Conversations with Maitreya
09/06/2003
Maitreya: Good morning everybody. Sal-Om and welcome to the Mission of Maitreya’s conversation room. We will be having a Conversation for the next hour and a half. This is the Conversation Room of the Mission of Maitreya.
The Mission of Maitreya is the revealer of the Seven Seals and Opener of the Book Sealed With the Seven Seals. This is the last Revelation from God to humanity, and it explains how about all the religions of the world to unify them and reveals to humanity how God has been sending the revelations of other religions to this point. Now all of them are revealed together and shows that there is a unification between all religions.
It explains why each religion has been sent, how God prophesied and foretold how each revelation came for a specific people on earth, and now those seven revelations are revealed. Each revelation has been revealed for the whole humanity. This Mission has started in 1977, and eventually it reached to humanity in 1982.
Since 1982 we have been disseminating and spreading the Word that humanity is One, God is One, all revelations have come from the same Source, and how He has prophesied that all these revelations will come and therefore, God truly exists.
Now the Revelation has come to humanity that explains each religion, where they fall in God’s Plan, and when you put all of them together and understand this Revelation, you understand God and how, to this point, humanity has been separated but truly they are not. Therefore, you have come to the room where you can understand the last Revelation and realize how God has been working through history the last 12,000 years, and why we are at this point and now how we can continue to understand God for the next 1,000 years and how, at the end of 1,000 years, many will reach the Goal, Pure Consciousness or God.
We will answer your questions in this room. That is what this room is all about. This room is for all of you to go to our website, study our teaching, and if you have any questions, come back and I will be here every week, Saturday at 10:00 AM MDT. If you find something in our website and you would like to discuss it, if you want to join us in any way, you want or can, we will come here to do that. We are looking for the Elects who are looking for this Revelation, and they are here to serve God and His last Revelation.
Therefore, it is good for all of you to become familiar with this Revelation. Actually it is your obligation and responsibility of everyone to do that. So if you have a question, go ahead and ask here from me. I can see there are some words in the text.
Question [text]: Do you have disciple succession?
Maitreya: We have succession by reincarnation. Yes, the way succession will be carried out will be very similar to the succession in the Buddhists and Lamas in Tibet. Maitreya will be reincarnated and found, and he will continue the organization for 1,000 years or even more if the earth is still here.
Comment [text]: The question is obvious.
Maitreya: Well, if you want to come up and make it more obvious than what I just explained, go ahead and come up to the mic. The question is about the succession in the Mission. We do not need the succession by the disciples, because the disciples are not the Mouthpiece of God. They are the second level in the Revelation and anything but the first connection to God will be filtered through ego and therefore it would not be the purest.
Therefore, the only source for this Revelation is the first Revealer.
GovindaRam: Is there a list I can get a hold of?
Maitreya: A list of what? The disciples, you mean? [reading text] “of the disciple succession.” What do you mean by “disciple succession?” I just explained to you that there is no “disciple succession.” If anyone wants to explain his question a little further, or if you want to explain what he means by “disciple succession, ” if you want to elaborate on that, then we will go from there. But this Revelation is the Revelation of the Seventh Angel or Seventh Revelation.
Many truths have been revealed to humanity and it is amazing that humanity is still following their own wills and they are not humble to understand these teachings. Even those who understand these teachings are still holding back and are not absolutely dedicated to it.
That is really amazing to us as to why this Mission is not spreading as fast as possible.
GovindaRam [text]: It does not matter. You should know already what I am saying.
Maitreya: No, it is not correct, what you are saying GovindaRam. I am just a human, and I reveal to you whatever God reveals to me. Therefore, you have to explain your question and if you cannot explain… [reading text].
OK, if you do not want to elaborate your question, then it will not be answered correctly. You can come here, use big words, and expect that I know all the English words. Therefore, it is not the correct way, it is not the Way of God. That is a person’s understanding and dogmas again. It is not God’s Way.
Therefore, if you have a question, you have to clarify what you mean by your question.
In any event, welcome to the Mission of Maitreya’s Conversation Room. Again, we encourage everybody to go to our website and study our teaching in a deeper level. Reach out during the week to everyone and bring up the teaching to them. Let them come and understand the depths of the Revelation of God.
Go ahead, Shirin.
Shirin: Sal-Om Maitreya. This is in reference to something you just said, how it is amazing how people are not seeing this Revelation and something that I have been looking at for the last couple of weeks as I find it amazing and confusing and confounding that people just are not flocking to the website and hungry to understand about all of this.
My question stems from The Essence, tablet 18, where it talks about the Seventh Seal. And in the very last verse it says, “This is the Eternal Divine Path, which the sons of God knowingly or unknowingly have realized and gone through. And it is the path which should be followed by all.” My confusion comes from that word “unknowingly.” I know in history, if we read in THOTH, that the Jews were used by God to set an example.
But even in this day and time, I can see, especially TV in the West, that there are people out there who are doing good things. The leader of Habitat for Humanity says some things that could be coming directly out of the Second Seal. So I wanted to understand that “unknowingly” part of that verse better, especially in today’s times when it seems like no one seems to know. And, I hope there is a question in there.
Maitreya: OK, well, probably a loud example for “unknowingly” is that we can probably look at the Mission and life of Jonah. Jonah was a Prophet, probably he was a very high person, close to God, but God chose him and told him to go to that city and tell the people in that city they should return to God and stop doing ungodly acts.
But Jonah said, No, you got the wrong person. I am not going to do it. He started going in a direction opposite of the city. He was a high soul, so his spirit was awakened. But still he didn’t listen to God. Then he had to leave his home and everything and go to that city, that was a sacrifice, and tell the people to become Godly, and therefore help them to create the Communities of Light in that city and become surrendered and submissive to God, which he was not.
He went to a city which probably was not a part of his country or tribe to become a Universalist. But he resisted it, and at the end he had no choice and also he did not know about the Eternal Divine Path.
He “unknowingly” had to follow it in order to accomplish his mission. Even a Prophet in the past, although they follow the Eternal Divine Path, they really did not know the Eternal Divine Path, as we explained it so clearly for humanity now that this is the way of salvation. You have to know thyself, you have to awaken your spiritual forces, you have to meditate, you have to experience God. Otherwise you will have religion and that is the problem.
The people who know God and have experienced God, they do not separate man from man, you know, Ghandi, the great teachers in the past, the Saints, Sufis, and all those people who have experienced God, they do not say, “Well, I am Moslem, you are Hindu, you are Buddhist, you are Christian, let’s kill each other and destroy each other.” But because they have seen the essence of God in themselves, they see the essence of God in every man and woman, therefore they cannot separate them from themselves the way the religious people with the dogmas do.
Therefore, although all the saints have realized that, they do not say, “OK, I am following the Eternal Divine Path and the next step is to create the Communities of Light.” But naturally it comes to them that when they awaken their spiritual forces, they see they want to also help other people to come and join them, and create the Communities of Light. Therefore they help their community even without knowing that they are following the Eternal Divine Path.
They usually sacrifice themselves for the community and help them to grow toward God. They eventually become surrendered and submitted to God, and as we said, they do not separate themselves from anybody or anybody from anybody else. Therefore they become Universalists.
So you see, they have to go through the Eternal Divine Path. The moment you experience God, the moment you expand your consciousness, the moment you realize God within yourself and in everybody else, you start following the Eternal Divine Path.
But they did not know they are following the Eternal Divine Path. That is when “unknowingly” comes in. Also they follow the Eternal Divine Path, but they did not call it the Eternal Divine Path.
If you would have asked them, “OK, what path are you following?” they would have said they are following the path of God. But they would not tell you it is the Eternal Divine Path that Maitreya will bring to humanity later, but we are not going to tell you now because we do not want to go ahead of ourselves and what Maitreya is going to bring or will bring even now.
So we can see that they would not have been able to tell you exactly what they were following, but of course, that was the Path of God. Now the Path of God has been revealed to humanity so clearly, and now all of us can meditate, awaken our spiritual forces, eventually have a direct experience with God, and realize that, “Yes, God is within me and actually God is more within me than I am. I am not separated from Him, and not only is He within me, but also He is in everyone. There is no one who does not have God within them.”
Therefore, how can I say that “I am better than everybody because I am following this religion, I am the chosen person, and nobody else is chosen,” or, “We only go to God and Moslems, Hindus, and Buddhists are all not the children of God. They are going to go to hell because they do not believe in our dogma,” or, “I have the last word and my Prophet says I did not reveal everything to everybody, and He said there were going to be Seven Seals there, and no other Prophet opened the Seven Seals ….”
So you become open to God’s Revelation, to God’s Will, to God’s Plan and therefore you do not stay religious, you stay the seeker of the truth.
When you see this Revelation, which explains everything to you, to humanity, you say, “Well, this is the last one. This is the universal one, this is the one that reveals to me the Eternal Divine Path, this is the way that all the Sons of God and Prophets follow. Therefore, if I want to become a Son of God, if I want to overcome, if I want to become a part of God’s Plan, this is the way to go.”
Therefore, you drop everything and go for it, because that is the only way to salvation. That is the Eternal Divine Path. Then the understanding is, all the other Prophets did not know, they could not explain to you, even if you asked them, “What is the Eternal Divine Path?” they would just say, “What do you mean?” Of course, if you say, “Awakening of your spiritual forces, helping the community, sacrificing, surrendering and submitting to God, and becoming a Universalist,” he would say, “Oh yes, sure, that is what I follow. That is exactly how I shattered all narrowness of the mind and eventually realized that God is everything.”
But they would not know the exact sequence of the Eternal Divine Path. So that is why they “unknowingly” were following the Eternal Divine Path or those, of course, who knew the Eternal Divine Path and could understand the sequences, did it knowingly. But I do not think even they called it the Eternal Divine Path. They probably called it the Way of God.
That is the Way of God. Any other way is not the Way of God, it is the way of ego, it is the way of religions, it is the way of dogmas.
We can see that we clearly have explained the reincarnation. It is right in their Bible, and this gentleman comes and just asked me … no, he just does not want to learn or he is not really a seeker of the truth. He wants to be right. He wants to believe in his own dogma and believe that he is right.
Even if you put the truth right in front of their eyes, still they resist it and will not look at the truth that has been revealed to them because they want, ego wants to feel better about themselves. “If I am the chosen one, I am better than everybody else.” That is an ego trip. “If I am the only Way, my Revealer or my Prophet revealed the only way, therefore I am better than everybody else.” “If I have the last revelation, therefore I am correct and everybody else is incorrect.”
Of course, if you have the last Revelation and you follow the Eternal Divine Path, then you do not have any ego. You will try to help everybody to realize this Path and they will start following it themselves.
Therefore we can see that this Path is the Way of God. This Path is the Path of God. This Path is the Path that all the Saints and Sons have followed, but most probably they did not call it the Eternal Divine Path. They called it the Path of God. They probably did not put any name on it. They just followed because that is what Spirit is.
When Spirit is realized, you will follow the Eternal Divine Path. And of course, the Eternal Divine Path is, the first thing is to Know Thyself. If you do not know yourself, if you do not realize that you and God are One, if you do not realize the Essence within you and the Essence all in the universe and in everybody else, then you have not known yourself. You still separate man from man. That is not the Way of God. That is the way of religion.
If you have not sacrificed or tried to create the Communities of Light, you are not on the Path of God. You still have your own little ego, and you are not following the Eternal Divine Path. If you are not willing to sacrifice and give of yourself for the Word of God or the Communities of Light, or creation of the Communities of Light and the Kingdom on Earth, you are still holding back.
If you are not completely surrendered and submissive to God, if you do not want the Will of God for you, but you have your own will and you have a calculative mind and you are always thinking about how you can do the minimum for God and you are really not absolutely following God … what did God say to Jonah? Leave everything and go to that city, and he did not want to do it. Therefore he was not following God’s Will.
But He told the same thing to Abraham, and Abraham said, Yes, I will do it, and he dropped everything and went to do what God told him to do. So, if you are not following God’s Will absolutely, completely, 100%, you are not following the Eternal Divine Path.
If you are not a Universalist, if you cannot see that all are your brothers and sisters and have the Essence of God. If you do not try to help them and guide them and make them to understand that God is Everything and they are all brothers and sisters….
Why do we have these wars? Why do we have this destruction? Why do we have all these things happening on earth? It is because we do not look at each other or other people as our equals, as the Essence of God. We look at them as, “They are Moslems. They are Hindus. They are Buddhists.” You see?
The human loves to categorize others. If we categorize them, we can put them in their place in our brain that we have grown it and we say, “Well, they are not us. We are different than them. Therefore, we can go and kill them, or destroy them, or steal from them, or do whatever we can for ourselves.” That is not the Way of God.
Therefore we can see that this is the Way of God, and that is the only way that you can become the Son of God. That is the only way that you can bring the Kingdom of Heaven On Earth. That is the only way we can bring peace to humanity. That is the only way if you realize that God is Everything and His Essence is in everyone, and we are all here in this planet together. So we have to come together to create the Communities of Light. We have to come together to create the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth, to share and reach to space in a greater degree for a greater standard of living for everyone.
Question [text]: What kind of religion is this?
Maitreya: This is the last Revelation from God, where the Seven Seals have been opened and the Book Sealed With the Seven Seals has been revealed to humanity. Now is the time for humanity to realize and recognize that their religions each are a part of a greater Revelation, that each man, woman, and child is a part of God, that we are all His children, that the way out to salvation are the Seven Steps in the Eternal Divine Path, or five steps and two results, and this is the Revelation that humanity has been waiting for.
Question [text]: What is the name of the One God?
Maitreya: He is Formless, Invisible, Nameless, and Eternal (FINE). His exact name cannot be pronounced and uttered. He has a Name, but that is a vibration within every man, woman, and child. Any name you can utter or give to Him will be a corrupt pronunciation of the Name of God, and His Name is only recognized and realized when it is revealed to you in four initiations in this Mission, in this organization or whatever you want to call it or this Revelation.
Therefore, God is Formless, Invisible, Nameless and Eternal (FiNE). They asked Prophet Muhammad how many Names God has, and He said, God has 3,000 Names and one of them cannot be revealed to humanity. That is the one we are talking about, that one that cannot be pronounced or uttered in this universe.
Question [text]: Is it similar to Islam, what you are talking about?
Maitreya: Islam also is a part of our teaching. Islam is the Fourth Seal. The highest spiritual revelation to man is to be surrendered and submitted to God completely. But Islam did not reveal the Seven Seals.
The Seven Seals would be revealed at the end time. We are at the end time. This is the beginning of the great tribulation for humanity, and now we are at that point that humans will go through a great struggle before they realize these teachings and words as the last Revelation from God, for the last part of God’s Plan.
Therefore Islam is a part of God’s Plan, and it is the Fourth Seal. There are Seven Seals that have been sent by God, and there were three more Seals which opened after Islam, which were the Baha’i teaching, and then Ananda Marga teaching, and now this one. And this makes the whole Seven Seals revealed to humanity.
Islam is a great religion. Just like all major religions on earth have been misunderstood, has been separated, and the people who are following it are staying in the Fourth Seal instead of realizing another three that came after Prophet Muhammad. As they realize this more and more, they understand that their Prophet was a great Prophet and he brought a great revelation but there were more to come, and they have come to this point.
Therefore all religions have to recognize and realize that they have to get away from being “religious,” “religiosity,” because religions separate men. They do not bring you to understanding, and those who have been called for a greater Plan of God are those that they understand this teaching and they really go and study it in depth and see how wonderful God is and how we are now at this point.
We have a great Mission to accomplish together and therefore absolutely we are ready to get on with it and also find other Elects all over the world. Let us bring the 144,000 Elects together and therefore we can create an environment where more and more people understand that they should get away from religions and dogmas, but they have to seek the truth.
And the truth, of course, is different completely from religions and dogmas. They have to open up themselves to the truth. The truth is in the Scriptures that God already sent to them.
It is amazing, they tried to take the reincarnation out of the Bible. But they did not succeed. It is right there. That person was completely yelling, No, it is not. Now explain to me how John the Baptist was Elijah? He was born from the womb of a woman, how else can it be explained except that he was the reincarnation of Elijah?
But that person does not want to know the truth. He wants to hang onto his own dogma when his own Scripture is telling him there is reincarnation. God does reincarnate. God does send man over and over to humanity, and that is how God sends His Prophets. That is how God sends the Messiah.
He revealed and prophesied for a long time before he sent this incarnated personality to man, and many come and claim they are the one. But the only one that fulfills this prophecy is the correct One and will open the Seven Seals and reveal the meaning of the Scriptures to man.
Therefore, now you have heard it. You are the second level of the Messenger. You are the people who have received the Message. Now you are responsible to carry this Message to other people who will listen.
If they do not listen, that is OK. Do not waste too much time on those who are not interested in this Revelation or they do not want to listen. Reach out to other people who might listen. Reach out, even out of your own family or community or city or nation. Reach to everywhere and to every corner on earth, and put an effort to reach to them and do not get discouraged.
Remember, surrender the result to God. He already has given you the path that absolutely frees you from being attached to the result of your actions or becoming discouraged because you are not attached to the result.
You give the Message, and if they saw the Vision, then it is their Message. You are done with them. It is that now they are another level of Prophethood, they are the Messenger of God, and they are the people who should be on fire to give this to other people.
If they are not doing it, it is not your responsibility. Leave them to God, and go to other people, reach to other people, and all that. It is really a pathless Path, it is so freeing without anything on earth, God’s Work.
Of course, He has come to be working for humanity. It is the Way of God. But according to the Word of God, I am… [reading from text]
So, they have to understand that their way is the human way. Our way and teaching will not completely uphold the human consciousness until the Babylon the Great falls, and of course, Babylon the Great right now is in pretty good shape and powerful, but it is weakening every day as we see.
You are all welcome to the Mission of Maitreya again. This Revelation is the last Revelation of God. It unifies all humanity. It brings the truth to man and frees him from ego, and makes them unified by God but the contract or the way is the Eternal Divine Path.
It awakens your spiritual forces, meditate, know thyself, that you know your Essence and God are the same, atman and Atman is the same, self and the Self is the same, Hod and Hoda is the same. If you realize that and truly recognize that God is within you, you will not have an ego. If you think you are god, …
Question [text]: Where did this Revelation start and when?
Maitreya: It started in the United States in 1977, in Mississippi. When I was at Mississippi State University, I started receiving this Revelation. When I was visiting Chicago and I went to visit the Baha’i Temple, the relationships between the Seven Seals and the Seven Revelations started to be revealed to me. In 1982 we had our Scripture, the book The Holiest Of The Holies (THOTH), The Last Testament written down completely. We reached out to humanity in 1982.
That was exactly when a gentleman by the name of Benjamin Crème was going around in the world and proclaiming that Maitreya will reveal Himself to humanity in 1982. And that is exactly when this Revelation was released to humanity and he announced the presence of the last Revelation of God.
Where did it start? You can say it started in the United States, it started in Chicago, it started in Mississippi, and eventually it was revealed to humanity in Denver, in Colorado. We have been in Albuquerque, New Mexico since 1981. So it was announced from Albuquerque, New Mexico.
Now we are in a city called Rio Rancho, which is on a plateau, and the river goes on the east side of where we are and there is a mountain on the east side of the river. That was also prophesied by Mormons that the Christ will appear in the United States.
So everything that God says here is God’s Doing for humanity. It is not an “ego trip” by a person who sat there and said, “Yes, I am a Prophet,” or something like that. It is something that it absolutely makes it clear that it is from God and has been sent to humanity to awaken their spiritual forces, to create the Communities of Light, to sacrifice for it, to surrender and submit to the Will of God for each individual, and become a Universalist, shatter all narrowness of the mind.
These are the people that all the Scriptures have been talking about, “My Elects.” My Elects follow the Eternal Divine Path, and they, of course, will come together and create the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth [reading text].
Sunny [text]: Thank you. This seems logical. I like your talk. Thank you for your kind spirit.
Maitreya: You are welcome Sunny. This is the Word of God. This is the Spirit of God coming through. God is kind, God is the most fantastic Spirit in the universe, and my work and job is that all of you to experience the Spirit, for all of you to see the beauty and gentleness and kindness of the Spirit of God, and how He has been working for all of us to recognize and realize this Eternal Divine Path, come together and help to create the Communities Of Light and bring God’s Kingdom on earth and recognize this Spirit in every man, women, and child, and bring the peace, tranquility, and unity that humanity has been longing for at least the last 12,000 years.
If we do not, of course, the war, destruction, and disunity will continue the way it is, because that is not the Spirit of God.
The Spirit of God does not bring disunity. The Spirit of God does not bring destruction. It is the human ego at work. We will see, from now on, that ego is going downhill. They will be destroying themselves more and more by insisting in separation, religiosity, and following their religion.
Therefore, we invite you and everybody else out there to go to investigate these teachings and revelations, and the fulfillment of the prophecies and eventually recognize and realize that the only way back home is this way, and the way has been revealed to humanity.
Alright. This is the Conversation Room of the Mission of Maitreya. Again everyone is encouraged to go to the website and study our teaching, and come here and have a conversation with me. Of course, we have not had any conversation for some time here, it is becoming more like a Satsang, which is OK.
But I would really like to see that people understand this teaching in every level, and come here and we can discuss. That is because the teaching is so much more than just the Eternal Divine Path. I also talk about the different humans, how the history of man has been guided by different kinds of humans, how we have to create the Paravipras who will bring the cyclical movements to human society, how we can make the Communities Of Light and eventually the hierarchy will emerge from the Communities Of Light.
We will have a system, from the people, by the people, and for the people for the first time, because really that has not happened yet, that this truth to be manifested in its fullness. Although the words have been given to humanity around 200 years ago, its true manifestation has not completely come to man. That is where this will come.
There is much more in the Mission that each of you can go and study and become familiar with. Therefore, you are invited and also encouraged to understand this Revelation in the deepest level and then, of course, come and let us come together and create the facilitating body so we can bring the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth.
God has said many things in the last 12,00 years that He will do, and He has done them. Therefore, God exists and God is “the man of His Word,” and He will manifest and will do what He said He will do. He has done it before, and He has promised to everyone that His Kingdom will come.
Now we know how His Kingdom will come, but, of course, we need the people who have been called for this Revelation and the teaching, the workers who have been prepared for the last 12,000 years, those who have truly come to understand God and His Revelation and are willing to do anything that they can to bring His Kingdom to earth.
Those are the people we are looking for, and we will be waiting for them to understand these teachings in a greater degree.
Again, welcome to the Conversation Room of the Mission of Maitreya. This is the last Revelation of God [reading text].
Sunny [text]: I am Moslem and I am not practicing Islam. It is not because I don’t want to, it is so hard to carry on all these teachings. I am looking for truth always, reality, something I can live with, be safe, and practice.
Maitreya: Well, I was also born in a Moslem culture, in Tehran, Iran. But this Revelation is even beyond Islam. If you want to know the truth, this is the truth, and you can go to our website or come to our room. Every day it is open here that you can come and ask questions about our teaching. Or, go to our website and study it in a greater degree, and you will see that this is a Revelation that even Prophet Muhammad had prophesied it would come at the end time.
Therefore, you are not really leaving your religion but you are enhancing it and you bring a greater degree of truth to yourself. It is not that hard to practice this teaching. The first step is to experience God and to know thyself, and that is very much related to any scientific explanation or mystical explanation. That is the first step, to know thyself. If you do not know thyself, then you really do not know why you are here, why you have been created, and all that.
After you know yourself, following God and His practices is very easy. It becomes second nature to you, it is not really a burden anymore but it is a joy because anytime you do the Reminder, you remind yourself that, that is what God wants you to do and it strengthens your belief. Anytime you do any practices that God has given you, that is a strengthening of what you already know.
Therefore, we encourage you to look into our teaching and realize that a greater truth has come to humanity. This truth has never been on earth for the last 12,000 years.
Now it has been revealed to man, and all religions should realize that they are a part of a greater truth. This is the end time that has been prophesied in all religions that will come, and when the end time comes, of course, a Revealer will come who will reveal greater truth to this point and will guide humanity to go in a greater degree toward God.
That is exactly what is happening here. We have revealed a greater truth than any other before it. No other truth has so much reality and the Word of God that has come directly to explain every aspect of human life. Now we invite all the people in all religions to come and see. Come and see how God revealed that all those revelations will come, and now they have come.
Now they have been unified together as One religion. Therefore, it is your duty and obligation to go and find out about this teaching in a greater degree and of course, you can see the website there (www.maitreya.org). Go there, it is a huge website. Everything that has been given to humanity is in that website. We have not held anything back. It is free of charge, and you can go there and download them.
If you want to get them in a book form, also there is a way to do it there. You can do it through that website.
Therefore, everything has been revealed to humanity now. There is nothing that has been held back. There is no revelation on earth before this that reveals the whole truth and explains every aspect of human life. We have been explaining this for the last 22 or more years, and now, of course, we are explaining here in a greater degree.
All explanation is almost finished. There is nothing that has not been explained. Now is the time really for all of you to go and study this Revelation in a much deeper level. If you still have questions, come here and ask me, like, “What do you mean in this part of the Revelation, or this teaching, or this part of the system? How is this going to work? How is that part going to work? Why did you say this part and explain it this way?”
For the last 22-years, any time the explanation came, the person who asked the question was satisfied with the answer. Therefore, there are tons of revelations and explanations in the website which you can actually search for them. If you go to the website, there are three search engines there, two in the main website and one in the E-commerce section, which if you search for the words you are interested in, you can find answers there. That is why maybe nobody is around or asks questions from me because they have already found their answer in the website.
So you can go and find all these things over there, in our website, Sunny, and other people here in the room, and hopefully you will see the truth in it and start practicing it. Come and join us, and we will become in a greater number. Of course, this religion is the only religion that is for every man and woman on earth. Any religion before it came for a specific people.
About the question how we practice our religion, yes, we do something very similar to the Namaz in Islam. It is called the Reminder. We do it at least twice a day regularly but it is recommended that the people can do it as many times as they want to. There are a slew of practices that we have in this teaching. There is chanting and dancing like Hindus and Buddhists. There is chanting like Buddhists. There are practices like Namaz, it is our Reminder. We do keep the Sabbath or Saturdays as a day of fasting, meditation, prayer, and rest [reading text].
Sunny [text]: That is good.
Maitreya: [laughs] I am glad you like that, you say, OK, “That is good.” So there are a lot of practices, but it has to come from your heart. It is nothing that we are going to put a sword on your neck and tell you, “You have to do it!” But you have to meditate and realize that anything that has been given for you is good for you. As Christ said, the Sabbath or the day of rest is for man. It is not for God. If you do not recognize and realize the beauty of it for you, then it is no good to do it automatically without having the deep relationship with God when you do it.
When you do the Namaz and you are absolutely One with God, when you do the Reminder and you feel the Spirit of God coming through, and you say it and understand the Words, then that is a good practice. But if you do it because everyone else is doing it as an expectation for you to also do it, which has some benefit but it is not as beneficial as if you do it yourself.
So we have practices in this religion, in this Revelation. They are all to help a person to go deeper inside and recognize God. Good, I am glad that you like that. Therefore, it is a complete package.
It not only has the Namaz, but it also has the dancing like the Sufis in Islam. For orthodox Moslems, they do not like chanting and dancing. They feel a little awkward. But Hindus and Buddhists do. The Hindus and Haree Krishna people all over the world have danced for years, and everybody was amazed how fast they spread all over the world. Therefore, like Sufis do, chant and dance, even in the Old Testament there have been Prophets that they hopped and danced and chanted and they had the same gain.
So, we have a lot of things here for every human to practice and progress on the Path.
Go ahead, Shirin.
Shirin: In the Reminder, we pray to overcome the power of the Tama Guna over our Souls. My question is about prayer, to understand prayer more deeply. In THOTH, I believe, or in a Satsang, it talks about that the only thing we really need to pray for is for that guidance. How then do we pray for someone else? That is my question.
Maitreya: Really we should not pray for someone else. We should teach them to pray themselves. That is better than to pray for them. But of course, if they do not do it or they cannot do it, they are not able to do it, we can intercept for them and pray that God’s Will be done for them as God pleases. Therefore, we do not pray for anything that is not Godly.
So, the best way is for each person to learn how to pray, and how to pray is when you are in a deep spiritual calling or something that you really want to talk to God, is to go to the position of prayer, which is putting your hands on your head, kneel down, and that is the best way to do it, and deeply connect to God and talk to Him about whatever you want to talk to Him about.
But if you go to prayer and ask Him all the time, “Give me this, give me that” for material things, you might not even hear Him anymore because He gets annoyed with your ego and material longing instead of knowing God and knowing His Will for you.
So the best prayer really is, “Your Will be done,” and, “I am a pure instrument for you to do your Will.” If you have a lot of desires and wants and material things or pray for the things that we want Him to do for us, of course, then it is not a very high level of prayer.
If you are praying for His Will to be done, that is the prayer for guidance, for what is His Will in our lives? What is the next step? Why have I come to this world? Why am I not a part of this world? Why don’t I belong here, and is it really this world is the reality or there are greater realities than this illusion or relative truth that I am in?
As you meditate and pray more, you realize that this world is not really the truth. The truth is the Essence of the universe which most people are not connected to, and therefore you pray to go to the Essence instead of becoming attached to the external world and not go to the goal.
So the prayer is to help you to become a better instrument or a better Elect. Pray to follow the Eternal Divine Path better. Instead of asking God, “Give me that, give me this, I want that, this is my will to have this one or that one, or this thing and that thing,” eventually you are never going to be satisfied because you are really longing for limitlessness and that is God.
Those who long for material things, they want to replace the limitlessness, that longing of limitlessness, with the limited material world which is never going to be satisfied. If you pray for the limited external world, your prayer is going to be continued forever also, and eventually, of course, God will say, That is not the goal of your life.
You are not here to accumulate wealth and egoistical things, because they are not going to give you satisfaction and are not going to answer your prayers, and your prayers will not be answered. And then you say, “God is not fulfilling my prayer,” so you will fall from God also.
But if you really want to know the Will of God, if you really want to pray for His guidance, if you really want to follow what is good for you and going back to the Essence and that Infinite, then pray for those things and you will be answered clearly.
Of course, the prayers of humanity have been answered already by this Revelation. This Revelation guides them to go to God and the guidance has come to them in clear words that can be understood by everyone. The English language is the universal language on earth. Everybody in each language can take THOTH and translate it to their own language, or teach other people to understand English better and read it in our Revelation.
Therefore, God has been preparing humanity to send His Guidance to them, or maybe even pray to understand THOTH in a greater degree and our teaching in a much deeper level. So we can see that Guidance has come to us, pray for His Guidance, teach people to pray, and pray for them if they cannot, but pray for them that the Will of God will be done for them and they also are guided to this wonderful Revelation.
That is really the essence of the prayer, to pray to return to the Godhead, to pray to return to the Essence, to show you the way, the way has been shown but if you pray to see your way better than before so you can follow the Eternal Divine Path in a greater degree.
Alright, there are a couple of more questions here that I am going to just read them to see if there is any question in them.
Question [text]: I do respect your thoughts. They are very positive. What should I call you to express respect, Brother, or any other word?
Maitreya: You can call me Maitreya if you would like to. Your respect comes from your heart. Of course, those who know me and want to bring that respect out, they usually say, “God is With Him,” or “GIWH.” And Maitreya, if you have seen sometimes they say, “Maitreya-Ji.” That is one way to call me to bring respect to the conversation, or you can just call me “Maitreya” or “Brother,” or whatever is fine with me.
The most important thing is that you recognize the Spirit behind me, which is God and therefore you approach that Spirit with respect, love, and devotion, and therefore it can help you to go closer to God in a faster level. And if you do that, of course, it is good for you, because God is respectful and lovable, and your devotion will get you to God in even a faster degree.
Question [text]: How do you pray for others even if they cannot pray for themselves? My spirit will do that for them, and their spirit will do the same.
Maitreya: Yes, it is alright to pray for other people, but it is even greater if you teach them how to pray themselves and learn to go to God by themselves. It is just like it is good to give a hungry man a fish, but it is better to teach them how to fish. Therefore they do not have to starve, and they do not always have to look to you to give them more food so they do not starve.
If you pray for them all the time, of course, they will not learn how to pray themselves. But if they learn how to pray, of course, they will go to God in a greater degree and the effect of their prayer will be greater for them. If you teach people how to heal themselves, it is better than to heal them because when you heal them, they still do not know how to ward off the unclean spirits. Therefore when you heal them and you leave them, the unclean spirits go and find seven more, and the state of the man will become worse than it was before, because the man has not learned how to heal himself.
And this teaching, of course, is the way for humanity individually and collectively to be healed. So we are healing the whole earth with this teaching and showing them how to bring God and His Kingdom on earth. Therefore, doing things for people is OK if they need them, but if we can teach them to do for themselves, that is much, much better.
Question [text]: How should you pray for others … that you think to go back to God?
Maitreya: Yes, that is how you pray for other people, “Your Will be done” for them, that the Will of God to be done for them, that they might recognize the Will of God for them, that they might also progress in the Path to return to God. That is what you pray for them, that is what you teach them, that is how you guide them, and if they are not guided, pray that they all be guided in this truth and they can pray themselves.
Go ahead, Lou.
Lou: Sal-Om Maitreya. My question is concerning the different sounds you have in the chart in Universe and Man in THOTH. Would you please expound on these different sounds?
Maitreya: OK Lou. Can you tell me what different sound you are referring to?
Lou: It says here, for the first chakra, it says, “Lung, Wung, Rung, Jung, Hung.” Those are the sounds that I am referring to.
Maitreya: Oh, I see. I thought you said “son” like the Son of God. You are talking about the “sounds.” I see. OK.
Yes, when you meditate, in your meditation, the only place that you can hear sounds is the manifested world. Of course, if you reach Pure Consciousness and go beyond the manifested world, there is not going to be any sound or any manifestation or touch, or anything. Therefore you cannot hear anything. But because the first five levels of chakras are in the manifested world, in the ethereal level in the aerial, luminous, liquid, and solid, there are sounds in those chakras that can be heard.
When you meditate, you will hear those sounds when you start meditating on them. Of course, there are many other sounds that can be heard, and most of the people who start meditation hear the sound of crickets or the sound of the fields if there are a lot of bugs or insects in them, they can hear someone knocking on the door, they can hear the flute of Krishna, and therefore they are hearing many different sounds.
But if you want to awaken those different chakras, that is the sound that will awaken those chakras to arise. The spiritual understanding of man is like a coiled serpent lying down in the first chakra. It is a sleeping serpent which is not awakened, and any time you start meditating with your mantra, you will hit that serpent and you will wake him up.
As you witness every sound, one day eventually, the serpent will awaken and arise to the higher chakras and as each of the chakras open, you also might hear the sound of each chakra. But that is in a very, very high level of meditation that you have to really spend many, many years of meditation and many lifetimes maybe to get there. These are the sounds that yogi, Rishis, and great masters have heard, understood, and realized.
But at this time, we really do not recommend too much on these things instead of just meditating a little bit and creating the Communities of Light, creation of the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth, then humanity will have a lot, a lot of time to meditate and again create yogis and rishis and munies and great Souls that Indian people talk about. You cannot find them anymore because the modern life is so noisy that it does not let a lot of people to go that deep in meditation, even if you wanted to.
If you cannot at this time, because you are way too busy to wake up in the morning, run to work, and just support your family and this and that. Therefore the whole lifestyle is not the life of the Communities Of Light. In the Communities of Light that will eventually come and the Kingdom will come, people will have more time to meditate in a greatest degree.
So those sounds are the sound of the first five chakras, and the reason the sound is there or color or touch or feeing that you can find in the manifested world is because the first five chakras are related to the manifested world, and therefore they have the property of the senses. That is why we taste, touch, and hear, and all that.
But when you go after the fifth chakra, it is only the three gunas left. There is no manifestation. So there is no sound, there is no touch, there is nothing that you will be able to experience those sensations. In the sixth and seventh chakra, there is nothing but absolute Bliss and unity. That is when you understand what eternity is, what infinity is.
Alot of people say, Explain to me what infinity is. You cannot explain infinity. Infinity is an experience. It is just like, “Explain God to me.” He is not an explanation. God is an experience.
That is why we have so many religions. People have not experienced God but they have explained God to one another, and the preacher explains their religion to the followers. The followers just blurt it out like a parrot without really knowing exactly what the Words of God are in the Scriptures.
That is why we encourage everybody to experience God, to awaken their spiritual forces, to go through the first chakra or the first state of meditation and knowing yourself and all that. Therefore, if you have not experienced God, if you have not experienced the Essence, then you will not be able to understand God in the deepest level.
So, we can see that this is the religion of meditation, of awakening, and all those sounds are in each chakra, in the first five chakras. And in the sixth and seventh, there is not such a thing as any sensation at all.
We can see that those parts can be recognized again by the human when we bring the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth and many people will have time to hear those sounds in their chakras and realize that, “Yes, there are those sounds.” But even those sounds still are crude, and they are not the ultimate goal for humanity. Those are the sounds that you will hear in your meditation in a higher level, in the chakras.
Welcome to the Mission of Maitreya’s Conversation Room. I hope I answered your question, Lou. If you have a follow-up, go ahead and raise your hand, and if you have something else you want to discuss with me, go ahead and let me know.
This is the Revelation that unifies all religions of the world and opens the Seven Seals. We encourage everybody to go and study them, then come here and let me know what it is that you want to discuss about this teaching, the parts you do not understand, the parts that you have questions about. Therefore we can clarify the truth that has been revealed to humanity. If you have any questions, you can raise your hand and come to the mic, and ask me that. Or, you can type it in the text.
Question [text]: I have never understood the difference between Jesus the Christ and Maitreya the Christ. Some say that Maitreya overshadowed Jesus, is that true?
Maitreya: OK, that is a good question, “What is the difference between Jesus the Christ and Maitreya the Christ?” We had a brother here who explained that as, “Jesus is Ben-David,” that he was from the lineage of King David, and Maitreya is “Ben-Adam.” In another sense, Jesus (Esa) came as the Messiah for the Jewish people, who were waiting for him to come from King David.
Maitreya is “Ben-Adam” which is for the whole humanity, because the whole humanity came from Adam and therefore the teaching of Maitreya is for the whole humanity, but the teaching of Christ was for the Jewish people, and of course, not really the Jewish people but for the lost tribes of Israel which is clearly explained in our teaching how Christ and his teaching really gathered together the lost tribes of Israel, which were the people who came from Israel to the West.
Therefore you can see that Christ came, of course, his name never was “Jesus.” We call him “Esa” which is also used in Islam and the eastern part of the earth. Esa or Jesus came to gather the lost tribes of Israel. Prophet Muhammad came for the Children of Ishmael, or Arabs, Bab came for Persians, and Baba came for Hindus. These teachings have come for all of humanity. That is the difference between them.
There was “Christ, the overshadowed by Maitreya,” that is not a correct understanding, and the Prophets and Messiahs of God are overshadowed by God Himself. Therefore there is no medium between the Prophet and God, or the Messiah and God. Those who put a medium between them, they are not understanding correctly and they are separating man from God by not teaching them to go to God directly.
They teach to go through the “hierarchy.” You do not need a hierarchy. You can go to God directly and that is the greatest understanding of how Christ and the Prophets are working to this point.
Comment [text]: You know a lot about the other religions.
Maitreya: Well, this is true because God wanted me to know about other religions and also, according to our teaching, all religions have been revealed with the same Spirit, it is the same person. It is the First Begotten Son of God. Therefore, he has given all the religions. He should know about them because he brought them to humanity and therefore it is easy for him to recognize the Essence of each religion and understand them in a deeper level. It is not something that you read and understand religion, it is something you have revealed for so many lifetimes and each lifetime you reveal them to other people and now it is so easy for me to know about religions because I knew them even before I was born.
Question [text]: Who is Baba?
Maitreya: Baba is the name of a spiritual teacher in India, but also has the name Shrii Shrii Anandamurti. He was the founder of the movement called Ananda Marga, which means “The Path of Bliss.” He revealed the concept of “Sadvipra,” and now we have expanded on that and made a greater explanation who a Sadvipra is. Sadvipras are called Paravipras in our teaching. “Para” means “beyond.” “Vipra” means “intellect.” Therefore, Paravipras are the people who go beyond intellect.
Question [text]: Are all of them Christ?
Maitreya: The Prophets, yes. Messiah, Christ, Prophets, are all the same and have the same meaning. It means that the Spirit of God comes through the Chosen person. God will prophesy for a long time that such a person will come to humanity and bring a Revelation to man. He promised both Abram and Abraham that there are two Prophets or two Messiahs who will come from them, from Abram came Prophet Muhammad and from Abraham came Christ, or Esa the Christ, Esa the Messiah.
Before such a personality comes, the prophecy will tell humanity how they will come, and when they come, of course, they can be called Prophets, they can be called Christ, they can become Messiah. No matter what name you call Him, the most important thing is that they are the Mouthpiece of God and they bring a Revelation and a message to humanity. And when they bring that message, those who have been called for and are ready for it, they recognize and see the Vision they have revealed to them and they become attracted to that vision. And of course, their number will increase and eventually become a religion.
Unfortunately later humanity changes their teachings to a set of dogmas and the spirit of the original truth no longer will be there. Hopefully it is not going to happen to us, because there has never been any revelation that came to a Prophet who has wrote them down, made them digitized, put them on the Internet, and all of humanity can access them with a small little computer everywhere in the world or also have the book all written, corrected, and improved on as the Revelation of God, and also explain so many things for them. So hopefully this will not happen to our Revelation and teaching, and people cannot change it and make it a part of dogma.
Especially our teaching is not a dogma, it is just a Path. You either follow it or you do not. If you follow it, you will benefit from it. If you do not, you will not. If many people follow it, we will bring the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth. If they do not, the Kingdom will not come. Of course, God said it will, therefore our salvation is His Words and it will.
Question [text]: Can we download in PDF format?
Maitreya: Yes, you can, if you are talking about the literature on the website. Yes, you can download them in HTML and then you can convert them to whatever you want. We have some literature that is in PDF format, but most of them are in HTML or HTM.
So, yes, you can. Go to our website [www.maitreya.org], it is free of charge, you can download them, you can read them on the screen, you can print them after you download them. Of course, probably if you download them and print them, probably it is going to be more expensive for you than to order them in a hard copy.
Question [text]: Are we also then trying to be Christ or is it only for some few chosen ones who get the honor?
Maitreya: If you go to our website, you will understand the teaching in a greater degree that there is God, there is the First Begotten Son, and there are Sons of God. The Sons of God are the same as Christ, the First Begotten Son of God was the Spirit of God that first went through the Eternal Divine Path and reached Pure Consciousness or Christhood, or the Light.
Therefore the goal of every man, woman, and child is to become that Light, to become the Son of God. And the way to become the Son of God is the Eternal Divine Path. Therefore, every person, every unit consciousness in the universe has the potential to become a Son of God or Christ and become One with the Father. But not everybody is putting the effort and they are not following the Eternal Divine Path to become One.
The door is open, again if you go and read our teaching, you will see that the door has been left open to every soul to become a Christ, to become a Son of God. But the way to become a Son of God is the Eternal Divine Path. In our teaching, again, you have to go and study that, and realize how you can become a Son of God.
Comment [text]: It is confusing, because there are many other religions out there that provide a just as effective way to reach a higher state of being.
Maitreya: None of the religions before this one, this Revelation, had or have given an effective way to reach Sonhood. Actually you cannot reach Sonhood by yourself, according to the Scriptures. You will be sent back to earth. The only way to go to the Godhead and reach a state of Oneness or Sonhood is a collective effort with all those who follow the Eternal Divine Path, create the Communities of Light, sacrifice, submit and surrender to God, and become a Universalist.
Therefore, there is no religion, there is no Path, no way before this one really will take you there. The only that really will take you there is the Eternal Divine Path. Of course, you might argue, “No, those religions say they do,” but if you read our teaching, the Scriptures clearly say that none do.
So, again you have to know our teaching in a greater degree and in order to recognize the depth of God’s Revelation.
Question [text]: Many people are experiencing that they are Jesus, the Christ. What is happening to those Souls?
Maitreya: Well, only experiencing is not enough. You have to fulfill the prophecies that God has sent for the coming of Christ. Also there are people that they might experience that they are close to God and they think that they are Christ, but they have to recognize that they might be the Elects. God might have called them to come and join this Revelation and help this to be manifested, but the are not the One because they have not fulfilled the prophecies.
If you go to our website, you will see that this Soul has fulfilled more prophecies than ever any other revealer did, because this Revelation is the greatest Revelation that has come to humanity. Therefore those people have to recognize that they might have a part in God’s Way, but they are not the Christ. But they can become a Son of God but there is only one First Begotten Son, and that is the Soul that has brought all revelations of God to humanity.
If they recognize that they have not fulfilled the prophecies, therefore they will give up that idea and come and join us.
Question [text]: What came first, the chicken or the egg?
Maitreya: [laughs] Alright. If you even understand our teaching, you even understand that question, which one came first, the chicken or the egg, if you understand how God created everything.
Question [text]: I do not see anything that would help me to believe that this is anything more truthful than what I have yet seen.
Maitreya: Well, I do not think that you understand our teaching then. You have not been in our website, you have not seen the Vision, that you say that. The very thing you are just saying there shows that you have not recognized this teaching and have not seen the Vision.
Question [text]: Isn’t that the way of meditation, to go through practice and learn … ?
Maitreya: No, there are three ways of meditation. There is Karma Yoga, Bhakti Yoga, and Jnana Yoga. Each of them only take you so far. The only way to go to the highest is the Eternal Divine Path which uses all three of them in this Path, and therefore, combine and accelerate your progress in a much greater degree than any yoga can do.
Therefore, that is not correct. Even then, God said, if you do yoga and just by meditation want to come to the Godhead, I will spue you out of my mouth. That means you will not reach Pure Consciousness. You will be sent back.
And actually that is a part of our teaching. We are not trying to go to Godhead at this time. We are trying to create the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth. Then many people will reach Godhead or the Son of God.
Question [text]: Your teaching only talks about the meditation, not anything about the history.
Maitreya: That is not true again. You have not read our teaching, actually history is explained in our teaching, why things happened the way they happened to this point. We encourage you to go and study our teaching. Again what you are saying is absolutely untrue.
Comment [text]: Well, of course, I don’t know the teaching.
Maitreya: OK, great. You just said it yourself. You have to go and read and understand, then you will see that what you are saying is not correct. Actually history has been revealed. We have a book called Creation and History. It explains how the creation has been created, and how history has been guiding humanity to this point.
Well, we are glad you are here to learn. I can go ahead and explain more, if you have a question specifically about anything, but this room was originally created for the people to first go to the website and read our teaching in a deeper level. It probably takes you around, if you are very smart and really diligent to learn the teaching, it takes you a year to get a grasp of the basics of the Vision.
It takes seven years for a person to become proficient if they are really sincere and put a lot of effort into it. So, it is not just going to the website for a couple of minutes and then coming here and saying, “No, there is nothing in it.”
OK, sure, if you say so, but it is a Revelation that is very deep. It has a lot of truth in it. You have to put a lot of effort and time to read it, to really go to the depths of it, then little by little you will see, “Wow, it really has revealed all the truth that God said He would send to humanity.”
Question [text]: Have you read the book, Conversation With God? Can you comment on that book?
Maitreya: Those are books written by the Baha’is. Is that what it is?
Comment [text]: I will listen for now. Why is it not more simple (the teachings)?
Maitreya: OK, good. If you are asking about the teaching, the teaching is very simple to understand. It is a five-step path: Awakening your spiritual forces, creation of the Communities Of Light, sacrifice, surrender and submit to God, and become a Universalist. That is it. That is the base of the teaching.
But to see it in a deeper level, and the branches that come out of this simple idea, is what is going to take you a long time to fathom. You see, God is very simple. God is everything. But to fathom it and see how that God is everything, or God is consciousness and the three gunas. And then fathom how this consciousness and three gunas evolved into this creation, and the goal of the life, and why we are here, and all that, that is something humanity has been talking about for thousands of years. They have not fathomed it yet.
So yes, it is simple, at the same time it evolved to a very complicated …
Question [text]: There are a lot of books out there, and I can ask, if the person who wrote that book [Conversations with God], is he a Prophet?
Maitreya: No, I am not familiar with that book, Conversations with God. Probably there are a lot of books out there that a lot of people read.
I can say, the person who wrote it, is he a Prophet? Does he fulfill the prophecies? Is he from God? Does he have the Spirit of God in him? If he has not, as VBreezo has written, it is just his imagination, it is a man-made writing, therefore it is not something that we have to be very much concerned about. Probably it is a very good writing, he has a good imagination, but God’s Words are in the Scriptures.
OK, my time is over, it was good to see you all here again. God is with you all, He is your Essence, recognize it, become One with it, experience Him, and teach man to do the same, that they might go away from their dogmas, misunderstandings, and taking God out of everything in their lives. Let them bring God back to everything, so we can create the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth.
Have a wonderful week, and be with God, and God be with you.
Sal-Om everybody.