Conversations with Maitreya
06/14/2003
Maitreya: Good morning everybody. Welcome to the Mission of Maitreya, Eternal Divine Path Conversation Room. We will be spending our time for the next two hours together, and we will discuss the Mission of Maitreya, Eternal Divine Path, the Revelation that it seems all of you know in this Paltalk room and have read in the website. Hopefully you have read THOTH and know what we teach and what we are trying to accomplish and convey to humanity and bring them together and unify them as God’s children.
At the same time, all the Elects, those who have been called to this Mission, will take this Message to every human and let them know that God is One and He has sent all these religions to humanity, and we are in the last days of God’s Revelations to man. The end time is here, and we have to bring humanity to understand that God’s Way is the only way. Any other way will not bring peace, unity, and the Oneness that we all want on earth.
Hopefully we will learn more about this Teaching and reach to more humans all over the earth and teach them that they have to come out of Babylon the Great, which is this world and come together as Children of God and therefore work together to spread this Message to humanity to every corner on earth.
God has brought us these tools so we can easily accomplish this because we can indeed reach every corner on earth with the website, with our connection to the Internet, with going and talking to different people and letting them know that they are not separated from each other, and each of them is a part of a greater truth.
This greater truth is the Teaching that we have brought to humanity and unified them as the Revelation of the Seven Seals which comes at the end time, and when the Seven Seals are opened, all religions of the world will be unified and they have.
A lot of people come to our room and say, “No, it is impossible to unify all humanity or all religions,” but it is possible for God. Actually that goes very well with the saying in The Revelation that nobody could open the Book. Everybody was saying that it is impossible to unify all the religions of the world, but it was possible. That is why it was so necessary for this Revelation to come and it shows humanity that yes, it is indeed possible because God knew what He was doing all along. He was sending each part of The Greatest Sign as one Seal to humanity, and now He has put them all together and shows exactly how the Seven Seals come together and manifest the Path. [reading text]
Ashley [text]: Will you talk on what faith is, please?
Maitreya: Well, there are two ways to know God. One way is to experience Him, and then, of course, after experiencing Him, you will know that God exists and therefore you will have faith.
Faith is the belief in God even when you fall to the lower nature. Even after you experience God, you do not always remember that you are connected to God. Therefore, in those moments when you fall to your lower nature, you have to say, “I believe in God, I have my faith in God.”
Faith is when you bring the greatest Revelation on earth and few people listen, and therefore you have faith because God had said He will bring His Kingdom so you have the faith. Faith is to go to the extreme to do God’s Will and know that no matter what, God’s Will, will be done.
Another way is to become religious and have faith in some dogmas and believe that all those dogmas are correct, when all the evidence on earth says they are not. Therefore, faith can also be of three kinds: from knowledge, passion, or ignorance.
Faith from ignorance is to believe in what the preachers say and not seek, ask, knock, and find the truth by yourself, but believing other people what God said instead of going and seeking yourself.
Faith from passion is when you use God, His Revelation, and His Teachings to gain material things in the world. Therefore it becomes a business, and we can see that a lot of faith on earth is on business, and they are using God to gain material things. Therefore faith is from passion and they use God from that purpose.
Faith from knowledge is when you listen to the Word of God and that is the only place that you can find the truth by listening to the Word of God. Those are in the Scriptures. Now people come up with their own ideas or explanations, not the Words that God has revealed and then, Prophets have come and explained those Words to you and humanity. Therefore you have a good grip on the Word of God.
You stop. You will not listen to anybody. You want to go to God, listen to the Scriptures and the Revelation that He has sent through His Prophets who have come with the clear signs that they have fulfilled the prophecies, they have been foretold to come, and when those Prophets come, they bring the Word of God to humanity and therefore you can have trust that those Words are from God for sure.
If they have not fulfilled the prophecies, no matter how much they say they know God, they are not the Mouthpiece of God. Therefore, you have to listen to those Words from those Prophets. The greatest way to have faith and know God is the direct experience with God.
Of course, you have to be very careful what a lot of people are experiencing, and they think that are experiencing God but they experience their own ego, and usually you know them by the way they say they know God but there is an egotistical approach or feeling is in their saying that they know God then they really do not know God. It is their ego, and they will create suffering for themselves and for other people.
But the true Words of God are sent by Scripture and through His Mouthpiece, therefore just find those things, not just humans whose ego usually is in the way and they cannot connect to God.
Therefore, faith is to believe in God and it can be of three kinds. It can be from ignorance, if it is not correct; from passion, to use God to gain the world; and from knowledge, which is to understand God and His Scriptures and eventually experience Him. Go ahead, Ashley.
Ashley: If we have faith, is it enough to have faith? One of the problems I have is understanding with 2,000 years of Christianity, anyway, nobody has ever, with faith, brought world peace.
Maitreya: Well, when Christ said that, He meant the third time, the faith from knowledge, the faith in God’s Will. First of all, the faith you have should be from knowledge, therefore it is the Will of God. And if it is the Will of God, therefore God wants that mountain to be moved, and then you say, “Mountain move!” and you have the faith and it is according to the Will of God, that mountain has no choice, it will move.
But if you are not connected to God directly and it is not the Will of God, you have a faith from ignorance or passion, no matter how much you tell that mountain to move, it will not, because it is not the Will of God. So the first step to have that kind of faith is to be connected directly to God and be close to Him and know His Will, and therefore your will and His Will are One.
For 2,000 years, Christians willed that everybody to become Christian, but that was not the Will of God. That never was, and it never will be, because there are Seven Seals and Seven Revelations and Seven Religions that had to come, therefore no matter how much they willed, it is not going to happen. No matter how much they have the faith that it will happen, it will not.
Therefore we can see that our will has to be One with the Will of God.
Now this is the Will of God and the Scriptures clearly say that when the Seven Seals are opened, there will be an upheaval on earth, there is going to be tribulation, destruction, and many will perish in the process but at the end the Elects will inherit the earth and there will be a Kingdom on earth for 1,000 years of peace, prosperity, and Godliness.
Now we can see that this is the Will of God. Now “will” this and it will happen, because your will and God’s Will is the same, but you have to have faith on it. If you do not have the faith, then you will become discouraged because you can see that the world is not listening to the Revelation of God and they are very busy killing each other with destruction, wars, domination, and ungodliness.
And you may say, “How is it possible? It is a mountain.” We are trying to move a mountain, and if we have the faith, it will move.
Therefore, that sentence is correct. Christ was true. If you truly have faith, if you truly are close to God and your will and God’s Will are the same, it will happen, no matter how hard the path looks and how impossible it sounds for it to happen, but it will.
You cannot “will” something that is not according to God for it will happen. So faith can be a blind faith, you might wish for something to happen, but it will not. Or you might have the faith or the will which is the same as God’s Will, and then it will happen.
So we have the first thing, which is to know the Scriptures, the Will of God, the Word of God, how God has been sending all these Revelations to humanity and now this is His Will. For example, you can say, “I have the faith and I can ‘will’ that this Mission is not going to happen or does not happen.” It is possible that your will is not going to happen because your will is against God’s Will.
So the first step is to know the Will of God, and to know the Will of God is through the Scriptures and the Revelations sent by Prophets, and of course, the most important one is the last one which explains everything to humanity and shows the Way and the Will of God. If still you have your will, if you still have the old teachings, if you still believe you know better than the Prophet, then you have willfulness and you cannot see the truth revealed by God, and no matter how much you “will,” it is not going to happen.
So Christ meant if what you are saying is the same as the Will of God, that will happen. I hope that makes sense. If it does not, go ahead and ask further questions or follow-up, and/or have a conversation with me. What do you think the Will is? Do you think this is correct, or something else? Go ahead.
Ashley: What you explained makes sense and what you say [hard to understand what is being said] what is His Will. I wanted to know if faith is a path, like just in the Bible, and if we ask anything in faith of God, we will receive it.
Maitreya: Well, you can ask God small things, like, “OK, I want a car,” and if you really have faith, He might give it to you. It is just like a little child that is sitting there and crying, and his mother gives him a toy. And the child starts playing with the toy, and he is not bothering the mother any more so the mother can go and do the chores and the things she has to do, or anybody who is taking care of the child.
Therefore, if you are really crying for the toy, God might give it to you and say, “Here it is. You can have it.” But if you throw the toy away and say, “No, I do not want the toys, I want you, my mother, I want you, God,” the mother has no choice but to pick up the child and then the child has the mother.
So, if you are talking about having the small things, that is possible if you have the faith that God is going to give you a car or a small little thing, He might do that because you really do not want God, you want toys and He will just give them to you so you will be happy about it, but you are not going to have God. It depends on how much you want from God. If you want God Himself and say, “No, I do not want your toys and I just want you, God,” and God says, “Go and listen to my Prophet. That is My Will and your will become His Will.”
So in the small things, you might be correct. If you really have the faith that you will receive something small, you might. But that is kind of a not really wanting God, but wanting material things. Does that answer your question? Go ahead, Ashley.
Ashley: You said if we have faith and if we ask for something, we might get it. That is not what the Bible says. The Bible says that if we have faith, we will get it. [hard to understand what is being said] Surely somebody out there has faith that it will be done. Why do not people of faith pray for something like a cure for AIDS, for example. Surely somebody out there has enough faith …
Maitreya: Well, that is what I was just saying, because that is not the Will of God. No matter how much they have the faith, which is not faith based on God’s Will, it is not going to happen. They can have the faith of the universe, but their faith is based not on the stone but on the sand. Their faith is what they wish to happen. Go ahead.
Ashley: So that means that surely that God’s , and for you or anybody else to say that the world needs to change to become more spiritual, is against God’s Will.
Maitreya: No, that is not correct, because God has already sent His Will in the Scriptures and in all of the Scriptures, He says that there are the Elects, there are going to be the last days. These Elects will bring the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth (KOHOE), and that is the Will of God. Therefore, the people will change. They will change to something that is coming to it. So that is not correct to say that this is not the Will of God, the Kingdom to come, because that is exactly what the Will of God is.
The Kingdom will come because God said it will. No matter how much they wish against it, it will not come true because God said the Kingdom will come on earth. So we can see that, that is the Will of God, and that is why God has created the Scriptures, created the Words that He has sent to humanity and explained in His book The Revelation that yes, there are the chaff and there are the wheat; there are the Elects, and there are the people who have been grown together and are terrible and should be listening to My Words and we see that they do not.
So we can see that God’s Will is the Kingdom come, and His Will be done on earth as it is in heaven, and the people will be changed and that is the Will of God. But if you say that nothing is going to change, then that actually is against the Will of God. Go ahead, Ashley.
Ashley: [hard to understand what is being said] but it still hard to explain what is faith to me, and [sound is breaking up] the correct use of knowledge.
Maitreya: The correct use of knowledge is the Will of God. If you use the knowledge that God has given to humanity correctly, that is what God wants actually, and you say having a cure for AIDS is not the Will of God. Where did the AIDS come from? Who gets it? If a clean and pure man marries a pure woman at a very early age when she is a virgin and he is virgin, and both of them are pretty pure, and they stay together for the rest of their lives and have children and follow God’s Will, would anybody get AIDS? Or if you do fornication and all that, that God said you should not do, or do the things that He said you should not do, and you get AIDS, are not you going against the Will of God?
So we can see that God has already said the way that purity and unity and cleanliness and health will come to you, and if you go against His Will, and then you will something that happened to us that should not happen? Those things God has sent to wake up humanity to understand that His Ways of purity, unity, cleanliness, and health and all that.
We will and wish to go against His Will, and at the same time, nothing happens to us. That is impossible. It will happen to us. That is why we have to go back to the Word of God and see what He says is pure and good and correct and wholesome and will bring unity and happiness and how the society can go back to the Grace of God and people will start respecting each other and be able to communicate with one another and be honest and good with each other.
When we go against the Will of God, all those things go down the drain. And the people are not honest with each other and they are not good to each other and everybody wants to take advantage of everybody else, and on and on, it just snowballs. The whole thing starts snowballing and you do not know what happened. You do not realize, “What? It is because it is going against the Will of God, and we are not following what God said is the correct way for the human to live.”
The Prophet comes and warns man, and says, “Look, you are going against the Will of God, therefore that is why you are suffering and that is why your society is falling apart. That is why you are not nice to one another anymore, or you do not have the Grace of God,” and on and on.
Then you see, the Will of God is a set of rules in the universe which if you go against them, you create karma. They call it “sin,” or whatever. That, of course, will bring destruction, disunity, and all that as the result.
So we have to realize the correct way is based on the Will of God. The correct way is knowing the knowledge of God and it is written in the Scriptures. Applying them in our lives, in our children’s lives, in our society, and eventually the effect is a society that is based on Grace, a life based on Grace, a family based on Grace.
Of course, the human is willful and does not want to do what God says. From the very beginning they did not want to listen to God. Therefore we can see that God said, OK, I am going to let you guys be together and live together for 12,000 years, and at the end of the 12,000 years, I will open the Seven Seals and send this Revelation and let you know what is My Will and why each religion has been sent to humanity, and now they have been put together.
We can see that we have a long way to go for humanity to realize that going against the Will of God is going against the Laws of the universe. And going against the Laws will create all the problems on earth.
So, you are correct, but the first step is to have the correct knowledge and then implement it correctly and use it correctly. [reading text]
Comment [text]: OK, that surely means that God’s Will is …
Maitreya: God’s Will is what? Well, you can put anything in front of the “is” and it becomes it. Yes, “God is … “, therefore you can put anything in front of God and it is. That is why God is everything.
But His Will is what? His Will is, well, you have to put something in front of “is.” If that “is” and there is nothing in front of the “is,” there is nothing really that is to be. In that state, God is not manifested. Yes, you are right. God just “is.” But in that state, God is an unmanifested God.
Go ahead Shakti.
Shakti: Thank you, Maitreya-Ji. As I listen to this, it brings to mind a question that I wanted to ask a long time ago and I never asked it, but I am seeing that it goes along with it. In THOTH you teach that the sin against an individual can be forgiven by God, but sins against society are not forgiven and this seems to kind of go along with that, with going against God’s Will such as what has happened in our society with humanity and the AIDS and all of these things. So this would be a sin against society that cannot be forgiven? And maybe you could give some other examples of sins against society. Thank you Maitreya-Ji.
Maitreya: Yes, if somebody does bad to you, it is really up to you to forgive them or forgive them not. That is up to you individually. If you want to forgive them, then fine, that is the end of the story. God made it very clear in His Scriptures that the acceptable way of unification between two individuals is to become “one flesh,” when a man and a woman come together and become one flesh.
Then, of course, they go and create a unit of family, and that is the whole base of the Communities Of Light which is that pure couples marry together and they continue to be together for the rest of their lives, and they create the families. And the family is based on the Communities Of Light, and the Communities Of Light are the base of the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth.
Therefore we can see that if you go against that, you are harming the society and therefore it is not forgiven. It is very simple and easy as that, This is the way it is. So we can see that that is the knowledge, that is the correct knowledge that we have now.
If we really understand and believe in that, then the next step is to apply that knowledge correctly which means to bring it to our own lives, to bring it to our family life, and to bring it to the society, and teach the society that this is the correct way, otherwise there will be suffering.
And there will be. No matter how much you like what I say or you do not like what I say, it does not make any difference. This is the truth. And if you believe that God exists and you believe in His Words, which He said in the Scriptures and prophecies and repeated them over and over again in all the Scriptures, now you can say, this is the correct knowledge. Now I am going to implement it in my life and in my society.
The more people understand that, the more people accept that, the more people use this knowledge correctly and apply it to their lives, the more we can see that the whole earth will come together and become Godly, and God’s community will be formed and the Kingdom will come.
We have first to realize what the Word of God does. After that, of course, we will implement them in our lives. So yes, your will is very powerful, it is the same as the Will of God. That is why anytime somebody says, “I did not realize how good the Ten Commandments or the Laws of God are until I started following them. After I started following them, I felt I am free. The energy is absolutely focused on a greater thing and I am not pulled in all different directions and I am here with a great joy of doing what I need to do in this lifetime. I am progressing in a greater degree.”
Humans, of course, are willful. They think they know better than God. That is exactly what happened in the Garden of Eden, wasn’t it? Adam and Eve said, No, we know better than God what is good and what is not good. Therefore, the willfulness of man made them not to follow the Word of God. So we can see that the Will of God is the first thing that you have to realize and recognize and implement in our lives and also implement to others.
But of course, if somebody did something bad to you, it is up to you. You can forgive them, you say, “I forgive you and I am not going to spend my energy to become revengeful and destructive and think about how I can get back at you because you did something bad to me. Instead I am just going to forgive you and continue in my progress toward greater things in a greater degree.” That you can forgive.
But what happens that affects the society and destroys it, should not be forgiven. People have to be taught. They should be educated and made to realize that what is God’s Way and make the society and Communities Of Light based on that correct knowledge, and then we will have Communities Of Light. And Communities Of Light are the base of the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth.
Go ahead Ashley.
Ashley: … In the beginning, God willed the world into existence or the universe into existence. So surely, God’s Will is the creative force. If God wills, the world will be at peace, it will, just because He willed it, surely.
Maitreya: I can see that right there that you have not completely either read our Teaching or did not understand completely what the Teaching is. God did not will the creation into existence. The whole creation came into existence because of the disturbance in the balance of the spiritual forces in the universe because there was a “wish” there, there was a desire that arose in the beginning in the universe which was in balance and equilibrium, and that going out of balance created chaos. That is why in the beginning, in the Bible, it does not say that God created the universe. It says there was chaos and the darkness was upon the deep, and the Spirit of God moved and then, of course, later He created the creation.
So that original chaos has nothing to do with God’s Will. It was with the going out of balance of the forces, and therefore that chaos was created. So God’s Will actually is to bring the chaos back to equilibrium and bring those parts of the universe that are out of balance, back to the Godhead or equilibrium or Pure Consciousness.
That is what we call God as the Godhead, Buddha called as Nirvana and the different names for the many different religions, but that is what the whole Will of God is, to bring that darkness back to the equilibrium. Therefore, He Willed the creation of the creation after the chaos. So in the beginning, He did not will for the chaos to be created.
Therefore if you read our Teaching, you will be helped in understanding in a greater degree what is the Will of God and how that works in the universe.
Go ahead, VBreezo.
VBreezo: Thank you. I guess I am having a little problem with the whole concept of God’s Will. That is because to me, “God’s Will” implies a God with human traits. In fact, I even have a problem with using the pronoun “He” in relation to God, because that also implies human traits. Your Teaching suggests that God delivers a Message through a Chosen Prophet but not that God forms judgments or expectations for humans, because if God did have judgments and expectations that means that God, whatever God is, would be attached to the results. So it seems to me that that would give God some petty emotions. I think we absolutely know the message if being remembered through His Prophets. We have a chance to find our way back to the Source, back to God, but it is not God’s Will to interfere or intervene in our struggle, only to deliver the Message.
Maitreya: Well, it is a very loaded comment or whatever, question. First of all, we can talk about if God has the qualities of man. As I explained the last couple of weeks, there are different levels of Godhead. In one level, He just “Is.” He is just in Pure Consciousness. He is completely in Ananda or Joy, and in that sense He does not have any connection to the creation or the universe, but He or She is beyond all.
Another level is the creative force or creation which in that level, God is concerned because of the original chaos and the whole Will is to bring that part back to Godhead. In that level He has a Will, He is engaged in the creative force and therefore he is affected with the creative force and at the same time He is not.
That is why the Scripture says that man is created in the image of God. Therefore, “image” means likeness. You and God are alike. Of course, He is not in His lower nature in the highest level. In the highest level there are no lower emotions like attachments, desires, and the things that makes man to fall.
Again the problem is that you are trying to explain God. You cannot explain God; you experience God. That is the way of purification and realization of God. You cannot explain It.
Therefore, man and God are in His image, and therefore for God, is the same as us but He is not in His lower nature, man is. He is neither man nor woman, nor either, but both and beyond. If you study our Teaching, God is male and female. Male is the logic, and female is the creative force. Therefore you cannot say either “He” or “She.” It is “It,” and at the same It has both potentials in It.
So according to our Teaching, we are not calling God “Him” or “She” or any gender to relate to Him, and also about attachment to the result, even in our Teaching, we expect a result. We did not say to not expect a result. When you come to this room, you expect something. Otherwise you would not come to this room. You go to Paltalk and you expect something. You go out there and take your car, you are going there expecting to accomplish some task or do something. So expectation is always there. We expect something to happen.
I give these Satsangs and I expect something to happen, to reach in a greater degree to humanity. But do not be attached to the result. That is exactly what God is. God has created this universe. He expects people to progress and become the Elects and they progress and go back to the Godhead. But He is not attached to the result. If they did not progress, he is not going to be unhappy and get depressed and all that for it.
But he expects that all these revelations and His Words will give results and fruit, but if they did not, He is God and He is not attached and is surrendered and submitted and is One with the Highest Will in the universe.
But it will happen. When you put a lot of effort into something that you want to resolve, you will eventually get some result. But if it did not happen, you are not attached to it.
So, again understand our Teaching in a deeper level, and you have to “empty your cup.” If you already think you know the truth, you read our Teaching with that color. It is just like the law of perception. We each have a different color of glasses on our eyes and see the world differently. So we have to take those glasses off before we can approach this new Teaching, empty our cups, and let It fill you up. Become the sponge. Let it soak in instead of all the comparing and judging it with your own understanding and coloring it with what you think it should look like.
Therefore, the first step in our Teaching is to empty your cup, to get to the point to say, “I do not know anything. I am a little child.” That is what Christ said. The children will enter the Kingdom and those who think they already know will not. So become a little child and approach the Teaching with that approach so do not color the Teachings with what you already know, therefore you can benefit in a greater degree.
And you will understand the Teaching. It exactly explains what happened and how the whole universe went out of balance. The whole idea is to go back to the balance. Even in life you have to become balanced, you have to create a balanced life. If we go too much in any direction, it is not good.
If you meditate all the time, you do not do anything, that is not good.
If you read all the time and do not meditate, that is not good.
If you go to the world and be worldly, that is not good.
If you become too spiritual and you become escapist, that is not good.
So it is kind of that you have to bring a balance into your life, and in that balance, of course, you will progress in a greater degree.
The Teaching is different than anything anybody has encountered in their life, therefore it will take a much longer time to really become familiar with the base of what has been revealed. It is not that God created the creation from the very beginning. It is not that God is not like us, but it clearly says that we are in His Image.
We have the same qualities that God has. Of course, God does not have the lower nature, because the lower nature of God is His creation and the higher nature is beyond this creation.
Again, welcome to our room. This is the Mission of Maitreya, Eternal Divine Path. You can go to our website and see the new Revelation. This is the Revelation of the unification of all religions. But first understand our Teaching and let that soak into your soul, and then let us discuss those questions.
In order to reach this Teaching in a greater degree, you have to forget what you know. And if you keep what you know, then you have colored glasses on your eyes and of course, you cannot completely see the Teaching but you color it with what you know yourself.
As I said, I did not believe in God and all those things because they did not make sense and I had a lot of questions that nobody could answer. When this Revelation came, they all are answered. That is why I cannot give you the answer because I was searching for answers and no body could give them to me. When I received it, this did answer me, and I am hoping that I can hopefully answer your questions and then you can give the same answers to the people out there so satisfied.
So they will become like a sponge and be satisfied with the answers, and therefore they will become a part of God’s Words. The Mission of Maitreya is based on the Revelation of the Eternal Divine Path. The Eternal Divine Path has five steps of following and two results.
The first step in the Eternal Divine Path is the awakening of your spiritual forces, know thyself to know God. That covers Hinduism, Buddhism, Kabballah, Saints in Christianity, Sufis, and many other old religions based on knowing God and to see God in everything.
Then you know yourself and realize that atman or self is the same as God, Atman with a capital “A.” When you realize that, you realize that you are a part of God.
God is everything and He is the witness entity of the universe, and He knows everything at the same time in the universe and what is happening in it. If you eventually have a Vision, you know God directly. That is why we have to go to the Vision Quest and realize God, not try to explain intellectually but have an experience directly. That is when you have no doubt that God exists.
Of course intellectually you can understand that God exists in our Teaching very easily, because in our Teaching, God said He was going to do these things. He promised Abraham that he was going to have two children and those two children would have two promises given to them, material possession which came to the children of Isaac and Ishmael, and He would send two Prophets, one from each. Christ and Prophet Muhammed came from each of them.
So we can see that God promised and He fulfilled them. Therefore intellectually we know He exists, because if somebody says He is going to do something and if He does it, He does exist. So God exists intellectually if you want to see it that way, but truly know that God is an experience that you have to have directly with Him.
But of course, at this time, we even do not recommend that. We say, “Get on with the work and let us bring the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth. Then a lot of people can go for the Vision quest and experience God for the next thousand years.
The second step is to create the Communities Of Light. That is what the message of the Old Testament is. If you go to the Old Testament and read it, the whole Old Testament is about how God was trying to find a people, the 12 tribes of Israel and they would accept Him as the King and follow His Laws and therefore bring the Grace of God to those communities.
Of course, they rejected God. They said, No, we do not want you as our King. We want a human king. Actually that is very similar to what we were discussing last week about how a lot of people here in the United States believe that the government is going to do everything for them.
That is exactly what Israelites also believed, that they want a human king so they chose Saul. And Saul, of course, became their god and they forgot about God, and that is when we see for the first time that Prophets started coming to the scene. Before that, the judges were supposed to be connected to God, and they did not have a king. But their neighbors had a king, and the Israelites said, Well, we want a king as our neighbors.
God said, You do not need a king. Actually, if you put anybody as God on earth or you accept any power or anybody who will fulfill your desire, you are disconnecting your self from God. So every human has to put God first in their lives. Then they are not going to be exploited or they are not going to be completely disconnected from God.
The whole society should put their faith on God and believe in God and work hard to bring God into their lives, and that is exactly what happened. As we discussed last week and it became so clear to me that Paul was explaining last week that it was exactly the same as the Israelites did. They also rejected God as the King, and they chose a king and they were disconnected and then the Prophets had come.
The Old Testament is about the Communities Of Light and creation of those communities. So how can we create these Communities? We have to sacrifice, we have to give of ourselves, we have to discipline ourselves. We have to follow the Commandments of God and live a Holy life, and therefore that will bring sacrifice in our life and that is what the message of Christ is.
Christ went to the cross for his ideal, and then, of course, without our sacrifice, nothing might happen. We might get depressed or something starts happening and we become elated and egoistical. Either way, you get disconnected to God, and that is when we surrender the result to God. It does not mean that we do not expect any result. We do expect results, but we are not attached to the result.
We surrender the result to God, and even greater than that is submission. That means you let God come through, “Not my will be done but Thy Will be done.” And then, His Will, will be done if it is to move the mountain. Actually, as I said, this Mission is a mountain. We will move it and it will move for sure.
So the next step is surrendering and submission which is the message of the Koran or Islam. The Prophets coming, one by one, revealed the different parts of the Eternal Divine Path. Even with the Koran and Islam, still you become narrowminded. You might say, OK, I am just going to love Moslems. I will fight everybody else who is not a Moslem, and we will become narrow in our perception.
The next step came with Bab and Baha’u’llah which is universalism, realizing that God is Everything. There is not such a thing as Moslems, Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, this and that, but Creator and created, creation and God, and all is a part of Him and therefore, we should shatter all this narrowness of the mind that separates man from man.
With these five step, awakening of the spiritual forces, creation of the Communities Of Light, sacrifice, surrendering and submitting to God, and becoming a universalist, you become an Elect. You have no choice. If you follow these five steps to the max, you have no choice but to become an Elect. That is what God was talking about in every Scripture, “My Elects,” “My Chosen People,” etc. Now we know what He was talking about. He was talking about the people who follow the Eternal Divine Path.
Now, of course, we come here and that is the most important thing, to follow the Eternal Divine Path, not to worry too much about an explanation of God, or this and that, and get to the real problem of language or explanation but, “How am I going to follow the Eternal Divine Path?”
If you follow the Eternal Divine Path, everything will be added to you and our Teaching, of course, explains everything else for you very clearly.
So we can see that the sixth step is the sign of the Paravipras or Elects or the Chosen Ones. If you look at The Greatest Sign, you will see that the sixth step actually very much looks like the Second Seal, or the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth or the Communities Of Light, and that is the Kingdom Of Heaven Within. The Sixth Seal is the Seal of the Kingdom Of Heaven Within (KOHW). The Second Seal is the Seal of the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth (KOHOE).
The same triangle upward and downward in the center of The Greatest Sign is the Kingdom Of Heaven In Heaven (KOHIH). The Kingdom Of Heaven In Heaven is already established. God is the King in heaven. Now we have to bring the God within ourselves by following the Eternal Divine Path, and bring the Kingdom Of Heaven Within (KOHW) by following the Eternal Divine Path and bring the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth (KOHOE) by creation of the Communities Of Light.
So we can see that this Teaching not only shows a Path, unifies all religions, opens the Seven Seals, but also brings the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth and shows how humans can bring the KOHOE and therefore bring humanity to peace and unity.
These Elects are those that will come together, create the facilitating body and will eventually teach humanity how they can unify themselves and bring the peace and unity that we all desire to see happen on earth. It just does not happen by will. You have to put some effort and energy, as God said, The Elects will bring the Kingdom, but that is how it is going to happen. By wishful thinking, it is not going to happen.
Again, you have to follow the Will of God. The Eternal Divine Path, this Revelation, is the Will of God. That is how it is going to happen and we have to follow it.
This eventually will bring the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth (KOHOE) and humans will accelerate their progress toward the Pure Consciousness which is the Seventh Seal, which is the Seal of the Mission of Maitreya. As in the Seventh Chakra, you and God become One, you enter Godhead, and everything will be clear to you, so is the Seventh Seal.
It reveals clearly the whole thing and Revelation of God to this point. After the Seventh Seal is opened, there will be a tribulation, upheaval, and destruction as you see is happening right now on earth. Many people say, “Peace, peace” and they try to bring the peace and they try hard, but the harder they try, the greater they will fall because that is not the Will of God.
Some people might “will” to bring the peace by their own understanding, but if that is not the Will of God, it is not going to happen. This is the Will of God. That is how it is going to happen, by creation of the Communities Of Light and following the Eternal Divine Path. It is given to us.
This is how to bring the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth. Now if you want to argue for the rest of our lives about the small little things, we can, but the more important thing is understanding that, Yes, God really exists! God said He was going to send Seven Seals, and He did.
He said He was going to do those things, and He has done them. Therefore for sure God exists. There is no doubt about that. Now with recognizing Him in a greater degree, then you will understand Him in a greater degree.
So we can see that God has sent this Revelation correctly to us and this is the way to go. Know the Teaching. It is very important to really get to the bottom of this Teaching in a greater degree and become a “sponge.” Do not become a “stone.” If you keep your own understanding, then you are a stone. Remember those seeds that Christ said, Some of them fall on the stones. Do they root? No. They cannot root, it is not soil. It does not have any “sponginess” like the soil that you see can grow and gets roots to the deepest level.
So meditate on these things. We can see that each revelation is God’s Will and therefore God exists. He is different than a lot of understanding of what humans understand, because humans have their own will and their own understanding. That is one problem. Humans go and follow the preachers and their religions. That is another problem.
Humans are oriented according to their custom and culture. That is another problem. So there are a lot of obstacles to overcome and give this message in the purest form to each person individually, because all of them have been influenced with something in their lives, and when they come to the Mission, they expect that.
They expect that anybody who comes to the Mission, they have those things. But at the same time, we have to point it out to them that, “Look, you have to empty your cup. You have been influenced with all these things.” [reading text]
UpToTheChallenge: How do we discern truth from the influences you just mentioned?
Maitreya: To discern the truth is to find out what the Word of God is. For example, two weeks ago, some Iranians came to our Paltalk room and were asking me, “Are you Sunni or Shia?” I am neither! I follow the Koran, the Word of God. If you categorize yourself as a Protestant and you know, this and that, then you have been influenced. [reading text]
UpToTheChallenge: How can we tell the Word of God from the word of man?
Maitreya: That is when the Prophets come in. That is a very good question. Of course, we have answered this many times, but I do not mind answering it again. How do we know which one is the Word of God and which one is not?
That is why God sends the Prophets. That is the job or the work of the Prophets. He prophesies for a long time that such a being will come on earth and He will reveal the truth from Me. It happened to Christ, it happened to Prophet Muhammad, it happened to Bab, and it happened to all the major Prophets that came to humanity.
They came with clear signs that they have fulfilled the prophecies. When you see that, then that person is never wrong, and that person cannot say anything but the Word of God. He is a Pure Channel for God, especially when they give a Satsang or they explain the Teaching, then they and God are One.
Their words are the Words of God. That is why Christ said, “Me and the Father are One.” Two days later, somebody called him, “Good rabbi,” and he said, Do not call me good. The only good is God. So we can see that these two personalities are manifesting, one is one with God and another one is not even good. How can God not be good? God is good. Therefore in that level, he was not one with God, therefore He did not feel good.
Such people come with clear signs from God, therefore they are the Prophets of God and their Word is the Word of God and those words are the truth, and they are in the Scriptures. That is how we know what are the correct Words and what is the truth of God and what is the word of man.
If we only go to the Scriptures and study the Scriptures alone, then we have a very strong grip on the reality of the truth of the Word of God, and if anybody says anything which is not according to the Word of God, therefore it is not the truth. That is how God is distinguishing between the truth and the words that come from man.
That is how we know the truth of God. It is in the Scriptures. The Scriptures are the Old Testament, New Testament, Upanishads, Vedas, Bhavagad-Gita. Even those have been influenced with some human input, because none of them were really written by the Prophet who came, wrote them down, put them in the Book, and said, “This is the Word of God. Do not change it.”
They have been changed by humans and influenced even the Bhavagad-Gita. If you read it, you can see some human influence in it, for example, the caste system. If God is everything and there is no separation in it, there are no such things as “untouchables.” And you can see there in that book there are untouchables, therefore, there is human influence right there.
Or you can see in the Old Testament, there is a lot of influence of the human in it. The parts that are truth have been explained in THOTH clearly, and of course, there is a lot of truth in other parts, but the base of it is in THOTH, in The Holiest Of The Holies, The Last Testament. [reading text]
Comment: I am not familiar with any books other than the Bible.
Maitreya: Actually all these books that I just mentioned are also recommended in the Bible to be a part of God’s Revelation. That is where the Seven Seals are. The First Seal is the Mystical Paths which covers Upanishads, Vedas, Bhagavad-Gita, and all those. What we teach is that you and God are One. In the Upanishads, the whole discussion is about how Atman and atman are one. They are God, as Christ said Himself also, Thy are gods, because he knew about the teaching of the Far East because he did go to India, Tibet, and Persia and learned about the Mystical Paths.
That is why it was very easy for him to say, Me and the Father are One, because he knew, he and God are one. Therefore you can see that God has already said where the truth is. The truth is in the Scriptures and when you read all these teachings and put them together, according to THOTH, then you can see the whole picture.
Then it just opens up to you and you say, “Yes, God has been sending all these religions one-by-one, and now we have all of them together in one place, and not only is it in one place and unifies, also it gives me a Path, a very straight-arrow Path right to God.”
There is no dogma in it. There is nothing that distracts me from going to God directly, and not only I go to God directly but I take many people with me to God because I have to create the Communities Of Light and go together to God and that is exactly what Scriptures say. They do not say that you are going to go to God by yourself. They say 144,000 Elects and millions and millions of others are there at that end time who go to God.
Therefore it is a collective thing. It is not an individual thing. There is not any limit on it. It is not that one person is going to make it by themself to God and say, “I do not care about the rest of humanity or the universe.”
It does not work that way. It works in a collective manner and the Scriptures clearly say that it is a collective reach to God. Therefore we can see that this Revelation has brought this Teaching now to humanity. Now this is the greatest Truth on earth. You do not know the truth if you do not know this Teaching, if you do not know this Revelation. You cannot see the whole picture if you do not understand this Teaching in the deepest level.
Therefore, anybody out there who says they have the answer, they have the revelation, they do not. They might have a part of it, but they do not have the whole picture. The whole picture comes when the Seventh Angel comes. Read chapter 10 in The Revelation, verse 7, it clearly says that it is only when the Seventh Angel comes that the Mystery of God will be finished.
Therefore, God is a Mystery until the Seventh Angel comes. Now it is here, it has been revealed, the Seventh Revelation, and of course, “Angel” means a Prophet. So there are going to be Seven Prophets, Seven Revelations, Seven Teachings, Seven Religions, and now they are all put together.
Question: Do other writings teaching about the Sabbath and Feasts?
Maitreya: You cannot find in the Scriptures too many times about the Holy Days of God. The only place probably that you can read some about how the Holy Days have come to humanity in the Koran, that Prophet Muhammad gave the month of Ramadan as the monthly fast for every day. But that was a tradition in Arab countries that they used to have a month that in that month they would not fight because it was a tribal area in the Arab countries and the tribes, they were involved because they were fighting all the time.
Actually if someone drank from a well of another tribe, his life was completely in their hands. They could kill him or something like that. So there were a lot of wars going on between them, and they decided for one month they were not going to fight. In that month they were all going to be in peace, go to Mecca, and worship their gods. Each tribe brought their own god, they had 365 gods that they brought to that city.
In that month of Ramadan, they had peace, they could go to Mecca and worship their god, and all that. Prophet Muhammad accepted that month also as the month that Moslems have.
So, that is not really from God. That is a tradition. The only place in the Scriptures that God clearly sent His Holy Days is in Leviticus, chapter 23, where God clearly said that these are My Days.
Go ahead, VBreezo.
VBreezo: Yes, looking at the calendar, I was curious about the night I see in the lunar and solar calendar for the Mission. The day starts at sunset, and I was wondering why the day doesn’t start with sunrise and end at sunset? To me that would seem more logical.
Maitreya: In the Scriptures God said, In the evening and the morning were the first day. The evening came first, and the morning came second. Still in the East, people are following the same tradition. Sunday night in the East is still Saturday night in the West.
That tradition was changed by Rome. That is one of the things that Rome changed, time. Time starts at 6:00 in the evening but they changed it to 12:00 in the middle of the night. They say, “It is midnight,” and one minute later it is in the morning. What happened? We were in the midnight and one minute later, it is one minute into the morning. What happened to the rest of the midnight? Midnight means “middle,” so we still have around six more hours to go.
So we can see that, that is not the way it used to be. Still some cultures are following that, but that is not the way they chose that way, it was because of God’s Way that it says, The evening and the morning was the first day, the second day, the third day, etc. Even in the Bible, if you study the New Testament, Christ was talking about, A man went in the third hour, in the morning and hired some people. The third hour in the morning is 9:00 AM because the way when it is 6:00 AM and 3 hours + 6 hours is 9:00 AM for us, but for them it was 3:00 AM. And it says he went and hired then at 9:00 in the morning, and then he goes at 6:00 in the morning, which is at 12:00, and hired other people. Then he went at the 11th hour and hired some people, which is 5:00 in the afternoon. At the 12th hour of the day he paid them equal wages, and the people who had been hired at 9:00 in the morning (which was 3:00 in the morning), by their time were mummering against him and the story goes on.
He answered, I can do whatever I want to do with you, you cannot tell me what to do. It goes very well with, The first will be last, and the last will be first. I means, if you are in the Mission for this amount of time, there is no superiority but whoever progresses faster to God is the most important.
The whole point is that that is how even in the Bible, it says that there was the night and the day. Each of them have 12-hours and it started at 6:00 in the evening and 6:00 in the morning, because the night starts at 6:00 in the evening. Actually the night starts at sunset.
That is when the night starts. If you go to those old villages, you will still see that people go to bed around 7-8:00 at night because it gets dark. They do not have television or lights or anything like that, they just go and fall asleep. That is how the day and night is taught.
That is again Scriptural, and Romans changed that, as they did change a lot of things. They changed the Holy Days to holidays, they changed time, and they changed many things that we have now.
Now we have to go back to God’s Way. Our time and calendar system is the truth. [reading question]
Question: How do we know that it is 2003?
Maitreya: Again, if you read our Teaching, in the Essays, we believe that the universe started billions of years ago. So really the human cannot correctly say how long the creation has been in effect, you have to go at least 12 billions years or 15 billion years ago. We still do not know exactly when the creation started.
So if you wanted to have a correct calendar, you would have to say, “15 billion and…” whatever to put in front of it. That is why we take the calendar as 12,000 years, and we put a “0” in front of it, and the 12,000 years will finish in the year 2018.
Many people have different calendars in their nations, but in order to unify humanity again, we have to have a unified calendar. And that calendar starts with a “0” and 12,000, almost 12,000 years or very close to it, around 15 years from now we are going to be having 12,000 years from the time of the flood of Noah.
Some people argue even the label “2003” is incorrect, as Christ was born around 30 years earlier than what we have for the Western calendar. [reading text]
Question: Is the Calendar on the website?
Maitreya: Yes, it is. It is called “God’s Calendar.” Actually Ishwara just updated it and made it much prettier and easier to access and look at. It is a very good Calendar and it has a lot of information in it. As we recognize, the day starts at 6:00 PM, actually it should start at sunset, but because the time of the sunset changes, in order to make it more consistent, we have chosen 6:00 and that is exactly also what the Bible teaches, 6:00 at night and 6:00 in the morning; 6:00 the night starts and 6:00 in the morning (current time) the day starts.
So now when they say, “It is midnight,” they are correct. After 6 hours at night, you have 6 more hours to go to the next morning. If we want to unify humanity, we have to have a unified calendar and that is what God revealed to us that is the correct Calendar for humanity and the day starts at night and continues to the next day at 6:00 in the evening.
So when it says Saturday night, to us it is Friday night. That is how God wanted it, and that is why we chose the way He has used it in His Scriptures. [reading text]
UpToTheChallenge: What about the sacrificial system laid out in the Tanakh? Where does that fit in? And will it be established?
Maitreya: What is the Tanakh, UpToTheChallenge?
UpToTheChallenge: The Old Testament.
Maitreya: Alright, again, if you study our Teaching, it explains that before Abraham, they even had human sacrifice. That was why Abraham was going to go and sacrifice Isaac because God told him to take Isaac and go and sacrifice, and he accepted it. He was going to do it, because it was not a big deal then.
People would do human sacrifice and at that time it was not something unheard of, and the human consciousness was not high enough to not accept such cruel treatment of another human. But God stopped him and said, No, do not do it, now I know that you really will follow My Will and My Command.
Therefore He stopped him from doing that, and from then on you can see that human sacrifice is no longer even mentioned in the Bible. Later on, of course, Moses came with an elaborate system of animal sacrifice. At that time, the human consciousness was in the level that animal sacrifice was acceptable, and of course, Christ came and he sacrificed himself as the Lamb of God or the unblemished Lamb. When he sacrificed, even animal sacrifice was no longer acceptable, and it stopped.
With the coming of Christ, the Old Testament really stops. That is it. That was the end of the mission for the Old Testament and the Children of Israel, and all that. Of course, Christ clearly indicated that the kingdom will be taken away from you and given to another people. Therefore, by the coming of Christ, even the sacrifice of the animals was no longer acceptable, but sacrifice of the lower nature now is replaced with that.
So we can see that sacrifice stopped there, and there are no more sacrificial animals needed. The only place where sacrifice of the animals is recommended again is with Prophet Muhammed, which he recommends sacrificing a lamb every year at a specific time. Now even that is not practiced that much anymore.
The most important thing is to realize that God within, to realize that God is within you, and your sacrifice is to create the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth (KOHOE). [reading text]
Question: So if God did not want them to sacrifice, why did He give them the instructions in the first place?
Maitreya: He did want them to sacrifice at that time. That is what the Old Testament said. In the Old Testament, that was permitted. Before Abraham, sacrifice was permitted because that is how they could appease God to bring His Grace to them. At the time of the Old Testament, that was the time that they thought they can appease God or please God by sacrifice, because the human consciousness was not as high and more progressed to the point that they realized that you do not have to appease God with sacrifice. He is God, but please Him by doing His Will. That is how you please God, by doing the Will of God.
And the Will of God is, of course, in the Scriptures and in THOTH. [reading text]
Question: Why did He teach them and then was against it. Why? Why didn’t He have a Prophet set them straight then?
Maitreya: It was because He did not want to, because that was where they were. That is kind of a ritual. A ritual is to redirect your attention from the external world to God. For instance, we have rituals in the Mission. We do the Reminder every day twice a day at least, in the morning and evening. Why? It is because in the morning, you wake up and you want to do your business and go to work. You are not thinking about God. You say, “No, stop. Turn around, go to God, remember Him, and do your Prayer or the Reminder.”
It becomes a kind of baptism. “Baptism” means to turn around. That is the whole reason for baptism. Baptism means you are going toward the world, and God says, No, turn around, come toward Me. That is what the faith of baptism means.
That is exactly what the rituals are. The rituals are for … you are doing them for God. If you are sacrificing a lamb for God, who are you thinking about? Are you thinking about your money or your bank or your interest, or this and that? Or you are thinking, I have to find an unblemished lamb and sacrifice it for God, and therefore you turn around. You are kind of baptizing yourself.
We can see that that elaborate system of sacrificing has been given to humanity to turn them around again, and again, and again. They are facing God, and it works. But that is not really what God wants. God does not want you to turn around by those things but eventually becoming a channel for Him so He can do the work through you and manifest Himself.
So that is a greater sacrifice, that you become a channel for God. That is the greatest achievement in the spiritual path, to become a channel for God. Therefore, it was the beginning of turning them around to God again and again, and that is why He recommended for them to do all that.
But when Christ came, he released The Grace. The moment He released the Grace, they did not need to do animal sacrifice anymore, because your sacrifice is to recognize that Christ came and he died as the Lamb of God and released The Grace to you. So you are free to go to God without all that elaborate sacrifice.
Go ahead Shakti.
Shakti: Thank you Maitreya-Ji. Going back in evolution to the time when there was sacrifice of humans, I wanted to ask if in some way, does God evolve, and if He does evolve, does man evolve with Him? Is there an aspect of God that evolves so at that time it was in our evolution with God’s creation, there was sacrifice?
Maitreya: Again, a part of God evolved but not the Pure Consciousness part. The Pure Consciousness part is already the highest. It does not have to evolve, but the creation which is a part of God evolved because they have gone astray and now they are turning around and going back to God.
So that part is in a different level of consciousness and therefore at the time of Moses, they would not understand the Eternal Divine Path. They would not understand the ability to become a channel of God and instead they were given all these rituals so they could … because their attention moved from the external world and more and more to God, especially because The Grace was taken from man at the time of the Garden of Eden and they were thrown out of heaven, or the Garden of Eden, which means The Grace of God.
The Grace of God is the salvation, because you cannot reach salvation without The Grace of God. It will not work. You know, you can do rituals and do all the rituals in the world but at the end you say, “Well, I am not reaching anywhere and I got stuck here,” because you do not have The Grace.
You have been stuck with the rituals and intellectual understanding and all that, instead of keeping The Grace which is their salvation. The question, in a sense is correct, that Christ brought salvation because when he came, he released The Grace that was taken from man at the time of the Garden back to humanity.
And when He did that, of course, man now can reach God without going through all those elaborate sacrifices and what the Old Testament recommended for people to do. It finished and it shows completely at that time that it was coming.
But Pure Consciousness, God in that state, does not have to evolve. It is in the highest level, but the creation or the part of God that has gone astray and separated from God has to go through the evolutionary process and progress toward Pure Consciousness.
So again you have to recognize and realize the different levels of God. One level of God is in absolute Pure Consciousness and has nothing to do with this universe and this creation. He is absolutely self-contained and self-sufficient, and He is One with Himself.
In another level, He is the witness entity of this creation and He has created the universe to help you to go back to God. He does not have to evolve. He is already in Pure Consciousness. In another level, He is the whole universe which is evolving! And the creation is the evolution.
Evolution is a part of God’s creation. God created this creation in an evolutionary process and He is evolving Itself toward perfection.
That is why we need the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth (KOHOE). We need an environment where people can meditate and awaken the spiritual forces. And if we do not create that, the progress of humanity will be slowed down and we will not progress with it.
So, in one sense you are correct, God evolves in that level. In another sense, He does not. He is absolutely beyond any evolutionary process.
Question: Does this indicate in Ezekial that there is an establishment of the of the Temple and we were told that also there will be the re-establishment of the sacrificial system?
Maitreya: Sacrifice will be individual sacrifice. The sacrifice will be the following of the Eternal Divine Path. Christ never taught Grace. Paul did. Paul was not wrong all the time. He had some truth also, and also, Christ said that you go to God only through me, and that is the Grace of God because he had the Grace.
That is why Christ is called “full of Grace and knowledge,” because God was coming through him and therefore Grace was with Him. Also, he was the Lamb of God. What was the Lamb of God? What was the unblemished Lamb of God?
Go ahead, UpToTheChallenge.
UpToTheChallenge: Thank you so much for answering so many of my questions. I want to get back to an earlier question that you read that was mine, which has to do with the Temple at the end of Ezekial, when he talks about reestablishment of sacrifice. It seems to me that God was very clear about the reestablishment animal sacrifice. Is not that what he was talking about? I am just curious as to what your understanding is, because the way you answered the question, you did not seem to indicate that there is knowledge that the Scriptures read as to the actual animal sacrifice.
Maitreya: You are correct. As we see, the end of the human sacrifice came when God stopped Abraham from sacrificing Isaac. Therefore, no human sacrifice happened after that. After that, the animal sacrifice came to the time of Christ, and then Christ came and that sacrifice stopped.
Therefore, now with the coming of the Kingdom and this Teaching, sacrifice means to give of yourself to the Communities Of Light and establishing the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth, and you are saved by Grace. And the Grace was released by Christ, therefore you do not need those sacrifices, and in those verses in Ezekiel, he was talking about sacrifice which comes in the Eternal Divine Path and the Third Seal.
Go ahead UpToTheChallenge.
UpToTheChallenge: I appreciate that. I do not mean to belabor the point but I still am just trying to understand. If the Temple being established in the end of Ezekiel has not come yet, and it is not that animal sacrifice. I am not bringing this up because I desire animal sacrifice, I am trying to understand the Scriptures and I understand that there have been a lot changed, but I am trying to understand the indications in the context of what you said.
You said that human sacrifice was ended and replaced by animal sacrifice. Why would it indicate in Ezekiel that there would once again be animal sacrifice?
Maitreya: OK, probably to solve this problem, do you have those verses that you are referring to? Do you want to read them if you have them handy?
UpToTheChallenge: Yes, give me a second here and I will look it up.
Maitreya: OK, sure. No problem, UpToTheChallenge. Actually that is why we are here, to discuss things and clarify different points in the Scriptures and hopefully eventually a lot of people are going to be very clear but if it matters, which as you know, all of us have come from different backgrounds so to come to Oneness is to know one another and know God’s Will and eventually become One. That is exactly what the Samgacchadvam says, To come to know one another to become One.
Go ahead, UpToTheChallenge.
UpToTheChallenge: OK, what I am talking about is in Ezekiel, starting in chapter 40 and it begins with a description of the future Temple and it goes to the description of other future Temples, and as you go through the description of the future Temple, there are some very specific verses of doing offerings, and then [sound breaking up], and I will read a verse or two that has that.
In Ezekial chapter 40, in verse 38 it says, [quoted here the King James Bible] [ start checking here time 01: 30]
38 And the chambers and the entries thereof were by the posts of the gates, where they washed the burnt offering.
39 And in the porch of the gate were two tables on this side, and two tables on that side, to slay thereon the burnt offering and the sin offering and the trespass offering.
UpToTheChallenge: So there is a description of offerings. Further in the chapters, chapter 43, verse 21:
21 Thou shalt take the bullock also of the sin offering, and he shall burn it in the appointed place of the house, without the sanctuary.
22 And on the second day thou shalt offer a kid of the goats without blemish for a sin offering; and they shall cleanse the altar, as they did cleanse it with the bullock.
UpToTheChallenge: Again, I could go on and on where the reference in these last 4-5 chapters in detail. It appears to me that is the Temple to come, sacrifice of animals [poor quality sound]. I have never really understood why …
Maitreya: Alright. There is a discussion here that it might be referring to the old Temple. It is something that will have to be studied and see if it is really talking about the last or the third Temple, or it was talking about the Temple that was before it.
If anybody knows exactly what they are saying there, because the way right now it is , it sounds like we have to study the chapter. If you want, you can send me your email address, send it to question@maitreya.org and I will study that a little bit and see what that chapter exactly says. I will answer you in an email.
If anybody else is also interested to know the answer, just send us an email, sent it also to question@maitreya.org and tell me that you want also to receive the question and answer that UpToTheChallenge sent us, and we will send you a copy also.
So we have to study that a little more to see exactly what it is talking about. But no matter what is in that chapter, the answer to that question is, in the third Temple, which is the Temple that the Mission has proposed to be built, there will not be any human or animal sacrifice, but the sacrifice is to seek The Grace of God and give to the Communities and create the Kingdom.
Go ahead, UpToTheChallenge.
UpToTheChallenge: OK, I appreciate that. Let me get to a second question, a question having to do with The Grace of God, as you put it. I have studied that in depth to some degree. In my study of the New Testament where “Grace” appears over 130 times, 102 of them are found in the writings of Paul, and Christ himself only used the word four times. It is in Luke chapter 8, it is very much not in the context of “Grace” as it is being taught. I tried to understand what you mean when you refer to The Grace of God, since the whole idea and context is to be totally in context, which is not something you can find in the New Testament generally. When I read it in the Kunath or the Old Testament, what I find is that “Grace” is always connected to the Israel people and following the Law, and it was by Grace that Noah and his family were on the ark because he was found to be righteous or obedient. So I am trying to understand that when you refer to “Grace,” exactly what you are talking about because my understanding is that it is pretty much only a Paul institute.
Maitreya: The Grace is when you and God are One, when God lets His Spirit flow through you. That is what The Grace is. When you have The Grace, you follow the Law. If you have to force yourself to follow the Law, then it becomes rigid and you are going to have a hard time to follow it. But when you have The Grace, you follow it.
That is why some people say, “Well, we are Christians, we have The Grace, we do not have to follow the Law.” That is absolutely incorrect, because the moment you have The Grace, you will follow the Law because the Spirit of God is in you and you know the Law very well, and you will follow it. Therefore, Grace and Law go hand-in-hand.
But The Grace was taken away from humanity at the time of the Garden of Eden, and that was when the man fell and The Grace will be taken away because that is when man says, “I want to know myself what is right and wrong. I am not going to listen to God, therefore I have my own will, and my will and God’s Will is going to separate.” That is when you fall from The Grace and you no longer are One with God, and you do not follow His Laws. It is eating of the tree of good and evil.
Man said, No, I want to eat of the tree of good and evil. So He put a Law, Do not do this, and man said, No, I am going to do it anyway because it is my will not Your Will. Therefore he fell from The Grace.
So The Grace is when your will and God’s Will are One, and therefore you will follow the Law. That is why in the Old Testament, you had to follow the Law to receive The Grace. But after Christ came, He released The Grace back to man and therefore, if you have The Grace, you will follow the Law and the Ten Commandments and His Word, and therefore you have both, The Grace and follow the Law.
That is why in the Old Testament you can see that suddenly mad had to go through those elaborate rituals to appease God to release The Grace, and after Christ you do not have to do them anymore. So that is what Grace is and probably Christ chose another word to say it and Paul used “The Grace” but the explanation is that The Grace was finished by God.
Go ahead, UpToTheChallenge.
UpToTheChallenge: OK, that was very interesting what you said at the very end and I am not exactly sure where that is indicated [again poor sound] because what I really want is the truth, and I am really trying to deeply understand what you have to offer here. I deal with a lot of things having come out through Christianity and Judaism, and I am trying to understand “Grace.” And to understand and look at the words “Grace,” when you describe it’s meaning, where does it say that being taught by a Prophet or Messiah, so we have that instruction coming from One inspired of God? You said that Grace was taken from them and then regiven by Christ, is that to say then that nobody between Adam and Christ had Grace?
Maitreya: What “authority or Prophet, brought…?” What I am talking about, this is It! This Authority is telling you that is what it is.
Did anybody have Grace between Adam and Christ? There were some. There were some people who received, whenever it was God’s Will, to give them The Grace. That was why they had to appease Him, that is why they had to sacrifice and prove themselves to be worthy and that they really are willing to follow God’ Will and His Commandments. Therefore God released The Grace through them.
The Prophets of The Old Testament had The Grace, Elijah and Ezekiel and all those Prophets of The Old Testament, because without The Grace you cannot receive Revelation. Revelation comes with the Spirit of God, and the Spirit of God is The Grace that comes to man. Therefore they did have some people who received The Grace but after Christ came, you do not have to appease God to receive The Grace but by following His Will and realizing and understanding how God works, from the Garden of Eden to Christ and Prophet Muhammed and Bab and all other Prophets to this point.
The only way you can receive The Grace of God is by understanding the Will of God and following the Will of God. Then you will appease God, and you will have The Grace and you will follow the Law.
Go ahead.
UpToTheChallenge: I just wanted to thank you so much for your patience and answering my questions. I am going to get back and listen some more, and I am going to go to your website and read your writings. My only last question is, when is the next time that you are going to be here in the room so that I can plan to be here to ask more questions.
Maitreya: I will be here next week. As long as there are questions and we have discussions to have with each other, and we are willing to be open and nice to each other, and really are searching and we want to know God together, I will be here every week on Saturday at 10:00 AM. So you can catch me next week at 10:00 AM MST.
I guess that should do it for today, and it is a couple of minutes after 12:00. If there are no more questions or discussion, great.
God be with all of you. These are the answers and realizations that humanity has been longing to know for the last 12,000 years. They are given here to you freely, and meditate on these words.
Sal-Om everybody. Have a good God week, see you all next week. Sal-Om.