Below is a conversation we had with someone
in Facebook about Swastika. There are
many information exchanged that might be of
interestest to some people. Espxcially
to those who are as emmotional as Zak was
about this matter:
Zak Mir
the form in the middle of the symbol
is swastika
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NE:
Sal-Om (we pay our Salutations to the
Divinity within you) Zak Mir,
It seems you have bad feelings about the
swastika (we call it lotustica), probably
because of how Hitler and the Nazis used it.
However, they misused what is actually a
powerful, positive, and extremely ancient
spiritual symbol, found in relics and
artifacts all over the world from Japan to
India to the Native Americans. The very plus
sign (+) is derived from the swastika. 5
years of misuse should not outweigh 5,000
years of sacred history! For more
information, see:
http://maitreya.org/swastika/index.htm
Zak Mir
as it was misused
it would be nice of you
to pay respect
to the eyes
that it sore
JE:
Sal-Om Zak,
Should we no longer use knives for any
purpose, because a murderer once used a
knife for evil? Nothing is good or bad in
this universe, only how it is used makes it
good or bad. In our symbol The Greatest
Sign, the swastika holds a very important
meaning that humanity must learn. For more
information, see:
http://maitreya.org/english/GS.HTM
The Greatest Sign was created and Perfected
by Maitreya Himself. It is the very base of
Maitreya's teachings, the unification of all
religions, the complete Path of God, etc.
Asking for this Sign to be changed is asking
to change the Word of God itself!
It is necessary for everyone to overcome
their attachments and preconceptions to
signs, idols, symbols, and anything in this
physical, manifested universe. Instead, see
what they truly mean, understand and focus
on the spiritual significance and symbolism
behind them, and use that to further the
spiritual progress of all!
Zak Mir
the idea of oneness
does not require any symbol
the lotus is fine
there is no need to carve a swastika in its
heart
you may harden your heart
to not listen to what i say
and go around it
we need no symbol at all leading us to unity
we just need to comprehend the idea of
oneness
you will not unite people with a symbol
used by the nazis
that acted against God
you are free to make your choices
do not fail to distinguish between your
choices
and the choices of God
you do not speak for or choose for God
you only do so for yourself
i brought to your attention
how offensive the swastika is
you can choose to ignore it
but your choice
will come back to you
as it is the way
of the universe
i comprehend oneness
i need no symbol
nor a flag
to know of the unity
of all there is
for God is one
and so is all His creation
JE:
Sal-Om Zak Mir,
It seems you are judging us based on your
emotion than facts.
Swastika is a very ancient symbol which has
nothing to do with Hitler. Just search for
it in the Internet and you will learn that
it is more good than evil. Indeed even
German government has recognized it and in a
ruling in a court in Germany they have now
only ban a very narrow kind of swastika:
http://en.epochtimes.com/news/4-9-4/23097.html
.
You can even learn more about swastika in
our website:
maitreya.org
.
Do not judge a book (organization, Truth) by
its cover.
JE
The Epoch Times | German Court Approves
Swastika Use
en.epochtimes.com
Beginning in October 1999, the German police
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Zak Mir
it is your choice
to not want to understand what i am telling
you
it has nothing to do with emotions
you cannot cage an idea
in a symbol
or organization
the idea of oneness and unity
does not need a symbol
it is an open concept
all inclusive
and non exclusive
an organization is exclusive
and so are flags and all exclusive ideas
manifested in symbols
the swastika is a symbol of hate
no matter what the truth you hold is
no matter what court decided what
you are free to use it as you wish
just do not expect to unite too many people
under your symbol
that pretend to unite all religions and
beliefs
with a swastika at its core :)
you are free to not understand what i am
telling you :)
JE:
Sal-Om Zak Mir,
Sorry you feel like that way. What you say
is your understanding (based on your
religions and background, etc.), and maybe
opinion of a a fraction of human population
(mostly west and orthodox Jews). The symbol
of swastika has been used all through
history and is a part of many great
religions on earth. No longer the ideas from
west will be the dominating theme on earth
as it is time for humanity to realize the
Truth of things instead of what few believe.
The rest of your post are purely your
opinions and God does not agree with you as
He has sent the Symbol we use. There is no
way for us to change that symbol as it will
offend God. We rather offend people with
narrow view than Him.
If our teachings and symbol offend you, you
are welcome to leave this group. We would
rather you did not though and would have
expanded yourself to see God's Way and His
Symbols!
JE
Zak Mir
God has no symbol
nor does He need any
God has no shape no form no sound and no
color
and God has all shapes all forms all sounds
and all colors
no one stands between God and each of us
i do not need you to teach me about God
or what God would like us to be like
do not pretend to speak for God
nor to know what God wants
those who do not understand
need symbols
those who do
do not need any symbol
i am not religious
nor do i accept any organized religion
or think that any of them could unite with
another
or lead humanity to peace
i do not need your symbols to expand
understand and comprehend all i can
fare well into your life
i cannot be a part of any group
for all is one
and all groups
stand in contradiction to oneness
good luck to you in uniting all religions
why don't you start with islam :)
to find out how far you may go :)
JE:
Sal-Om Zak Mir,
:), that is the problem isn't it. Read your
post and see how many "I" you have used.
As far as you think YOU ARE the does God
cannot help you. When you could see that He
is the doer then you might realize that God
is going to unify them all, not you and/or
i!
Sorry to say that you have realized much and
then you resist to take the Final Step:
Surrender to God and His Prophet!
JE
Zak Mir
the prophet ?
which one ?
muchammad ?
yeshua ?
eliyahu ?
no one stand between God and any person
go preach your unity to the muslims and
christians :)
find out how far you may go with your
teachings :)
you teach what ?
love ?
it will never work
only DON'T HATE
could work
no one could possibly love everyone
and there is no need for it
all we need
is just eliminate hate from all hearts
fare well
whoever your prophet may be :)
a messenger can never assume the value of
the message he delivers
care for the truth
and nothing else :)
don't bother responding :)
and keep your swastika :)
surrender to a prophet ?
why ?
as if God is conditioned to anyone :)
JE:
Mission of Maitreya, Eternal Divine Path
Sal-Om Zak Mir,
You do not have any idea what we are about,
do you! And you have already jumped into so
many conclusions. That says a lot!
JE
Zak Mir
fine
i admit my ignorance
go ahead
enlighten me
tell me
teach me
what i do not know
the stage is yours
speak out
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JE:
Sal-Om (we pay our salutation to the
Divinity within you) Zak Mir,
:), we actually agree with almost everything
you have said, except your emotional (and
sorry to say: Irrational) hate for Swastika.
We also admire your Spirit to seek the Truth
and the passion you have demonstrated in
your posts. However, there is more than any
human, to this point of history, knows. The
only way they can Know the Whole Truth is to
Know the Mission Of Maitreya, Eternal Divine
Path's Teachings!
Indeed we agree with you that:
You have to go to God directly,
. that God has no shape, form, etc. In fact
we call God Formless, Invisible, Nameless
and Eternal (FINE). Anything between you and
God is in the Way,
. that there are so much dogmas and
separation between religions and also within
each religions.
. that it is almost impossible for a man to
unify each religion as One, and even more
impossible to Unify all religions, etc.
Now if these are all True then how come we
ask you to surrender to God and the Prophet?
Because: Prophets are Chosen to bring the
Words and Will of God to man. They come with
specific qualities and Fulfill the
Prophecies that have been foretold of their
coming. They are the Mouth Piece of God.
They cannot say anything but the Truth. By
surrendering to them you surrender to the
Spirit behind them (God) and accept their
Words as God's.
Their Words should take you to God. If not,
or attach you to themselves, then they are
False prophet, run away form the false ones.
The Great Prophets, however, have come to
man all through history (His Story) and by
listening to them we are Guided to Know
God's Will and Ways.
Through these Great Prophets we have the
Scriptures (Words Of God) sent to man. The
Most complete and the base of these
Revelation is the Bible (the Old and New
Testament). In Revelation (Last book the
Bible) God Reveals that:
. There will be Seven Revelations (Seals),
. that there will be Seven Messengers which
will reveal these Seven Seals (Revelations),
each is called an Angels,
. that God is a Mystery until the Seventh
Angel comes (Revelation 10:7),
. that there is a Book Sealed with the Seven
Seals, and no one can open it but Christ
(the Lion Of Tribe of Judah), etc.
(Revelation chapter 5)
Mission Of Maitreya, has opened this Book
which has been Sealed to this point in
history. Therefore no one, I mean NO ONE,
not Hindus, not Buddhist, not Jews, not
Christians, not Muslims, not Baha'is, have
the whole Truth, or Know It, until this Book
is Revealed by the Seventh Angel. NOW It
Has.
Basically: Each major Religion (Mystical
Paths, Judaism. Christianity, Islam, Baha'i
Faith, etc.) has One Outstanding Message.
When you put all these together it will make
sense and will Reveal a Path (Eternal Divine
Path - EDP) that not only Unifies all these
Religions but Leads to Unity, Kingdom of God
on earth, and great Understanding of what
God has been doing for the last 12000 years.
This all is possible because Eternal Divine
Path (EDP) has no dogma. If you follow it
you see the benefit and the result will be
what is thought it will be. Indeed if there
is any disagreement in teachings and dogmas
the argument should be stopped and all
should go back to following the EDP, the
Path. Dogmas and opinions are from ego and
will separate people from one another. EDP
Unifies!
So this is the New Wine and you have to put
It in a New Skin. Your old ideas (concepts)
and assertions does not work here as they
are all old and this New Revelation does not
fit into the old skin (it either will not
fit or it will burst the old skin and spills
out with no coherent understanding of it).
There is also a very important understand in
these Revelation that: there are those who
have progressed for the last 12000 years and
understand these Teaching readily and adopt
it the same. They will become a devote
follower and will Manifest their
Understanding and Devotion through their
Great Works (you know Them by their Fruits).
We call them Elects!
So in reality the only thing we have to do
is to provide people to hear this
Revelation, at least, once. If they are one
of the Elects they see the Truth in them and
that is it they are converted to this New,
and Ultimate, Truth.
God has already made it easy for us to do
this. He has created the Internet. He has
inspired us to be one of the first people
who sat up website (maitreya.org
) for their Religion and Truth. Anyone who
ends up in that website (or hear it as I
explained above) we are done with him/her.
If they see the Truth and Join us, we
rejoices in their Spirit and God. If they
reject us we leave them to God.
So you have been told that the Messiah
(Christ, Mahdi, Kalki Avatar, He Who God
Will Manifest, etc.) has come again and is
on earth. Your expectations, or any religion
you belong to, is now Fulfilled. This is the
Last Revelation of God and the End Time is
here. It is now up to you what you will do
with it.
You might say: I am an atheist or agnostic,
that is FINE too. Many such people have
found Mission Teachings Fascinating and they
have seen the Oneness of Spirit and Science
in it. Most of these people are against
dogmas, not the Truth!
Of course Mission is much more than I
explained above. If you really want to Know
the Mission we encourage you to go to our
website:
maitreya.org
, and read it in depth there. For average
person it will take around seven years to
Master the Teaching. Of course we are here
to help. You can send us an email to
questions@maitreya.org or join us at one of
our groups here, in Facebook, called: Learn
More About the Mission Of Maitreya (https://www.facebook.com/groups/LearnMOM/)
and ask your questions there.
JE
Mission Of Maitreya, "Eternal Divine Path"
maitreya.org
Maitreya of the Mission of Maitreya (not
related to other Maitreya groups) has
unified the religions of the world,
fulfilled the prophecies, and brought the
final Revelation of God to humanity.
Zak Mir question:
is maitreya a living person
or is he a spirit that revealed itself
through a living person (medium, channeler)
?
i will check out your site later
my only interest is in the truth
i accept the truth alone
and no dogma or indoctrination
Zak Mir
using mac
cannot open THOTH
can you send it in a mac friendly format ?
JE:
Sal-Om Zak,
Maitreya is a living man, born of a woman,
as all of God's Prophets have been. What is
extraordinary about Him is the Message and
Revelation He has brought and the prophecies
He has fulfilled from all world religions
and many cultures. To study some of these
prophecies, go to:
http://maitreya.org/english/PROPHECY.HTM
Indeed we do not encourage channeling or
following ethereal beings or spirits, as
that is one more separation between you and
God (then you must go through the being or
spirit to reach God, instead of going to God
directly)!
We agree with you completely about accepting
truth only, and rejecting dogma or man-made
control and confusion. If you truly follow
this, you should find great Truth in
Maitreya's teachings.
As for THOTH, probably the easiest and most
universal way to read it is online at our
website:
http://maitreya.org/english/THOTH.HTM
It is fully and freely
available there, and should be usable by all
types of computers, browsers, etc. You can
also read it in full for free at Google
Books:
http://goo.gl/JnDe5
If you would like a
physical copy, you can order it through
"print on demand":
http://maitreya.org/english/print-on-demand.htm
We hope that helps resolve your problem. If
you still cannot view it, please let us
know, and we will find another way.
Zak Mir
are you located in new mexico
and where ?
if you do have a community
can you share details about it ?
i am interested to know
as NM is where i know i should be
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JE: Sal-Om Zak Mir,
How do you know you have to be in NM? That
is one of the things we teach that NM is the
place to BE!
Four corners and Albuquerque area are one of
the safest place on earth. Many disasters
are coming to earth and Mission is inviting
everyone to move from where they are to
safest places on earth, and one of the
safest is here.
We live in Rio Rancho, a suburb of
Albuquerque. We are in the process of
creating a Community (Community Of Light).
We have some people living close by, but
they are scattered about and we have not yet
created a real Community. However, it has to
start sometimes and any time is as good as
any.
If you are really interested coming to
Albuquerque and do not want to share private
information about yourself here in Facebook,
you can send us an email to
Mission_Of_Maitreya@maitreya.org and we can
take this to private email. There will be
people who will answer all your question and
you can send us more information about
yourself, if interested living in Community.
JE
Zak Mir
i do not know how i know
i just know :)
JE:
Sal-Om Zak,
That is a good (God) Sign:).
JE
Zak Mir
what does JE stands for ?
how many community members do you have ?
does maitreya know what is coming and how to
survive it ?
how long ago did he come to this planet ?
when and how did he find out who he is ?
what is his status in the community ?
is he a teacher, or does he hold a sole
leadership/authority position ?
is there a plan how the community will be
organized
exist and survive all that may come ?
can you share that knowledge ?
i am what i know
and what i know is not me
nor do i own it
if you have the knowledge
you should know that we are all one and the
same
we own nothing
except for our choices
i am a passing soul
temporarily living in the body i dwell in
the history of the body i dwell in
is of no essence
only the travel of my soul
and the knowledge it gather along the way
is important
you can find what i know in my posts poems
and book 'IRSHALOM' (the link is posted
daily)
on this FB page and on: WE ARE ONE
i do not own what i know
nor does it make me anymore than anyone else
is
the truth is simple and no complicated
and it does not require a long time to
comprehend it when presented in clarity
the truth is important
and not the people presenting it
we should follow the truth
and not make it the property of anyone
we come and go
and the truth stands forever
it is always there
even if we do not know it
JE:
Sal-Om Zak,
Q: what does JE stands for
A: JE stands for Joseph Emmanuel. Mission Of
Maitreya (this page) that we are posting in
is not the best place to answer your (or
anyone's) questions. It does not post who is
answering your question but uses the name
"Mission Of Maitreya, Eternal Divine Path"
as the name of the person. So you did not
know that Joseph Emmanuel was answering you.
Others also answered you but you did not see
their names either, etc. A better place to
ask questions and learn about the Mission is
the group called Learn More About The
Mission Of Maitreya!:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/LearnMOM/.
There it shows who is answering you.
Q: how many community members do you have ?
A: One of the most difficult task,
especially in the west (it is not easy in
the east either:)), is creation of a
community. Now add to that: Creation of
Communities of Light, which requires even
greater amount of sacrifice and discipline,
that seems almost an impossible task. We
have been at it for last 30+ years and none
exists at this time. In fact our conclusion
is that: Mission will not even try to create
Communities. Our conclusion, after all this
time is that: At this time we are trying to
staff the Mission and reach out to humanity
and spread the teachings. We feel
Communities, which we call: Communities Of
Light (COLs), will form later on naturally.
People should come together and find whoever
they are most comfortable to live with and
start creating the 12 base for the COLs and
eventually these units will evolve to COLs.
For the rest of your questions if you read
the page:
http://maitreya.org/FILES/Other/became-m.htm
, and the booklets The MAP and The Light
(together called The Plan):
http://maitreya.org/english/WORDPLAN.HTM
, many of your other questions will be
answered (it is impossible to answer them
here, they take books to answer).
In general, as they say: The devil is in the
details. Mission Vision is huge and it
includes all aspects of life. Although what
you say in your post are, ideally, correct,
when it comes to the nifty gritty of life it
breaks down and a system and laws are needed
to manage things in this manifested world.
So we do have a hierarchy, and there are
special ways to leave which are according to
God and His Laws, etc. Although you have a
choice to choose in any way you like, if it
is not according to the Will of God then
there will be consequences.
After you read the literature I suggested,
if you still have any questions unanswered
we can discuss tem. Also if you join our
group I suggested above (Learn More About
the Mission Of Maitreya) it is much easier
to discuss things and also you would know
who is answering you, etc.
JE
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