Maitreya: We welcome you all to our Feast and
We are glad that we have all of you here. This is the Feast, and this is the time of celebration. This
celebration is actually the celebration of the coming of the Christ,
or God’s Spirit to humanity. Of course, many humans still do not
know that God really exists, and they are still fighting over
religions instead of the Godly way of knowing Him.
The only way to know God is to have a direct
relationship with Him. As long as you do not have any direct
relationship, you have a religion. You do not have God-realization.
That is why we recommend for everyone to meditate.
When you meditate, eventually you will have some experiences with
God, and in most cases, He will reveal Himself to you gradually.
So the Feast of Tabernacles is one of the seven
Feasts that God commanded us to follow. Most of the
Feasts that God revealed were very much related to the cyclical
timing of the year. And most of the people were farmers. So by this
time of year they had harvested all their food, they had put it in
the barns, the winter was coming, it was cold, and probably they did
not have much food then to eat. So the Feast of Tabernacles was a
Feast of using all the grain they had, make a great Feast, and make
It is just like the food that we have here, which is
very good. The people here are
cooking some fantastic food for the Feast. I am sure everyone is enjoying them. Are
they good? Yes, they are. They are fantastic.
They go to the Internet, and they look for the
recipes from different cultures. They add their own way of
cooking the dishes, and then they put some spiritual names on them. Hopefully, one
day we are going to have our own cookbook. We can give it to
What are some of the food names?
Audience: Bhakti butternut squash
Maitreya: After a while, even the cookbook
becomes universal instead of having just one culture in there.
So this Mission is the expansion of the mind. Apparently, we have been at it for many lifetimes, and now we have
come back together again to bring this Mission to humanity. We have been called to see what a fantastic
work God has done. Actually, this Mission is to glorify God. This is the
Mission of glorification of God because He said He was going
to do all these things, and He has done them.
We heard two wonderful lectures today. This morning
we heard a lecture on the prophecies, and we can see that God did not leave any
doubt in any mind of what He is going to do. He did it, and He now
If you cannot see that God really is behind this
Mission, there is something wrong. I really believe there is
something wrong with that person who cannot see that the Spirit of
God is behind this Mission.
God has fulfilled the prophecies. As we said, He said He
going to do these things, and He has done them. Even if you cannot
relate to God heart by heart, you can relate intellectually because
when He said He was going to do something and He did, does He
exist? He exists for sure.
But the difference is...it is just like you are asking the
mirror, “Does the mirror exist?” The mirror says, “No. What is
mirror? I should look for mirror. Where is mirror? Is it in the sky?
Is it underground?” That is because the mirror cannot see himself.
But if you put another mirror in front of the mirror
and say, “Look at that mirror,” he says, “Oh, yes, that is mirror? That is me.” He says, “I was looking for
the mirror all over the world
and I could not find it. Now I find another mirror and I look at
the mirror and say, Hey look at me. That is me.”
“That is what God is. God is me. God is within me. I
am one with Him. I have been looking all over the place for
something that I am it already.”
That is much better than the God sitting up there,
is angry all the time, and creates all these religions, dogmas, and
little dogma that if you believe you go to heaven, if you do not
believe you do not go to heaven and you are an infidel, we are going
to chop your head off. Or, you are not saved. Or, you are not the
That is not true. God is you. God is within all of
us. There is no separation there. If we recognize that, is there any
separation between man and woman, male and female, this race and
that race, from this side of the earth or the other side of the
earth? No, that Essence is in every person that we encounter.
Therefore, how can we look at each other as anything
else but as the manifestation, as the Essence of God? If we do that,
do we have any political upheaval, or destruction that is coming to
earth? No. We will see that God indeed is unifying, is unified.
We have to teach this to humanity. We have to create
an environment also that the political system does not have any
power over them. Give the power back to humanity.
And that is the Communities of Light. The
Communities of Light will give the power back to humanity and
will empower them to rule themselves and also become brothers and
sisters, and recognize that they are from the Same Source.
Actually, most of the people get along with each
other no matter where they are from. It is mostly those who are on a
power trip who do not get along with one another.
If we can create an environment that everything
comes from the Communities of Light, then we actually have
given the power to people. And they will create an environment that
we will not have these problems that we have on earth. We can see
that our teaching goes from the basic understanding of how to live our daily
lives to absolutely how we can bring the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth.
There is such a range of Revelation
there that we can all meditate on them and become one with what God
is telling us and see the benefit. Of course, if you do not follow
them, you do not see the benefit. It is like the doctor tells you that you have
to use the medicine in such and such a way. The medicine is good, and
it will help you. But you do not follow the instructions.
THOTH is an instruction manual for a good
life, for bringing the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth. Are you going to
read the manual? Are you going to follow the manual? If you do, you
benefit. If you do not, you do not. It is as simple as that.
So it is not dogmatic. It is not, “Oh, just believe
in the name of Maitreya and you are saved.” Well, there is
truth in that, but also it is beyond that. It is a package. You
cannot just believe in Maitreya and that he is really a
representative of God and God’s Mouthpiece but, what does he say?
As I have said many times, if you get stuck on the bridge, you
will never go over to the other side. The bridge is here to take you to
the other side. If you get stuck on the bridge, you will never
reach God. Of course, you do not destroy the bridge. If you
destroy the bridge, again you will never get there. So you have to keep the
bridge in place but at the same time go over to God.
We can see that this Revelation, these things that
Mission is presenting to humanity, and these lectures, are
fantastic. There is so much truth.
Actually, there was a Baha’i this morning asking
about why I came so early after Baha’u’llah. The person who
was giving the lecture this morning was explaining
the exponential timing of God’s Revelations. It became faster
and faster, so now, at the end, it only needed
around one hundred-fifty years for this to happen.
Baba came forty years before I did. So
the coming of the last Revelation only took forty years.
As I said, Abraham came six thousand years ago. Then
Christ came two thousand years ago. Prophet Muhammad came fourteen hundred
years ago, Bab came one hundred-fifty years ago, Baba came forty
years ago, and then it
was just shorter and shorter and shorter. So that was his answer
that your formula works, except for Prophet Muhammad who came 600
years after Christ.. It could be looked at as an exponential way of happening, and
that is why it happened so fast.
We have a great Revelation here, and I hope you are
all reading your THOTH, understanding it, listening to
it, listening to Satsang, and having a lot of questions for me. If
you do not, that is OK. I can just go ahead and say the same things
over and over again. I feel mostly that I have said everything
that has to be said. But, of course, people still come up with the
questions that we have never answered before, and answers come out
well. But there is nothing really that I have not covered. Is there anything that I did not cover in the last twenty-two years? So I have covered everything that had to be covered.
I can see how fantastic this Mission is, and
I hope you all see it as well. I hope you will see this more
in my lecture tomorrow.
So if you have any question now, I will open the
floor for questions or we can go ahead and talk. We can see how
you are doing and how the Feast is going. If you have
a question in PalTalk, raise your hand. If you have a question
here, also raise your hand.
Go ahead, Kelleth.
Kelleth: Hello everyone, I am going to jump
right in here with a question that I just had pop up in my head. I
was thinking about a consciousness and how it is crudified down to
like, rock. I was wondering what happens when the universe is going
to end? Like they say that in fifteen billion years the universe
will end. There will be many who have reached Pure Consciousness. But humans will still have to live on all these planets, which means
these planets are still crudified consciousnesses.
So what will happen to those crudified consciousnesses,
because they have not even come close to reach Pure Consciousness, but
it is working to guide the consciousnesses ready to reach Pure
Consciousness to the goal? So what happens to all the crudified
consciousnesses that will not have made it by the time the physical
Maitreya: Those who do not reach Pure
Consciousness are going to stay in a very dark place and frozen
space for billions and billions of years. That is what most Prophets
are talking about, “gnashing of the teeth, destruction, and
darkness.” Being in hell means that they did not make it. Instead of going and listening to the Scriptures and God, they
listened to man, they listened to television, they listened to the
radio, they listened to this, and they listened to that person. Instead of going to God they went toward the world.
Of course, in that state they have not reached Pure
Consciousness. Therefore they will stay in darkness, in ignorance,
and in tama guna. And probably, if their minds still exist, their minds
are full of desires, attachments, and wants, there will be
suffering in a greater degree for billions and billions of years
before the next creation comes and again we come together and say,
“Come humanity, we are calling you to come and let us go back to the
Father, back to God, and come to Pure Consciousness.” Maybe some of
them are going to be saved, or some of them will not.
Actually, you can probably relate that to what the
Tibetan Buddhists call, Bardo. I do not know if you have heard about
it or not.
It is the state, they say, at the time of death that
the dead person goes through. At that time, it depends on how good a
person you were or how terrible you were, you have to go to that
state. There are people who are specialized to take you to that Bardo. And because your mind is in turmoil and has a lot of desires,
wants, and attachments, therefore, it is going to be a scary place
for the people to go.
For those who have purified themselves, have overcome
desires, attachments, wants, and have reached a point very close to
Pure Consciousness, Bardo is not such a scary place. They are already
in Pure Consciousness. They just die. They just go to the Father and
that is it. That is the end of the story. They become one with the
Father, and their death is not as terribly taxing on them.
So you can
see that if you reach the end of the universe, when the universe is
finished, and you are not in Pure Consciousness, your mind is still
there. Your individual mind has not overcome. You still
have your ego left. There is no computer, there is no Satsang, there
is no Feast of Tabernacles, there is no Revelation, there is no
Koran, or other books that can guide you to go to God. Therefore, you will be left alone in that state for a long, long
period of time.
That is what the concern of the Prophet is. They come
here to take you God. Their concern is for you to follow the
instruction of God and to go to Him. Otherwise when the time comes,
everything finishes, and you will be left alone.
According to our teaching, that state will
come around a thousand years from now because this is the beginning
of the creation of the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth. The Kingdom will
come for a thousand years. After a thousand years there is going to
be upheaval again for a short period of time, and many will reach
Of course, you can say that God’s thousand years
might not exactly mean a thousand years of the human. It might mean
that every day of God is a thousand years. Or, it might mean every
year of God is a thousand years. But there is going to be an end time
for sure. There is going to be a time that it is going to finish. If you did
not make it by then, you are going to be in trouble.
What happens to the stones and planets? Probably
they are going to dissolve to a state different than what they are
at now. They will probably become more back to the Essence that they
were before, but not Pure Consciousness because they still have not
reached complete awareness and detachment.
But those who have human minds and have not reached
Pure Consciousness, their minds are going to continue to live and
probably think and desire and are going to be in what is called
hell. Probably it is so indescribable that they had to create a word
for it and attach so much suffering into that word that it scares
you to death. So you'd better get on with the Work of God.
But that is the truth in that explanation as hell. Of course, we do not believe in a hell with that guy with the two
horns on his head, the red clothes, and the pitchfork is going to be
there. It is your own mind. It is your own creation. Probably even the devil is the creation of a
tormented mind that created such a being as we look at him as the
devil. The devil is nothing but our own ego, our
attachments, our desires for the external world, and not knowing
The fastest way to “Know thyself,” is meditation. Close your eyes, quiet your senses, go within yourself, and look at
yourself squarely in every problem that you have.
Again, this is your doing. You have to do it. You
have to meditate. You have to squarely look at it. Your spiritual
teacher can point out to you how you can improve yourself. But if
you do not listen to him, even he cannot help you.
If you do not listen to God, even God cannot help
you. That is why He sent the Scriptures.
Why does He have to send the Scriptures? He had to
send the Scriptures, as I said, as a manual telling you that if you
do those things, if you purify yourself, if you do those things that
I told you, you will be purified and you will know yourself in a
deeper level. But if you do not look at yourself, if you do not
listen to the spiritual teacher also, or God, God says, “OK, I
cannot help you. I can show you the way but you have to walk it.”
The Eternal Divine Path is a Path. You have to walk
it. It is not something, “Oh, I am in the Mission of Maitreya,
I am saved.” No, you have to walk the Eternal Divine Path. You have to meditate.
If you do not meditate, if you do not use the
mantra, if you do not close your eyes, if you do not come to the
Satsangs, if you do not come to our church in PalTalk, or come to
the Mission and learn how to meditate, if you do not come to
the meditation classes and go through the process of meditation, you
will not progress.
It is very good for everyone to know that process
before they ask for initiation. Before this time, a lot of people asked
for initiation and they did not remember what the process was. That
is why I released it so that you can teach it to people over and
over again and eventually many people will know the process so it is
easier for them to be initiated here. It is a teaching of action.
We can see that God has already given the manual to
you, to everyone. The manual is the Eternal Divine Path. The
Eternal Divine Path is the base and the essence of the fastest
way possible to reach God.
If you do not meditate, if you do not close your
eyes, if you do not put the effort to know yourself, you will never
know yourself. You will make the same mistakes over and over and
over again without being able to look at yourself. But if you make a mistake again and again and then
you look, you sit, you meditate and say, “Why am I doing this? Why
this pattern that is happening to me over and over?” But you have to do it. If you do not do it, you are
not going to learn.
So you do meditate. You see the pattern. You
progress. Then you say, “OK, it is very hard to meditate in this
environment out there. This is crazy. I cannot meditate.”
Everyone says, “Buy this. Go here. You need this. You have to do that. You have to have television, radio, bulletin
board.” Everyone tells you about everything but God. So you are going to
go and fall for them, and you are not going to go to God. You
are not going to go to heaven, Pure Consciousness.
You say, “I have to live in an environment where
people are Godly. They talk about God. They talk about the
Eternal Divine Path.” You say, “OK, I need to live in the
Communities of Light. I need to either live in a Community of
Light, or I need to create a Community of Light." If
you have the ability, have the power, have the knowledge, and have the
essence in it that you can do it, sure, go ahead and create
Communities of Light.
But it is not an easy job to create the
Communities of Light. I am telling you right up front, it
is hard work. It is a long process and struggle You have to create a lot of
wisdom, you have to know yourself, and you have to know people. It
is a lot of work.
Actually, many people have tried to create
communities, not even Communities of Light. There is a
newsgroup in the Internet, and there are a lot of frustrated people in it
who have tried to create communities. They are frustrated. They just
did not make it. They were not able to do it.
Why are they frustrated? The reasons is because they are not surrendered and submitted to God. They
think they are the doer. They want the results.
Fortunately, in this Mission we do not. We do
not become frustrated very often. And anytime we become frustrated we
remember, “OK, God, it is not really me. Whatever is done is Yours. So let us not be frustrated, let us continue with what we are doing.
Eventually it will catch on. Eventually, people will come."
Also we realize that the people who love the
or a part of it, see it, and love it. They just see the Vision right
away. And those who do not, will hesitate. It has been proven through me and Sarah-ji (we have
been at it for the last 25 years) that people come, they love the
Mission, but the moment they hesitate, it falls apart. They
cannot make it anymore.
So, you awaken your spiritual forces. Then you
desire to be in the Communities of Light because you know
that is the fastest way to go to God. You cannot be out there by
yourself and follow all the pulls and punches that the world gives
you and at the same time, “Oh, I am in the Eternal Divine Path. I meditate fifteen minutes a week. I am doing just great. I am doing
fine.” No, you are not going to make it.
But if you mediate twice a day regularly (a half an
hour every time), you do The Reminder, you do chanting and
dancing in that environment, little by little by little you see,
“What is happening to me? I am much calmer. I am much more
centered. I am much more open. I do not need all that 'junk' out
there that they are offering me. I do not want them. I want to be in
this state of quietness, purity, and beauty that surpasses anything
this world offers me.”
So we can see that it is something that you have to
decide to do again. It is not something that you just accept and you
become it. Then, of course, the community you join, you have to
sacrifice, and you have to be a part of it.
You cannot say, “I am in the community, everyone
just listen to me, or do everything for me, and everyone listen to
me to see what my needs are.” No, everyone needs to be considered,
and sacrifice should be a part of it, of course.
And then you should not be attached to the results.
It is just what I said, a lot of people tried to create communities
but they became frustrated because it is not an easy job.
I am telling you up front, it is not an easy
job to create the Communities of Light. But, if we
reach a point that we have a lot of people in the Mission,
they have been in the Communities of Light, they spread out,
they create their own communities, and connect to the Center, little
by little our numbers are going to be increasing to a point that it
is going to become easier and easier to do.
It is just like a sheet of plastic under water and
you want to try to raise it. You start putting bubbles underneath
this plastic, little by little. There is a point
that if you put one more bubble, it rises.
That is how the Mission is. It is big. It is
huge. This Mission is a huge Mission. It has so many
things in it. But you put one person at a time underneath it and
little by little by little we will come to a point that if we put
one more, that is it. It is going to rise up, and the Mission
is going to start going.
So that is how you do not get frustrated, by
surrendering and submission to God. You surrender the results and
say, “I did my best. I did my work as much as I could. I put my
effort 100%.” But do not put 99%. Do not put 95%. Do not put 90%. Put 100% into it. That is how you will benefit 100%.
If you put 90% into it, you benefit 90%. If you put
80%, you will benefit 80%. If you put 5%, you will benefit 5%. That is
the Law of the universe. There is a reaction for any action you do.
If you put 100%, God will give you 100%. That is the
way God works. So you put 100% but if it did not work you say,
“Fine, God, I put really 100%, 110% actually. I put that effort. The
result is yours. I am not attached to it. It is your result.” And
you go on to another project.
Or, if this way did not work, use another way. Just
experiment, see what works, what does not. That is why God sent so
much education for us in this time. We have been educated to
research, to understand, to see what things work and what does not
We are not living 100 years ago that everything is
Spirit and trust only in Spirit, and everything is going to work. If it did not work in the Spirit, the work
was the Spirit. No, we have the ability to experiment and know, and
know what works and what does not work, and progress.
After all this progress, you have to become a
universalist. You have to shatter all the narrowness of the mind,
any prejudices, any separation, anything you hand onto which is
against your progress. I am not saying that
the people in the world are all nice, good, fantastic, and you
should love them with all your heart, mind, and spirit. They have
problems too. They are not realized people.
But at the same time, you are a realized person. We
have to create a system, a way to educate them too that they should
realize that they should not kill each other. When you kill someone,
that other person has the Essence of God in them, and you really kill
that Essence in them. So you will create Karma. And you will pay for
This is the Law. This is the Law that every human
has to understand, that you cannot go ahead and do things to
each other or others and then say, “We are doing fine. Nothing is
going to happen to us.” It is going to happen to you. It will. You will pay
for any action you do to others, maybe not in this lifetime. But you
So if really we understand these things then we have
no choice but to become good people. “I am not going to hurt anyone
because if I hurt another person, what am I doing? I am hurting
myself. So I will not be a hurtful person. I will consider all the
time my actions, how they affect other people, how I affect my
environment, how I affect the community. Am I really hurting the
community, or am I helping the community? Am I hurting the community? Is it really hurting them or
am I hurting myself?”
So we can see that more and more if we become
universalists, then we shatter all the narrowness of the mind, and we
know that God is everything. There is nothing which is not God. If
we love God we have to love everything in it because there is
nothing which is not Him (or Her or It), whatever you call Him.
We can see with that you have no choice but to
become an Elect, and you have accelerated your progress toward Pure
Consciousness. And I guarantee that you will not be in that darkness at
the end of the universe. You are going to be in a wonderful place
with God, you will be in Pure Consciousness, where you will enjoy
the joy of being one with Him.
So if you made it, you are very sorry
for the people who did not make it but God sent them Messengers. He sent them Revelations. He sent them Scriptures. He
told them, “This is the way to Me. This is the way to avoid the
hell, or whatever that state is.” I do not even want to know because
I am planning to go to Pure Consciousness. I am planning to be in
that place with God. I do not want to be in that darkness.
But there is that darkness, there is that place that
those who do not listen to God, His Revelations, and His Scriptures
will end up. There is no doubt about that. So the Eternal Divine
Path is given to you as a Path, a way to avoid that destiny.
After your become a universalist, you
become an Elect. You become a person who shatters all the
narrowness of the mind and frees himself from attachments and is
willing to work for the Communities of Light, and create
Communities of Light, or live in the Communities of Light and will meditate and, “Know thyself.”
I do not see any other faster way to God but the
Eternal Divine Path and the creation of the Kingdom Of Heaven On
Earth, which brings the peace and unity to humanity. It even
accelerates in a greater degree the progress of the human to Pure
Go ahead, Kelleth.
Kelleth: I want to know, will there be a time
when all unit consciousnesses reach Pure Consciousness? That means
all the crudified consciousnesses, every single thing, like all the
rocks, the wind, the water, and all that stuff? And when all that
does reach Pure Consciousness, if it does, then what is the result?
Maitreya: Well, that is the hope of the
universe. That is why God put so much effort in sending the
Revelations, the Prophets, and creating the creation that eventually
everything will return to the state of Pure Consciousness and
balance, and they will have the experience of not doing this again. And even if it happened it would not take as long as it took this
The goal is every time that creation is created, more
people will reach Pure Consciousness and will go to God. And, of
course, this process is going to continue. But it is going to take a
long time. It is almost an astronomical number of how many universes
have to be created again and again.
That original energy that created this universe
will exhaust one day. Even though the original energy always was
fantastic energy, was released, which they call the big bang and
they say that still the effect of it is expanding the universe,
eventually, it will stop one day.
When the universe stops, that energy is finished.
is the time for everything to collapse back. That is why the end is. That is really the
end, until the next creation comes.
When the center of the universe has enough energy
accumulated, again the big bang will happen, and again the taking
over the left behind universe comes and this continues over and over
again until, of course, every unit consciousness reaches Pure
Consciousness. Also, every time someone reaches Pure Consciousness,
one more worker will be there. One more person will be added to the
number that they become workers to help the universe.
So there is an accelerating process that is
happening. The more people reach Pure Consciousness, the more
they will help the ones who have not reached Pure Consciousness to
reach Pure Consciousness. So the number will increase and
point that if half of the universe becomes Pure Consciousness and
the other half has not, each unit consciousness has a teacher to
take them to Pure Consciousness. So there is much more acceleration
that will happen in this process.
Hopefully, one day we will have everyone back to the
Godhead and we will all be One as the Spirit, not separated at all
(ego). And we will be in the joy of God, Ananda, that every mystic
desires to have that experience with God.
So yes, it eventually will, but not in this
creation. That is because in this creation the number of people in
Pure Consciousness, compared with the people who are not in Pure
Consciousness, is very, very low. The number in Pure Consciousness
is very low in comparison with the people or part that are not in Pure
Consciousness. Therefore, we need many more teachers and those who
have reached Pure Consciousness to be able to accelerate the process
to the end. But at the end, yes. At the end.
But there is still that element of choice that is
always there. You have to choose not to go to God. Even if we have
99% of the universe in Pure Consciousness and 10% is not, and that
10% refuses to follow the Eternal Divine Path or go to God,
still that 10% is not going to make it. They have to wait for
another creation. If they refuse again, they have to wait for another
creation. If they refuse again… But, of course, the possibility that
that happens probably is very slim, and eventually we will reach Pure
Go ahead, Kelleth.
Kelleth: Say that everyone, or every single unit
consciousness, reached Pure Consciousness, does that mean that the
three creative forces...? That is all there is, is the three creative
forces and Consciousness, which is what there was in the very
beginning? Is that the goal, to get back to the way it was before
that desire arose in the Consciousness?
Maitreya: Yes, the goal is to go back to that
balanced state of being. A lot of people have tried to explain what
that state is. Eventually, the best answer is, it is the state of
the unexplainable. It is not possible to explain God.
They say that if the whole
universe becomes paper, and all the liquid in the universe becomes
ink, and all the trees and whatever your can write with become pens
and you write all about God and finished all the paper that the
whole universe has created, you have not even begun to explain what
God is, what the state of Godhood could be.
That is why we have so many explanations and so many
people who think they know God who come and say, “Yes, I know God. I
can tell you who God is.” They explain God, and we still see a lot of
people still are not satisfied with their explanations because God
is not explainable.
It is something that you experience. You do not
explain God. You experience God. If you experienced It you say,
“Yes, I know God. I know infinity. It is possible,” as she was
saying in the lecture this morning, intellectually you can think,
“Where does this universe finish?”
It has to finish somewhere. When it finishes,
whatever it finishes with is something that has to finish somewhere
else. If you went all the way to the end of the universe and there
was a wall, now that wall itself has to end somewhere, doesn’t it? And where that wall ends, what is behind that wall? And where does
It just keeps going. Eventually your brain stops and says,
“I cannot think any further,” doesn’t it? Mind cannot explain
infinity because mind has limitations; it is finite.
Mind is the fastest thing in the universe. If you want to be at the end of the universe, you are at the
end of the universe. Mind is faster than light. Light is 300 miles a
second. Mind is infinitely faster. It takes at least a couple of seconds to go to the
moon with the speed of light. With the mind, you think you are
the moon, and you are on the moon. That is it. The moment you think
it, you are there.
So you can see that the mind is faster. Still, it is
impossible for the mind to fathom infinity. But the moment you
experience God, and the human experiences infinity he says, “Oh, yes,
it is possible. I understand now. Yes, the infinite exists.”
Now if someone comes and asks you, “What is
infinity?" you cannot explain it to them. You cannot tell them what
infinity is, but you know. It exists.
So God is an experience, It is not an explanation. And when you experience It, the only way to experience It is through
the Eternal Divine Path, meditation, creation of the
Communities of Light, being able to give from yourself to the
Communities of Light, surrender and submit to God, and become a
universalist. Hopefully, one day you are sitting in your meditation,
you experience God, you just jump of joy, just grab everyone and
say, “Can you see God?”
And they say, “No, we cannot.”
You say, “Oh God, how can you not see It? It is so
So if you reach that point then you have experienced
Go ahead, Ram Dass.
Ram Dass: Sal-OM. Well, I was going to ask you
the question about how come when you reach Pure Consciousness that
you are not able to explain the unexplainable, or is it just for
regular human beings that it is not explainable. But you almost
already answered the question without telling us that you know that
you are there, this is why you cannot explain it. Am I right?
Maitreya: Yes, Ram Dass. Well, your English has
improved, for sure. You speak very well, very good. Yes, that is
exactly how it is because if you have experienced God and I have
experienced God, we know each other. We look at each other and say,
“Yes, Hi, how are you? Hi God.” And they say, “Hi God.” And you just
know that the other person has experienced It. That is good enough
for you. You do not have to explain to that person what Pure
Consciousness is, what infinity is. That person knows, you know. And
you absolutely understand. You do not even question.
When you ask the question of, “What is infinity?”
because as I said it cannot be explained...how can you explain
infinity? Where does this universe finish, where does that finishing of this
universe finish, where does that finish?...and etc.
That is what I was doing when I was a kid. When I was six or seven years old I was thinking, “Where does this
universe finish?” And then I was thinking, “Wherever it finishes,
there has to be something that it finishes with. Where does that
finish?” I eventually gave up and said, “Oh, I just cannot fathom
infinity, where eventually this universe will end.”
That is what intellect is. Intellect tries
to explain, has a lot of questions, and asks questions that only can
be experienced. That is why all the great teachers, Prophets,
everyone has directed you to, “Know thyself to know God.”
It is within you. You know It. You just have
forgotten It. You once knew, but now you do not because you are in
amnesia. You have forgotten where you were and where you came from. But if you do
what Great Masters, teaches, and Prophets have recommended for you
to do, you eventually realize, “Yes,
that is infinity. Yes, that makes sense. Yes it is, but
I cannot explain it because you have to put it in words."
It is just like The Word. When The Word is
revealed to you, you say, “It is there. I already knew. It is within
me. I heard it. I knew it. Yes, I can hear it.”
But tell someone, “OK, tell me what it is?” They
cannot tell you because The Word is something within you. It is not
something that you can intellectually tell, “Oh, this is the sound
of here, it comes from there and goes here. I can hear it.”
You have to hear it within yourself, and then you can
say, “Yes, it exists and it is there.”
So that is exactly what God is. You cannot explain
You can explain dogmas. That is probably why the
human likes to create dogmas because dogmas are explainable.
They appeal to the human mind, to the human intellect. They say, “Oh,
yes, dogma I understand. This is explained. Therefore, I accept this
religion because I understand it. But God...?" you have to be a Mystic.
Matrix, it sounds like you have a question. If you
still have a question, go ahead.
Matrix: Hello, yes, thank you. Well, it an honor
to listen to you. I will first of all state that I am an atheist. But I think one of the most benign religions is the Buddhist
teaching. I think there is a lot of wisdom to that. I am not sure
what your background is but you sound like a very wise man.
The one thing I like about the Buddhism teaching and
the type of teaching that you are saying is, the concept of
consciousness, rising to a consciousness level. That is because I
believe that in our individual lives we have the potential of
evolving, and on a societal level we all have the potential of
evolving. And so I was wondering if you have any suggestions of ways
to raise your consciousness, as you would call it, I guess I would
call it evolving, aside from meditation.
I went to meditation meetings for about three years
and all that usually did for me was I just ended up falling asleep
along side the old Indian men next to me, which is fine because I
like their company.
What would you say to an atheist, what is the way to
raise your consciousness? Thank you.
Maitreya: Yes, sure, Matrix, actually, you are
an atheist because you have not found the true religion, or the
truth. You are probably an atheist because someone gave you a bunch
of dogmas, told you to follow them, and you said, “Well, they do not make
sense to me. I am not going to follow this.”
That is exactly what happened to me. You can
say I had an
atheist background as well because the religion they were teaching
me was not satisfactory to me. There was a God up there called,
“Allah.” And I said, “Why? If you can show me God, I will
believe in Him.”
Of course, God eventually showed Himself to me and I
believed in Him. One of the things about our teaching, even atheists can
benefit from it because if you read our teaching it
says that God said He was going to do these things, and He has done
Historically, scientifically, and spiritually it is
proven everything in THOTH that has come through
something that God said would happen, and it happened.
But God is not a person. God is not someone sitting
on a throne up there and everyone around him sitting there with Him. God is Consciousness and the three creative forces in the universe. That is what God is.
You can relate to that easily because it is based on
science. We had a lecture that was given here, about
creation and history. You will see how creation and history are
explained in the Mission. It is logical.
Even the creative force, now they have come to
realize the three forces in the universe, the strong force, the
electromagnetic, and the weak force that have created most of the
things in the universe. Without the material to use to
create things, you cannot create anything.
Therefore, we need consciousness to use as a
material with these three forces to create, which of course, has the
ability to create the gravity. And gravity is the accumulation of
So if you read our teaching you will see, really God
exists, God, which is consciousness. And It is within you. It is
you. It is not up there away from you. And you will probably say,
“Yes, I am not atheist anymore because I can see that consciousness
That is exactly what happened to me. Eventually, it
made sense. God is everything. It is consciousness. It is the
creative force. It is logical. It is very viable. It is scientific. Therefore, my mind accepts it.
To have a suggestion for spiritual progress or going
to higher consciousness, or whatever you want to call that, is the
base of our teaching. It is based on the Eternal Divine Path.
It covers five steps which start with the first step, meditation.
You also said that you fell asleep when you were
meditating. You should not lie down when you meditate because the
body is lazy. The flesh is weak; the spirit is strong. So you fall
asleep. When you fall asleep, you really are meditating, but you are
not aware of what is happening. You are asleep.
Really, meditation is a sleep, at the same time
being aware of what is happening. You meditate when you are sitting
up so you are not really falling asleep. You have to be aware of
your sleep, of your dreams, of your consciousness, of what is
happening within you. You look at them and see how your mind works.
The moment you close your eyes, your mind starts
taking over. It says, “Oh, no, he is meditating. He is going to be
knowing what I am doing to him so far.” The moment you do that, they
are going to come and say, “Hello, do you remember what you ate last
night? Don’t you want something to do? You are busy you cannot do
that. Come on, you cannot do that. You have better things to do than
sitting here. It is silly. Why are you still sitting here and
meditating.” All these things are going to tell you, “Do not do it. We do not want you to
meditate at all.”
But if you continue with your eyes closed and bring
your attention back to your meditation, little by little they will
give up. They will say, “Oh, this is silly.”
“No, it is not silly. Mantra, Haree Om Shrii
Hung, Om Nam Kevalam. Haree Om Shrii Hung....”
“What did you eat last night?”
“Oh yeah… Oh, I am going away. No. Haree Om Shrii
Hung, Om Nam Kevalam. The Goal Of The Life Is To Be(Come)
Divine, That Divinity (God) Is Everything.”
So we can see, little by little, by little, your
mind is going over; you bring it back. It goes there, you bring it
back. Little by little you get the strength over your mind instead
Do not lie down. Yes, you will fall asleep because
that is what they want you to do. They want you to fall asleep
because when you are asleep you are not aware of what is happening
in your consciousness. They want you to fall asleep, not to become
strong in your meditation.
Therefore, do not lie down. Sit up somewhere. Do not
even put your back somewhere that it is comfortable. Sit in a
way that there is no support for your back
so if you fall asleep, you will
fall and you will wake up. If your back is against something you are
going to fall asleep. You have a support behind you. You are not
going to fall off.
That is why it is recommended that you sit in a
lotus pose. Of course, sitting in the lotus pose is not easy. You
have to practice a lot of yoga exercises to get your body flexible
enough to be able to sit in the lotus pose. But if you cannot sit in
the lotus pose, with nothing behind you, you will meditate. And then
you will not fall asleep.
That is still the first step. You have not even
started to follow the Eternal Divine Path. Then you have to
create an environment that it helps you to meditate more, to be more
in touch with God, with your spirit.
Then, of course, you have to be in that community,
help that community, bring greater unity to that community, and
sacrifice in the community.
Meditation and awakening of your
spiritual forces are related to the Mystical Paths, which are:
Hinduism, Buddhism, etc.
The Communities of Light are the Old
Testament, which is Judaism, and the Hebrews.
And sacrifice is Christianity.
After you sacrifice, you surrender and
submit to God, which is Islam. You become a universalist, and you see
that God is everything. So then you will progress in a
great, accelerated way that you have never thought was possible.
But you have to do it. That is the point in the
Mission. You have to do it. You have to get on with it. You have
to go for it. If you hesitate it is not going to work.
So go to our website at www.maitreya.org and
read our teaching. If you really delve deep into it, you will find
that even atheists will see that what we are saying is logical and
scientific, and is proven historically and scientifically, that they will look at it.
God is a logical God. God is not a bunch of dogmas. God is you. God is your logic. He is your intellect. He is your
Consciousness and creative force in the world.
So I suggest that you go to our website and study
our teaching. If you have a question, there are places you can ask
your questions. Send an e-mail to us. If you want further
explanation, we will do that.
All right, Ram Dass, it sounds like you have a
question. I saw your hand for a while and then you left. You are
back. If you have a question, go ahead.
Ram Dass: Yes, I have a question. You were
speaking about creation, many universes, and also the big bang. I
was wondering if all those creations like those ones we see with the
Hubble telescope are not just in our minds and just not Maya. Isn’t
it Maya too?
Maitreya: Well, Maya is the delusion or illusion
of separation from God. Those galaxies that the Hubble telescope
picks up, are they separate from God, or just looking at them is
Maya? I do not understand what you mean by, “Are they Maya,” or
our pursuing them is Maya?
Ram Dass: Well, I will try to clarify my
question. When we look at those galaxies, all those nebula, black
holes, and speaking about the big bang and those creations, isn’t it
Maya, all those material worlds? I mean, is it not just in our minds that we see it
in the telescope? Is it just a projection of our mind, of our
Maitreya: Well, remember, this universe is not
an illusion. If you are talking about this universe is Maya, is
illusion, we do not teach that. We do not say this universe is
illusion. We say it is a relative truth. It is not absolute truth but
it is a relative truth. It is not the Essence. It is something
created for us to progress.
That is why a lot of people think this universe, the
created universe, is the truth, is the reality. They are so
delusional into it that they believe that they have to have as much
as they can. They have to have power. They have to gain more and
more and more, and then they die in ignorance and illusion.
This universe, those galaxies, are not illusion. They
are not Maya but they are a relative truth. But if you believe that
those are the reality but they are not a relative truth, then you
have fallen to the Maya of illusion of separation from God and
taking this universe as the ultimate truth. Then you are in Maya.
But this universe, is not Maya itself. If we realize that then we can
live in it without becoming attached to it. Maybe that was your question that if
we believe that these things are truth then we are in Maya, then you
But are those galaxies Maya? No they are not. They
are a part of the creation, and they are a relative truth. They are
not absolute because they are not the Essence.
Anything that is not the Essence is relative truth. The only thing the Essence is, is Spirit; is Consciousness and three
OK, I guess our time together ends here. We had a
mini Darshan here also with everyone in the Mission. I hope
you stay with the Mission, stay with the lectures. It is very
important to come to the lectures. A lot of good information is
going to come out. We have good lecturers here. And they are going
to give us a lot of beautiful things about the Mission.
There was a lecture about the prophecies this
morning that covered fantastic things that even I did not know when
I started the
Mission. Now I know [laughing]. It is truly God that has
revealed to the point of exactly the address where the Revelation
was going to come. Even, as I said, to the city. The only thing it
did not say, it did not say the number of the house and the street, what number
it is. Otherwise, it has given the exact address where this
Revelation is going to come.
We are going to talk about that tomorrow. There will
be a lecture that we will have about the Seven Seals tomorrow at
9:30 AM. We will discuss that.
Also John talked about that we gave the system. There is going to be another lecture on the system. It will be given
by Radah. She knows that system inside and out. And we will probably
enjoy it very well. Probably it is good to come to all of them. The
schedule is there.
The only thing you cannot participate in is the
food. Otherwise, everything else in the Mission you can
Well, of course, if you want to participate in the
food too, then come over [laugher]. Plan for next year. Come here
and enjoy the fantastic environment and the food that is made here
So we have the food of mind, food of spirit, and
food of the physical body all in one place. We unified that too [laughter]. We
combined them together.
I leave you to God. Sal-OM everyone.