accept him as the Prophet of God and a Son.
Therefore, you can see how that explanation makes sense.
So, the Father is the
consciousness. The Holy Ghost is the creative force. And
they come through the Son. But when the Son is revealing this
Revelation and is One with the Father and the Creative Force or The
Holy Ghost, they are One. There is no separation.
Father, Son, and The Holy Ghost are One.
So also there are three
apparent separate things in the universe, but in reality there is no
separation. As I said, you, yourself, and God are one.
You are already one with God. There is no separation.
That is the delusion that
a lot of people have, “No, God is up there somewhere sitting on a
throne, I am down here, and we are separated.” That is not
true at all. God is closer to you than yourself. You are
the same thing and one.
So, the Son, when he
brings the revelation to humanity, and the Father, and The Holy
Ghost are one. Therefore, there is no separation. There
is no trinity in the sense of separate things. They are one.
Also, it is true, you can
say there is only one God, so there is no trinity. That is
because there is no separation between these three. They are
I hope this makes sense
to you. Go ahead with your follow-up.
The Dire Wolf:
Now considering that you did say, if I am correct, that there is no
trinity, would you consider then the Trinitarian belief, or
teaching, or tradition, to be hieratical and against God? In
other words, since it is not a truth, or not a reality, as you have
expressed it is not, would that be something that, say, of a
teaching or believing in would be damnable for?
OK Dire Wolf. I did not say that there are not three, or that
is not true. As everything in the Mission, we explain
everything that will make sense to both sides.
Those who say there is
only one God are correct, because consciousness and the creative
force, or The Holy Ghost, and the Son are One. There is no
separation. But, there are three parts of God, or the Messiah,
or the Son of God.
He has to manifest the
Spirit of God, which is consciousness and The Holy Ghost. But,
consciousness and The Holy Ghost is nothing that you can separate
from each other. It is absolutely necessary for them to be
together, and they are.
Therefore, although there
is consciousness and the creative force, but there is not such a
thing that you can take and say, “Here is consciousness, and here is
the creative force. They are separate.” They cannot be.
When they manifest
through the Son, they become Father, Son, and The Holy Ghost.
Which they are correct, they can say that. But, in reality
there is no separation. Therefore, those who believe in the
trinity have to realize that in the trinity there is no separation.
It is only one.
Those who believe there
is only one God, have to realize that God has the consciousness and
the creative forces, and they come through the Son. So it can
be looked at as three, but that three is not something that you can
separate and say, “They are separate beings or things.”
Try to understand what I
am saying. Do not interpret it the way you want to hear it.
If you hear it correctly, I did not say they are wrong. The
trinity people are not wrong. The unity people are not wrong
either. As many things in the
Mission, if you hear the explanation you will see that, “Both
It is just like the
Moslems say that Prophet Muhammed is the last Prophet. He is
the Khatem of the Prophets. The Baha’is say, “No, he was the
Khatam, the crown, or the seal, of the Prophets.”
We say, “You are both
right. He was the last Prophet in the sense that he revealed
the highest spiritual realization, surrendering and submission to
the Will of God. And, he is the seal of the Prophets because
if you look at The Greatest Sign, Islam is at the very top of
The Greatest Sign.” So, both are correct.
If they cannot hear it
and say, “No, you are saying, if they believe he is the seal of the
Prophets, they are not correct,” they did not listen carefully.
If they listened, they would say, “Oh, well, it makes sense.”
So what Maitreya
is saying here, and what God revealed 1,300 years ago to Prophet
Muhammed as Khatem (which can be said Khatem or Khatam, the last
Prophet or the seal of the Prophets) is correct. And, God
meant both of them.
So is the trinity and
unity. God can be looked at as the Father, The Holy Ghost, and
come through the Son. So, the Father, Son, and The Holy Ghost.
But, at the same time, there is no separation.
Go ahead, Cog.
You talked about sacrifice. And the Messiah that is supposed
to come is supposed to rebuild the Temple, at least that is from the
Jewish standpoint. As I was thinking about that, and then Esa
is the Christ, or Esa as you use, that would not be acceptable to
Judaism. And, there was another part of the question. I
will let you answer those and then I will come back with that part.
Cog, I do not think that anyone got the question here completely,
what you mean. You are saying, when the Messiah comes he is
supposed to build the Temple. And if he doesn’t, the Jewish
people will not accept him? Is that the question?
Yes, Judaism says that the Messiah will rebuild the temple.
And, you talked about sacrifice. What sort of sacrifice are
you talking about, do you mean for the Mission? I had
the other part of the question, but I did not write it down.
That is OK. Just think about it and write it down while I am
answering your question.
Well actually, we do have a Temple that
includes all the religions of the world and unifies them in one
building, as a Temple. Each door will have a door for each
religion to enter. When they enter, at the very center they
are one. There is no separation between them.
We have people in the
Mission who are Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Moslems,
and even Baha’is. But, they do not call each other by these
categories. They all believe that they are not these anymore.
They are just the children of God. And they are getting along
just fine. They are not at each other’s throats or trying to
kill each other. This is the peace. This is the
foretelling of the coming of the peace on earth.
About the Temple, I hope
one day we can build our Temple in Jerusalem and eventually, every
religion can come to Jerusalem as an international city and each
person can enter their religion from that side. There is the
wailing wall, the Jewish area. There is a Christian area, a
Moslem area, and a Baha’i area in that city.
So if we can make a kind
of Temple that connects all of them, and then in the center they can
all come and see, “God said He is going to send this Revelation and
unify them, and really there is no separation between them,” and if
each of them understands what was the Message God was sending to
them, they will realize that they are brothers and sisters.
They should get along, share whatever they have, and would not fight
as they are doing. If they continue fighting, of course, I am
afraid we will have a lot of suffering that will come to humanity.
If humanity accepted our
teaching today (that I doubt they will) but if they accepted this
today, we will have peace tomorrow. However, there is a lot of
destructive energy on earth, a lot of ego, a lot of competition, and
also a lot of belief that is based on political maneuvering and all
of that, that they just cannot accept our teaching and say, “Yes, it
But God said His Kingdom
will come, so His Kingdom will. Unfortunately, however, it
sounds like humanity has to go through a very rough time before that
So, indeed, the
will build a Temple, eventually, in Jerusalem. But not
according to the Jews, not according to the Christians, or Hindus,
or Buddhists, but according to God.
Then the Jewish people
will realize, “Yes, maybe they have some truth. Yes, when the
Messiah comes, when the Revealer of the Seven Seals comes, when the
last Revelation comes, the Temple will be built but it will include
everyone on earth.”
If they do not accept it,
they are going to go ahead and fight with Moslems. The Moslems
are going to fight with Christians. The Christians are going
to fight with Hindus and Buddhists. And, the mess we have on
our hands will continue as it is.
So the prophecy is
fulfilled. There is a Temple that God has given to humanity to
be built. It is ready to go. I am hoping that eventually
we will build many of them all over the world, and humanity will
come, join, and see that they are one.
What kind of sacrifice?
Sacrifice depends upon your ability, your mission, your dedication,
and your want. How long, how much, do you want to sacrifice?
You can sacrifice by just
coming to the Mission room twice a day and do your prayer
with us. That is a sacrifice. You could be doing
something else. You could do something else that you like to
do. But, you might have to drag yourself from the world and
come to this room.
That is what those
rituals are for, your ability to drag yourself away from the world
and say, “I am not going to let the world get me. I want to go
towards God, come here, and be with Godly people.” That is one
sacrifice you can do. That is sacrifice.
You can go all the way,
dedicate yourself to the Mission as some people have, become
a teacher, or supporter of the center, or a contact. The
greater your sacrifice and your ability to see the Mission,
the beauty of it, and how much you want to do for God, the closer
you will come to God. It is as simple as that.
If you want to keep your
will and your life the way you want it, of course, you will have
your will and your life, but you will not be closer to God.
The more you sacrifice, the more you follow the Eternal Divine
Path, the closer you will come to the Spirit.
I hope that makes sense
Go ahead, Cog.
Thanks. Will this all be fulfilled in your lifetime?
be realized while we are still alive? And, also, the other one
was a comment on what Dire Wolf was saying about the trinity.
You talked about The Holy Spirit. That Jesus said the
comforter, that was to come, I should say The Holy Spirit, that you
said before that it was Muhammed. So, would you verify that,
because before you just said in another Satsang that it was Muhammed
that was the one who was Khatam and not The Holy Spirit. But,
now it sounds like you are saying the other, opposite, about The
Your first question, will the Mission be realized while I am
still alive? We believe in reincarnation. I have
promised to my disciples and organization that I shall return.
So killing me, or doing anything like that, is not going to work.
It is not going to help.
I am going to come back
and say, “Here I am,” with the Seven Seals and the Revelation and
the Eternal Divine Path. Therefore, the arrangement has
been made that when I leave my body, my disciples and those who are
in the Mission will be looking for me to return and continue
what we are doing.
So, it is not a
that will end by me leaving my body. It is an open-ended
Mission, and we will continue this until the formation of the
hierarchy from the Communities of Light, and the coming of
the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth.
Then I can leave my body
peacefully and not return because then I do not have to be here.
Communities of Light have been created, the Kingdom Of Heaven
is on earth, and therefore I do not have to come back. Then,
of course, I will return each time that set-up will not work and my
presence is needed.
So, will it happen in my
lifetime or not? It does not make any difference to the
because we know that no one dies. You cannot kill anyone.
The spirit is forever. It is impossible to kill or destroy the
As the Bhagavad-Gita
says, “He who kills and the person who thinks he is killed, both are
in ignorance,” because you cannot kill the spirit. It moves on
and lives on.
Therefore, the end of the
Mission is not by me leaving my body. This Mission
is a continual Mission. Not only I, but my disciples
also, and those who are in the Mission, when they leave their
bodies, they are going to return. And each time they return, a
few more people will be added to it, and added to it, and added to
it, until eventually, we will reach a point that everyone will
realize that God is One. There is One Religion, One Humanity,
under One God, and therefore, we have to bring His Kingdom on earth.
I hope that answers your
question about the organization and when it is going to be
fulfilled. It will eventually be fulfilled. God said it
would be fulfilled, so it will.
Your next question about
The Holy Spirit... I did not say that The Holy Spirit is
Prophet Muhammed. That is what the Moslems say. Probably
you have heard it in another room and you thought that was me who
said that. It has never been said here, or in our teaching, or
in THOTH, ever, anywhere in the whole world, that we
said that the comforter is Prophet Muhammed.
That is the Moslem
understanding of the comforter. Our belief of why Prophet
Muhammed is a part of the Eternal Divine Path, is based
mostly on the promises that God gave to Abram and Abraham.
Abram was the father of
Ishmael, and his wife (or the person that Ishmael was conceived
with) was Hagar. Therefore, all the promises He gave for Abram
were for Ishmael. He gave the promise of the scepter, which is
the kingly spiritual domination, and He gave the birthright, or the
physical or worldly possession. He fulfilled both of them.
He gave a land, which was without end, not with a beginning or an
The children of Ishmael
are, of course, the Arabs who eventually covered all the way from
Saudi Arabia to part of the Middle East, to North Africa, to Spain,
and from Spain to South America. So, you can see that God gave
them a big, huge chunk of real estate on earth.
Then God changed the name
of Abram to Abraham and then He said, not only is your name going to
be Abraham, also your wife’s name is going to be Sarah, instead of
Sarai. Sarai means princess. Sarah means our princess.
So, it is more than one.
Then God gave the
promises for Isaac, and later on to Jacob, because Jacob received
both the birthright and the kingly scepter. God promised Isaac
many, many nations, which later on they became the Children of
Israel. The Children of Israel later on were divided into two
nations, the southern nation, or Jews, and the northern nation, or
the House of Israel.
Actually, the first time
Bible, the first time you read the name Jews, is when they
were in a war with the House of Israel, in the Northern Kingdom,
which they were from the same tribes. Later on the House of
Israel, the northern tribes, were taken away and were scattered.
According to our teaching, they ended up in the north side, close to
the Caspian Sea, and eventually, Russia, Europe, England, and the
So you can see that God
also gave the Children of Isaac a very big area until the United
States and this Mission came right in the border of North
America and South America, which are the Children of Israel and the
Children of Ishmael.
Because God gave the
promise of the scepter, or Messiah, or the Prophet, to both Ishmael
and Isaac, therefore, both Christ and Prophet Muhammed had been
promised to Abraham and Abram to come. Therefore, it clearly
shows that God meant to send both Prophets.
If Jews, Christians, and
Moslems just understand this part, we have united half of humanity
together. It is right there in your Bible. Go
He promised first to
Abram, the same material possession and scepter. Then He
promised to Isaac the same thing. So that is the reason we
believe that God promised Prophet Muhammed will come as the Prophet
and not, because Christ said the comforter will come.
What that means is, you
can have the interpretation as the Moslems have it, that he meant
Prophet Muhammed as the comforter. Prophet Muhammed as the one
who bring a new revelation to comfort The Elects (all Prophets do
that). Because of this they (Muslims) believe that Muhammed
was the One Christ predicted to come (since he came after Christ).
can say that He meant when later on The Holy Ghost came over the
disciples, and that is what he meant by the comforter.
So, it is up to you, you
can interpret it either way. But, none of them is that
important. The most important is what is the message of
Christ, and it was sacrifice.
I hope that makes sense.
Go ahead, Cog.
Well, you mentioned Aiesha, she was one of Muhammed’s wives. I
believe she was only 9 years old when he married her, which today
that is consider child molestation. Also, he had many wives.
How do you rectify the standing of the Mission, which is
marriage with one man, one woman, to religions with polygamy, and
then also with Muhammed, he is a Prophet, having married a woman, or
a girl, at the age of 9? How do you rectify that?
Well, if we are going according to your understanding, then we have
to forget about Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob also. All of them
married more than one wife, and they were polygamists. We
should just put them all in prison, and tell them they were no good.
Therefore, it is a
cultural thing that you believe that there should be one wife and
one husband. Even in this culture, the Mormons do not believe
in that, at least they did not for a while.
Polygamy has been with us
all through history. Even in this culture, in the United
States, many men have a mistress and they pay for it. They
rent an apartment or something for their mistress while they have
Also, it was a matter of
making a lot more children. If there is one man and many
wives, you can make many children. But, if there is one woman
and many husbands, still you are not going to have as many children
as the other way around.
So it is a cultural
understanding, something that has been taught to you, to believe
that polygamy is evil. As I said, if that is evil, then
Abraham was evil, and Isaac was evil, because all of them had more
than one wife. There is a story that even Christ had more than
one wife, Mary and Martha, as they are mentioned many times in the
Bible. So we have to examine our understandings with the
reality of the world, and also realize that there are some things
that we have learned in our culture that we believe is correct.
Of course, the best way
for a marriage is that it should be a man and a woman, and they
should stay together, be faithful, and base their lives on God, as
our teaching emphasizes. But, polygamy has been with humanity
all along. It has never been considered by God as evil.
But, He says that the best way is one man and one woman.
Now Aiesha was a child of
one of Prophet Muhammed’s close disciples. He wished that they
be married. Although she was young when they were betrothed
together, the marriage was not consummated until later on.
In those cultures, unless
the woman receives her first monthly period, she is not accepted as
a woman. When that happens, she is considered as mature and
able to marry. Therefore, I believe that also probably
happened in that case, and they did not consummate their marriage
until she was around thirteen or fourteen years old.
So again that is a
misconception, something that I have seen a lot of Christians write
in the many rooms, “Hey, he was a child molester. He was a
pedophile,” and all of that. That is a big sin that you call
the Prophet of God a pedophile, and that is a big karma.
meditate, understand, realize, and see that God said both Prophet
Muhammed and Christ will come as the Prophet of God, and do not just
accept anything you hear. Especially after you heard my
explanation, you should realize that that is a big sin to call the
Prophet of God a pedophile.
Also, it is based on your
cultural understanding, not on God’s point of view. God never,
ever said that polygamy is evil.
Go ahead, Cog.
Thank you. I got that from an Islamic chat room [laughing].
No one could answer that one. Gosh, now I lost my question.
I am sorry. I got my mind on that and now I lost my question.
And, I know it was a good one. I will have to raise my hand
OK, we have around forty more minutes left in our Satsang room.
We can finish it here, or we can meditate, and if anyone has a
question, you can raise your hand. While we are in the
meditation, if something came to your mind that you would like to
know the answer and would like to ask it, go ahead.
OK Cog, go ahead again.
It is about the Law of God that came on Mt. Sinai. Moses was
never considered higher than the message, which was the Law, the Ten
Commandments. You know, you should not have any other Gods
before me. I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not make unto
thee graven images. You should keep the Sabbath day Holy.
You should not take the name of the Lord your God your in vain.
Thou shalt not commit adultery. Thou shalt not commit murder.
Thou shalt not bear false witness, shalt not covet thy neighbor’s
wife, thy neighbor’s house, or any kind of thing.
So how do you keep these
Ten Commandments and teach your disciples to keep the Commandments?
For, you know, these are everlasting covenants that the Lord God has
made with not only Israel but with the whole world because the Law
came from Mt. Sinai for everyone. And, all the laws that we
have are based upon the Commandments. How do you keep these
Actually, in reality, it was the Fifteen Commandments, not Ten
Commandments. Five of them were broken before they reached the
Children of Israel.
That is what we have, the
Fifteen Commandments. Those are probably the only Laws that
were brought to humanity through the Mission in a more direct
way. Other things, in a very spiritual way, have been given to
humanity. They were given to humanity to follow.
Humanity has the free
will. It is a good thing, and it is a bad thing. It is a
good thing because you have to choose to go to God. Everything
in the universe follows God’s Way. A flower cannot say, “No, I
am not going to grow as God wants me to grow. I am going to
grow in a different way.” Or, a cat says, “I am going to go
and marry a dog.” It cannot. It just does not happen.
But, humans have the
ability to choose their way. That is what is such a wonderful
thing about humans. They decide to go to God. That is
why the human is such a wonderful being. God gave them the
free will. Now they choose to go to God.
Which is better? An
animal, which has no free will, they have to obey God, or the one
who has the free will and says, “No, I am going to come to You?”
Of course, the one who has the free will and still chooses to go to
God and follow His Words instead of following his or her desires.
So we can see that free
will is given to humanity, and that is why the Ten Commandments or
the Fifteen Commandments were given. They say, “Do these
things as your Lord’s Commandments.” Well, do you love your
Lord so much that you will say, “I will listen to Him?” Or, do
you say, “Well, maybe I will not listen completely. I will
listen fifty percent.”
Fifty percent makes you a
lukewarm. And, God said, “I do not like lukewarms.” He
likes 100% dedicated people who completely dedicate their lives and
beings toward Him. It is just as Christ said, “Love your God
with all your heart, mind, and being,” then you will go to Him.
But Christ did not say
that he would make you to love your God with all your heart, mind,
and spirit. It is up to you to decide to do that. It is
the same thing for the Fifteen Commandments or the Ten Commandments.
God has given them to you. Do you want to follow them or not?
One person said, “I
realized the beauty of the Ten Commandments after I started
following them.” See how they make life wonderful, easy,
beautiful, and fantastic.
So, these Laws are
actually not for God. They are for you and me. If we
follow them, we will reap the fruit and beauty of them. The
Eternal Divine Path is not for God. It is for you and me.
If we follow it, if we walk it, we will reap of beauty of it.
So, the free will is
given to you. That is why I said, “This is not a cult.” I
respect your free will. But, your free will, by choosing the
wrong path, has consequences. You can go to the brink of the
cliff and say, “Well, I choose to just jump over the cliff.” I
am going to tell you that if you jump, you are going to be hurt.
You might be killed. You might break all your bones.
But, eventually, if you decide to do it, no one can prevent you from
So, the human has the
free will, but God gives you the result of your free will. If
you choose not to go to God, you will fall into Maya, to the world.
And you will be drowned into the world, and you will suffer because
of it. But you choose to do it. God already told you not
to go that way.
It is like you tell a
little child, “If you touch the stove, you are going to get burned.”
But he chooses to touch the stove. Will he be burned? He
has the ability. We told him not to do that but he chose to
follow that and he fell.
Commandments, the Eternal Divine Path, the Revelation, all
these, came to humanity. God also gave humans the free will to
follow it, or not. Your choosing will result in what you reap.
If you follow God 100%,
you will not create any karma, you will not create any sin. If
you will follow the Ten Commandments, you will receive The Grace,
which makes it so easy to follow God’s Laws. Most people have
a problem to follow God’s Laws because they are not in The Grace.
Actually, Grace is the
Law. There is no separation. If you have The Grace, you
follow the Law, no problem. If you do not have The Grace, the
Law is so difficult to do and follow.
That is why some people
say, “Christ came and he brought The Grace, we do not need the Law.”
That is not correct, absolutely not. If you have The Grace,
you absolutely will not break the Law because in Grace, you are in
Law, and in Law, you will receive The Grace.
So there is no separation
between the two. If you want to receive The Grace, you have to
follow God’s Ten Commandments and Fifteen Commandments, and His
I hope that makes sense.
Go ahead, Lou.
Sal-OM Maitreya. This is the reading from THOTH,
page 558, concerning the subconscious mind. I think that in
the third paragraph, “The goal is to eradicate that part.” How
does one eradicate that part?
Well, through meditation, through realization… Many times, I
have talked about the dark creatures in our beings. These dark
creatures have the control over our lives. They tell us what
It is just like the
explanation of Krishna’s chariot with five wild horses connected to
it. These wild horses are pulling the chariot in different
directions, and the driver in the chariot has no control, while God
is sitting behind the driver, just looking, and smiling that, why
the driver cannot control the horses.
That is exactly how most
people’s lives are. They are controlled with these senses,
which externally pulls them toward the external world, touch, taste,
sight, and all these senses. It is just like wild horses, they
are pulling us toward the external world.
The part that tells us
how to use these senses is our subconscious mind, which is the place
of the karma from this lifetime and previous lifetimes, which we
store in the subconscious mind. Therefore, the subconscious
mind tells us how to react and work in the external world.
How you can eradicate
this subconscious mind is by knowing yourself, by gaining control
over your senses, by following the Commandments of God, and by not
accepting whatever the senses tell you to do. The fastest way,
of course, is the
Eternal Divine Path. You meditate in the Communities
of Light. You direct your energy toward the creation of
the Communities of Light. Therefore, you live with a
couple of other people.
It is very easy if you
live in an apartment, if you live in your house with your wife or
your husband and children, than living in a Community of Light
with five other couples, or more people around you. After
awhile those people see right through you. They know you
inside and out. They will let you know what your problems are.
Therefore, you will progress much faster.
One thing in the
Communities of Light is that each person should help the other
people to progress physically, mentally, and spiritually. So
your progress will accelerate a hundred times when you are in the
I used to tell a story
about a yogi who was at the top of the mountain and meditating by
himself. At the top of the mountain, he thought that he was a
great yogi, that he had realized all these things. He was so
calm. He was so collected. He was so wonderful.
When anyone came, he smiled at them, helped them, and all of that.
One day he had to go to
town. He had no choice. He went to town, and the first
person who pushed him, he became very angry. He suddenly
pushed the other person back and said, “What are you doing? I
am a great yogi.”
Suddenly he realized,
“Wow, what happened to me? What happened to that calm mind and
all of that?” He had lost it.
The reason was that it is
easy to be at the top of the mountain and think you are great.
But come and live in a community. Then you suddenly see, “What
is this junk coming out of me? I had no idea about that!”
So you can see that
Communities of Light is not just living together. It is a
very accelerating process of seeing yourself. The more you see
of yourself, the less subconscious mind has power over you, because
you become aware of those forces that tell you to do things that you
really do not want to do, and you feel bad about them after you do
them. The more you know yourself, the more you gain control
over your subconscious mind and become closer to God, which is the
unconscious mind, therefore, you become the self and the unconscious
mind. There is no subconscious between. That
subconscious mind is the real problem, the real ego, the real thing
that causes humanity to go astray and creates habits.
Another way to dissolve
the subconscious mind is to look at your habits, look at your life.
You will see there is going to be a pattern that is going to happen
over, and over, and over again.
I am sure you have heard
someone say, “If I leave this area and go somewhere else, I am going
to be OK. I just hate this area. This is the problem.”
They go to another area. A couple of months later, they hate
that area too. What happened? You said that if you leave
the first area, you will be OK.
No, the problem is that
you took the baggage with you when you left one area to go to
another area. That was your subconscious mind. It was
not the area. It was not the place you lived. It was you.
You are taking it with you [laughing]. It has nothing to do
with other people around you, or where you are.
It is inside you.
You are the problem. The environment is not the problem.
Do not blame anyone else. Learn yourself. If there is a
problem, you are the problem.
So, that is the subconscious mind.
A lot of humans look for getting rid of the subconsciousness
everywhere else but within themselves. They blame everyone
else. They see everyone is against them.
Some people even become paranoid, and
they think that everyone is plotting against them. They really
believe this. But really no one is plotting against them.
They are plotting against themselves. Therefore, meditation,
awareness, realization, reading Satsangs, living in the
Communities of Light, desiring to know yourself, and also
breaking the habits will dissolve the subconscious mind.
You can see that some people involve
themselves in bad relationships all the time. They say, “OK if
I can get out of this bad relationship, the next one is going to be
OK.” The next one turns out to be the same thing over again
and déjà vu. Their whole life actually is a déjà vu. It
happens over and over. If you become more aware of these
patterns in your life, more and more you realize, “Yes, look at
that. I am doing the same thing over and over.”
There is a book, I think
it is called Self Analysis, that is very helpful. It is
a psychological book. It talks about dreams. If you
dream something, wake up, write it down, and then analyze it.
You can break it down.
That is because dreams
are three kinds. Some dreams are nonsense. If you eat
too much and you sleep, you might have a nonsense dream. It
has no meaning. There are dreams that are from the
subconscious mind. Those dreams are trying to give you a
message. They are trying to tell you, “That is how you solve
So psychology is also a
part of the Mission, and we do not throw it away. If
you analyze your dreams, little by little, if you understand what
the message is, you might see these patterns in your life and
eventually overcome them.
Some people probably are
shy. “Why am I shy? Yes, I was shy yesterday when I was
talking to these people. Oh yes, two days ago, a month ago,
six months ago, a year, two years, and ten years ago.”
Suddenly you realize that there is a pattern in your life. You
have been shy all your life. Why?
You go deeper and deeper
and you realize it could be from this life. It could be from
the previous life. You have been put down from childhood, so
you became shy and you do not have confidence, or whatever.
There are many ways to
understand your subconscious mind. Probably the best way is to
use all these techniques together. Also, put light on this
subconscious mind with these creatures that control your life.
These creatures, this
subconscious mind, have been in control of your life all along to
this point. Suddenly you close your eyes, you start
meditating, you try to understand your subconscious mind, and you
try to overcome it. Do you think they will let go easily?
No, they say, “We have been in control. Why do you want the
control? What was wrong with you? We are the creatures
that control your life.”
That is when you say,
“No, I am the boss, I am not going to let you control my life.”
Know thyself, shed light on the bad habits, and little by little,
you will succeed. It might take time, but you will success.
The fastest way is the
Eternal Divine Path. Believe me, the answer to all human
problems is the Eternal Divine Path. God was sending
this to humanity step-by-step in all religions. Now we have
discussed it here in the
Mission. Anything we looked at, any problem in the
society, personal or impersonal, can be resolved with the Eternal
Divine Path and the realization of this wonderful Revelation
that God has sent to humanity.
Of course, we believe
also that psychology will help. But the greatest is the deeper
level by meditation and realizing that some of the problems are not
coming only from your childhood in this lifetime but are coming from
the karma from your previous lifetimes.
I hope that makes sense
to you, Lou.
Go ahead, Cog.
Would you talk about the Eternal Divine Path, what is it
Then I wanted you to
comment about reincarnation here, not that I believe it.
Everyone would be a polygamist if it was true.
I hope you do not get
lost in my train of thinking which is kind of sporadic because I
only have this much time on the mic. There is a Catholic
mystic, Saint Theresa of Babbala, and she talked about diamonds with
all these beasts around the outside and her journey within to find
God within her. Anyway, I wanted to make a comment about that,
which is similar to what you are saying. Have you read her?
Cog, I thought you had been in our room many times. I have
Eternal Divine Path. Ma, and other people in the room
during the week explained the Eternal Divine Path. Are
you listening [laughing]?
The Eternal Divine
is based on The Greatest Sign. It is the five steps:
awakening of your spiritual forces, directing the energy to create
the Communities of Light, sacrificing, surrendering and
submission, and becoming a universalist. The first, awakening
of your spiritual forces, is all the Mystical Paths, which includes
all the paths that teach, “Know thyself to know God,” and “Be still
and know that I am God.” This includes Hinduism, Buddhism,
Cabbala, Saints in Christianity, Sufism, and any other path that
teaches to meditate and know thyself. Actually, just my
explanation about the creatures is a way to know thyself. That
is the first step in the
Eternal Divine Path.
The next is the creation
Communities of Light, which is the Old Testament.
Old Testament is based on creation of the communities, or the
tribes of Israel, which accept God as their God and follow His Laws.
To create such a
community, sacrifice is necessary. That was the message of
Christ, to sacrifice, not being self-centered, not saying, “What is
in it for me,” all the time.
And then the next step is
surrendering and submission to God. This is the ability to
surrender the result to God so that you are not attached to the
result, or submission, which means God is doing it through you.
So you are free from the result anyway, which is Islam.
The next step is
universalism, shattering all the narrowness of the mind and
directing all your energy, teaching, and effort toward the whole
universe. Therefore, you are not narrow with any “ism,” or
separating any part of the universe from anything else. That
is the teaching of Bab and Baha’u’llah.
With going through these
five steps, which is the Eternal Divine Path… Remember,
the Eternal Divine Path is five steps. I just explained
it to you. I hope you got it this time.
You can go to our
website. We have told you many times, “Go to our website.”
It is all explained there. You will learn a lot there.
Do that, and you will be blessed with the teaching, and you will
know what the Eternal Divine Path is.
If you follow the
Eternal Divine Path, then you become an Elect. That is
what God is trying to say in His Scriptures that, “My Elect will
inherit the earth.” And He talks about His Elects all the
If you want to be an
Elect, follow the Eternal Divine Path. Realize that all
these religions have come from the same God. Do not stay a
Catholic for the rest of your life because that is no longer
accepted. The accepted Path is the Eternal Divine Path
and the Revelation is the Revelation of all religions and the
I hope that makes sense.
We have someone here who has a question.
Maitreya-ji, I just had a question about stubbornness.
One thing I have notice about everyone who becomes involved with the
Mission, is that we are so stubborn. All of us are really
stubborn. And, even in the Old Testament, it talks
about, “My people are stiff-necked.” But, how can we turn that
stubborn tendency to be more positive for the Mission?
Is there something good in being stubborn [laughter]?
I guess being stubborn is a part of the spirit of pioneers. If
you are a pioneer, you have to be stubborn. Just imagine the
people who first came to this country, if they were not stubborn,
did not have perseverance, and would not give up easily, could they
have succeeded? If they had given up with the first Indian
attack, or with the first problem in the forests, or with the
creation of the communities, cutting trees, and building houses,
roads, and all of that, they would not have come and prospered.
So being a pioneer
involves being stubborn. Probably if you are a coward, if you
are not stubborn, you would not be here, and also as you have
mentioned, God said, “My people are peculiar people.” And
[laughter] we indeed are peculiar, because we are not the norm.
We did not accept our parent’s religions and say, “Oh, OK.”
If we had accepted our parent’s
religions, I would be a Moslem, you would be a Christian, she would
be a Jew, and probably our son would be something else, and all
that. So, we can see that that we all have not accepted the
norm. Actually, the Elects are a peculiar people. They
are not in the norm of the regular “9 to 5” mode.
They have a great feeling
that they have a Mission. They have come here for a
reason. It is not just a regular life to come here to eat,
sleep, make children, and die. You would not be satisfied with
Not that something is
wrong with that. That is what 99% of humans do. They
come, they eat, they make children, and then they die. They
are very happy and satisfied. They are doing a good job, and
that is what they were created for. That is fine!
If you come here for a
reason, for a mission, you know that you are not going to be
satisfied with the regular life. You will be attracted to
search, to look, to understand, and eventually hit to the Mission
of Maitreya and say, “Ah, that makes sense. That is what I
was meant for!”
Actually, you already
know our teaching when you come to the Mission. That is
why it is said, “The Master comes when you already know.” For
many lifetimes you have been a Jew, you have been a Christian, you
have been a Hindu, you have been a Buddhist, so you cannot just mold
yourself in one religion.
They come and tell you
that God is called “Allah.” He is up there, and He is angry
all the time. You ask yourself, “Why? Why is He up
there? Why is He not down here? Why?” You just
keep asking questions. You are not satisfied. Eventually
you say, “Well, probably there is no such thing as God because even
those people who say they are Moslem, or believe in Allah, are not
really following their teaching as good as they preach, as their
religion says they should.” Most of them do not know what
their religions really are.
Then you just reject God
and say, “Probably He does not exist,” and you become an atheist or
something like that.
Of course, if God wants
you, He gets you as He got me, or probably got all of us. So
we can see that, yes, God’s people are peculiar, they are stubborn,
and they will not give up easily. We have seen that when every
religion came, the followers, especially the first ones, were very
stubborn, very one-pointed, and very strong.
So you are absolutely
right. How can we make that stubbornness for the Mission?
Probably bring a little Grace to it and meditate on The Grace of
God. Be stubborn, but gracefully be stubborn.
Be a gracefully stubborn
person. I do not know what that means [laughter] but probably
you can bring more Grace into our teaching. Let humanity know
that we are wonderful people. We love them, and our example
may become a great inspiration for them. They will realize,
“Yes, maybe my religion is not as great as I thought it was.
Maybe these people have something that we do not.” And they
will desire to join God’s Work.
Does that make sense?
Go ahead, Lou.
My wife wants to know the ethnic background of Abraham, the Hebrews,
and Esa and his disciples.
Actually, Abraham was a Persian. He lived in South Iraq and
that was under the influence of the Persian Empire. The
Persians themselves are a group that came from Europe. They
are the race of Aryans that are well known.
Of course, Hitler used
that as an excuse for his way. But the truth is that they came
from Europe, and they became two branches. One of them went to
north India, and one came from the northwest of Iran, entered
Persia, and eventually traveled all the way to the south and Iraq.
They mixed with the
natives, who were darker skinned people. So that is why the
Middle Eastern people have a darker complexion than white but not as
dark as blacks. And in India also, if you look at north India,
the Indians are whiter there, and the southern Indians are darker.
We know that the
continent of India was separated from Africa, went underneath the
continent of Asia and pushed it up. All the mountains of the
Himalayans were created because of that.
So the people who came
with that piece of land were blacks. And then the Aryans came
at the north of India, and they mixed with the blacks. One of
their leaders was Shiva, who married an Aryan woman who was white,
and they created a new race and religion there.
The branch of the Aryans,
who came from Europe and went to Iran, later on founded a new
religion by the name, Zoroastrian, and its founder was Zoroaster.
Actually, Zoroaster seems to be the first Prophet who brought the
concepts of one God, and good and evil, to humanity. He also
predicted that good and evil were going to fight to the end.
At the end, good would prevail and evil would be destroyed.
Later on, there was a concept of the
coming of the Messiah. One branch of the Zoroastrians became
Mithraism. The idea of the Mithra is the one who would come
and be born from a virgin, and he would be the savior of the world.
So you can see a similarity between that idea and Christianity right
there, that Christ was born from a virgin, and he is the savior of
the world, and all that.
Later on, in south Iraq, Abraham
founded Judaism, or the Hebrew religion. He was Persian.
And you can see the amazingly close similarity between his teaching
and the Zoroastrian religion.
Later on, Assyria carried the Jews from
the land and brought them to Iraq. Then the Persian Empire
conquered Iraq and the Assyrians, and the Persian Empire already
knew that those people were from Persia.
That is why Cyrus brought them to Iran,
helped them a lot, made them actually very prominent citizens in
Iran, and eventually helped them to build a temple in Jerusalem.
So that completely shows that Cyrus knew that the Jewish people were
Abraham also had Ishmael.
Therefore, both Hebrews and Arabs have Persian blood in them.
Christ was from the Jewish background; therefore, you can see even
Christ had some Persian blood in him.
Later on, from the coming of the
Hebrews to Iran, my ancestors evolved from King David to Nadir Shah.
I am from the tribe of Judah. So that is another prophecy
fulfilled that this teacher, or this Revelation, would come from
Actually, this Revelation is the
accumulation of all the previous prophecies and has fulfilled every
prophecy that every religion was expecting for their teacher to
fulfill. Therefore, this is fulfilled also. My ancestry
is from King David and Adam. Also my ancestry goes to Prophet
Muhammed. Therefore, that is also fulfilled for the Moslems
that are waiting for this to come from Prophet Muhammed.
So Abraham, as I previously said, had
Persian blood, and was Persian. Also, Christ was from the same
Does that make sense? I hope so.
Go ahead, Cog.
Well, there is a blood test that you can take if there are 12 DNA
markers that will prove without doubt your ancestry of
Jewish ancestry. But you need to have a blood test taken for
about $250 that will identify you by your DNA exactly.
I wanted to ask, what was the
covenant that you are going to make with the world? I guess it
was my understanding that you talked about a covenant that you make
with your disciples. What is the covenant? And, that
Divine Seal, is that a part of the covenant? Please understand
I have my own understanding of things. Maybe I do not like the
Mission talks about, but it
is interesting to come here and I appreciate your answering my
questions and putting up with me, even though you bounced me for a
long time and banned me. I appreciate your letting me back.
I guess that is all I have to say.
Well, if your question were not so scattered, Cog, it would be much
easier and faster to be answered.
About the blood test and
finding that your ancestry is Jewish, I am not sure that the study
that has been done is correct and the people who did it really were
unbiased in the way they did it. So, I do not have too much
faith in that.
I communicated about it
to the people who have done this DNA testing and I asked them a
couple of questions. They could not answer these questions.
And the people who have done it are people who really wanted to
believe what they came up with. There are studies. You
have to be very careful about these studies that they come up with
conclusions that they already have made up their minds the way it
should be, and that is the way it will be.
About my covenant with my
disciples, I had no choice when I received the Mission.
I had to start the
I had to do it. I had to drop everything, my life, my job, my
education, my background, my nationality, my religion, and
everything. If you read that lecture, “How He Became
Maitreya” that one of the people here gave about how I became
Maitreya, I had only ten cents in my pocket, and I did not even
have a visa to stay in this country, and on and on. You can
read that, how it happened. But, still, I did not have any
So those who come to the
Mission, see the Revelation is correct, see the prophecies
are fulfilled, eventually realize it is from God, and know they have
a mission, they will realize that they have no choice also but to be
Mission and do the Will of God. And they will let me
know that, “Yes, it is my
and that they have no choice. And, they will make a covenant
with me. That exchange will become a covenant between them and
me, and they will become a part of the
They become my brothers and co-workers, and we will start working
together toward the establishment of the Kingdom. So, that is
how it works.
Usually most of the
people who come here, from their childhood knew that they have a
mission to do. They have talked to God that, “Yes, I want to
do Your mission, I love You,” and all of that. They have no
choice. They are not narrowed. They do not like any
specific religion or dogma. But they want the truth, they
found it, and they say, “Yes, that is it.”
Go ahead, Izy.
Does Maitreya sin?
No, Maitreya does not sin. He is sinless. He has
been sinless. He will be sinless forever. Therefore, you
cannot say Maitreya
sins at all. No, no, he does not sin, especially when God
comes through. And even when God does not come through,
Maitreya does not sin.
Go ahead, Lou.
Maitreya, could I have clarification on the Shiva thing.
You said Shiva married an Aryan. Was she black and female?
No. Shiva was a native of India. He had the dark skin.
He was black. He used to meditate. Most of the people
who meditated went to the rooms, and they were very comfortable or
they were in places. He would go to the graveyards and
actually put the skulls around himself or have a necklace of skulls.
So, he was very mysterious.
He is the founder of
Tantra meditation and Tantra Yoga in India. Tantra yoga still
is shrouded with mystery and a lot of mystical realizations.
Even in the West, it reached a point that they think Tantra means
sexual relationship. That is the only thing they have seen in
Tantra. However, that is not what the meaning of Tantra is.
Tantra is the ability to stay in the middle of the controversy and
destruction and not be affected by it at all.
So we can see that is
absolutely different than what they teach in the West about Tantra
meditation. Shiva was the founder of that path.
He was actually a prince.
He married an Aryan woman. Marriage between a native Indian
and an Aryan who came from Europe was very rare, because their
culture was so different. Then it seems like it was the first
marriage between the two cultures that occurred through Shiva.
That created a new trend in India. Eventually, the two races
mixed and made northern India, which is whiter, and southern India,
which is darker skinned.
I hope that answered your
Go ahead, Ya Sahibuz
Zaman. Are you the Medhi, Ya Sahibuz Zaman?
Ya Sahibuz Zaman:
[he wrote in text] I have many questions. No microphone here.
Usually I do not get answers to my questions here, and I get
red-dotted anyway. But here is the question.
OK, YaSahibuz Zaman. I heard you have a lot of questions and
they never end or something. The people are telling me that
you have endless questions. Go ahead. Anyway, we are out
of time, but go ahead and ask your question.
Ya Sahibuz Zaman:
Not everyone can be him.
Not everyone can be whom? Do you mean, not everyone can be the
Messiah, Muhammed, or, not everyone can be whom?
Ya Sahibuz Zaman:
Baha’u’llah said there would not be any more prophets after him for
up to 1,000 years. How do you explain that?
I cannot be Medhi.
All right. John, do you want to answer him about the Baha’i
Sal-OM Maitreya. Sal-OM
look in the Kitab-I-Aqdas,the Kitab-I-Iqan, and in
Gleanings, I believe that what you are referring to is the verse
about the 1,000 years. But, if we look also in the writings of
Abdul Baha’ himself, he explains in one part about the thousand
years. And, he says that it does not have anything to do with the
is on page 56 of Some Answered Questions, and Selections
from the Writings of Abdul Baha’. So, someone asked the
question about the 1,000 years and he said, “It has nothing to do
with the Universal Manifestation.” It has nothing to do with it.
Then if you look again on page 56 of Some Answered Questions,
when he is speaking about the
Seventh Angel, he says, “The
Seventh Angel will come. He will
bring the Kingdom Of Heaven On
and he will be a Divine and Universal Manifestation.”
So even at this level, the 1,000 years does not pertain to a
Universal Manifestation. And, if we know our Scriptures, we
know that the
Seventh Angel is going to come and
be that (a Universal Manifestation). If we understand the Mission
and Its teachings, “Well sure, this is the
Seventh Angel. This is the
one who reveals all there is. It brings
The Holiest Of The Holies, which is also on page 56 of
Some Answered Questions, the
Seventh Angel will bring the
Holiest Of The Holies.”
So, we can say, “Yes. OK, so this does not have to deal with the
Universal Manifestation and his coming.” But, instead we can
look at the Mission’s understanding of it and we can see that it
deals with the period after Maitreya. So, this is very
much coherent with the teaching of the Baha’i Faith there as well.
And, no way is there a contradiction.
Very good. That is your answer, Ya Sahibuz Zaman. John
is the person who is expert in the prophecies. And he has
brought a lot of prophecies to the
Mission, so he
knows what he is talking about. I am not the expert in the
I did not find these
prophecies. The disciples and other people found them.
John brought these prophecies even before he knew about the Mission
at all. So that is why he answered the question.
My answer to you is the
same. It was not for Baha’u’llah. It was for this Mission.
If you can see that, you will see in that the next 1,000 years, even
more than that, there will not be any other great Manifestation but
this is the last Manifestation for a long, long time.
Go ahead, ihavadream.
Sal-OM everyone. As I am sitting here listening, I’m humbling
my heart as best as I can. There are a few things that bother
me. And, please, with all due respect… I respect you,
although there is one thing that is getting me right in the pit of
my stomach. And, that is the fact that you say you are
sinless. I heard that as I was making coffee. And, no
one here is sinless. No one is perfect, from my understanding.
And, you are yet claiming that.
You are still subject to
ego while you are on this earth and in a physical vehicle.
And, I am witness to that. I have seen a lot of comings and
goings of people who call themselves a Messiah. I am fearful
that you are falling into the pit of ego. And, I want to hear
your response to this. Understand that I am aware of many
things as well as you may be aware of many things. And, this
is not the first that I have heard of an Eternal Divine Path.
You have many truths, although I do see a pitfall here. What
do you have to say about that?
I hope you do not feel that you are sinless either and you do not
have any ego. If you believe that you have an ego, then how
can you judge me? You have not overcome, and you are not pure,
and you have not taken the beam out of your own eyes. How can
you come and judge me that I am wrong?
Is God sinful? Can
He sin? When I am here, sitting here and giving Satsang, He is
talking, and He is sinless. And, He cannot sin. If you
are unhappy that I say I am sinless, because you see the body, the
human sitting here, and you accuse me, but you do not realize that
it is the Spirit behind the body who is talking and also the person
who asked that question, I knew what his next question would be:
That Christ is sinless and he is the only way, and I am the false
prophet. Therefore, I am blocking his next question that would
be a waste of time. So the answer to that question had many,
many aspects to it and you saw only one, a human saying he is
Realize what is happening
here. And, also, if you accept who I am, then you will realize
the answer was perfect as it was. I can give you a credential
of my claim here, why I claim what I claim. My credential is a
very long one.
I was being guided to
this Vision and the whole of my life has been based to come to this
Vision. I received this Vision in the Baha’i Temple. I
received the Revelation after that. The teaching alone was
enough for me to say, “Yes, that makes sense.”
I was not looking for any
prophecy to come from my claim and what I say is to be true.
Of course, later on the prophecies started trickling in little by
little. Then one disciple said that she would like to put them
together. She studied many things and found many, many
prophecies. I said, “Well, that is enough. We have every
Then two years later,
suddenly John, the gentleman who just talked, came around and said
there are more prophecies fulfilled. A month, or two months
ago, our beloved Brother Frank came and asked me if I am connected
to King David or not. I said, “Well, that does not matter.
That is fulfilled with Christ.” And I really meant it.
Then he went and he
found, “Yes. My genealogy goes to King David.” And
without he knowing it, he also realized that my genealogy also goes
to Prophet Muhammad.
So, this individual
sitting here talking to you is very, very unique. It is
impossible to create an individual like this and say, “Oh, it is
just by chance.” It is not by chance. It is the
fulfillment of the prophecies. It is the uniqueness of God’s
choosing this vessel to come here and preach to humanity the
Revelation of God.
Are you the person who
fulfilled any prophecy who can see many things and compare yourself
to this Revelation? You have to look at this thing and say,
“Oh, is there any truth in them?”
Therefore, you can see
that I have all the right to claim what I claim. And,
therefore, it is the fulfillment of God’s prophecy. This is
the last Revelation.
Now a person, a
Christian, comes here and says, “Are you sinless?”
Yes, when I sit here and
I talk about God, God is sinless and has not sinned. And, the
Father and I are one, and no one goes to the Father but through me.
Would they understand that? Probably not. I know the
next question they have. Therefore, it is just a waste of time
to go into detail that it has nothing to do with this teaching, etc.
There are a lot of
Pharisees and Sadducees you know coming along here. And, also
a lot of negative things are rising from the same Sadducees and
Pharisees that were there 2,000 years ago.
Therefore, you cannot
just come and judge me because there is much, much more into it than
meets the eye. All right?
So, in truth, the Spirit
behind me, God, is sinless, and He is the Savior. He has never
sinned. He is Pure, and He is the Way.
I hope that makes sense
to you. So, be a little patient. Be a little deeper.
Meditate, and see the spirit behind the question and the Spirit
behind the man. If you see that, then it is much easier for
OK, I will give you one
more chance, Ya Sahibuz Zaman. You keep just telling me I
should answer the question. I should not do anything I do not
want to. OK? I told John to answer you and that was your
Stay on the topic of the
and type your questions. Go ahead.
You are the prophet, you should know. As the Bab explained
the Surah of Joseph in the Koran, he did not ask any one else
to explain, now you explain what was the prophecy about the end time
according to Imam Muhammed Bagher from The Holy Koran, which
he said look in the Koran. Look for what? Please
tell us since all the Messengers have the same Knowledge. And,
do you read Arabic?
I am not going to go through every little prophecy with the obscure
people and explain to you what it was. If you want to tell us
what it was and you want the meaning of it, I can go ahead and give
you the meaning. But, I am not going to go ahead and explain
something that you have found. People have done that before
here. We told them it is not going to fly here.
If you want to go ahead
and say what is the prophecy or the saying, I might go ahead and
explain it to you, but just typing that there, just does not make
Tell us what the prophecy
is. I will tell you what it means. If it is big or
small, it does not make any difference.
Go ahead, Cog.
Yes, thanks, Maitreya. Well, Jesus said, “There is no
other way to the Father but by me.” You could say that there
is no other way to the Father but by the Christ, which you believe
that you are the reincarnated Christ, the Spirit of God manifested
on earth. That is why you are saying that you are not a sinner
because you believe, well, the Scripture says, for one thing, it is
impossible for God to lie, and God cannot sin.
Do you believe that you
are always God manifested on the earth so that you never can sin,
period? What is your belief of who you really are?
And then another thing,
Jesus said, “You must be born again or you cannot enter the Kingdom
of Heaven.” But I figure that you probably mean reincarnated.
But Jesus said, “You must be born from above and not from below,”
not from earthly parents but born of God to be Children of God, by
new birth through The Holy Spirit. So, what is your thinking
on what Jesus said, and what is believed by the church?
OK Cog. I have to direct you to the website. Go there
and read our teaching. You are asking the same questions over
and over that have been answered many times. We have told you
many times to go there and your questions would be answered.
You are repeating the questions that have already been answered a
hundred times. Please go there and read there, and you will
receive your answers.
All the answers have been
given. If you can just overcome your belief about your
Christian background, then you might see something. But, if
you do not go to the website, and you want to come here and repeat
the same thing over and over… It just does not make sense.
Go ahead, Mantrik.
do you have any other job other than this? Are you working for
your food and clothing?
Well, that is none of your business, Parrot, if I work for my food
and clothing. As Christ said, “The worker is worthy of his
wage.” You have come back here again and are trying to say
Our time is up.
Thanks for coming. I hope you receive some blessing of this
Satsang. I will be here next week. Please, go to our
website again. Read our teaching. Understand what we are
talking about, and then come with the questions about the teaching,
what this Revelation is all about, how it has unified humanity, and
is here to bring the peace on earth and the Kingdom Of Heaven to