Good morning everyone, this is Maitreya. Welcome to the
This is the room to study Maitreya’s teaching and God’s
Revelation. We are very glad that you came to our room and are
with us. We will be here for the next two hours.
We believe that we have
the answers to all your questions, and God has revealed the whole
thing in this Revelation that has come to humanity. The
Revelation that has come to humanity through this Mission
explains the unification of all religions.
If you had ever asked
yourself, “Why one God and so many religions?” you will have your
answer here in the
This Mission is very serious.
It is not an ego trip, or we are not here to kid you or
anything. We are very serious about this Revelation.
God’s Revelation has come
to humanity. If you go and study the amount of prophecies that
are fulfilled, the Revelation of the opening of the Seven Seals that
has been mentioned in the Scriptures that would be coming to
humanity, has come. This
indeed is the Glory of God, which has come to humanity. And,
God again, has come to earth to reveal to humanity that He truly
Actually, many people
discuss all the time, “Does God really exist or not?” And,
they do not have the answer. When they come to the Mission
and read that He said he will do all these things and He did them,
they will not have any doubt that God indeed does exist and He is in
the whole universe.
But, He is a Spirit.
He cannot just come here and say, “Here I am!” He needs a
body, a channel, someone who can come and bring the Revelation to
humanity. Therefore, He prophesies for a long time of the
coming of such revelations, and such a person or persons. The
Prophets have come to humanity many times. Actually, in the
Koran it says there are around 144,000 of them.
But, of course, there are
major revealer, like the people who founded great religions of the
world. And, of course, there are minor Prophets who have come
for a specific reason, like Jonas came just to warn that city that
they had to return to God.
Other Prophets like
Christ, Moses, Muhammed, and Bab, Baha’u’llah who have come to found
new religions on earth… But, this Revelation is the
culmination of all revelations before it, and it has also fulfilled
all the prophecies that have even been foretold for the Prophets to
So if you see the sign,
the uniqueness of this Mission, the answers have been given
to humanity, all will guide you and will let you know that truly God
has come to humanity and this Revelation has come to bring peace,
tranquility, unity, and the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth, and nothing
has been held back from humanity.
So you are very lucky
that you found this room, you found God, you found His Revelation.
Of course, there are many people who have very little knowledge.
Very few want to put effort to find more about the Mission,
and they say things that are not true and it will be very bad for
them to oppose something, which is Godly.
So, to them, we ask them
to go and study our teaching and do not jump to conclusions.
As Christ said, “Search, knock, and ask,” and you will find that
this teaching is from God, it has come to humanity to guide them to
the oneness that they need so badly, and to bring the justice and
unity that everyone wants.
So, now you might ask,
“What is the Revelation that is so wonderful?” The Revelation,
if you go to our website, as you enter the website, you will see a
Sign that we call, “The Greatest Sign,” which includes all
the religions of the world, and includes also signs from the
Buddhist and Hindu teachings and religions.
There has never ever been
a revelation that included all previous revelations, including the
Mystical Paths. Judeo-Christian-Islamic-Baha’i although they
brought great revelations, they never really unified or brought the
concept of the Mystical Path to the fold.
But, because this is the
last Revelation and unification of all the revelations before it, it
also includes the Mystical Paths. That includes, of course,
all the religions like Hinduism and Buddhism.
Now, if you look at that
Greatest Sign, of course, it is a blue background in the
beginning, and there is a dot. Then it spins to an I-Ching,
and opens to the Lotustica, or the Lotus in the middle. Then
it continues showing the different signs of the different religions.
The teaching is based on,
each religion has come to us with a specific revelation, or point.
When you put all of them together, you will see the whole picture.
Before the coming of the Seventh Angel,
or this Seventh Revelation, each religion had only a part of the
truth, not the whole truth, and that is why there has been so much
confusion and argument between them.
Now God said, “I have
sent all of them.” And each of them have a great meaning.
When you put them all together you will see what is the exact
meaning of the whole revelation of each of these religions and what
it means when you put them all together.
So, the very I-Ching in
the bottom is about the awakening of your spiritual forces.
That means meditating, concentrating, chanting, dancing, whatever
the Mystical people do to awaken their spiritual forces. That
includes all the religions that teach, “Know thyself to know God,”
“Be still and know that I am God.” And in this category are:
Hinduism, Buddhism, Cabbala (the Mystical Path of Judaism), Saints
in Christianity, and Sufis in Islam, and all other Paths that teach
the same thing, “Know thyself to know God.”
So, we can see that the
very first sign unifies all these Mystical Paths together.
And, the teaching in these Mystical Paths is that if you awaken your
spiritual forces, you eventually merge to God and become One with
Him. And, that is the goal of life.
And, God says, “That is
not enough, you have to direct your energy, after you awaken your
spiritual forces, toward the creation of the Communities of Light.”
Now you can say, “What
Communities of Light?” The Communities of Light
have been explained in the Old Testament. If you read
the Old Testament, the whole Old Testament is about
God is trying to find a people for Himself, which are called the
twelve tribes of Israel. These twelve tribes of Israel are
supposed to accept God as their king, follow His Laws, become His
Children and chosen ones.
Therefore, the next step
Eternal Divine Path in The Greatest Sign, is the
creation of the Communities of Light. The whole
Greatest Sign, of course, explains the Eternal Divine Path.
Therefore, the whole
Communities of Light are based on the Eternal Divine Path.
And, therefore, the creation of the Communities of Light is
the next step in our explanation, which is the Old Testement,
or Hebrew revelation and teaching.
We can see in that book,
the whole idea is to create the community based on God.
Therefore, the next step is, “How do you create the Communities
You want to create the
Communities of Light, but what are the
Communities of Light? What is the Eternal Divine
Path? How can you put these things all together?
The next step is
sacrifice is necessary in order to create the Communities of
Light. In a community that everyone says, “What is in it
for me? and, “What is in it for me?” and you do not want to follow
God’s Will, then the separation will start and, of course, it will
not become a Community of Light.
Therefore, we can see
that the next step is sacrifice. And, that was brought by
Christ. Christ went all the way to the cross for his ideal.
He was crucified, and said, “The greatest thing a man can do is to
die for his friends,” or his fellowman, or, love your neighbor as
All those things are to,
“Do not be self-centered. Do not only think about yourself,
‘Me, me, me, me,’ all the time.” The moment you do that, of
course, you are going to become egoistical. The ego is the
only thing, actually that disconnects you, or is in your way to
receive God’s Grace. Ego is like an umbrella on your head.
You can hold that up and The Grace of God will not come to you.
So, we can see that the
next step in the Eternal Divine Path, is sacrifice.
And, that is Christianity. The New Testament, is also
included in this teaching. And, that was one of the messages
of Christ’s teaching, to teach that in order to create the
Communities of Light, you should not become self-centered and
Now you sacrifice a lot
and nothing happens in the community. The Communities of
Light are not forming. What happens? You become very
discouraged and say, “Why am I doing all these things and nothing is
happening?” That is again ego. It comes in, it depresses
you, and you will not be willing to see that it is not really you,
who is the doer. God is doing and you should not be attached
God takes His time.
God’s timing is different then human timing. Human timing is
very short. We want everything now, instantly, instant coffee
[laughing]. We want it now. It should be here, now.
We cannot wait to brew the coffee.
But, what happens when
you brew the coffee and do it very slowly? You have better
coffee? It is better coffee than the one… Of course, I
do not drink coffee myself so it is just an example. That does
not mean that I drink coffee.
So, you can see that God
takes His time. He brews things. He put them in the
heat. When it is ready, he says, “OK now it is ready, it can
be manifest. And, it will. If it is His Will, it will
manifest. If it is not in His Will, it is not up to you and me
to judge what is God’s Will and what is not because the only thing
He gives us is enough information for us to judge. But, when
He brings something and we see it is Godly, then we cannot judge Him
because He is God.
It is just like a fish
wants to judge a human. Can a fish judge a human? They
cannot. They have a very small brain and they live in the
water. They do not even know what kind of condition we live
So, it is very hard for
us to judge God, but He sends all the information we need to be able
to choose correctly.
So, when we sacrifice and
we become depressed and all of that, it is because we are attached
to the result of our actions. We want results. Humans
love to see the results. We do things and we want the results
That is why the next step
is to surrender the result to God and say, “I did my work. I
did all this job. But if it is not happening. Or, it is
happening, it is God’s result, it does not belong to me.”
Or, even greater than
surrendering the result is submission. It means that we
contemplate that God is doing it through us. He is the real
Doer. God is everything. Therefore, He is the Doer.
And, if He is the Doer, then who are you to be attached to the
result of the things that you have not done anyway. Therefore,
you can be free of the attachments, which come from the expectations
for the results.
Expect the results but do
not be attached to them. I do not mean do not expect any
results. Of course, you do things to get the results, but do
not be attached to them.
Of course, that is the
teaching of Islam. Islam comes from the work, “Tasleim.”
It means to be surrendered and submissive to God. That is the
real meaning and the message of Islam, to surrender the result to
God, or to realize that God is doing it through you.
In all these four steps:
awakening of your spiritual forces, directing the energy toward the
creation of the Communities of Light, sacrificing, and
becoming surrendered and submissive to God, still the narrowness of
the mind might exist, and you might direct all your attention to a
very small part of the universe. And that narrowness of the
mind, of course, also creates suffering.
So, the next step is
universalism. Universalism means that you realize that God is
everything. He is the Father-Mother God and all the creation
is His creation. He is everything in the universe, you cannot
separate any part from any other part. The moment you do that,
you do not realize God.
Therefore, you cannot say, “Well, this
religion is good, or that religion is not good, these people are
good, these people are evil,” separate between religions, genders,
races, nationalities, and all that. If you do that, of course,
you are separating God from God. You cannot do that. If
you do that, you are not seeing that God is everything.
Therefore, we all are brothers and
sisters in God and there is no separation between us. And, if
you separate anyone then you cannot realize that God is everything.
So, we can see that that next step is
the Baha’i teaching. Their teaching, basically, says that all
religions are the same and they have revealed the same message,
therefore, we have to realize the message, what it is. But a
lot of people compare us with the Baha’i teaching and say, “Oh, you
are saying the same thing.”
No, we do not. We do not say that
all the religions are the same. We say, actually, that each
religion has a specific message for humanity. And, it is not
the same as the Baha’i teaching.
The Baha’i teaching is a part of God’s
Revelation, and the people who brought that religion also fulfilled
the prophecies that had been told about them. Therefore, they
are legitimate Prophets of God as is Prophet Muhammed who also
fulfilled the prophecies. As Christ was the one who fulfilled
the prophecies, as Moses and all the other Prophets came with the
same background and with the same fulfillment of the prophecies.
So fulfillment of the prophecies is the
way that you know if a prophet is correct or not. So not
everyone can come and say, “Yes, I have a revelation. I know
God. I am a teacher.” No, you cannot do that. If
you follow those people, they are not from God.
The only person who is from God is the
one who fulfills the prophecy. If they have not fulfilled the
prophecy, run away very fast, and go to the Scriptures and see what
God said about the truth. Therefore, we also include the
So you can see the Eternal Divine
Path, which is the five steps: awakening of your spiritual
forces, directing your energy toward the creation of the
Communities of Light…
Of course, the
Communities of Light are the base of the Kingdom Of Heaven On
Earth. That is so important. The Communities of Light
are the focus of this Mission, to create Communities of
Light all over the world. Therefore, we can bring the
Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth, the peace, unity, and tranquility that
all of us really want and desire, and no one knows how to do it.
This is what God is saying, “That is how it is done, by the creation
of the Communities of Light.”
Then, in Communities of Light,
sacrifice is necessary, which is Christianity. And, the next
step is surrendering and submission of the results, or let God do
through us, which is Islam. And become a universalist, which
is the Baha’i teaching.
Going through those five steps, you
become an Elect. You become a son of God. You become a
person, a dynamic spiritual force on earth, and you become the new
leaders for humanity to guide humanity to the next step of evolution
that we are approaching very fast that some people call the Golden
Age, some people say the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth. No matter
what you call it, in that age many people will progress and will
reach Pure Consciousness, and will go to the highest level of
That step, or Elects, is the Sixth Seal
that you can see there. Actually, you see that the Sixth Seal
is very similar to the Second Seal, or the Star of David. The
Star of David means the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth. The Sixth
Seal means the Kingdom Of Heaven Within you.
If you see, in the middle of The
Greatest Sign, another triangle upward, triangle downward, the
Star of David is in the middle. And, that is the Kingdom Of
Heaven In Heaven. So we have the Kingdom Of Heaven In Heaven
already established. We should create the Kingdom Of Heaven On
Earth. We will do that when many people will create the
Kingdom Of Heaven Within themselves, which is the Sixth Seal.
And, these people will bring the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth and many
people will reach Pure Consciousness, or ultimate realization, or
the Seventh Seal, which is the Mission of Maitreya
and our teaching.
And, you can see in that Sign, the
Lotustica opens up and the Seventh Seal becomes in the image of the
center of The Greatest Sign. The center of The
Greatest Sign is God, therefore, in the Seventh Seal, the
Seventh Sign, also becomes in the image of God, as God had created
us in the beginning.
But, of course, because we fell, we are
no longer in His image. We have to return back to His image
again, become One with Him, and manifest God Qualities. That
is the base of our teachings. We recommend that all of you go
to our website and study our teaching.
This is the call to humanity. It
is something very serious. It is really, your Soul is going to
be in the Kingdom, or it is not going to be reincarnated? That
is as simple as that.
If you understand the teaching, if you
are an Elect, if you come and see the teaching and realized, “Yes,
God is calling to come and join this Revelation and create the
Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth,” then you become an Elect. You
will be one of the ones that will be reincarnated in the next
But, if you resist it, you insist, “No,
it is not true,” then you are not going to be an Elect and I am
afraid you will not be reincarnated for a long time. You will
not reach the fruit that is available to everyone.
So, it is a very serious matter here.
Think about it very carefully and realize that this
Mission is very serious. It is the last Revelation of
God to humanity. The evolutionary process of the next step has
This is not an ego trip. I am not
on an ego trip at all. I direct you to see the prophecies
fulfilled. No other person on earth can claim the prophecies
that have come to this Mission. No one can say that
they are from the lineage, from the same Prophets. No Prophet
ever had both lineages come to them and the teaching.
If you see the teaching and see the
Revelation, and see how wonderful it is, you really do not need the
rest. But, if you need the rest, go study, you will see it is
from God, and you will believe. We will answer all your
questions here at the same time.
A few questions cannot be answered:
Explain God. I can explain It in very wonderful words but
still it is an intellectual way of explaining God.
I can show the way to get to God, and
that is the Eternal Divine Path. But, would you get
there? It is up to you to walk it or not. It is your
Every human has the choice to accept
our teaching, to follow the Eternal Divine Path, and reap the
truth, or, resist it and say, “No, I am not going to do it.”
Then I cannot help you.
That is the wonder about humanity.
They have free will. You have free will to follow God or not
to follow God. But, if you want to follow God that is the
Path. The Path is the Eternal Divine Path.
I hope all of you have gone to the
website, studied our teaching, and that you have a lot of questions
related to our teachings, and how it is related to other religions.
If you are here to teach or preach your teaching, as it was read in
the beginning, it is going to be wasting our time and your time.
So, at this time you can go ahead and
raise your hand if you have any questions and we will answer them.
Otherwise, we will meditate together and wait until someone has a
question. So, the floor is open for any questions you might
Go ahead, Buffalo.
The Path that you are teaching is the only one? That kind of
disturbs me just a little bit. Am I correct in that statement?
Yes, it is not… A lot of people say, “Everyone has their own
path.” And, that is true. There is an individual path
that you can find, which will help every individual. But,
there is a collective umbrella that everyone can fall into and be a
part of and, that is the Eternal Divine Path
that we teach here.
You meditate, meditate and awaken your
spiritual forces. How do you meditate? It is different
for different people. Some people like formal meditation.
Some people like to go fishing. Some people like to drive a
car. Some people like to garden. So, how you do meditate
can be individually designed or followed with each individual
person, and they have that choice.
But, after they meditate and awaken
their spiritual forces, they direct that energy toward the creation
of the Communities of Light. The community is very
important to create, and bring the base of the Kingdom.
Now, where your room is going to be in
the community, what you are going to do in the community, what kind
of talent you have you can share into the community, or bring your
energy to the community and make it a better community, again is an
individual choice. You have the way to do it.
Sacrifice, how much are you going to
sacrifice? How much are you willing to give to the community?
How much are you willing to participate? These things
individually can be followed, but the overall umbrella is the
Eternal Divine Path.
After you are in the community and you
sacrifice for the community, according to your capacity, then, of
course, you have to realize that you are not attached to the result
of your actions. You surrender the action to God, or you
realize that God is doing it through you.
The Eternal Divine Path helps
you individually in your Path. It is the umbrella of who you
are. You cannot completely expect everyone to do the same
thing and all of that. No, you have your individuality in the
Eternal Divine Path.
So, it is true that each person has a
way to do things, and their lifestyle, and their capacity.
But, the Eternal Divine Path is the umbrella over all this.
I hope that makes sense to you.
If it does not, go ahead and take the mic and follow up with your
Go ahead, Silent.
I want to say it is a pleasure to meet you. I also wanted to
say with the teaching but there are basic
My question is that there
are 144,000 of us that understand these exact same teachings.
I think my questions is that you… What I am asking is that you
are saying that you are the one who put these all together, but you
are not the only one who has put those together, my brother.
There are others here as well, which are of the same information,
information, and teach the same information. I am just curious
to where you stand on that.
Yes, there are 144,000 people who will understand this teaching, see
the truth, will come to the Mission, and join me in bringing
Communities of Light to reach the Communities of Light,
and help to bring the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth.
But, not all of the
144,000 have fulfilled all the prophecies and have the unique
situation that God has given me as the focus, the center for these
people. And they will see me as their rallying point to come
together and bring about the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth.
Therefore, these people are the Elects.
Actually, it has been
said, the guru comes when you already know. Of course, I am
not saying that I am a guru. But, the teacher comes when you
already know most of the things he is going to teach you.
That is why the people
who are in the Mission, all tell me, “From my childhood I was
different. I could not stay in my religion. I had a
feeling of there are truths in other religions. And, all my
family was very upset about it because I could not stay in the
dogmas and the religion they taught me. I wanted to know
Most of them have been in
many religions at the same time, either they were a Christian, they
had gone to become a Moslem, and then became Baha’i. Or, the
were Jews and they were interested to study about Christianity, and
they eventually came to the Mission. Or, some of them
had the idea that, “If there is one God, how can there be so many
religions?” They were very different then the people around
them. And, then when they saw the teaching, it made sense to
Actually, that is one of
the reasons that I was amazed when I received this Revelation, at
how much it makes sense. How logical it is. So, we can
even reach the people who are logical, the people who are not
emotional. A lot of the present religions on earth are based
on emotions, culture, and the tradition of the people. They
are born in it. They really have not gone and studied, and
researched about their religion.
They do not know much of
their religion. The only thing they know is that the preacher
told them, “This is the way it is,” and, they say, “Yes, that is the
way it is.”
Most of the people who
come to the Mission, and see the Revelation and love it, are
not the followers of the preachers but are the followers of the
truth. They are searchers. They have already known many
part of the teaching, as you said. But, when they saw this,
they said, “Oh, yes, this makes sense, and, Maitreya has
fulfilled the prophecies, therefore, he is the center of this
“I am called for this
Mission. I have a mission but I have not fulfilled the
prophecy. I am here to spread the light, but I am not the
light itself.” As some of my disciples were telling me that
they had been commissioned to spread the light but they do not
believe that they are the light themselves. As John the
Baptist also said that he is here to spread the light.
But, what is the light?
The light is the first revealer of the Revelation, which is
connected in a greater degree to the Source.
So if you accept the
prophecies, and if you see those prophecies are correct and this
person is so unique and the teaching is so true, then you say, “OK,
I know a lot of what you teach. It makes sense. But, I
am here also to spread this truth and wonder, and I would like to
become a part of the process.”
Then you become brothers.
We become co-workers. Then we get together and say, “OK, what
do you have? What kind of talents do you have? What can
Then we have two
Maitreyas, three Maitreyas, ten Maitreyas, and one
hundred Maitreyas. We can have 144,000 Maitreyas
on earth. And, we can accomplish this truth, spread it to
every corner of the earth, and bring peace and unity to humanity.
I hope that makes sense.
Go ahead Buffalo.
[laughing] You answered my question before I could ever get it out.
Thank you, much.
Isn’t that wonderful [laughing]? Actually, there are a lot of
question asked, I have heard in other rooms. I wish they would
have all come here and we could have answered them because all of
them are answered.
There is one questions
that has been brought up to me, and they told me a lot of people
ask, “Does God really exist?” That is a question that a lot of
people are asking and a lot of discussion has been there.
“Does God really exist?”
Of course, I was born in
a Moslem background and their God was something sitting there, is
very angry all the time, and doing all those things. So, I
rejected Him. But, in this teaching, in this Revelation, you
will see that God said He is going to do this thing, He is going to
send a Prophet from Ishmael, He is going to send a Prophet from
Isaac, and He does it.
He says He is going to
open the Seven Seals, a Revelation, a book sealed with the Seven
Seals, and the
Seventh Angel will come. He
has. Does God exist? Can you doubt that now? You
So you can say, “Yes, God
exists. God is Consciousness and is with us all the time.”
Go ahead, j-f. [He
typed his question in the text]
Well, I wish you would
come to the microphone. As we said, we are not going to accept
any text questions. But it is a good question. I am
going to go ahead and accept it this time [laughter].
is everything and the future already existed for God, how come there
is free will for humans? Are they out of unity? Please
Well, the future is known to God, to a degree. Free will can
affect the future. Therefore, if today, all humanity came to
say, “Yes, Maitreya, you are right. All these religions
have come from the same God. How can we not see that? It
is so simple.”
There is one God.
How can there be so many revelations. “Let us do it. We
are all going to create
Communities of Light tonight. We are going to create a
hierarchy from these communities.” We are going to have the
Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth tomorrow. That is as simple as it
So, the free will of
humanity affects the future of how things will manifest and come to
be. Therefore, although God knows where He is going, He knows
that He is going to establish the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth, the
free will affects His Plans. It is not written in stone.
It can be done tomorrow. It might take twenty years.
You have the free will,
but you do not have the result. Your free will makes the
result what it will be. You have the free will to choose the
wrong path. But, where you are going to go is God’s choosing.
God has already shown you
the straight path, the straight arrow, where it will go. If
you follow the
Eternal Divine Path, I guarantee your salvation. You
will go to God.
If you choose not to
Eternal Divine Path, if you choose to hang up into your
dogmas, or your tradition, or your religion, or anything that would
prevent you from going to God and to follow the Eternal Divine
Path, I can guarantee you are not going to go to God.
It is just as simple as
that. So, you can see that you have the free will to choose,
but the result…
Actually, that is the Law
of Karma. If everyone is predestined, why do we need the Law
of Karma? Everyone should, like a robot, do exactly what God
told them to do. The Law of karma is, “You have free will.”
You can choose to be bad. But, when you are bad, do not expect
to get good results. Do not expect God to be nice to you.
You have the choice.
Therefore, free will shows what the result of your actions is.
Of course, this time is
the time of sundering. That is what God said, “When the
Seventh Angel comes it is the time
of sundering.” It is finished. The time is done.
It is gone.
He has given all of you
enough time and lifetimes to correct yourself and come to follow the
Eternal Divine Path easily. If you have not, you have
reached to this point and you will not do it, therefore, now is the
time that your choosing will result to what He has already said.
Either you go to the
Kingdom or you go to the other way. Of course, the symbolic is
hell. But, the hell really means, ignorance. Ignorance
means not to know the Eternal Divine Path, God’s Revelation,
unity of all humanity, and that God sent all these Revelations to
So, we can see that man
has the free will but the result belongs to God. He will
choose what happens to you according to your choosing.
We do not believe in
predestination. We believe in the closer your come to God, the
more you become predestined because you lose your choices.
The further away you are
from God, the more choices you have but, of course, you are not
close to God. So, you choose your path. It is the way it
And, that is what is
wonderful about humanity, they have the free will. And if you
go to God with the free will then that is wonderful because God say,
“OK, you had the other choices but you choose Me. And God is
Go ahead, Buffalo.
Some version of the Bible, King James, or whatever, when the
Angel opens the Seventh Seal it says there is silence in heaven for
a half an hour. I know this is symbolic. It is about the
only thing I have not been able to get my head around. Has
that happened? And, if so, who was it? because I sure must
have been asleep when it did happen [laughter].
Well, as I said, only God knows the exact timing of the things that
will happen. But, it has happened.
For the last twenty some
years, the Mission has been on earth but it has been very
silent. And, it was very quiet. It was not reaching out
very much but a very few people saw it. Other people came and
foretold of the coming of Maitreya
in 1982. We did not know about them and they did not know
In 1982, we were the only
Maitreya that reached out and put the outreach of the
to humanity. We put advertising all over the magazines and
places like that. But, very few people showed up. Very
few people came and joined us.
The reason was that they
were, the people who were called to be the first fruit, and they
came and they helped a lot in the Mission. They got a
lot of things done. We were in the preparation.
Actually, I thought we
were done with the Mission and we were ready to go until two
months ago a brother came here and brought more revelation to us
that we did not even consider that as a part of this Mission.
So, the Mission is
still building up. It has been building for twenty years.
Can we say that that twenty years was that half an hour of silence?
And, now we are reaching to PalTalk, more people are hearing about
us, and that is why we are prosecuted in even a greater degree.
And a lot of people come and say many, many things that they said to
Christ, and every other Prophet that came to humanity.
There has never been a
Prophet that came to humanity that they never persecuted. They
were thrown stones at. They were crucified, or shot at.
Bab was shot at, and was killed. Christ was crucified.
Prophet Muhammed had stones thrown at him.
But, this time God is
very smart. He created the Internet so that I can say whatever
I want, and they cannot get their hands on me. So that is also
prophesy fulfilled that many people will hear him and probably soon…
They can even see me in my tape that is on the website.
But, they are persecuting
and they are saying things that are not true, and not correct.
I am very concerned about their Souls.
So answering your
question, we believe, maybe… As I said, God only knows those
answers in a deeper level. But, we believe that that half and
hour was that twenty years that we were very quiet. And, we
are now reaching out to humanity.
I hope that makes sense
Go ahead, Lou.
Good afternoon, Maitreya. Sal-OM. In THOTH,
The Revelation, you said that when one overcomes, one would
be crowned with twelve powers. What are those twelve powers?
Would you please explain?
Well, they are the siddhis, what is called siddhis in the other
teachings, especially the Hindu philosophy. There are many,
many things. Some can hear for miles. Some can shoot an
arrow. Some people can heal. There are many, many
Twelve is really the
umbrella of those powers. But, we do not emphasize gaining
power by meditation. Actually, that is very much discouraged,
to meditate for gaining powers. And, even if you gain powers
it is good to use them for the good of the community and humanity,
and use them only to advance the creation of the
Communities of Light and the following of the Eternal
So gaining powers is not
the goal of meditation. It is not the goal of this Mission
at all. Actually, those people who gain powers
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people to the path that
is not from God, and they will fall for that little miracle that
that person can do, or that little power that they have, and they
will not see the Message. The Message is the Eternal Divine
Path and that is what everyone should concentrate on. If
in the process they gain power, they should not become attached to
it at all.
Actually, I used to tell
a story, in the beginning when I started meditating in 1973 or 4.
I was in Pennsylvania and I started meditating. After a month
or two, I could tell the people’s actions, present, what they did in
the past, what they are going to do in the future, how their future
was going to be, and all of that.
Of course, at that time,
I was a student in a university and I had a lot of friends.
They knew me. They would invite me to their gatherings and all
of that. And, I started telling them what they did.
So, I became the center
of the party, and I loved it. Just all the attention was on
me, and all of that. They just said, “Yes, how do you know
that? I never told this to anyone,” and all of that.
So, I enjoyed it
immensely that I could do that. But, two months later I lost
the power. I was miserable because everyone left, no attention
[laughing], and not anything. And, everyone said, “It was just
all fake,” when it was not. My state of being later was even
worse than it was before.
And, that was a good
lesson for me given that time that, powers are not important and you
might misuse the power. And, they do. How many 800
numbers or psychic numbers do you know that you can call and they
tell you about things.
Even in the Bible
it clearly says, when Saul asked that sorcerer to summon the spirit
of Samuel, Samuel was very, very angry for what he did. And,
actually, Saul was cursed because… But, she had the power to
do that. But God said, “It is not good.”
So, powers are not good.
You should not work with the powers at all. If they come to
us, fine. Just meditate on them.
Actually, if they come to
me again, I just throw them back to the universe and say, “Thank
you, I do not want power, I want God.”
It is just like a little
child that is making a lot of noise and is crying. What do you
do? You give him a little toy to play with. If he plays
with the toy, what happens? The mother goes to do whatever she
wants. But, if the child throws the toy away and says, “No, I
do not want a toy, I want you,” what does the mother have to do?
The mother has to pick him up, hug him, kiss him, and give him a lot
of love, and whatever he wants.
So, that is how it should
be with God. If God gave you some power say, “No. No
thank you. I do not want power. I want You.”
So, the powers can become
an obstacle in your path to God. And, the goal is not to gain
power but to go to God.
I hope that makes sense.
Go ahead, Buffalo.
I was reading a book, and it was called, Magdalana. In
that book, whatever, I understand that Jesus did not die on the
cross and that his body is buried in India. And, the Pope
knows of this and so do a lot of other people. Am I way out of
Well, the story about Christ’s crucifixion is very controversial.
They have many stories and beliefs on it, on what happened.
Some people say, “He was crucified and, of course, he rose.” Some
people say, “He was crucified on Friday and was raised on Sunday
morning.” Other people say, “How can it be?”
He said, “I am going to
be in the earth for three days and three nights.” That makes
him that he is going to have to come out of the grave on Monday
evening, not Sunday morning.
Some people say, “Well,
he really was crucified in a special Sabbath, which was Wednesday.
Therefore, he was completely passed away around 6 PM.
Therefore He rose on Saturday at 6.”
Rosicrucians say, “No, he
was not dead at all. He was alive when they brought him down
from the cross.” And, probably that is the reason that they
added in the Bible
that someone pieced him and made sure he was dead. After they
realized that the Rosicrucians said that, probably someone added
that to the Bible, to make sure, “Yes, he sure was dead,
because the water and the blood came out.”
In Islam, Prophet
Muhammed said, “He was not dead. It seems to them that he was
dead.” Of course, our explanation was, “No one dies. You
cannot kill anyone.” As the
Bhagavad-Gita says, “There is no sword that can touch the
Soul. The man who kills and the person who is killed, if
either one thinks they are killing or they are killed, they are
And, also of course, some
people say that he was not dead, he went and lived somewhere else
for another forty some years after the crucifixion and guided his
disciples from where he was. Of course, you say he was
probably in India doing that. And, after that he was buried
there. So, it is very controversial.
Even some people say, “He
did not even exist, because there are no historical records of
really he existed.” Some people say, “Yes, it was because some
historian had mentioned his name.”
And some people say,
“There is some material in India, in a monastery there that talks
about Christ was in India, eventually went to Jerusalem, and was
crucified. And the record is there.”
So there are a lot of
things that are related to him, which is very hard to decipher what
was the truth. The truth is that the most important is, what
did he teach? What was his message? What did he bring to
Was he crucified?
Wasn’t he? Was he dead? Did he go to India, or he went
to Palestine, or even came to Europe? Does that really help me
in my spiritual progress to God?
The answer is, probably
not because it does not make any difference. The most
important is, what was his message. And, if we understand his
message, the rest just fades away and it is not important to us at
But, it is a very, very
controversial topic and there are a lot of opinions and ideas about
Go ahead, Buffalo.
OK, I stand corrected. I had forgotten, and thanks for
reminding me, that it is the teaching that is important, so much as
exactly what happened.
Now I understand that the
so-called end times, or whatever anyone wants to refer to it as,
they are at hand. They are here now. And, the same thing
that Lot and his wife, Noah, Moses, Jesus, is all the same thing.
It is all the same play with different characters that are ready to
accept the same roles, but the play is the same. How does that
It does not sound good [laughter]. I guess you have to explain
a little bit more what you mean exactly. Can you elaborate on
Well, at the end of every age, at the beginning of every age (now I
can only tell you as I understand it, as it has been explained to
me), there are seven sages that meet, and lay down the plan for the
age. Now, for the Aquarian Age that we are stepping into now
(I think that we stepped into it quite a long time ago), there are
one of two that are chosen to lead the way. Lot and his wife
were one. Moses was one. Noah was one, a so-called
Savior, which they all deny, which is perfectly acceptable to me.
And, I understand that. The play is the same. Most of
mankind, or those who are sleeping, in the dark, maysayers,
whatever, want him dead, want those leaders dead.
Well, my question is why does God need seven person to make His
decisions for Him? This is one of the things probably you will
see, if you stay in the Mission, is we believe there is no
medium between you and God. There is no kind of beings that
make the decisions for Him. God and man, that is it. You
have the ability to go to Him directly. And in His Scriptures
it clearly says that He will prophecy a person will come, and then
that person comes and fulfills that prophecy, and brings a new
teaching, or completes the teaching before it.
There are a lot of other
explanations, I have not seen those explanations in the Scriptures,
but they are made by man. Those explanations appeal to a lot
of people, like the book of Urantia. That is one
explanation. The hierarchy, the white brotherhood, the
brotherhood of light, or the one you just explained, or the
Rosicrucians, and many, many, many people have different explanation
of how God makes the decisions.
And, they even create
separation between man and man. That is because they say, “I
follow the book of Urantia. My book is better than the
people who follow the hierarchy of the white brotherhood.”
Therefore, we here,
completely go beyond all these explanations and say, “No, there is
nothing between you and God. You can reach God by meditation
and through understanding. God makes His decisions, and He is
the person who brings all this revelation.”
Also, where does this
explanation come from, just like the one you said is not in
Scripture? Where in the Scripture does it say that seven
people make the decision? These are the explanations that some
people with a good imagination have created.
There might be some truth
in it. I am not saying it is completely void of truth.
But, the most important thing is, again, would that help us?
It will not because it again creates separation.
So, in this Mission
we try to be as un-separated from one another as possible.
Go ahead, Buffalo.
I did not mean that as a truth and an absolute. As I
understand it, as we travel our…
Before we get under the
group parasol, the group umbrella, or join a group, we are under our
own. We travel singular for a while. And on those
travels it is as if it is in a school. And maybe at that time
I was given that, I was in the spiritual third grade, or the
spiritual second grade, I do not know, spiritual kindergarten.
You learn these truths first until you can find a greater truth, say
in spiritual fourth grade, or fifth grade [laughing]. No, I
did not mean that as an absolute, not by any means. It is
something I heard a long time ago. It made sense then, just as
a learning tool.
Yes, yes, that is great. You make a lot of sense. Of
course, there are people in different levels, and they accept a lot
It is just like, if you
want to become a doctor. You learn a lot of things and at the
end you discard them. Then you become a specialist in one
field, or there are a lot of things you learn. You might not
even ever draw a picture any more after you are a doctor, but you
learn how to draw.
That is true, we learn a
lot of things in the path that later on we discard. But, as I
said, this is the time for sundering. This is the time for the
Elects to come. And for the Elects, our teaching just
completely overcomes and goes beyond anything.
Anything that separates
man from man is not the highest. So, that is probably a good
guideline for all of us. If someone is saying a teaching that
separates people from people, it is probably not on the level of the
doctorate degree. He is in the eighth grade, or ninth grade,
or all of that.
So, it is wonderful that all these
people are interested in God and His Revelation. But, I think
the process has been accelerated in a greater degree. Those
who see this, and they have been in this Path…
For instance, you heard that and now
you hear this and you say, “Well, really what I heard before is not
as great a truth as this is now.” So, you probably can go back
and help those who you knew in the past and bring them with you to
the higher level.
It is just like Johnathan
Livingston Seagull, who found the golden seagulls. Then he
said, “OK, now I will go back to the regular seagulls and tell them,
“What you do is not the highest. Come with me I will show you
how you can become the master, or eagle, and you can fly faster than
many birds or anything.”
You are absolutely right.
But probably it is good for you, if you accept this teaching, if you
see the truth in it, probably you could go back and bring more
seagulls to fly with us together and become eagles.
Go ahead, Jeremiah.
Thank you. In the book of The Revelation, St. John
talked about the 144,000 Elected and the people, who washed the old
clothes in the blood of the lamb of God. What does he actually
mean by that, “Washing the old clothes in the blood of the lamb?”
Thank you, Maitreya.
If you read the Bible, you will see that God created man and
woman. Then, of course, man was both male and female.
And, then God separated them to men and women. Of course, the
attraction to the external world and the Maya, and then temptation,
made them not to follow God’s Rule and God’s Laws.
Therefore, the moment
they became egoistical and they said, “We will become God
ourselves,” by doing what God said not to do, they fell. And,
that falling, of course, we can see it still exists in human
existence, human life, society, and the world. People are
following the temptation and the Maya, and they have fallen from The
Still they demand The
Grace. But demanding The Grace, you do not get The Grace by
demanding It but by following the Laws of God. Therefore, you
can see that failing is internal in the human being because the
balance of the creation went out of balance and ego evolved.
Ego is self-centered and wants everything to themselves. They
are not willing to give and, as Christ, become sacrificial.
Therefore, in the Garden
of Eden, God took The Grace. And the only way you could
appease The Grace back was with the blood.
That is why we can see
the symbol of the Passover is to kill a lamb, an unblemished lamb,
an innocent lamb, the best lamb you have. You put the blood
around the entrance of your home, and, therefore, the disaster will
pass you over and it will not touch your home. So, the
redemption was with the blood of the lamb.
Then Moses brought an
elaborate sacrificial way of washing the sin from the community.
And, after Christ came, he was that unblemished Lamb. He
sacrificed himself and his blood was shed. That was his
Actually, he did not want
to accept the mission in the Garden of Gethsamane, because he felt,
“God, can you take this cup from me?” Of course, he realized
right away that that is not the way, he should be surrendered and
sacrifice, and surrender to the will of God. And he said, no,
“Your will be done, not mine.” And, he went through the
The crucifixion was
symbolic of that lamb was killed and therefore, from then on we can
see that no one did a lot of elaborate sacrifices of the lambs any
more. It was taken away. And, Christ brought The
Grace back to humanity.
Therefore, Christ is the
symbol of the return of The Grace to man and those who follow the
Law of God will receive The Grace of God easily and in abundance.
But, he had to sacrifice.
But, at the end of the
time in the Revelation where you are reading, we do not have to do
that any more. That is, as I said, God created the Internet so
they cannot crucify me. They cannot throw stones at me.
Actually the people who
are crucifying me, some people asked them, would you crucify
if you had your hands on him? No one answered. Probably
the answer, if they are silent, means that they would. But, of
course, they cannot because, what can you do on a computer?
So, in this time, it is
not suppose to be like that. There is not suppose to be any
crucifixion, but it is the Kingdom. It is the Children of God
who will become the kings on earth and will bring the Kingdom Of
Heaven On Earth.
So, this time the call is
not for blood to be shed but the blood being cleansed from his
garment. And he does not need to be crucified as it was
So, that is the meaning
of that verse. I hope that makes sense to you.
Go ahead, Ultiman.
I was told in the room not to be shy, and to ask you questions.
So I hope this does not offend anyone because it really is a serious
Maybe there are others in
the room who may be wondering it as well. I do not really
know. But, can you say that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh?
Well, what difference does it make if I tell you that or not?
The only thing I can tell you is, go see the prophecies are
fulfilled, the Seven Seals are open, the book sealed with the Seven
Seals is Revealed, the Lion of the Tribe of Judah has returned, the
Sayyid from the lineage of Prophet Muhammed is here. The Seven
Seals make sense and reveals the Path that God wants us to follow,
and it is your guidance.
You come to your own
conclusion. Why do I need to tell you, if there is all this?
It is just like they were
asking Christ, “Are you Christ.” He said, “Well, when you see
in the evening the sky is red, you will see there is going to be
rain.” When you see the end time is here, all the prophecies
are fulfilled, all the Scriptures are fulfilled…
That is why I say, go to
the website and see what prophecies are fulfilled. Are the
Seven Seals are opened? Is all the mystery of God given?
Are all the religions unified?
You have to come to the
conclusion yourself. It does not make any difference if I say
yes or no. If you already made your mind that I am not who I
think I am, you will say, “OK, no, you are wrong,” and you saying
what you are saying is correct.
But if you make it
yourself, and you come to the conclusion, “Oh Yes, look at this.
These all are fulfilled.” Then you say, “Yes, I have no
choice. He is the one.”
Therefore, again I guide
you to make the decision yourself. I got everyone…
Actually, that is the best… Do not listen to me at all. Do not
listen to anyone for that matter. Go, search, knock, and ask,
and then come to the conclusion.
If you come to the
conclusion that, “No, he is wrong,” great. You go your way and
I will go my way, and we will see who is the correct one.
And, that is one of the
things that amazes me of these people who come to our room and
rudely interrupt us. My thinking is, “Why do they do that?”
If they believe their God is really God, why are they afraid of
anything? They should say, “OK, I believe in my God and I
trust in God. I do not care what anyone says because anything
that is not Godly is not going to manifest anyway.”
Why do they do that?
It is just beyond my comprehension why such people even exist that
they come… And they say that they are Godly, they are the
Children of God, they are the chosen ones. How can they be, if
they do not trust their God enough to leave us to God?
So, we leave you to God
and you leave us to God. Go and study, and come to your
conclusion. And, that is the best way to do this.
Go ahead, Lou.
In the explanations of the Prophecies of Daniel, Tablet 5, verse 4,
you said that the… Could you please explain when he says that.
“The host of heaven will be cast down and be trampled under.”
Well, the host of heaven are God, His Hierarchy, His Revelation, and
Truth that is Spirit, is intuition, and is in the Scriptures as have
come from God and been given to humanity. Of course, they were
partial, every revelation to this point was a part of a greater
truth, as we have been talking about all day. But, they had a
lot of truth in them until the intellectual domination, around 2,300
years ago came to earth and eventually became the dominating force
has become a religion by itself. And, there are some people
that intellect is superior. Actually, some people call
themselves logical men (?). So, that is why they trampled and
brought down the Truth of God to earth. And, there-fore, we
can see this intellectualization continues to this point.
Again, that is another
sign of the end of time. We do not oppose intellectualism but
it has a limit. Intellect has a limit. It can go so far.
When it gets to the Spirit, it completely cannot go any further.
And, that is why there
are great intellectuals, like Einstein. He eventually came to
the conclusion that there is an order in the universe. There
is something beyond our intellectual understanding of the universe.
There is some Spirit there, and therefore, he concluded that
intellect is not the ultimate thing on earth.
There are many people who
believe the intellect is superior and religions are… Of
course, I do not blame them because most of the people who follow
religions are emotional. They are not very logical many times.
And, they just say, “You have to have faith in this mission.”
Yes, you have to have
faith, but at the same time, your faith can be based on intellect
and intelligence. As I have said, “Do you want to know God
exists? God said He is going to do this, and He did.”
Intellectually and from the intelligent point of view you have to
say, “I have no choice but to accept that God exists. Now, I
do not understand it. Intellectually I am trying to understand
God,” which, you cannot understand God intellectually. You
have to experience God. You have to have a relationship with
God. You have to directly know God. You have to…
That is something that no one can intellectually explain.
How many people try to
explain God intellectually and still have not? Someone used to
tell me that, if the whole universe became paper, all the trees and
everything else became pens, the whole ocean became ink, and if you
started writing about who God is, at the end you are finished, all
the pens are broken, the oceans are dried, and still you have not
even started saying it [laughing].
So intellectually, you
cannot explain God. You have to experience God. But,
experience, direct experience, is beyond intellect.
And, no one teaches it.
Go to any school, do they teach to meditate, to awaken your
spiritual forces, to have a direct relationship with God, and
experience Him? No, they do not.
They say, “Be logical.
That is not logical what you are saying, ‘Oh sit there, meditate,
and experience God?’ What are you talking about? ‘Oh
God, Oh, OK, that thing.’”
The moment you talk about
God to someone, some people, especially in the world of education,
they say, “Oh, you are one of those. You talk about God.”
But our teaching is a
very intelligent way of explaining God, that exists.
Therefore, now that is another thing unified, intellect is unified
with Spirit here in the Mission. You can be
intellectual but at the same time realize that your intellect has a
limit. To this point intellect was bringing the correct
intuitional understanding of God down, and that is what that verse
Go ahead, Ultiman.
I did not mean to be rude or anything. You asked what purpose
would it serve. It is just that I would feel better just to
hear you say it. You know what I mean?
The Bible says
that, I guess you would be aware of the verse that no spirit not of
God can say that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. So, that
is all. You would make me, and some other in here feel better,
just to hear your say it. I did not mean to be rude, it would
just make certain people feel better to hear you say those words.
No, Ultiman, I did not say that you were rude. Not at all.
I was not directing that to you at all. I was directing it to
other people who come to our room and do those things.
No, no, no, you were very
nice, actually. I appreciate the way you brought the question.
And, we can discuss it. You come to our room and be nice and
bring this discussion. I do not mind at all to discuss it with
you at all.
I was talking about the
other people who do that. Do not think about… I did not have
the slightest bad feeling about you at all. So, I am sorry
that you thought, I thought that you did something that was not
kosher or anything [laughing]. No, actually, it is true.
We do believe that Christ came in the flesh. That he was the
Son of God. That whenever he was connected to God, he was God.
So actually, we do not
fulfill the saying of the New Testament that we do not
believe that Christ came in the flesh and therefore, we are
That verse does not apply
to us at all.
And, no, no, I did not
think you said anything wrong at all. So I think there is some
misunderstanding there. Not at all, I was just talking about
some other people who do that.
Go ahead, Ultiman.
That is OK, but just to hear you say those words, Jesus Christ is
come in the flesh. So, he did come. It would really make me
and maybe some other people feel a lot better just to hear that one
sentence. If you reply and just say that one thing, just that
one sentence, that would be it. It would just make me, and
maybe some other people feel a lot better just to hear those exact
words. Just you say it, that one sentence, and that is it.
OK, Esa did come in the flesh. Yes, Christ came in the flesh.
He was a man by the name of Esa and he had the Spirit of God in him.
He was the Messiah, the Son of God. And, he fulfilled the
prophecies of his coming. And, we believe in that 100%, no
doubt about it. I hope you feel better now [laughter].
Tec, go ahead.
Well, if it is God, there is a tribute (?) of God saying that He
never changes. Then Christ is God in the flesh. Then I
notice that you had mentioned the past tense element about Christ
being in the flesh. You seem to denote a time element, but if
God never changes and Christ is God in the flesh, then Christ is
still himself and God also. Go ahead.
Are we talking about Esa, or are we talking about Christ as God
Himself? As I said, if you read our teaching probably that
question would have answered very easily. Christ in one time
said that he is the way, the truth, no one goes to the Father but
through him. And, another time someone called him Good Rabbi,
and he rebuked that person and said, “No one is good but God.”
Hummm, how could that
happen? If he is God, how can he say that only God is good and
he is not good? Therefore, there is a separation there.
There was another
question that someone asked some time ago that, “If Christ was God,
who was he praying to?” He was praying to the Father.
There is a separation there. How could it be, that if he is
God, then he prays to another third person and therefore, there is a
separation between the two?
So, there is a
contradiction there, isn’t there? One time he is the way, he
is the Father, no one goes to the Father but through him, the Father
and he are one. Another time he prays to the Father and even
says that he is no good and God is good.
To this point, of course,
no one has been explaining this very correctly. We have been
explaining this for the last twenty years. And, those who are
in the Mission know the answer very well. Actually, I
can ask one of them and they can tell you exactly what it means and
how it is explained.
The explanation is that
God is a Spirit. God cannot come to man and say, “Here I am.”
And, even if He comes, probably almost 100% of humans could not hear
Him because they are not in the same wavelength and the same level
that He is.
That is why He
prophesizes of a coming of the Messiah, of the coming of a teaching,
of the coming of a Prophet, of the coming of a person with a
physical body. He is born from a woman. He is raised
like a regular person, but ultimately he manifests God’s revelation
to humanity and he fulfills the prophecies that God has given about
He is unique. You
cannot find anyone else on earth as unique as this person.
And, that is how you know that he is the mouthpiece of God. If
he is not unique, and he has not fulfilled the prophecies, he cannot
claim to have the Word of God for humanity.
And, that is what Christ
did, he fulfilled the prophecies. He was unique. But, he
was a man, which the Spirit of God came through.
In those moments that the
Spirit of God came through him, the Father and he were One.
But, in other times that he was a regular person, walking around,
and the Spirit of God was not upon him, he was no good. He was
just like every other man on earth, as every other man is.
They are not good. They are not God. They are not godly.
They have a lot of desires, attachments, and all of that.
Of course, he was a very
high Soul, for sure, that he was chosen for God to come through him.
So, that is very simple. If we are talking about the Christ as
a man, there is a time limit, he changes, he dies actually.
Ultimately even if he was raised again, he eventually left his body
and was a man. But if we are talking about the Christ, the
times that God came over him and through him, that God is, Is.
Actually, if you read our
teaching again, if you have read our teaching, we say, God Is.
If you put anything in front of IS, He becomes. God is
compassionate. God is love. God is whatever you put in
front of Him, God becomes it.
So God was, is, and will
be forever. That God, that Christ in that sense has always
been here and will be here forever. And, that is, or God has a
Plan, had a Plan to send Seven Revelations to humanity, and each
revelation had some part of a greater truth.
revelations are all going to be put together as one revelation in
the book sealed with the Seven Seals. That book now has been
opened, and, according to prophecy, “No one can open that book but
the Lion of the tribe of Judah.”
See again, the uniqueness
of the revelation, of the prophecy, or God’s saying. If you
have the slightest interest in the truth and what God said, that
should be enough for you to realize that this vessel, this
Revelation, is the truth, what comes out of this mouth is the Word
of God, and there is no separation between the Father and I.
And no one goes to the God, to the Father, but through me.”
So, you can see the same
words, the same expression. But, I am a man. I am a man,
a regular man. It never happened in the whole of human
history, never, ever, a Prophet came that he was not born from
flesh, from a woman and did not come the way every Prophet came.
So, we have the truth,
and we have the dogmas. Get the dogmas out of the truth, see
the truth, and see the Word of God has been fulfilled here and now.
Then say, “Yes. Then I will forget about my dogma and accept
the truth.” Then you will see that we are one and we do not
have anything to be arguing about.
So, that was the
explanation. So how you see the Christ makes the words truth
Go ahead, Ultiman.
I know you said some other things in answer to my question, but I
need to hear the exact words, please. Just the one sentence,
Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.
Just the exact words, just that one sentence. Nothing else.
Just, please, those exact words.
No, you will not hear the exact words because his name never was
Jesus. The name Jesus… I am never going to confess,
Jesus came as God. Never. That is because Jesus is the
word “Je” comes from the Sanscrit
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the Sanscrit is a part of
the Hindu-European language. And, Latin comes from the
In Sanscrit “je” means
“victory.” And “sus,” or the rest of the name comes from the
name Zeus. So, whenever you pray in the name of Jesus,
actually you are praising Zeus, and you are professing that Zeus
comes in the flesh as God. And, that is not correct.
His earthly name was Esa.
He was never called “Jesus.” So, you have to correct yourself
first, in his name, before you can confess that he came as the Son
He never came by the name
Jesus. The name was changed after many things changed in
Christianity. There were many things that had been influenced
by the Roman and Nordic teaching, and European teaching before
Christ in Christianity. But, the purest form of Christianity
has been revealed now in our teaching. Therefore, his name
never was Jesus, and I will never, ever, confess that Jesus was the
Son of God.
But, if you want to
confess that Esa was the Son of God, I will readily do that, because
that was his name. Some people call him Yeshua.
Actually, Yeshua is the corrupt name, is his sacred name that cannot
be pronounced. Yeshua is not his true name either. But,
Yeshua is a corrupt name just like Y’weh. Y’weh is the corrupt
name of the name of God. Both Yeshua and Y’weh were not his
His true sacred name is
revealed through the Mission to those people who come, become
a part of the Mission and our work and show that they are
truly here to manifest God’s qualities and do His Will. They
will eventually receive the name of the Father and the Son and will
receive The Holy Ghost.
So, his name never was Jesus.
And, if you beg me and plead with me, “Please say what you want me
to say,” I do the same thing to you.
Go ahead, study, and see that a lot of
things that you believe are dogmas. The truth is that his name
was not Jesus. His name was Esa. Get rid of the dogmas
and forget about everything but those red writings of Christ.
And, read our teaching.
Actually, probably the
Bible I recommend is the Jefferson’s Bible. That
has gotten rid of a lot of dogma in it. Read the
Jefferson’s Bible and believe on that. Probably it will be
much better for your Soul and for your salvation than believing in
things that have no truth in them, and then insisting that other
people follow a wrong teaching.
Go ahead, Romus.
I have a question. It is a funny thing that you just
mentioned… I have read a little bit about you, your website and
everything. And, you want to synthesize the world’s religions.
Where does paganism fit into this, if it does at all?
I am not trying to synthesize anything. I am just a revealer
of the truth. What I am saying, God has already synthesized
it. God already knew that each of these religions are a part
of the greater truth.
Where do the pagans fall
into this teaching? Pagans also believe in meditation and
awakening of your spiritual forces. The only problem is that
pagans direct the energy they gain through those practices, toward
the world. They direct it externally, instead of internalizing
it and bringing internal salvation.
externalize it through gaining the material world. Therefore,
my suggestion to them is to direct that energy internally, follow
the Eternal Divine Path, and see our teaching.
What you do is OK.
Meditation is OK. Incantation for helping the community, in
the sense that it is God’s Will, is OK.
But if you replace your
will in place of God’s Will, then you are misusing the energy that
God has given to you and you are using it to gain worldly, material
things, which is not the goal of the life.
The Goal Of The Life Is
To Be(come) Divine, and to be(come) Divine means to become Godly, to
become compassionate, loving, understanding, a seeker of the truth,
get rid of the dogmas, understand what God’s Will is, what His Plans
are, and follow that. Therefore, pagans can become a part of
the Mission if they realize that they have to follow the
Eternal Divine Path, create the Communities of Light,
sacrifice for them, surrender and submit the results to them, and
become universalists. But, meditation and that part are
I hope it makes sense to
Go ahead, Buffalo.
On September 9th, after the World Trade Center event took
place, I was walking down the street and I was thinking about that.
And, I heard a voice, just as clearly as I heard yours. And
that voice said, “No event takes place in this universe, no thing
takes place in this universe, without my approval.”
Well, it stopped me dead
in my tracks, and I looked around to see if anyone else heard it.
So then, I started wondering about that. And what was coming
to me was, the results of it is that it was pulling people together
just to say the word God, if nothing else, to get them to pray.
Are my conclusions in
error, of getting the country to pull together, getting the people
to pull together, and getting a lot of people just to speak the
word, God? Are my conclusions in error in that?
Well, there is a saying that when God blesses humans they say, “It
is our doing.” And when God brings the disaster to them they
say, “God, please help us.” That is the nature of man that
they do not remember God when they are happy and everything is going
And, that is exactly what Christ said,
“It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for
a man who has everything, to go to God.” Actually, another
saying is that “Those who God loves, He makes them poor,” because
they always think, “Oh God, help us, help us. Please we do not
have anything to be thankful for.”
It is amazing that after
disasters people started talking about God. The word of “God”
is not that bad any more, or something that the people stare at you,
“Oh, you are one of those.” You are right, that is true, the
disaster brings a spiritual connection to humanity.
God wishes it was not
like that. Actually, God loves those who remember Him in prosperity,
when they are rich, high, and they do not need Him, and still they
say, “Yes, God, thank you for being with us. All thanks go to
And you are absolutely
correct, nothing happens in this universe without His approval, not
a small thing. A small thing He probably lets go. Big
things, that He has a Plan.
As I said, He has a Plan.
If everyone comes tonight, we are going to have the Kingdom
tomorrow. But, if they do not, He will take us there.
And, one of the things,
of course, disasters and things might happen for humanity.
And, they eventually realize they have no choice but to come
I know when we win in
something, we think it is going to be over. It is not going to
be over. God’s Plan is different.
God’s Plan is to bring
humanity together and unify them. Here it is, that is what He
is saying in this Revelation that He wants humanity to eventually
realize that there is One humanity, One world, One God.
They have to come
together and feel each other’s pain. Realize that the pain in
another part of the world is your pain. You cannot say, “Oh, I
have nothing to do with it. I have my thing here. I am
OK. I will be fine. I do not care.”
You cannot do that.
If you know God, God is everything. Therefore, the pain of
every man and woman is your pain. That is what the godly
person is. And, that is what God is taking humanity to realize
that we are One humanity, One God, and One earth.
Of course, He also has
created the universe and space. And, if humans reach space,
there are infinite resources out there. The standard of living
of every man and woman on earth is going to be even greater than we
have here in the West.
So, God has given us
everything. But, He wants us to remember Him even in
prosperity. He wants us to remember our Goal.
For instance, it is a
part of our teaching: there is a destiny for the United
States. God has given that destiny to that nation. It is
wonderful that they have brought a lot of people together from all
cultures. And, they are getting along fine. Can we
create the whole earth to do that? We can see the Plan is for
humanity to understand this thing.
So, you can see that
there is a goal for humanity to reach, and now we are telling them
what it is. And, humanity has to either listen to this, or go
If they listen to it, the
Kingdom will come very soon. If they do not, the whole
disaster is going to come, I am sorry to say. So, this is the
Humanity has a choice.
They chose it today, more people come join the Mission, the
more we can create the Communities of Light going, the more
we can show humanity that, “Yes, there is God, and there is a
purpose for it,” the sooner we can bring the Kingdom Of Heaven, the
sooner we can avoid disaster.
The more they resist it,
the more they keep their dogmas, the more we get our egos,
separation, and destruction, the most destruction is going to come.
It is not going to end.
For the last 6,000 years
hasn’t humanity learned their lesson? The war does not finish.
No war is the last war. There is going to be another war,
another war, and another war. The only way is God’s Way.
The only Way is the Eternal Divine Path. The only way
is the unification of all religions. The only way is to see
God’s Revelation and to come together.
Go ahead, Lou.
In THOTH, you said the Angel Gabriel is the decision
making. And, I wanted to ask a question concerning him.
I notice that the Angel Gabriel came to Zachariah to announce John’s
birth, he came to Mary to announce Esa’s birth, and he also came to
Daniel. But, I did not realize that he also came to Moses on
Mt. Sinai. Is this correct? I thought he was the Father
Probably you are talking about the angel, as a being with wings
coming down to humans and talking to them. That is possible.
There are people who need an external manifestation to believe that
God is giving them His Word, and telling them a message.
Like Prophet Muhammed
sees the Angel Gabriel come to him and tell him that he should read.
Of course, he was an illiterate person. He could not read.
He said, “I cannot read.” And Gabriel said, “No, read.”
Prophet Muhammed said, “I cannot read.” And, Gabriel said,
“Read,” again. And, he started revealing the revelation from
God. Of course, later on brought the Koran.
Also, we can see that
Daniel also sees angels come to him because they need angels to
believe in God. But, really angels are a manifestation of God
to make that person believe in that revelation and that message.
In reality, angels are
the forces, or the three creative forces in the universe. The
satva guna, or the more subtle force in the universe, is Gabriel.
Raja guna, or the movement, or energy, is Michael. Always
Michael was the one that conquers, the warrior, and has a lot of
energy. And tama guna, which crudifies everything, creates the
universe, makes us crude, tempts us, and we become attached to the
world and we fall into the Maya, is Lucifer, which is also the angel
of light. It means that if you realize God and the emptiness
of the Maya, the very Maya becomes a light in your path.
You realize, “I do not
want to get attached to this world. This is just a temporary
thing and, therefore, I want to go to something that is permanent.”
And, what is permanent? God is permanent. Everything
else is temporary.
Therefore, the very
Lucifer, or devil, as many people know him, becomes the guiding
light toward overcoming the external world and going toward God.
So we have to realize that Gabriel really is not a person, is an
energy, is a subtler energy to the sentient energy in the universe.
And, when the sentient energy is affected with the raja guna, it
becomes The Holy Ghost.
And, as we meditate and
we become more satvic, or subtle, we realize subtle energies and we
can know more and more about the Will of God for us, and what God
wants us to do. That is how we follow our call.
So, that is why when this
Revelation came to these people, they see a person but in reality it
is that energy or The Holy Ghost, which brings the revelation to
them and reveals to them. But, if God had not done it that way
they would not realize it.
In my case, the
realization was subtle, it was very deep, and no doubt about the
Source of it. But, I did not see a person as an angel with
wings, or whatever, that comes and tells me what to do. But,
of course, revelations come from The Holy Ghost, which is the subtle
energy or satva guna activated with the energy, raja guna.
I hope that makes sense
to you. If it does not, read THOTH again.
We do not talk about angels as beings. Actually, anything that
has a form, shape, sound, or name, anything that has a
manifestation, is not the ultimate. Do not get attached to
Anything that has a form,
shape. If it is not formless, nameless, invisible, and
eternal, it is not God. It is not the ultimate.
It is very similar to
what Buddha said, “The ultimate goal is Nirvana.” Nirvana does
not have any form, shape, or sound. Some people say it is
nothingness but really, that is not correct. It is beyond the
When you reach beyond the
senses, then you are in Pure Consciousness. As long as you see
angels and you are attached to the physical things, or you are
looking for a heaven with the water underneath, and the companion
with the wide eyes, still you are looking at the manifestation, it
is not the ultimate. The ultimate has no creation attributes.
I hope that makes sense
Go ahead, Brad.
I had some observations. I was going to ask if they were
correct or not. As I wrote them down on the paper, you
answered most of them [laughter]. Thanks a lot.
I had an observation on
the formless, infinite, nameless, and eternal that we have the
commandment of not having a graven image. My thought was what
Esa said, “What is born of the flesh is flesh, and what is born of
the Spirit is Spirit.” So, I think that having even the image,
or the flesh of Christ, the idea that you are worshipping the flesh,
but you just talked about that, that I was correct in that
observation. I think you answered that, that we should worship
the Spirit behind the flesh and that we should not hold that
physical body, because that physical body will pass.
So, I was going to ask if
I was correct in that observation but I think you just answered that
question as I was writing it down.
You are correct on that, absolutely. And, actually, Christ,
the Prophets and all those are Messengers to come bring us a message
and guide us to God. They are the bridge between us and God.
What happens if they are a bridge, we are going to God, and then we
suddenly stop on the bridge and say, “Ah, such a beautiful bridge.
Look at this, it is so nice. It is created like this, and the
engineer put it like that. It has been calculated like that.”
We never go over the bridge. We get stuck on the bridge.
And, that is exactly here
with the Mission too. I do not want you to be attached
to me, make a big thing out of me, and then get the Message.
The most important thing is the Message. If there is respect,
or love, or anything for me it is because of the Message.
Otherwise, I am another man among all men.
Absolutely, you are
correct. And, we have to concentrate on the Message, not on
Go ahead, Romus.
Magic. I am a surreal magician. If I go into a room,
regularly what people consider normal people, I do magic makes them
uncomfortable so people get downright afraid of
what is your personal opinion on magic? I am not asking if it
is right or wrong, I am just asking your personal opinion.
What kind of magic do you do?
Surreal magic, white, gray. Black magic by definition is to
force your will on someone else. I do not know if you know
anything about magic or how much you know about it, but I can
conjure spirits, for different things, different types of spirits,
as Solomon did, which a lot of people do not know.
Well, as I said, even God does not force His Will on beings.
Therefore, I can right away say, do not force your will on anyone
because you will create Karma, bad, bad Karma by doing that because
it is against the will of the universe.
The choice is the
greatest thing humanity has. You have the choice to go to God.
You have the choice not to go to God. You have the choice to
be in this Mission. You have the choice not to be in
That is why I say, “This
is not a cult.” A cult forces their will on the followers.
They say, “OK, if you go, you are going to “them,” they are going to
eat you up. You are going to be destroyed.”
Of course, they have a
point. If you do not go to God, you are going to fall into
Maya for sure. But, that is forcing the will and eventually,
keeping the members under control. That becomes a cult and the
person becomes more important than the message he brought to them,
and eventually, of course, they will be destroyed because that is
not a good thing.
Magic, if magic means, as
I said, to manipulate the energy and power of the universe and use
it for selfish purposes, I have to tell you that is a very dangerous
thing you are doing, and that is going to affect you very badly.
And I recommend, not to do it at all.
Actually, that is the
thing that they were doing before the flood of Noah. And, the
human was not as much flesh as they are now. And, they were
more in the spirit than they are now.
Actually, they could
extract the life force and live for a long time, energy. And,
God did not like that, brought destruction to them, and the flood of
Noah came and destroyed those people.
Therefore, anything that
manipulates the energy, anything that brings the energy, which is
not according to the Will of God, or in the universe, and the free
will is one of them, is not accepted.
So, if you are asking me,
I recommend, stop. Stop. Come and follow the Eternal
Divine Path. Join the Communities of Light,
meditate, and direct your energy toward the creation of the
Communities of Light, sacrifice for them, surrender and submit
to God, and become a universalist.
That is my answer.
I do not know if that is the answer you wanted to hear, but that is
Go, Mr. Hobbit, if you
have a question you can go ahead. We are over our time, but go
Thank you. If I am not on topic, forgive me. I have
been so busy, I have not had time. I know you want to stay
within the teachings that you taught here today. I would like
to ask a question concerning the Islamic belief and the Christian
belief in Jesus of Nazareth.
The Islamics say that
Jesus was not crucified and the Christians say he was. I am an
atheist by the way, up front. I am an atheist, and I am trying
to resolve between these two people, great religions, the Islamics
and the Christians. One says Jesus was crucified, the
Christians say he was. So the Islamic position is, not only
was he not crucified, he did not rise from the dead three days
later. And, that sounds like such a dilemma to me.
How does one resolve
these two great religions having this major difference in their
beliefs? The crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus was the
corner stone of Christian belief. Thank you.
Yes, I suppose that you were not in this room early this morning.
We went through the crucifixion once before. This will be the
last question that I will take and we will close the room after this
question is answered.
I say that I will believe
the later Prophets more than the former. Usually the Prophets
come to purify the religions and bring corrections in what has been
changed by man.
As we discussed before,
the crucifixion of Christ is very controversial. There are
many, many stores that have been told and accepted. Some
people even believe, and they say, there was not such a thing as
Christ because historically there was not such a figure ever been
recorded. Or, some people say, very few places is recorded but
it is not really that prominent.
Of course, there is a
monastery in India where they claim that Christ was with them, they
knew that Christ was crucified, and all of that.
Now, was he crucified?
Again, the crucifixion seems to be accepted by everyone, that he
really was put on the cross. Did he die when he was put on the
cross? That is where the controversy comes from. Some
people believe he did not die. As the
Koran says, “It seemed to them he died.”
Also, the Rosicrucians do
not believe that Christ died. They say that he did not die.
Also, a brother today was telling us that some people believe Christ
even died in India and you can find his grave there. And, even
the Pope knows about that. But, no one else knows.
See, there are a lot of
ways of explaining the controversy about it. The most
important, as I said to that brother is, “What was his message?”
That is important about the Christ and any Prophets. We have
to look at their message. If the message makes sense, if it is
truth, and if the Prophet has fulfilled the prophecy and what he
says makes sense, then he is a Prophet of God.
Of course, you say that
you are an atheist, you do not believe in God, which is OK. I
myself was in your shoes in the beginning.
do not think that you do not believe really in God, you do not
believe in the religions that presented God to you. I
recommend that you read our teaching. You will see that God
said that He will do things and He did them. If He did them,
in your logical atheist mind, you should accept that.
If someone says that they
are going to do something and they do it, they therefore, exist.
Then I recommend you see how God said He did these things and He did
them. And, I hope you eventually realize, “Yes, God exists,”
and you will not be atheist any more. Our teaching is very
I appreciate all your
questions and I will be here again next week. Believe me, it
is a very logical teaching. I love to have atheists,
agnostics, or any religion. Actually, I think some of them are
even closer to God than those who believe and are in their
traditional religions, and they just accept their dogma as the
I did not. That is
why I am here. I did not accept the dogmas and I rejected God
because the God they presented to me was not a logical God.
Therefore, if you are
logical, if you are called for this Mission, if in your
spirit you want to know the truth, you are always welcome here.
I appreciate your candor and the very nice discussion we had
together. I hope many, many people like you come to our room
all the time. We will have good discussions.
Even if you do not
believe me, at least I try.
See you next week.